[btko]

Hello,

I’m starting to modify the Kakumei theme and I’m kind of stuck; I’ve made a new folder in ‘my-templates’ and I copied over the style.css from the Kakumei theme. I plan to use it as a starting point for something more personal.

But there are is zero CSS being applied now: http://btko.webfactional.com/sq36/forums/

From reading the Docs I understood it that by just having the style.css bbPress should find all of the other files it needs from the default theme, but it doesn’t seem to be finding anything.

Any thoughts?

Regards,

[yoyopop]

Hiya,

Very sorry for long post, hoping someone might be help to shed some light on this problem…

If you try to add a tag to a topic that doesn’t have any tags yet, using the box below the topic title, the whole page refreshes in order to add the tag (whereas it should do it within the page using Ajax).

If you try to add a tag to a topic which already has at least one tag, then it comes up within the page, highlighted yellow etc using Ajax. That should be normal.

Then, if you try to delete all the tags in a topic which has more than one tag, when you attempt to delete the last one it flashes red to denote it’s being deleted, but it then pops up again and a message appears saying ‘An unidentified error has occurred.‘

– – –

I had a similar problem a few weeks ago, with the tags ajax function not working, which I found out was due to a single space at the end of one plugin file.

Now though, I have disabled all plugins, am using the default template, I have re-uploaded both older backup versions and the latest trunk version of bbpress, but still have the problem!!

Am not sure if it could be a problem with the database? Looking at my database, the bb_tags and bb_tagged tables are both empty?? I do have tags in my forum though, where are they stored?

Does anyone have any clue as to the problem?

It could be the ajax is broken because of a random extra character somewhere?

Or the ‘unidentified error’ is due to the database??

[ghettobsd]

Ok, so both my blog and forum are set up properly and working fine.

I did some hacking to get rid of the back tick to quote option.

So I’m posting for the fist time “I’m” and it posts as “I/’m”

I try to find the problem and can’t.

I end up making 3 db’s total:

db 1) Using what I have (results in /’)

db 2) Clean install, using only themes (results in /’)

db 3) Clean install, no themes, no hacks nothing, just integrated with cookies (results in /’)

Any one have any idea what’s going on?

Both are latest releases. Everything else works fine. Integration works etc etc

I created a new DB with clean installs of both wp and bb with the same results. Different user names, default themes etc. Nothing worked.

tia!

[kevinjohngallagher]

Hi Matt,

What version of bbPress are you using, what version of WordPress, are you definately 100% not using WPMU or BuddyPress, and are you using default themese ?

Thanks

[gerikg]

If you want it like this site…. An easy way to do it is…

the front page of the default theme is broken into two parts.

If you open front-page.php serach for these div codes, everything on the left is between “id=”hottags” role=”main””

Everything on the right is between “div id=”discussions”” JUst move what you want in them.

All you have to do is adjust the width/margin of both css styles.

style.css (line 285) #front-page #hottags for the left side change the width

style.css (line 293) #front-page #discussions change margin left to be 20px more than what you pick for the left column width and the width to fit.

(Why doesn’t this site have a demo on bbpress! I hate changing my theme back to default to answer questions!)

[chrishajer]

It would be strange if you were using the default theme and no plugins and it would do this. Especially if you did not modify any core files. Did the trouble first start after you made modifications?

Not all hosts have error logs enabled.

[sajp]

Can anyone help me with this?

I’ve been setting up my own template for my installation of bbPress (modifying a copy of Kakumei), and at some point along the way the function to register as a new user has broken. Now when you fill in the registration form and click submit, you just get a blank page. No details arrive via email, but the user does appear as registered in the back end of bbPress. I can’t work out where the error is occurring!

I’ve tried switching back to the default theme: no effect.

My only active plug in is Askimet. I tried disabling that: no effect.

I don’t think I edited any of the core files (I’ve just been working in my own template folder), so I’ve run out of ideas!

Can anyone give me any other areas I should investigate?

Thanks!

[Rootside]

Thanks a lot for your help, zaerl – at least we now know that it should be working, or at least it looks like it should be. That’s valuable info.

I’m not sure I’m using the ‘WordPress bbPress cookie plugin’ you mention – I think I’ve seen several plugins that promise to get the integration right – can you point me to the ‘right’ one?

The only plugin I’m using is bbPress Integration 1.0 by Michael Adams and Sam Bauers.

Any other suggestions/guesses? I’d be happy to report back – finding out what’s causing the “email is required” behaviour might be helpful to everybody, considering that there’s at least one other person (Terranb) who’s getting this, and also in light of kevinjohngallagher’s and timskii’s remarks.

Some more information:

The configuration is the same as zaerl’s (except maybe for the plugin mentioned above) – WordPress and bbPress are sharing users, I don’t get booted out of one when I log into the other etc.

The site is hosted on Media Temple’s Grid Service, running PHP 5.2.6 and MySQL 5.1.26

Feel free to have a look if it helps (it’s work in progress):

http://dev.sandithom.com

I’ve tried switching back to the default theme, but the problem was exactly the same…

Thanks everybody – good to find people who are passionate about making it work.

[tcarr184]

Kevin, thank you. Interesting way to ask that question…

I am looking at the backend and at the files and I am pretty sure it is bbpress. Otherwise how would the default template from bbpress run on the site?

Why would the link in the footer bring me to this site if it was the buddypress version?

“Unfiltered MMA is proudly powered by bbPress.”

Thats interesting.

Maybe all this time I have had the wrong software going… Still interesting that BBPress is able to get the user info from wordpress but just not able to activate the members.

[tcarr184]

I switched back to the default theme in hopes that would solve the issue but have had no luck. After I get this figured out I intend to switch themes but my thinking this would be easier to resolve with the default theme in place and I have not made any edits to it yet.

[chrishajer]

Looks like you’re using the default template. Did you modify it at all?

Did you integrate with WordPress?

What plugins are you using?

Does the browser in use make a difference?

[kevinjohngallagher]

I’m going to do something strange here AmplifiedShock, I’m going to ask you NOT to do that.

The “bbPress” that BuddyPress uses is not the same as this “bbPress”. It is heavily heavily modified. Basically the whole of BackPress is removed and replaced by custom functions, and then some of the middle tiering has been rewritten, and a little bit of the front end output and default theme.

A large chunk of the support requests we deal with each day/week is people coming here because BuddyPress calls their forums “bbPress”. We need to be able to tell people honestly and without looking like we’re being difficult, that if they use BuddyPress we can’t help them.

I’m sure it’s technically possible to do anything. I’m sure once it’s technically possible, it’s easier to write a guide for people to follow. You seem to be good enough to do that But with bbPress being turned into a WP plugin and Matt publicly telling people not to use this software; inviting more support queries that end in “we simply can’t help you” isn’t going to help us at all.

Now if you felt like writing more tutorials on converting from other forums to bbPress, I’m sure there would be a good market in that for you!

And, as always, thanks for your time

[kevinjohngallagher]

It comes with 1 default theme, but you can create your own very easily or download others from the internet. There are not that many around currently, but enough for most people.

It would be very helpful to enable us to answer you if you give us some information about what you were looking for in a theme or forum?

[Milan Dinić]

To repeat unfixed issues from my previous post here:

• in login form in header, username and password are not deleted when you click on it, so you need to manually delete them (this is when you are logged put, of course)
• better aligning on post form on plugin’s pages
• more margin between columns on user’s favorites page
• no subscribe to topic link (I’m now wondering could be this solved by using action topicmeta instead of hardcoding in theme since this won’t work in any theme by default)

Ideas:

• gravatars could be added to posts on plugin’s page too
• RSS icons on links to RSS feeds

[r-a-y]

For those not using deep integration and want to use BuddyPress avatars, check out this forum post I just made on BuddyPress.org:

https://buddypress.org/community/groups/how-to-and-troubleshooting/forum/topic/how-to-definitively-display-buddypress-avatars-in-bbpress/?topic_page=1&num=15#post-56018

If you’re using WPMU, replace the $avatar_folder_url with:

$avatar_folder_url = '/files/avatars/'. $author_id;

[Petehds]

There is no default theme in the admin panel. Can I download it from somewhere for my version? Also; not familiar with “development environment”.

[holysjit]

Still it doesn’t work. In BBpress my avatars work perfect, but in wordpress it shows the default Gravatar icon. HELP!

[kevinjohngallagher]

Hi Cillian,

sorry, the weekend got away from me a little.

My suggestions are going to seem really really obvious, sorry in advance, but good to check these things out.

1) Did logging in/out work before?

2) What changed since then?

Can you change back to the default themes in bbPress and WordPress and then do the following, noting your server error log along the way (after each step):

3) navigate away form your website, then clear your cookies, the restart your browser.

4) Try and login via your bbPress.

5) navigate away form your website, then clear your cookies, the restart your browser.

6) Try and login via WordPress

7) navigate away form your website, then clear your cookies, the restart your browser.

try and register with bbPress

9) navigate away form your website, then clear your cookies, the restart your browser.

10) Register via WordPress.

I know those steps are painful, and a bit pedantic, but cookies are a VERY big pain if they don’t work first time when integrating these two systems (especially if you’re logged in as admin/keymaster at the time of installation/integration). Right now, it appears you’re in the 1% rather than the 99% mate, but lets try and fix that.

Kev

[chrishajer]

You want to throttle those users then. There is a setting in the admin under Settings > Writing called “Throttle time”. I think it’s 30 seconds by default. Set that to longer and people will not be able to post again for that long. If you set it to 180, it would be three minutes.

This does not find and remove duplicate posts, but it prevents most of them from happening. The side effect is that if someone is responding to multiple posts quickly, they are prevented from posting to different topics within that throttle time too.

I don’t know of a plugin that will find and eliminate duplicate topics.

You can also disable the submit button after it is clicked the first time, using JavaScript, in case the reason people are posting duplicates is because you are on a slow server.

[GW]

Hi Kevin,

I’m currently logged out and it wont leave me log in again, hence the dire situation

I’m using businesslike, but I have switched back to default to see if it makes any difference. It doesn’t(!)

[kevinjohngallagher]

Four little bugs with the theme:

1) Pagination duplication on Profile page:

http://www.kevinjohngallagher.com/bbpress_duplication_of_pagination.png

2) Pagination on Profile page:

Posts started will only appear/work on the first page. As soon as you move to page 2 or above, it says you’ve not started any ( haha, we all know I’ve started more than i should have ;-] )

3) bbPress Edit area:

http://www.kevinjohngallagher.com/bbpress_edit_area.png

It’s not been looked at in the slightest. Even teh default styles haven’t been applied.

4) bbpress Edit area:

If you write some code in a <code> tag. and edit your post, bbPress now puts in <p> and <br /> tags into your code on every line. If yuo’re syslexic like me and struggle with the small font, and edit code based posts a few times to remove errors, you get alot of added code.

5) RSS feed:

The new RSS feed has new/added HTML. If you’re RSS reader is a mail client (say google or windows live mail) then it strips these extra tags, but if you’re not using an overly sophisticated RSS client, you see everything wrapped in a <p> tag.

From what I can tell, and this may be down to the latest trunk version rather than the theme, it appears to wrap each paragraph twice in the <p> tags.

Thanks to Noel or whoever at Automattic is working on fixing these, we apprecaite it

[kevinjohngallagher]

Ok, lets see what we can do here:

1) What version of WordPress?

2) What version of bbPress?

3) Are they integrated (share login cookies)?

4) Are they “deep integrated” (can call functions in the other program)?

5) Do you have the latest version of akismet on both WP and bbP?

6) What happens when you log in and post?

7) What happens when you log in and post as a new user (i.e. not as you)?

Are you using buddyPress?

9) Have to tried disabling all plugins and trying again?

10) Are you using a premium (paid for) theme?

11) If so, have to tried switching to the default theme?

12) When you say things appear in your akismet que and then akismet

13) Are comments getting through akismet on wordpress?

I selected the check box next to “Create a page that shows spam

statistics” on the Akismet page. The page showed there was 26 post in the spam section.

I selected spam in the drop down box but the messages do not show up even

after I click on filter. I don’t know of any other way to get to the

messages to see if they are all spam

Um, is this on the wordpress side or the bbPress side?

[honestscott]

Thanks!

I just did that, I changed the secret key in the bb-config.php file, thanks for the tip.

So to recap these are the steps I used to close my bbpress forum, and make it a “read only” forum.

1. I edited the header.php file in bb-templates folder (whatever template you are using, I am using the default Kakumei) and removed this line:

<?php if ( !in_array( bb_get_location(), array( ‘login-page’, ‘register-page’ ) ) ) login_form(); ?>

Now the register, and log-in form doesn’t even appear.

2. I changed all my forums to categories, now no one can start a new topic, or post on an old one, but everything is still readable, and this is what I wanted.

You can do this from the forums section in your bbpress dashboard, there is a box you can check to change each forum into a category.

3. I changed the secret key in the bb-config.php file located in the bbpress root folder.

This will expire all their auto log-ins and keep them from being able to log-in without a log-in form.

Thanks for the help everyone!

I hope this helps.

Scott

[kevinjohngallagher]

Gravatars is a wonderful tool, and those of us who are technical or on multiple forums can see their advantage. The average joe blog, probably can’t; or doesn’t have one already.

When joe average says “hey, how do i upload an avatar like jim bob over there?” and your answer involves him leaving your website, signing up for a wordpress account and then… etc. it’s over!

Gravatars are a nice default, but it’s far from a solution for the majority of forums out there.

To give a few examples:

1) I only uploaded an avatar to Gravatars last week. This aint my first or only forum and i’m slightly more technical and active on forums that the average joe user.

2) On my largest bbPress site (which isn’t that big compared to others on here) less than 1% of users have a gravatar, and definately less than 5% of active users do ( i made on of those Gravatar walls for them last week after Matt posted a link to one on planet.wordpress.org)

It’s definaely something I’d recommend to everyone to see what teh Gravatar uptake on their forums is actually like.

3) Depending on the forum, human avatars aren’t ideal. I run a forum for my brothers warcraft group. 2-300 users, about 30 active each day. Since enabling avatars for them, not 1 picture of them; just loads of gnomes and green skinned dudes.

Sadly, as a forum, one of bbPress’ big downfalls from an end user perspective is personalisation (and Avatars being one).

[Yojance Rabelo]

I figured it out after reading the documentation and knowing which file was being pulled when you first view the Forums. The file turned out to be named: front-page.php and it’s located in the default theme (kakumei)