[holysjit]

Still it doesn’t work. In BBpress my avatars work perfect, but in wordpress it shows the default Gravatar icon. HELP!

[kevinjohngallagher]

Hi Cillian,

sorry, the weekend got away from me a little.

My suggestions are going to seem really really obvious, sorry in advance, but good to check these things out.

1) Did logging in/out work before?

2) What changed since then?

Can you change back to the default themes in bbPress and WordPress and then do the following, noting your server error log along the way (after each step):

3) navigate away form your website, then clear your cookies, the restart your browser.

4) Try and login via your bbPress.

5) navigate away form your website, then clear your cookies, the restart your browser.

6) Try and login via WordPress

7) navigate away form your website, then clear your cookies, the restart your browser.

try and register with bbPress

9) navigate away form your website, then clear your cookies, the restart your browser.

10) Register via WordPress.

I know those steps are painful, and a bit pedantic, but cookies are a VERY big pain if they don’t work first time when integrating these two systems (especially if you’re logged in as admin/keymaster at the time of installation/integration). Right now, it appears you’re in the 1% rather than the 99% mate, but lets try and fix that.

Kev

[chrishajer]

You want to throttle those users then. There is a setting in the admin under Settings > Writing called “Throttle time”. I think it’s 30 seconds by default. Set that to longer and people will not be able to post again for that long. If you set it to 180, it would be three minutes.

This does not find and remove duplicate posts, but it prevents most of them from happening. The side effect is that if someone is responding to multiple posts quickly, they are prevented from posting to different topics within that throttle time too.

I don’t know of a plugin that will find and eliminate duplicate topics.

You can also disable the submit button after it is clicked the first time, using JavaScript, in case the reason people are posting duplicates is because you are on a slow server.

[GW]

Hi Kevin,

I’m currently logged out and it wont leave me log in again, hence the dire situation

I’m using businesslike, but I have switched back to default to see if it makes any difference. It doesn’t(!)

[kevinjohngallagher]

Four little bugs with the theme:

1) Pagination duplication on Profile page:

http://www.kevinjohngallagher.com/bbpress_duplication_of_pagination.png

2) Pagination on Profile page:

Posts started will only appear/work on the first page. As soon as you move to page 2 or above, it says you’ve not started any ( haha, we all know I’ve started more than i should have ;-] )

3) bbPress Edit area:

http://www.kevinjohngallagher.com/bbpress_edit_area.png

It’s not been looked at in the slightest. Even teh default styles haven’t been applied.

4) bbpress Edit area:

If you write some code in a <code> tag. and edit your post, bbPress now puts in <p> and <br /> tags into your code on every line. If yuo’re syslexic like me and struggle with the small font, and edit code based posts a few times to remove errors, you get alot of added code.

5) RSS feed:

The new RSS feed has new/added HTML. If you’re RSS reader is a mail client (say google or windows live mail) then it strips these extra tags, but if you’re not using an overly sophisticated RSS client, you see everything wrapped in a <p> tag.

From what I can tell, and this may be down to the latest trunk version rather than the theme, it appears to wrap each paragraph twice in the <p> tags.

Thanks to Noel or whoever at Automattic is working on fixing these, we apprecaite it

[kevinjohngallagher]

Ok, lets see what we can do here:

1) What version of WordPress?

2) What version of bbPress?

3) Are they integrated (share login cookies)?

4) Are they “deep integrated” (can call functions in the other program)?

5) Do you have the latest version of akismet on both WP and bbP?

6) What happens when you log in and post?

7) What happens when you log in and post as a new user (i.e. not as you)?

Are you using buddyPress?

9) Have to tried disabling all plugins and trying again?

10) Are you using a premium (paid for) theme?

11) If so, have to tried switching to the default theme?

12) When you say things appear in your akismet que and then akismet

13) Are comments getting through akismet on wordpress?

I selected the check box next to “Create a page that shows spam

statistics” on the Akismet page. The page showed there was 26 post in the spam section.

I selected spam in the drop down box but the messages do not show up even

after I click on filter. I don’t know of any other way to get to the

messages to see if they are all spam

Um, is this on the wordpress side or the bbPress side?

[honestscott]

Thanks!

I just did that, I changed the secret key in the bb-config.php file, thanks for the tip.

So to recap these are the steps I used to close my bbpress forum, and make it a “read only” forum.

1. I edited the header.php file in bb-templates folder (whatever template you are using, I am using the default Kakumei) and removed this line:

<?php if ( !in_array( bb_get_location(), array( ‘login-page’, ‘register-page’ ) ) ) login_form(); ?>

Now the register, and log-in form doesn’t even appear.

2. I changed all my forums to categories, now no one can start a new topic, or post on an old one, but everything is still readable, and this is what I wanted.

You can do this from the forums section in your bbpress dashboard, there is a box you can check to change each forum into a category.

3. I changed the secret key in the bb-config.php file located in the bbpress root folder.

This will expire all their auto log-ins and keep them from being able to log-in without a log-in form.

Thanks for the help everyone!

I hope this helps.

Scott

[kevinjohngallagher]

Gravatars is a wonderful tool, and those of us who are technical or on multiple forums can see their advantage. The average joe blog, probably can’t; or doesn’t have one already.

When joe average says “hey, how do i upload an avatar like jim bob over there?” and your answer involves him leaving your website, signing up for a wordpress account and then… etc. it’s over!

Gravatars are a nice default, but it’s far from a solution for the majority of forums out there.

To give a few examples:

1) I only uploaded an avatar to Gravatars last week. This aint my first or only forum and i’m slightly more technical and active on forums that the average joe user.

2) On my largest bbPress site (which isn’t that big compared to others on here) less than 1% of users have a gravatar, and definately less than 5% of active users do ( i made on of those Gravatar walls for them last week after Matt posted a link to one on planet.wordpress.org)

It’s definaely something I’d recommend to everyone to see what teh Gravatar uptake on their forums is actually like.

3) Depending on the forum, human avatars aren’t ideal. I run a forum for my brothers warcraft group. 2-300 users, about 30 active each day. Since enabling avatars for them, not 1 picture of them; just loads of gnomes and green skinned dudes.

Sadly, as a forum, one of bbPress’ big downfalls from an end user perspective is personalisation (and Avatars being one).

[Yojance Rabelo]

I figured it out after reading the documentation and knowing which file was being pulled when you first view the Forums. The file turned out to be named: front-page.php and it’s located in the default theme (kakumei)

[kevinjohngallagher]

Morning lads,

Sun is shining here, hope you’re all having a great day.

@mr_pelle

I think we’re going in circles a little here; and its a position we’ve all been in and can feel your pain a little.

I see where I might have confused you yesterday.

Including the WordPress loader in the bbPress config file, so that bbPress has access to WordPress functions, is where most (if not all) of the deep integration questions/work/answers have been derived from. It’s a one way system, calling wordpress functions in bbpress. It’s not a two way system (where wordpress can call bbpress functions, and vice versa).

Hardcoding is not a good choice IMHO, because it means you have to update many pages everytime you change your mind just on a single line of code

Not really. You’d have to edit it once in the header in wrodpress and once in the header in bbpress. Being absolutely frank with you, that is the minimum you have to do everytime you make a change to your themes anyway because bbpress and wordpress don’t load the same theme files.

The way to think of bbPress and WordPress is of two separate systems that share login cookies and you can fake each’s themes make look like each other.

It’s a tough nut to get round, espeically with them being built and maintained by the same company (who are usually awesome at this sort of thing), but really, and it pains me to say this, they don’t integrate. You/me/everyone read the front page and assume it’s not [trying not to say the word ‘lie’ here]; and we expect it to be one thing and it’s not. I don’t say that to casue annoyance, i’m just tyring to manage expectations a little.

bbPress and WordPress are two separate systems which can be made to share login cookies.

Wasn’t bbPress born for this (and more)?

Nope.

bbPress was born for the sole purpose of running the wordPress support forums.

Cookie integration was a nice idea added sometime around 0.8 (as i recall), was awesome for 5 weeks with 0.9 before a wordpress update broke it. Automattic got round to fixing it some 14 months later.

bbPress playing nice with wordpress is a nice hook on the front page, it is not now, nor shall be, it’s purpose. (hence Matt telling people to not use the software, and that he’s scrapping it to become a wordPress plugin instead).

Not to mention that the code you suggested does not handle login errors…

Yeah it does. Login errors are always handled on the login page. (wp-login.php and bb-login.php). All we’ve built is a form that points to those pages.

If you login successfully you’ll be redirected back to your page, if not you’ll hit the original/default login page with the error.

if you’re looking to recreate the wp-login/bb-login page on every/all pages with all the functionality that entails, then you’ve a much bigger job on your hands, and if i’m honest, i’d head to the wordpress forums for some help there (in my experience wordpress is fussy about wp-login being used).

[TrishaM]

Yes, the my-templates folder and its two sub-folders are set to 755. I did find that suggestion when searching for a fix, and made sure of that before posting my question, but it did not make any difference – I still can only choose from the two default (kakumei) themes……

I use 1&1 for hosting, and I don’t think they’ve made any changes but if I knew what to look for I could check that specifically – also, the my-templates folder was fine before I upgraded from 0.9.0.2 to the latest 1.0.2

What I’m doing in the meantime is just modifying the default kakumei theme, but that is not ideal because I’ll have to remember to keep it backed up and not overwrite it on the next upgrade…..I’d prefer to find a solution to the problem.

I’m grateful for any help anyone can offer.

[chrishajer]

You could use a plugin to make all topics sticky by default. I haven’t seen that plugin yet, but I believe it would be possible to just make all the topics sticky when published.

[GW]

Hi. I’m new to bbpress, and I seem to be having the same problem. The theme folders in my-templates do not show up on the Appearance page of my bb-admin. I’ve tried the 755 fix to no avail. Only the two default themes show up

[TrishaM]

Hi Gautam – thanks for your response.

Below is what is at the top of my custom theme’s style.css – I did compare it to the default (kakumei) theme to be sure something hadn’t changed there with the new version of bbPress, but this should be working. It was working fine before the upgrade, but after the upgrade bbPress no longer ‘sees’ the two themes in the my-templates folder (the other is a testing theme I occasionally use to test new things). It does find the my-plugins folder just fine, just not the my-templates.

/*

Theme Name: TWE New

Theme URI: http://www.tech-kitten.com/

Description: Custom bbPress theme to match TWE site.

Version: 1.02

Author: Trisha Miller

Author URI: http://www.tech-kitten.com/

*/

[kevinjohngallagher]

Ok, so I noticed a small bug when posting this (because I went to edit and the edit link is tiny).

Line 99 of the stylesheet has “font-size:0.8em” (which seems accurate) but according to Firebug it thinks that the 960 reset is loaded afterwards as its loaded via 3 different @import commands (fyi – madness) because of how the browser handles loading of child stylesheets (it’s not concurrent). The 960 reset states that “font-size:100%” for everything.

So firebug, and chrome tools will all show that they’re applying “font-size:100%” which in essence they are, they’re just applying 100% of the 0.8em.

EDIT: ok, so a bit more investigation turns out that “em”s were decided to be used for some of the links and things on the left under the avatar, while “%”s were used elsewhere, and “px”s were specified for other text – so its really a bit of a mish mash that has high potential to look different on every system (especially as the css reset is loaded 3rd or 4th by the browser); compunded by a choice to use different looking fonts per system.

On line 103 of style.css we specify the font for the actual forum post text:

#bborg-discussion #thread div.post {

font-size:12px;

}

Now according to Firebug and chrome dev tools the font-size:12px is scored out (as if it’s being overwritten) because the reset is loaded after. But if you click on it in firebug to actually disable it, hey presto, the font actually grows to the default size.

Oh and more of an FYI as to why it’s hard to debug, after we apply our reset and our styles, we then have this added by the 960’s text stylesheet that will mess with the base units:

body{font:13px/1.5 Helvetica,Arial,’Liberation Sans’,FreeSans,sans-serif}

We basically play about with the font-sizes all over the shop in the stylesheets, and the fonts used too (i can see about 10 fonts listed).

[kevinjohngallagher]

Thanks for that Chris, v helpful.

Your text seems a tad bigger than mine but I think i might have found some of the issues.

1) The stylesheet specifies “Lucida Grande,Tahoma,’Bitstream Vera Sans’,Arial,sans-serif” and I’m not sure it was tested on all of those fonts.

There’s quite a large difference between the way Lucia Grande and Tahoma look on windows (and people with Safari on Windows can now have Lucia Grande; but its not there by default), and at 12px and above Tahoma and Arial start to look differently too…

2) In comparing what I can see on the forums and your screenshot, I’m getting 2extra words per line.

Either way, it’s a drop in text size of a considerable amount. And a drop in the amount of space that the text is given in comparison to the old theme (not that an increased avatar doesn’t help the conversation but…)

3) On the forum listing, since last week, some of the text has been of a bigger size than others. Specifically:

#bborg-discussions table td div {

font-size:14px;

}

Edit: I have no extrnal css stuff going on, which i put down to laziness

[TrishaM]

I’ve just upgraded to newest version 1.0.2 and now can no longer access my “my-templates” folder with my custom theme files. In addition, it thinks that there are three versions of the default kakumei theme even though there is only one instance of that theme folder in the bb-templates folder.

It won’t even recognize my custom theme if I put it into the bb-templates folder – although the theme has worked perfectly before the upgrade, I have no way to choose it now.

I’ve searched for hours and cannot find any fix for this (and yes I did make sure that my permissions are set correctly to 755). I followed the upgrade instructions to the letter.

Has anyone else run into this problem and found a solution?

[_ck_]

Hmm, my font-size increase trick is no longer working, someone changed the stylesheet.

The default font-size is ridiculously small.

Did someone seriously hard code the font-sizes into PX instead of percent or em?

Ah this will fix it in Stylish

* {font-size:98% !important;}

[free-russia-net]

Sorry, does anybody knows here how to settle such a problem. No pictures could be seen in my bbPress forum and the basic theme can not be changed, because no other theme works properly. For example, the is definitely a file on the server http://www.free-russia.net/bbpress/my-plugins/bbpress-polls/icon.png but .htaccess file of WordPress redirects to the 404 error page.

The .htaccess file is this one:

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# BEGIN WPSuperCache

<IfModule mod_rewrite.c>

RewriteEngine On

RewriteBase /

AddDefaultCharset UTF-8

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^.*[^/]$

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^.*//.*$

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_METHOD} !POST

RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} !.*=.*

RewriteCond %{HTTP:Cookie} !^.*(comment_author_|wordpress|wp-postpass_).*$

RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} !^.*(2.0 MMP|240×320|400X240|AvantGo|BlackBerry|Blazer|Cellphone|Danger|DoCoMo|Elaine/3.0|EudoraWeb|Googlebot-Mobile|hiptop|IEMobile|KYOCERA/WX310K|LG/U990|MIDP-2.|MMEF20|MOT-V|NetFront|Newt|Nintendo Wii|Nitro|Nokia|Opera Mini|Palm|PlayStation Portable|portalmmm|Proxinet|ProxiNet|SHARP-TQ-GX10|SHG-i900|Small|SonyEricsson|Symbian OS|SymbianOS|TS21i-10|UP.Browser|UP.Link|webOS|Windows CE|WinWAP|YahooSeeker/M1A1-R2D2|iPhone|iPod|Android|BlackBerry9530|LG-TU915 Obigo|LGE VX|webOS|Nokia5800).*

RewriteCond %{HTTP:Accept-Encoding} gzip

RewriteCond /home/freerus/public_html/wp-content/cache/supercache/%{HTTP_HOST}/$1/index.html.gz -f

RewriteRule ^(.*) /wp-content/cache/supercache/%{HTTP_HOST}/$1/index.html.gz [L]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^.*[^/]$

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^.*//.*$

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_METHOD} !POST

RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} !.*=.*

RewriteCond %{HTTP:Cookie} !^.*(comment_author_|wordpress|wp-postpass_).*$

RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} !^.*(2.0 MMP|240×320|400X240|AvantGo|BlackBerry|Blazer|Cellphone|Danger|DoCoMo|Elaine/3.0|EudoraWeb|Googlebot-Mobile|hiptop|IEMobile|KYOCERA/WX310K|LG/U990|MIDP-2.|MMEF20|MOT-V|NetFront|Newt|Nintendo Wii|Nitro|Nokia|Opera Mini|Palm|PlayStation Portable|portalmmm|Proxinet|ProxiNet|SHARP-TQ-GX10|SHG-i900|Small|SonyEricsson|Symbian OS|SymbianOS|TS21i-10|UP.Browser|UP.Link|webOS|Windows CE|WinWAP|YahooSeeker/M1A1-R2D2|iPhone|iPod|Android|BlackBerry9530|LG-TU915 Obigo|LGE VX|webOS|Nokia5800).*

RewriteCond /home/freerus/public_html/wp-content/cache/supercache/%{HTTP_HOST}/$1/index.html -f

RewriteRule ^(.*) /wp-content/cache/supercache/%{HTTP_HOST}/$1/index.html [L]

</IfModule>

# END WPSuperCache

# BEGIN WordPress

<IfModule mod_rewrite.c>

RewriteEngine On

RewriteBase /

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d

RewriteRule . /index.php [L]

</IfModule>

# END WordPress

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The blog is here: http://free-russia.net and the forum is here: http://free-russia.net/bbpress.

Could anybody say what should be added or changed to make the forum work properly?

[Arturo]

http://forum.buddypress-it.it/topic/buddypress-default-theme-for-bbpress?replies=5#post-1297 = no deep integration needed

[gerikg]

http://forum.buddypress-it.it/topic/buddypress-default-theme-for-bbpress?replies=5#post-1288 = deep integration

[Arturo]

hi rockyteng,

thank you, u’re welcome

[chrishajer]

If this is a problem with the forum at wordpress.org you would get more response reporting the error there, since the version of bbPress they use there is not a default installation by any means.

https://wordpress.org/report-bugs/

[Arturo]

Finally the “normal” version of BuddyPress Default theme for bbPress is ready for the download.

This theme DOES NOT require the deep integration.

For the download link, info, request etc, go here.

I think all works without a problem, but a debugging is appreciated.

one last thing… sorry for the delay.

Enjoy!

[Arturo]

hi, i need the function to show the user’s avatar on the forum sidebar, anyone can help me?

thanks

edit: i’ve tested this

<?php echo bb_get_avatar($user->ID, 40, $default); ?>

but i see a generic avatar and not my gravatar… help me!