[rlebowitz10463]

Hi,

I am using bbpress for my forum page, located at polina-such.freehostia.com/bbpress.

I am using the cool TooNewsy theme. (http://www.bbpressthemes.net/too-newsy/)

The only problem I have been having is that I cannot extend my header across the page without it somehow knocking the sidebar under the forum posts! I want the sidebar to stay where it is, but I also need the header to stretch across the page and not end prematurely.

I have tried for days to fix the css to no avail. I have also tried reaching out to the developers but have not as of yet gotten a response.

I would greatly appreciate it if anyone here can help. Thank you very, very much!

Robert

[r-a-y]

I’m going to try to answer the OP’s questions.

What is the advantage, of any, of having BBPress either instead of or in addition to BuddyPress?

Advantages of using bbPress – using bbPress plugins, forum categories and sub categories. If you want the traditional forum, go with bbPress.

BuddyPress’ internal bbPress relies on a concept called “groups” (similar to Facebook). You need to create a “group” in order to create a group forum. BP’s internal version of bbPress also uses a flat structure, you cannot categorize group forums into categories (as of now). Also, out of the box, you’ll need to port bbPress plugins to WP/BP in order to use them. Not many bbPress plugins have been ported to BP as of yet.

Advantages of using BuddyPress – template matches the rest of your site. Social networking in a box for WP (if you need it). Check out http://testbp.org/forums to view the forum layout.

Will (bbPress) now work with a straight WordPress install, or is it tied to WordPress MU at this point?

Works in both instances. bbPress integration plugin handles this fine.

(With the upcoming integration of WP and WPMU, at this juncture I simply don’t want to go through the hassle of installing MU.)

BuddyPress 1.2 is now supported by regular WP, so no need to install WPMU if you don’t need it.

[johnhiler]

The plugin works for me in bbPress 1.0.2. Is that the version you’re using?

If so, it’s probably going to rest on you: you most probably have a theme or plugin conflict.

[Marius-]

Well, hopefully the solution to this problem isnt entirely on my shoulders.

There are other people experiencing the same out there. Maybe someone can figure out how to solve this on their own. Without my participation. *Crossing fingers*

[johnhiler]

Sorry man, I’ve done as much remote diagnosis as I can!

If you’re not comfortable having a volunteer from here access your server (which I totally understand), you may want to hire someone? Either way, you should do a full backup of your entire database and files first!

Good luck…

[Marius-]

Can this have something to do with Ajax support failing, server-wise?

[johnhiler]

I was able to get the Polls plugin working on a 1.0.2 install…. so it should be possible.

You shouldn’t be editing the original template under /bb-templates/. You should move your custom theme to under /my-templates/, and then re-upload the old Kakumei under bb-templates.

It’s very helpful to have Kakumei around, when you’re attempting to eliminate themes as a source of conflict with plugins.

[Marius-]

Yeah, I havent made a separate theme. I´ve edited the original Kakumei that came with the software. So theres no “default theme” any more. Just one.

It seems you ran into this problem on other setups too, didnt you say so? Cause I see you´re doing the process of elimination, but I´m not the only one having this problem, so it must be something more universal.

[johnhiler]

All I was going to do was activate the original Kakumei theme and then re-test poll creation. Then de-activate Kakumei and go back to your original theme.

I know you mentioned you only changed the CSS, but even that could cause issues. So thought I’d try that, and also review your list of plugins to look for compatibility conflicts.

Feel free to try that stuff yourself! And good luck…

[Marius-]

Well I appreciate you trying to be helpful. I just cant hand out important stuff like that without knowing exactly how and when it will be used.

–

After this topic was created, I had a guy that registered on my forum to diss MJ and stink up the place by calling him a pedophile etc. Not much fun for the other members.

[johnhiler]

Ah sorry, I don’t really do IM support. Was just trying to be helpful…

I wouldn’t worry about 1.1… once you have something working, you don’t necessarily need to upgrade to the latest version unless you want to.

Re: 1.1, Matt’s update last week about the upcoming version didn’t mention polls: “[The] 1.1 release will include email notifications and anonymous posting, both of which are in trunk and would appreciate testing and patches. After that it’s bug fixes, and release.”

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/whats-happening-with-bbpress/page/5#post-64400

But I could’ve missed something!

[Marius-]

Well, add me to msn in case then: marius @ reager .no

I need direct contact for this type of deal.

But I asked earlier: is this worth it? Making an old plugin work?

Or should I forget about it, and wait for bbpress 1.1? Cause I understand a poll feature will be included there…

[yoyopop]

I echo the above comments – am transferring a phpbb forum to bbpress at the moment and it’s so refreshing!

[LizFilardi]

hey, can i use the same wordpress API key for my wordpress and bbpress integrated sites?

[gerikg]

I don’t know if anyone cares but I’ll just put it out there:

Every Theme you download from bbpressthemes.net (I can guarantee you the original authors didn’t do it) the headed.php has advertising codes….

<script language="javascript">

document.write('<style> #a1dd122 	{		margin: -40000px;		position: absolute;		text-align:right;	} </style>');

</script><a href="somewebsite" id="a1dd122">blah</a>

Is this considered okay???

[kevinjohngallagher]

Yeah, we debunked all that nonsense months ago here:

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/lets-talk-about-facebook-connect

If you want to reignite that conversation in it’s own thread then lets do so mate

I love how passionate you feel about it, and you obviously have some real world experience and exmaples to share. That’s great!

But lets not derail dbneeley’s thread any further

[Dailytalker]

Monday, December 7, 2009

Facebook hits 350 million users

It’s only been a couple of days since Facebook revealed that it had topped 350 million users — exceeding the population of the United States. Back in September 2009, Facebook users were around 300 millions. Facebook proved to be more popular than eBay, Wikipedia and the U.S.

Read more: http://www.blogtactic.com/2009/12/facebook-hits-350-million-users-latest.html#ixzz0gOfOpQCo

This could also be a chance for bbpress. Some cooperation sometimes could help more than a fight against a superpower. Saddam Hussein didn’t have any chance against Bush Jr. Therefore we should acknowledge that Facebook is the clear leader at the moment.

Facebook has become so huge that even some of its applications are drawing more traffic than many major Web sites

[gerikg]

KICKERMAN360 were you able to find a solution to your problem?

[kevinjohngallagher]

So we’re agreed that Facebook is not Superman.

Phew, i’d hate for two of us to make that mistake, better that just one of us looks daft!!!

[Dailytalker]

Yes, but facebook is only the clear market leader with some hundred millions potential visitors for a bbpress forum.

Facebook also has groups…so for instance if you are running a forum for politics…go to facebook, search for groups about politics and than post a link to your forum….with facebook-connect no problem because facebook users can easily login without having to register again. Without facebook-connect this doesn’t work…you can just forget it.

[kevinjohngallagher]

No facebook-connect login….thats a clear disadvantage

I know, i mean, we didn’t have forums before Facebook Connect. Infact, i think Facebook invented the internet just for Facebook Connect, since it landed on this planet years ago. It makes the world go round, and saves baby seals, and leaps over tall buildings, and stops speeding bullets and loves Lois Lane. Oh no, wait, thats Superman. Facebook Connect is a poorly rolled out, poorly suported bit of software that a hideously small percentage of people actually use. I sometimes get Superman and Facebook mixed up – apologies to all, especially one mister C.Kent.

[Dailytalker]

I use both….

wordpress with bbpress

http://www.dailytalk.ch/forum

Advantage: Forum is category based….see drop down menu structure.

Disadvantage: No facebook-connect login….thats a clear disadvantage also integration with wordpress is difficult

wordpress mu or wordpress with buddypress 1.2.1 and bbpress

http://www.dailytalk.com

Advantage: Integration is very easy, you can have groups, group blogs and group forum topics, facebook-connect is available…bp-fbconnect plugin

Disadvantage: Forum is only group based no categories available.

[tflight]

paulhawke, I’d like to try out your plugin, if available.

[kevinjohngallagher]

Hi dbneeley,

You’ve asked a great set of questions, and i’m afraid my answer is going to fall well short of code012’s.

Basically, i’d suggest asking that question on the BuddyPress website. At the risk of looking like passing the buck, BuddyPress is using a hacked/modified version of bbPress, so most of the things we’d have to say on this forum would be from a standalone viewpoint and might not give the depth of answer you’d want.

But if others chip in like code012 did, then you may have just gotten lucky.

Take Care

[code012]

That’s a good question.

I did some research as well, and planning to give BuddyPress a try soon. I just finished going WPMU from WP and finding it very interesting. I love it so far.

I think the answers that you and I are looking for would depend on community system.

To simply put, you won’t have problems with WP if you’re not planning to create a huge community-based websites. A portfolio website, or any kind of your personal or single-topic website wouldn’t have too much problem with it. WP actually has better participations from people around the world than WPMU. And with bbPress, you can setup your community with ease. The main reason that you would want to use bbPress with WP is the user integration. People who registered at your blog can go to forum and post without creating another login, or vise versa.

As you know, WPMU can have a single unified user DB so any users who registered from maindomain.com, site36.maindomain.com and hax0r.maindomain.com can post any other websites as long as they’re within your WPMU system.

BuddyPress is pushing that idea further, bringing everyone on your WPMU system, using the famous Facebook-like wall system, but not limited to.

Let’s say your maindomain.com is about cars, but the website that you gave out to your friend is area51.maindomain.com which is about UFOs. You have two separate websites of two separate interests. And let’s say each website has their own bbPress forum, then odds are that your car people has no chance of meeting UFO people, because they’re not sharing the same interest, therefore no reason to hop over to the other website’s forum. That doesn’t mean the people who like cars don’t have interest in UFOs, but since it’s two different interests that members wouldn’t go back and forth just to share their everyday discussion. Many people are used to the people on their favorite forum, so they stick to the forum.

With BuddyPress, you can bring these people into one place. Anyone can start a discussion about anything. And with BuddyPress, there’s enhanced profile, friend connection and private message systems that bbPress would require plugins for.

bbPress is like a meeting room, people gathered for the same interest.

BuddyPress is like a lobby, where everyone can meet and make connections.

If you want a lobby for everyone to come together, then BuddyPress will help you just that.

If forum system works right and if you’re not interested creating a lobby for everyone, that’s cool too. It’s all about how you want to manage your community.

And where did you hear about the WP and WPMU integration? That would be a great news for WPMU users since we’ll have more community participating for catching bugs and making plugins.