[sumit1988]

hey guys, just another idea:

what about integrate bbpress and wordpress that far (maybe with a plugin) that if registered and logged in users post a comment at a wordpress blog-post, this comment will appear in the profile of bbPress users under “user activity”.

And related to that:

WordPress users doesnt really have a profile page, so it would be nice if a user register and post a blog-comment, his name-link would open his bbpress profile page.

Hope you understand what i mean. I think it isnt that difficult. But too much difficult for me

greetings

Sumit

[_ck_]

You keep quoting other people and their nonsense lists.

Those are commercial programmers with commercial projects.

bbPress is free and makes no money for the people who make it available.

(Joel isn’t even a programmer according to Wikipedia, but was a manager on Excel for Microsoft, so he couldn’t be more opposite in thinking to open-source web based code development – he blogs about concepts to sell his company’s commercial, closed-source software so what he says is motivated by profit)

Let’s say bbPress 1.0 final was available tomorrow.

But half the plugins won’t work with it, so are you going to fix them?

Let’s say Sam gives into your pressure and releases bbPress 1.0 beta early – but because of the rush there are bugs or security issues – are you going to fix them? Are you going to adjust the plugins for bbPress 1.1 because of rushed release on bbPress 1.0 ? I’m not.

I can give you my timeline as far as plugins – January 2010 is my estimated completion date for plugin compatibility with bbPress 1.0 – this is not an exaggeration. Hopefully this will satisfy your quest for deadlines on free, non-commercial programs and let you plan accordingly.

So if you aren’t using any plugins, I guess you’ll be all set for the next alpha and beta releases, nag away.

[frooyo]

@ _ck_

How is this a pointless question?

Simply saying that bbPress 1.0 will be finished “when it’s ready”, is an absolute lack of leadership.

And using Trac’s Roadmap functionality but not updating it to be current, since it states bbPress is 6 months behind, indicates also a lack of commitment by the development team to push this project forward.

Also, don’t you find it interesting that you have had to make the comment before numerous times and say “people, please stop asking for a release date”.

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/eta-of-bbpress-10#post-21764

I’m not even asking for a specific date, just a better understanding of the roadmap. If people are constantly asking you the same question over and over again, isn’t that a signal to you that people are: concerned with the current development state and/or unclear as to what the roadmap current entails.

Unfortunately, not everyone here is a developer. So simply stating “why don’t you help code” is not an option always. The best many of us can do is simply use the ALPHA version and report bugs if we see any … which we do.

P.S.

Also, one thing good about roadmaps is that it holds people accountable. Having a roadmap in Trac that, as you have stated before is “meaningless”

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/yet-another-10-timeline-roadmap-question#post-22122

is a complete embarrassment to this development project. I hate saying that, truly, because I greatly enjoy bbPress.

But if you cannot even update a simply Roadmap, now 6 months out dated, indicates to me that bbPress 1.0 is vaporware … regardless of how many Trac ticket check-ins you have in any given week.

I’m not alone on this, Joel Spolsky include keeping Roadmaps up-to-date on his 12 steps for better coding

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000043.html

[_ck_]

Dozens more. At least that what you should be assuming.

But more importantly, alpha 7 will break roughly one third to one half of the plugins for bbPress (seriously) so if you rely on any, you won’t be using more alphas or using the beta any time this year.

(and please stop asking questions like this, they are pointless)

[chrishajer]

Looks to me like you are not logged in as keymaster, but as administrator maybe. That means bbPress does not know you’re keymaster and the WordPress user you logged in as does not have the proper permissions.

[chrishajer]

This looks pretty similar to what you are doing:

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/latest-wordpress-stories

It’s latest stories not a page menu, but still, it’s querying WordPress from within bbPress.

[John James Jacoby]

Also don’t forget to copy over the code from the .htaccess file that bbPress semi tries to generate for you. Simply changing the setting in the drop down box isn’t enough.

[frooyo]

Curious to know how many more ALPHA builds to expect before the builds move into BETA.

We are currently on build 6, I see a soon to be released ALPHA v7 is in the pipe.

Not trying to hold the bbPress team to a specific # of releases or anything, just curious if we have just a few more ALPHA’s or like a dozen more before BETA begins

For what it’s worth, I have been using ALPHA v6 since release without any problems.

[matthijs]

I have wp and bbpress succesfully integrated. Now in my bbpress forum I’d like to display the wordpress pages. Basicly I want to replicate wp_list_pages() from wp. I know there’s a way to include wp in total inside bbpress. but that has a performance penalty and I’m also afraid it might cause bugs in the future.

So I’d prefer a simple query. What I have thus far:

global $bbdb;

$query = "SELECT wp_posts.*

FROM  wp_posts

WHERE wp_posts.post_status = 'publish'

AND wp_posts.post_type = 'page'

ORDER BY wp_posts.post_date DESC ";

$results=$bbdb->get_results($query);

foreach($results as $result) {

echo '<li><a href="' . $result->guid . '">' . $result->post_name . '</a></li>';

}

But I need a query which replicates wp_list_pages() closer. Where can I find that function in wordpress? Or how could I improve my query so that I get the subpages as well, for example?

[hpguru]

Ok, thanks for this information!

[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

You can change the post.php template page to make the avatar link to the profile.

I have it so the name links there and it works fine.

<a href="/forums/profile/<?php post_author_id(); ?>"><?php post_author(); ?></a>

As for the URL not updating, this is fixed in the Trunk build, but I don’t think it’s made it to the alpha yet. See https://trac.bbpress.org/changeset/1930

[John James Jacoby]

Yeah some of my users haven’t updated their profiles, and BuddyPress doesn’t recognize them until either they do, or I force the info (which I will probably do.)

@TeddyC, it took me installing WordPressMU 4 times before I followed the instructions correctly, and I’d recommend not doing it on Valentines weekend so your girlfriend doesn’t hate you for a few days, but otherwise I think it went as smoothly as it could considering I migrated 200 users from WordPress.org/bbPress over to MU. There’s a few places where I had to trial and error my way through the multi-blog switchover and the URL re-writing still isn’t perfect (categories and postnames are broken?) and I had to manually dump the DB and replace all the directory references for all of the uploaded media.

Otherwise the rest was just tweaking and tinkering. Lots of it.

I’ve got the forums FULLY integrated now with BuddyPress, so single account access, cookies, and users are able to post to group forums from within the group itself, and vice versa. It’s a neat little bridge and I rather like that it’s all playing nice. Hopefully upgrading to 1.0 or new alpha’s doesn’t TOTALLY break everything too badly, although I anticipate that it probably will. Yay!

I am going to be using BuddyPress to do a small social networking site for a non profit, that is going to be incorporating some school related content, so I will let you know how that goes and be sure to stay in touch as it progresses. I’ll link back to it here if we decide to incorporate bbPress.

[Alvaro Degives-Mas]

richcon: mah plezure.

chrishajer stated:

I still can’t figure out why people want integrated logins, why they have users that both post to a blog and post in a forum.

I’ll give you a real-life example. When WordPress is not used as a blog, but as a CMS, and its support for registered members serves to allow restricted reading access (so, not even posting!) to certain pages / posts (or portions thereof), those members need to log in, so as to be able to read those parts that are off-limits to guests. Now, let’s imagine such a blog-turned-CMS has a forum as well. And that said members were put through the hassle of logging in again on exactly the same site – just to be able to access a forum, where they “really” participate and exchange posts. No explanation on technicalities like “cookie synchronization” could undo their irritation, and frankly, I’ve joined their chorus. If only because the customer is king.

So, allow me to invert the perspective here: why on Earth would anyone even want to justify a klutzy non-unified login system that doesn’t recognize users who logged in on one part to access another of the same site, that is driven by software that, ordinarily, ought to be considered siblings?

Don’t get me wrong – I very well understand and accept the premise of technical difficulty. I have no problem in assessing it as merely the way it is, and patiently awaiting (and appreciating) the effort underway to address this issue. But I see no merit whatsoever in attempts to belittle the annoyance and inconvenience to users – remember: they make the site worthwhile – by way of questioning the validity of expecting a unified login. Human logic and behavior isn’t necessarily always linear in its expression, but it is what one has to deal with, in order to lead a practical and profitable (as in: rewarding) life.

And this inconvenient thing called real life is what made me, in the end, opt for a non-bbPress forum solution for a professional association: because I’m totally, utterly, radically done with dealing with complaints from non-technically oriented member users about “not being able to access” the site that they in essence (through membership of the association) paid for.

Is this a majority scenario? No, of course not. But it is very real. Hopefully now you understand why there’s interest in a unified login system, shared among WordPress and bbPress.

(Added afterwards: if you’re looking for the forum, you won’t see it until you logged in – it appears in the navigation menu only after you logged in as a member. And for the really curious: I opted for the SPF route to solve the login issue, while still remaining in the WP family.)

[chrishajer]

There is no documentation for it really, at this point. It’s easiest to just look at existing plugins, and if you’re familiar with the way WordPress plugins work , bbPress works similarly.

There have been a couple of attempts at listing bbPress functions:

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/writing-and-uploading-plugins

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/list-of-filtersactions#post-22463

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/function-list-for-v10-alpha-one

[davidjmartin]

I want to develop some plugins for bbpress, but cannot fid any documentation anywhere, is there anything that I can look at to get a list of filters/actions and what they do? bbpress looks great, but without any documentation for plugin developers its kinda hard to build for it…

Cheers.

[PJ Brunet]

@chrishajer thanks I’ll check that out.

But, I’d like to fix this problem because the URL of the “member” is very important to me. Should I start reading “https://plugins-dev.bbpress.org/” or? I’d like to help work on the code but I have no experience contributing to open source.

As it is now, the URL is not saved, it’s not even in the list on the profile page.

I’m guessing that’s the responsibility of the “bb_get_current_user_info( ‘id’ );” function?

I personally think clicking the member’s pic should take you to their profile, that would be more intuitive IMO. I wouldn’t expect to click the text “Member” to see a profile, and that makes even less sense if I give the member some custom name under his/her picture. Let’s say a member works for XYZ Inc. Now I want to show “XYZ Inc.” under his/her profile picture, a pretty typical use of the member’s custom title. To me it would make more sense to link “XYZ Inc.” to XYZ.com using the member’s URL. But the way you have it now, clicking “XYZ Inc.” takes you to his/her profile page, which doesn’t make sense to me.

[revilo78]

Thanks for the links. I was hoping there was a built-in BBpress function and it turns out there is one. I found bb_get_usermeta(), and everything worked great.

[_ck_]

Top 1000 gets updated with Top 100, sometime in April, maybe end of March if I have time, not before then. Look for the Firefox 3.1 release date as a guide since 3.1beta has a bug I need to wait for them to fix.

[whitewall]

Thanks for the very informative reply _ck_,

The reason I got interested in bbPress is not that we are trying to cut corners or find a cheap solution. It’s more like we would like to find a very simple and a lightweight bulletin board without built-in options we actually do not need. And somehow bbPress 0.9 looks much like what we are after.

Our forum has been running on phpBB since 2001 and the software has had it’s well-known problems. We have also tested the vBulletin – we have even the commercial license and have used lots of time and effort to make our other extensions work with it. But at the end vBulletin has too many options and it is too complex for our needs. We don’t need all those options it offers – we need a simple solution which would integrate nicely into our website.

We have already two dedicated servers (actual machines, not virtual ones), one handles the www-stuff (running apache…) and the other serves as the database server. Right now we have only the phpBB running with a couple of scripts of our own so I guess there’s resources more than we need.

The search issue would be solved by using Google’s search, that’s what we use right now with the phpBB but the lack of caching may be an issue.

Maybe we should keep searching the ultimate BB solution for us or try to customize the phpBB3 to fit our needs and figure out some non-WP solution for the WordPress post commenting.

[crimsonmai]

Ok well I figured out part of the problem and got the path set correctly. Now that it loads the formatting and tables are completely missing. Is this something that I change in the styles for WP or bbPress?

http://www.rivenwow.net/bbpress

[crimsonmai]

Sorry for yet another WordPress integration topic. I’m mainly interested in integrating my WordPress header with BBpress, and I’ve read just about every page on the topic. I tried the deep integration suggestions by editing my bb-config.php to include:

if ( !defined( ‘ABSPATH’ ) ) {

include_once( ‘../wordpress/wp-blog-header.php’ );

}

I’ve also tried setting the path to wp-load.php instead with no luck. I keep getting an error saying that the file or directory does not exist. My WordPress and BBpress installs are in separate directories, but on the same level. Ex:

/home/wordpress

/home/bbpress

Is the path I have correct? Also, I went through every file in the template and changed:

<?php bb_get_header(); ?>

<?php bb_get_footer(); ?>

to

<?php get_header(); ?>

<?php get_footer(); ?>

Are there any other suggestions?

Edit: Sorry I forgot to mention that I’m using WordPress 2.7.1 with bbPress Alpha 1 and my website is http://www.rivenwow.net

[hpguru]

Read this http://www.phpbb.com/community//viewtopic.php?f=65&t=673815&start=0

[hpguru]

Hi!

When the top 1000 list is updated?

[elfman2]

Ipstenu

It looks as if there is a very round-about way of implementing a crude version of this forum/blog integration in buddypress. Buddypress seems to come in modules of social networking components. One called “Activity Streams” can be configured to show activity (such as blog posts) of a member and his “friends” and display a list of it like a forum. Perhaps this could be tweaked to show only blog posts of all members, creating at least a common “read only” forum. Readers would just have to click through the list and comment directly on the blogs using another component called “The Wire” which seems to be a site wide component commenting system… kind of cool. But even if it works as suggested, all this by itself would still be very limiting.

Thinking on this further, to do this correctly, it requires database integration between the blogs and forums with no duplication of data. Here is what is needed:

– Posters to a forum should have the option to have their topics or comments viewed as an entry to at least one of the blogs that they have permission to edit.

– Bloggers should have the option to have their posts viewed as a subject in at least one of the forums that they have permission to edit.

– Comments to either should be visible in both forum and blog views.

– Edits to one should be reflected in the other views.

– Adding a blog-forum link (or perhaps even a blog-blog or forum-forum link) should be supported at any time by any person with the permission to post to a view that they are linking an existing post into (assuming the author of the original post authorizes that.)

– Deletions should be managed with an option to unlink the post from any of the views in which the author or moderator has permission to delete it from, and only delete the post entirely if it is unlinked from all forums and all blogs.

This is not rocket science, and it’s just the beginning. There is way more than just forums and blogs that this concept supports, and I think that the results would be just as explosive.

One thing promising about BuddyPress’s “Activity Stream” is documented as ”Custom components can also hook into the activity streams, meaning any sort of data can be tracked and recorded.“ Would that mean that a third party forum like bbpress, could be configured to use those streams to access blog posts and comments for exactly the kind of forum/blog integration outlined above?

[_ck_]

Let’s put it this way, if you have decent income from a forum of that size, you should not waste another minute your time (or anyone else’s) and just pay for vbulletin and the extra hardware it will need at that size (dedicated mysql and email servers). Seriously, it’s the best for a reason, but you will have to pay for everything once you go down that path, addons, etc.

If you are trying to cut corners and do it on the cheap, bbPress 0.9 is lightweight enough to handle it (wordpress.org has many times the traffic you do) though a dedicated mysql server can always help, and keep in mind bbPress has no caching plugins available yet. The money you save will be spent in hours of customization and tuning and creating your own fixes for problems.

You can always turn to lighttpd or nginx if you know your stuff and have days to fiddle with it or the almost instant installing litespeed, if you want an apache replacement that will double the capacity of your server.

The only cloud on the horizon is bbPress 1.0 as I estimate it in some cases will be roughly 30-50% slower than 0.9 (with still no caching plugins) and at this time roughly half of my plugins will not work with it (and won’t for quite some time, assume the end of 2009 at the soonest).

After 1.0 stabilizes and someone ports WP Super Cache to it, that will change the picture again but that kind of caching only helps visitors that aren’t logged in.

Oh and bbPress isn’t going to solve your search problems. It will only make it worse. bbPress’s search is completely non-indexed, and has virtual no options. My Super Search plugin might eventually cache searches but that’s not going to solve the problem of 1000 users searching for different things at once. I mentioned http://sphinxsearch.com a few months back and amazingly they are now using it on wordpress.com so there is hope that one day there will be a plugin for wordpress/bbpress to use it for searches on larger sites which will completely solve the performance problem.

Your groups of forums will require bbPress 1.0 and the downside of that again is half the plugins for bbPress 0.9 will not work with it. If you do install 1.0, don’t install anything more than 1.0 alpha 5 to use with my plugins.

ps. the top 100 list hasn’t been updated in 90 days and many of those forums are much bigger now – next update will be sometime after Firefox 3.1 is released