[cybarmitzvah]

Hi guys, I think i should clear up my title. First off, the community of helpers and supporters here is great, and this is why I am pretty annoyed.

Ok, The BBpress.org support forums are pretty useless and let me explain why. The main problem with them, is if you are serious about setting up a forum that will become big/look professional, you would need professional help. It is nearly impossible to teach yourself/post questions here and get answers.

This is my other problem. Every day I seem to get about one problem with my site that I need being changed… I post it here, but most of the time I don’t even get an answer. I have about 6 open threads right now. Plus, if you have a big forum and need help quick, the support forums are way too slow to help you. At best, they are good for forums that are not yet live, or that are really small.

What I am trying to re-iderate is that sadly, these support forums are pretty much useless. Don’t get me wrong, starting a forum is no walk in the park, if it was, everyone would be doing it. I just really wanted to get the message out because it has been something that has been annoying me lately. It becomes pretty clear when you go back on old messages here that I would say just about every site has disappeared and the domain is for sale.

What am I suggesting as an alternative? Not sure, all I know is that I cannot do this myself and need outside help.

Ok thank you for listing,
JB

On another note, I know a lot of the supporters here do coding on a side job. I have quiet a few things I need help with on my forum and if anyone has some time, I would love the help. Potentially we could talk via google chat or something live about what I need done in my forum.

[omg123]

i asked that question because the theme i wanted to use, uses both bbpress & buddypress, and i also wanted to use both the softwares together (this is not a problem as it is done on other forum CMS’S)

wordpress is definitely compatible with the 2 softs

[omg123]

Thanks for your response,

but
“Each of those products would have to add support for bbPress though”

is this something skimlinks & viglinks would have to do ?
because i was curious as there was no mention on the net of anyone using both the CMS’S with both the software,
and yet thousands (if not more) sites use skimlinks or viglinks with wordpress.

skimlinks & viglinks were/are primarily targeted at forums – they say on there websites that the best clickthroughs + conversions are from forums
hence bbpress & buddypress is the same as the clickthough is coming from a recommendation (same as a forum) – so a high conversion rate.

the top 3 links are this thread

wordpress is definitely used and compatible with the 2 softwares

so i couldnt understand why no-one has used it with bbpress/buddpress when that is what they are intended for ?

[kurosama]

Thanks for your reply and sorry that you are “lost in translation”. Following your advice, I have; changed the theme to twenty fourteen, revised a forum page with the text and [bbb-forum-index], added this to the menu, recreated another forum and a topic as well as changing the permalink setting to “default”. What else do I need to do so that the bbpress features finally appear when clicking “forum” on the menu bar ? Thanks again.

[Fxam]

Hi Guys,

“what you want to do is as easy as making a bbpress.php template in the root of your theme. It will act as the wrapper for all bbPress content.”

Can you please help me understand exactly how to do this?

I’ve been trying to figure out how to display all my forums the same as the forum-index

Index: http://kwetufilminstitute.com/rmp/classes/
forum1: http://kwetufilminstitute.com/rmp/classes/module/design-of-video-and-audio-products/

and just cant seem to get it to work 🙁

Do I copy bbpress.php from ? to the root folder and edit it or must i creat a new bbpress.php?
What code do I need to edit?

Many Thanks in advance!

Max

[TheDarkboy]

im find this good page for try this modify!

me go to try…

[Stephen Edgar]

There are only a handful of themes that I know cause constant issues and out of thousands this is pretty good. Genesis themes are also OK as there is a custom plugin to add support for Genesis themes. I’ll go out and say that the Hybrid Core themes have full bbPress functionality built into the core framework, just some theme authors do not add this support to their theme.

Lets give it a couple more hours, at the time of writing this there ~2 hours until their support opens:

We’ve received your message!

We are outside office hours right now, but will get back to you ASAP in the morning!

Our office hours are 8am-8pm Eastern Standard Time (GMT -4).

[Stephen Edgar]

I actually took a peek at the code to see if there was an easy to do this, if we could override or add a custom function or filter to achieve this. No was the result 🙁

We have some moderation changes coming in bbPress 2.6 in that individual users can be assigned a single forum (or multiple forums) to be a moderator rather than the current behaviour where if they are a moderator they can moderate all forums.

I have note scribbled down for when I next checkout this feature to check what if how we can add/modify bbPress to allow what you have asked above 😉

[Stephen Edgar]

Try creating a new user and setting their bbPress role to “keymaster” and WordPress role to “Admin”, can this user access http://www.maldiveschina.com/wp-admin/edit.php?post_type=reply ?

[Stephen Edgar]

A couple of things to also check and try:

– Try creating a new user, assign the participant role, login as that user and post a topic or reply and try editing.
– If that didn’t work, disable all your plugins and switch to the Twenty Fourteen theme and try again.
– Ensure you are trying to edit the topic/reply before the default 5 minute allowed time setting in bbPress settings.

[Stephen Edgar]

Cool, thanks for kicking this off 🙂

Lets start with the layout structure and a “Table of Contents”, I added these recently and these are a good place to start and closely match not just the BuddyPress Codex layout guides but also much of WordPress also (Links to these below).

Getting Started, Theme Development ,Plugin Development, Participate & Contribute and Developer Resources

The Codex is now fully setup with an ‘Automated Table of Contents’ sidebar, see this section on how to acheive this, also the “breadcrumb” will also ‘sync’ up with this table of contents structure.

For now ignore the ‘related posts’, these should also update based on the table of contents plus we are going to move the functions from their current location in the codex, I’ll detail those plans later.

Links to topics on the forums for each section/page of the codex is a great idea, we can do this fairly easily. 🙂

The ‘About’ page is part of the blog, the categories are the categories of the blog posts on the site and this is an automatically generated list, same with tags. Also many of the visible (and there are many not visible) of links from the ‘About’ page is from before we had the codex setup, thus much of the content throughout those links is either duplicated or redundant. A third set of duplicated content is our Trac home page https://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org that we need to redo and sync up with the same content (or at least links) to the correct content on the bbPress codex. A fourth location will be the actual source code of bbPress which primarily is on the plugin homepage https://wordpress.org/plugins/bbpress/. The fifth source would be basically identical to the fourth though is contained in a separate file and that will be for the plugin homepage on GitHub https://github.com/bbpress/bbpress.

BuddyPress has a Google Docs “Table of Contents” here and I have just forked and edited that spreadsheet for us here on bbPress. I have set the permissions so anyone with this link can edit the spreadsheet, with some luck it won’t be vandalised, if this happens we can change this setting to “edit only” for verified editors.

Before we change any of the existing URL’s for documents in the codex (e.g. Moving the FAQ into the “Getting Started” section) we will need to make some redirects behind the scenes so existing links will be forwarded to the new links.

A good place to start would be extracting the sections from the awesome guides Robin has already contributed to build up our “Table of Contents” and once we are happy with what we have for starters in the “Table of Contents” we can then start updating the actual codex pages.

A few references where we can reuse content and build up our table of contents can be found throughout existing WordPress and BuddyPress projects:

BuddyPress Codex

https://make.wordpress.org/core/handbook/
https://make.wordpress.org/support/handbook/
https://make.wordpress.org/docs/tag/handbooks/

Project Status

[Hanlin1Q85]

guys, i met a very wired problem. Everything is ok until this morning. My english is not good. BbPress forum page and category page shows 500 internal error. But all other pages including my home page, post page, and even the topic page, users’ profile page are working.

(working)Homepage http://www.maldiveschina.com/
(working)topic page http://www.maldiveschina.com/topic/被毁的中央格兰德岛假期

(500 error)forum page http://www.maldiveschina.com/forums
(500 error)forum category page http://www.maldiveschina.com/forum/after/complain

WordPress: 3.9.2
bbPress Plugin: 2.5.4-5380
theme: SmartMag 1.5.1
Apache 2.2.25
Php 5.2.17

[Wed Aug 13 01:56:54 2014] [error] [client 91.207.4.58] Premature end of script headers: index.php, referer: http://www.maldiveschina.com/forums
[Wed Aug 13 01:56:55 2014] [error] [client 91.207.4.58] Premature end of script headers: index.php, referer: http://www.maldiveschina.com/forums
[Wed Aug 13 01:56:57 2014] [error] [client 91.207.4.58] Premature end of script headers: index.php, referer: http://www.maldiveschina.com/forums
[Wed Aug 13 01:56:58 2014] [error] [client 91.207.4.58] Premature end of script headers: index.php, referer: http://www.maldiveschina.com/forums

[Wed Aug 13 10:10:41 2014] [error] [client 202.111.50.76] Premature end of script headers: index.php, referer: http://www.maldiveschina.com/wp-admin/edit.php?post_type=forum
[Wed Aug 13 10:10:42 2014] [error] [client 202.111.50.76] Premature end of script headers: index.php, referer: http://www.maldiveschina.com/wp-admin/edit.php?post_type=forum

I have reinstalled the bbpress plugin, but the problem is still there.

pl give me some suggestion, thank you so much!

[Stephen Edgar]

Your using the same theme as trhe following topic, I have asked the theme author to come by with some tips so subscribe to this topic also if there are any updates:

Profile page doesn't show

[Stephen Edgar]

Ok, this is a “Hybrid Core” theme, I notice it is only running the 2.0 beta Hybrid Core Framework.

I can’t find an exact fix as themehybrid.com support is limited without even a publicly accessable FAQ and the themes author also does not list anything either.

I just sent the theme authors a quick email asking them if they’d swing by with some tips, so lets see what happens.

Essentially something similar to what was done in this and/or this topic needs to occur though specifi to the Tracs theme.

[Stephen Edgar]

You what want the plugin to add the button after the reply content, if you can hook it use bbp_theme_after_reply_content or you can modify loop-single-reply.php and add it after <?php do_action( 'bbp_theme_after_reply_content' ); ?>

See this to get started on modifying bbPress templates so you don’t lose your changes after bbPress updates https://codex.bbpress.org/theme-compatibility/

[Stephen Edgar]

This appears to have nothing to do with bbPress, please post on the plugins support forum you are trying to resolve an issue with or post on the general WordPress support forums.

Support Forums

[Stephen Edgar]

Theoretically I don’t see why not, bbPress (and BuddyPress) are designed to be extended and after a quick look at what those products do I don’t see why not. Each of those products would have to add support for bbPress though, this isn’t something bbPress itself would do.

[Stephen Edgar]

The first thing I’d suggest is installing bbPress if you want to continue this discussion here on bbpress.org.

[Stephen Edgar]

I’m closing this in favour of your first topic, there is no need to create a new topic just because your first has not yet received a reply.

Update my original comments page

[Jimi Wikman]

Ok, I’ll make a brief post regarding the documentation section and navigation in general so we can start discussing those areas.

The documentations section have a few issues and I think the main issue is that it does not have a uniform navigation. By that I mean that depending on where I end up in the codex, I get different sidebars with different content. This confuses the hell out of me, especially since the very anonymous breadcrumb always refer back to the codex home and do not show me where I am in the hierarchy of things.

To make this easier there should be one sidebar for all areas of the codex along with a search function.

The related links is confusing as well as they do not seem to have any connection to the topic or page I am at. Instead they seem to be a bunch of topics in the codex in general or perhaps from a specific section/category? Either way if I want to learn more about bbp_forum_post_count I don’t think it’s very likely that a topic about bbp_breadcrumb will improve my experience. These should be removed from the sidebar and added in context with the content and as part of the sidebar navigation hierarchy.

One other thing I find strange is that neither of these pages have discussions, either in the form of comments or to a dedicated thread on the forum. By not having that it’s more difficult for the users to express if the information is confusing and lacking in some way. Essentially the content becomes dead and will most likely see very little in the form of improvement.

When it comes to navigation in general I still find it strange that there are no breadcrumbs below the main navigation. A lot of people will end up on different pages when they enter the website and regardless of where you end up you should always know the context the page you are visiting in relation to the overall navigation, especially on a website with so much content that is spread out in different sections.

I also think that the main navigation look vague and while I appreciate the little bee image it does not help with the visibility of the navigation. I first thought something was wrong with my screen since I noticed the figures that looks superimposed until i realized it’s just a background image. I would say keep the bee, but remove the white traces and the background image, then make the fonts larger for the navigation.

The navigation itself seem to not be in order with what I would suspect people are looking for. I might be wrong, but I doubt people come here looking for the blog before support or that downloads are the least sought feature? It would make more sense to have support right after “about” and depending on how you want downloads to be handled it would either be the most important item so it would be added last with the CTA or as the second navigation after about.

..and i’ll just end with a question regarding the about page: do you really feel that the categories in the sidebar is a good representation on what you have written in this section? It looks a bit strange that you have items such as “i18n” in the category of the about us and then you have added an inline content box with the actual content of the about section. I would love to hear the meeting where that was decided and the discussions on how that would make it easier for the visitor to find relevant information about BBPress 😉

[David Anderson / Team Updraft]

I recently installed bbPress 2.5.4, and imported a load of data from a Mingle Forum install.

All seemed to be going well…

Unfortunately, sometimes when forum pages (pages under the /forums/ hierarchy) are loaded, there is the content; sometimes they are blank.

It’s not a PHP fatal error, or out-of-memory: no PHP errors are logged, and the HTML delivered is complete right down to the closing /html; it’s just that the section where there should be bbPress content is empty.

I’ve tried setting up pages that use shortcodes to display the forums instead – and these pages *always* work. It’s the pages that are going through the permalink structure which sometimes work, sometimes don’t.

There’s no apparent pattern I can discern in when it works and does not. I just hit “reload” lots of times – and sometimes it works, and sometimes doesn’t. The only pattern is that when it flips from not working to working, or vice-versa, then it tends to stay that way for a few reloads – across browsers too.

I’ve tried re-saving my permalink structure, several times – this makes no difference. I put an mu-plugin which always called flush_rewrite_rules() on every page load; no difference.

Example URL: http://updraftplus.com/forums/topic/updraft-migration-issue/ – try reloading a few times, and/or waiting a few minutes, and see the result change.

Example of things not working: http://snag.gy/Sr9eX.jpg … so, I hit reload a few times, and then it works: http://snag.gy/BzTAA.jpg

Also: my /forums/ page has other text at the top (i.e. text entered in the textarea when editing the page in the WP dashboard). When not working, none of that text is displayed either – i.e. not just the forum index is missing, but everything.

Currently, the HTTP server is set up to redirect requests to /forums/ and to the forum index so that they go to pages which use shortcodes. But, the topic links are always linked by the resulting output into the sometimes-works, sometimes-doesn’t permalink structure.

Anyone got any ideas? Theme: Pagelines. WP Super Cache is installed, but there is no cacheing of /forums/ or anything beneath (confirmed that this is working by searching in wp-content/cache/).

Many thanks,
David

[Venutius]

I’ve just discovered my bbpress Participants are unable to edit their own posts.

Anyone any ideas as to why?

Also, I can’t for the life of me find where I change a bbpress users role to change them to a mod etc. It’s not an option in the wordpress edit user profile section. Could someone be kind enough to point me in the right direction?

[Jimi Wikman]

@robkk no one want a bloated software.

It’s important to separate function from form in these discussions. A function like forum grouping with drag and drop has no impact on loading time in the front end yet it is a very powerful function that make it possible to expand BBP to a forum without having to sacrifice the Bulletin board feeling. If you want things just the way things are you just place all forums in one category.

Same thing with moderation or usergroups. It does not impact anything in the frontend, yet it will make a world of difference for managing the forum. If you don’t want to use it you just ignore it. No bloating, but a world of difference.

Then when we come to form we should put things like group icons and topic ratings as plugins. these are hardly used by all and as such they should be optional for those that want/need them.

I however see an issue with plugins the way both WordPress and BBPress plugins are setup a lot now and that is that each plugin have their own set of CSS and JS. If I add 20+ plugins that usually mean that I will have 20+ CSS and JS files clogging up the browser stack. the total sum of the files are usually very small, but the sheer number will slow the site down considerably.

If you have worked with WordPress installations with a lot of plugins you know that it’s a serious pain in the butt to try to get minification and combining JS/CSS to work properly. It’s either that the order of things are wrong or the minification mess something up in one or more files and you get stuck spending hours trying to find what is causing the mess. And even chained and minified the number of items in the browser stack still cause delays in the DOM rendering.

This is why I think as much as possible should be added into as few plugins as possible and that is why I think that Buddypress and BBPress should merge and some basic functionality should be included in the core. I know that this is not what the bulletin board users may want to hear, but if BBPress are to reach a wider audience and become a forum plugin that will appeal the great userbase of WordPress, then I say this is something that need to be done.

With around 70 million installations of WordPress we can assume that 1% at least have need of a good forum. Thats 700.000 BBPress installations that should be out there right now and I am not sure if that is the case or not? In my opinion BBPress should have at least 2.5 million installations by now as I know that the demand for forums are very high and people are searching high and low for any forum that will merge with WordPress.

I know that alot of people here want a watered down and minimalistic bulletin board and I would say you are in majority since that is what BBPress is today. However I have a feeling that sooner or later someone will realize that the majority of users out there don’t want that and they will fork BBPress and go towards a more forum oriented software. When that happens I fear that that fork will boom in a major way and that will eventually reduce BBPress as developers will go where the userbase is and there is just so much you can optimize (of course you can ALWAYS optimize and refactor things, but it might now be very fun or productive for the users) in a minimalistic bulletin board.

I think that BBPress is at a good place right now and before the end of the year with forum grouping in place and perhaps a little better organization of this website we should see more users starting to enjoy BBPress and not just bulletin board lovers 😉

[RChadwick]

I’ve been looking for a forum for my WordPress site, and everyone keeps pointing me back to bbPress. Problem is, I absolutely hate the way it looks. Mentally, I find it confusing to find and read messages. Is there a supported plugin that will make bbPress look like more traditional forums?

[Nelinfo]

In the picture marks the spot to insert “button.”
Tell me which file bbpress marked in the picture place?