[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

Documentation needs:

1) Definitive integration directions.

1a) Integrate a new WP and BB install

1b) Integrate existing WP with new BB

1c) Integrate new WP with existing BB

2) Better Theme directions

Unlike WP, BB by default uses ‘child’ themes, so unless your first step in CSS is to wipe out all settings, you’re going to have weird legacy going on there, which throws people off.

3) Upgrading

The upgrade used to leave out things like ‘save your .htaccess’ but it looks like that’s finally be addressed so never mind

Everything could use some screenshots. Like the upgrade says the upgrade button is really obvious, well, show us WHAT it is. A picture speaks 100 words.

[codebuddha]

Hi,

I’ve had a search around but kind find anything relevant, bbPress looks perfect, but can it support sub-forums? Not seen any screenshots of the backend, can it be administered through the backend of WordPress?

Cheers,

[Michael]

I didn’t even know there was a download counter! This is great!

When bbPress 1.1 comes out, I’m sure it’s counter will reach 100k in no time at all.

[buddha-trance]

Second that. Standalone is much better.

That info, on what vBulletin is doing and how this can open new doors for bbPress as a standalone platform, should be weighed seriously, before rushing into the plugin idea. The timing of this happening is hardly a coincidence… and a great opportunity.

[Gautam]

Just checked the counter. It’s 50k+ now – http://bbpress.org/download/counter/

Also, bbPress 0.9 is close to the 150,000 mark: http://bbpress.org/download/counter/legacy

[Gautam]

It should be added (also signatures, emotions, bbCode etc.). People should get to know the power of bbPress on this forum itself.

[Gautam]

Hey,

That’s great news!

[Gautam]

Agreed, no need to make it into a plugin.

[daudev]

It works when i login first in bbpress, then I’m logged in wordpress also, but first in wordpress and then in bbpress is not working!

[daudev]

I don’t need to clear the cache, just the cookies, but yes I did, i cleared both!

[QuickD]

It mentions in the readme file to do this:

Copy and paste this: <?php bbad_ad_block(); ?> as the first line of post.php (before <div class="threadauthor">)

but I cannot find (before <div class="threadauthor">)

anywhere in post.php file, can it be the very first item of post.php?

[fundomaat]

The theme you’re using is a very hard one, so you could expect problems ]

And thanks to you for releasing this plugin, make sure to get in the directory!

https://bbpress.org/plugins/forum/requests

[grassrootspa]

I honestly don’t get this sudden push to make bbPress a WordPress plugin rather than continue as standalone software. There is so much potential for bbPress to grow and succeed in the 2010 standalone bulletin board market. Disagree? Think about this:

Remember back in 2004 when Movable Type pushed everyone away with their new pricing plan? The result: BLAM! WordPress REALLY took off, fitting the bill as a viable free easy-to-install, easy-to-use alternative.

One can make a strong argument that vBulletin is currently doing the same exact thing Movable Type did with their pricing plan snafu! (http://www.technologyquestions.com/2009/10/28/vbulletins-visceral-price-structure-angers-clients/) Check out this comment by donnacha which says even more: (http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2009/12/11/bbpress-lives/#comment-1321740)

Throw in how complicated phpBB and vBulletin are compared to bbPress (not to mention how easy bbPress is to pickup for those familiar with WordPress) and there is a major bulletin board niche opening for Automattic.

This current bbPress 1.1 development push can really provide a great vBulletin alternative if it is done right. Shine up bbPress so it has some of the default features vBulletin and other boards offer (as OPTIONS in the admin interface) and we will see an exodus a la Movable Type to WordPress in 2004.

[gerikg]

refresh the page and try again, sometimes this site does that.

[gerikg]

Do you want me to look at it? and did you clear your cache after you just have one line?

[QuickD]

Not available for download. Tried to download and the link to plugin creator and his email is down

[buddha-trance]

@ipstenu – I see… if there is duplication with deep integration, then as a plugin it would be lighter. I was also under the impression that a decision in this direction has been taken already, looking at the IRC chat…

I’ll continue to use, and love, bbPress regardless (and already use WP), though I’d prefer that it stayed as a standalone, because I think it has more potential this way, and it continues to cater also to those who are not interested in having to run WP at the same time. It is fair that opinions against the plugin idea be expressed and that Automattic becomes aware of the reasons behind them. This will allow for a better final decision.

It could be that the plugin idea is an impulsive one, based on the long lapse suffered by bbPress, and lack of a “grand” vision for this platform… or maybe they know what they are doing and the direction to take is to create an extra feature for WP, rather than a separate platform. In the end, of course, it’s up to Automattic.

Obviously, the decision is based on the potential number of new users. And the numbers increase if the platform is easy to use (a one click deal) and it integrates seamlessly with the blog. Though a plugin would deliver all this, it would also take away from a different crowd and future potential, and maybe there is a compromise. Some solution offering the one click deal like BuddyPress, while at the same time being able to run as a standalone and cater to the non-WP users who just want a forum. I don’t know if that is technically possible to achieve.

If theme integration is the only reason for bbPress to become a plugin, maybe there are alternatives, like something similar to the embed plugin https://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/embed-bbpress/, also mentioned in the IRC chat. One could build on that idea… and bbPress can be run as a standalone for those who choose to do so.

Maybe that is not the only reason, and the way things unfold will be (catered strictly to WP users + goodbye bbPress plugin developers and community):

WP(MUmerge) –> platform

BuddyPress –> plugin

bbPress –> plugin

[Maurice]

I’ve finally finished bbBlog 2.0. This plugin adds a blog page to you bbPress forum, using posts from a forum category, specified by you. (For those wanting to do some simple blogging without the WordPress installation hassle…)

You can download it here:

http://www.bbportal.org/bb-downloads/bb-blog2.0.zip

Demo:

http://www.bbportal.org/mssp/view.php?view=blog

Features:

– Total rewrite of the bbBlog plugin (1.0 compatible)

– Now a link to the blog is created under the “Views list” at the front-page (forum index)

– The blog items are now correctly filtering bold text, hyperlinks, smilies, etc (thanks _ck_)

– Comments() link now goes to the first comment made (thanks _ck_)

– You can now prevent members and guests to start blog posts (they can still reply)

– Now also showing topic tags

– Added sticky support: Topics marked as sticky now show on top on the blog page

– Admin display redesigned to match bbPress 1.0 admin area

– Blog post date uses the same Date Format as set in: Admin -> Settings -> General -> Date Format

– Now shows blog main category no subforums yet)

– Now pre-loads the selected (blog) forum in the dropdownlistbox in the admin area (thanks Ben L.)

To do:

– Set as start page, can be done by htcacces, how does WP do this?

– Generate a nicer error message when there are no topics in the blog like: “No blog started yet”

– Show some confirmation when settings are saved (this is broken in 1.0)

– Add pagination

– A “Read more” functionality. Show a Read more link after an amount of words set in the admin

– Add: You are not allowed to create new topics (like when locked topics)

– Sub category support (admin option?)

– Separate tags with commas

Enjoy!

ps: I am NO programmer, so don’t expect much support. Code suggestions and help (esp. with Read more and pagination) are welcome.

[chrishajer]

Thanks for your response arpowers.

[arpowers]

We have to charge to make these types of things possible; we’ll be doing a BBPress addon for each of our current themes plus the new ones coming.

Currently the forum code is GPL; although we do things to prevent ‘free’ distribution.

I will say that being on Automattic’s good side is pretty core to our business model and I think Thesis has taken the wrong approach.

[Jim R]

Deep integration has never worked with my theme, and I’ve had a couple within this topic look at it.

[Bluealek]

PLEASE make the integration of bbPress into WP just as simple as WP Forum / Forum Server – for these plugins all you have to do to integrate the forum is to make a blank page and insert a HTML code like [VastHTML].

I’m still running Forum Server only because I can’t integrate bbPress the way I’d like to, but I’d really love to switch because of it’s far superior forum possibilities (and it looks like the WP Forum / Forum Server development has been discontinued, so their bugs will probably never be solved).

Oh, another important thing for the wishlist: make it possible to import the WP Forum / Forum Server database.

[daudev]

Still the same, logged in the wordpress, not logged in the bbpress but can do it.

only with define( ‘COOKIEPATH’, ‘/’ ); in the both files!

But i look very carefully into the cookies.

I found 2 differences!

First for wordpress cookies

login cookie is with name wordpress_logged_in_xxxxx and path /

and other cookies are with path /wp-admin, wp-content/plugins, /forum/bb-admin /forum/bb-plugins

and for the bbpress cookies are

wordpress_xxxxxxx and path /

and other cookies are with path

website.com/wp-admin

website.comwp-content/plugins

website.com/forum/bb-admin

website.com/forum/bb-plugins

I think this is the problem, but I don’t knew how to fix it, to have path without the host in bbpress cookies…

[Matt Mullenweg]

We’ve got a set of new site editors here on bbPress.org, and so I wanted to start a thread for everybody to track anything they think could be improved in the copy and documentation of bbpress.org.

[illustrationism]

Thanks, I posted it.