@WimTibackX
You know what might be worth checking out? Vanilla 2 (forum software) is pretty solid, and it’s built on “Garden” which is exactly like the BackPress concept you were talking about.
I’ve been trying to get bbPress to take care of my forum needs for a while, because I’m a heavy WordPress user and I’d like the two to integrate.
However, given the current level of frustration I’ve had with getting the integration to actually work, and the frustrating limitations of bbPress which don’t appear to be going away any time soon, I’m becoming more interested in seeing a fork of WordPress to run on top of Garden and integrate with Vanilla.
Anybody? Nobody?
venividi,
you give us less than 24 hours to answer.
WordPress3.0’s been out for about 2-3 days, and you’re talking about something not working that has never been supported.
Automattic made no effort to make sure things were cool with bbPress before releasing so we’re all going to have to wait until we get more reports in.
Lets not forget that a large number of people wait until the first (if not second) bug fix release is made availible before chaning over.
Patience is needed my friend, just don’t push untested just release software onto a live enviroment and you’ll be fine – and we know you didn’t do that because that would be so silly ;-]
Anybody? Nobody?
The problem made me a strong headache for a long time.
Please ~
I get the idea that bbpress isn’t being actively worked
Nope, it is 
…and that this Mat individual wants to abandon this project
Nope. Matt wants to convert it to a WordPress plugin.
Is this the person who made wordpress really great?
He’s one of the 500+ people that have contributed to WordPress.
Is this a good reason not to continue using bbpress? Is bbpress going to die out if Mat doesn’t work on it?
If bbPress works for you, then use it
If it doesn’t, then don’t.
bbpress is open source software, it’s not going to die. As long as you’re ok with a minimum year between releases, and a project lead who refuses to answer any questions or pass on any information (and most people are) then you’re fine with bbpress.
I wanted to use bbpress because I thought it was really simple to use and it was easy to integrate with wordpress. I’ve been looking at some posts recently and I get the idea that bbpress isn’t being actively worked on and that this Mat individual wants to abandon this project (?)
Is this the person who made wordpress really great?
Is this a good reason not to continue using bbpress? Is bbpress going to die out if Mat doesn’t work on it?
i understand these may be silly questions, but I am not trying to make a joke of things
Thanks, thats really helpful.
You could definately do this, though it’s not overly easy, it is relatively straightforward.
You’ve 3 options:
1) Edit the CSS to attempt to display things the way you want.
In theory it’s good, in practice it’d be a pain (imo).
2) Edit the theme file to put categories into their own DIV and then style them into two columns via CSS.
Probably the easiest without hacking any real PHP.
3) Write your own query on the database and output hte code exactly as you want it.
Tricky, mostly as we’ve no documentation or examples, but it’s definately possible if you know your way around PHP (and any cusotm wordpress theming experience would be helpful)
Basically though, you’ll have to code it and you’re somewhat on your own there, but we can try and help out if you hit a road block.
Deep integration is when you include wp-load.php in your bb-config.php, so that you have access to WordPress functions (like get_sidebar(), get_header()) in bbPress. It’s not recommended, and it’s not an official bbPress term by any means. There are just several different types of integration and calling this one “deep” helps keep things straight.
I’ve done something very similar using separate (but user integrated) installs of WordPress and bbPress.
Here’s the blog:
http://www.weddingbee.com/
Here are the boards:
http://boards.weddingbee.com/
And here is a support forum:
http://support.weddingbee.com/
You don’t need to add an extra column to restrict support access – you can use Roles and “Hidden Forums” to pull that off.
https://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/hidden-forums/
I’m actually using 7 separate bbPress installs for that site, along with two WordPress installs and some custom code. Just follow the instructions on integrating users between WordPress and bbPress, and wash and repeat for each additional bbPress install.
Good luck!
I am designing a website which will utilize WordPress for a blog and bbPress for its forums (both linked). I would also like to run ticket-based support using bbPress. My first thought was to create a custom theme for bbPress which would achieve this but I do not know if this would be possible.
Requirements:
– Website structure would need to be as follows:
/blog/
/forums/
/support/
– All three of these would share the same users.
– Ideally an additional column would be required in the user database to specify if a user is allowed to open a support ticket (limited to customers).
Can this be achieved with one single installation of “bbPress”? I was thinking about giving all forums a parent forum “Forums” and all support forums “Tickets”, and then somehow mounting one to “/forums/” and the other to “/support/”.
If not, how would I go about doing this?
Kind regards,
Lea Hayes
Its amazing that only four people are behind WordPress, plus some new ones now. To me, it seems like WordPress is a company on the level of Apple. I imagined there would be hundreds of employes behind WordPress. They really give the impression of being the most professional people in the business of cloud-computing.
Welcome to open source software development Marius 
What you are saying is *sort of* true. There have only been 4 main code “committers” in recent years but there are actually a lot more people involved in making WordPress what it is.
WordPress is “owned” by a company called Automattic. Everything they produce is open source and therefore free to use and/or modify. It’s not a huge company but it’s not tiny either. They are comprised of 40+ developers, designers, engineers, etc who all work from their homes spread around the globe. They make their money mostly from WordPress.com which sells WordPress hosting as a service.
The beauty of it, since it’s all open source, if you decided you wanted to become a developer and you came up with a great idea for a new feature and coded it up as a plugin – Automattic might decide that they want to incorporate it as a core feature and implement YOUR code. This is exactly how the new menu feature in 3.0 came about. People had been making plugins that worked in a similar fashion for years.
Aw Kevin dear, thanks for understanding me lol.
This speech we talk about, was held last month, has there been any development?
Its amazing that only four people are behind WordPress, plus some new ones now. To me, it seems like WordPress is a company on the level of Apple. I imagined there would be hundreds of employes behind WordPress. They really give the impression of being the most professional people in the business of cloud-computing.
Same goes for BBpress. And to learn that most of this business is handled on forums and chatrooms is almost near the point of being unbelievable.
I imagined huge office landscapes, designer glasses, modern art on the walls, a brass mailbox full of offers to buy the company.
To learn that what we say on these forums, actually gets noticed by the makers is a huge privilage though. That never happens on places like Apple.com. Imagine Steve Jobs going, on the launch of iPhone 4: “So this guy Marius on the forums, really gave us a hard time about this the other day, so we decided….”
*Obviously* bbPress is about working with WordPress, so those complaining about it becoming a plugin really need to get over yourselves. bbPress wasn’t made to cater whatever bizarre whim you wanted it to, it was made to provide a forum that functions with WordPress. A plugin works great for that.
You’re totally wrong. Integrating with WordPress was an after-thought. At the beginning, it was made as a standalone software.
Please don’t confuse ‘mu’ and 3.0’s new ‘multi site’.
Any one who has the same problem or who has no such a problem?
I think integration on MU is just broken because mine doesn’t work if you log into the forums and then try to access the blog.
WordPress 3.0 + bbpress 1.02 : integration works fine.
but,
wordpress 3.0 multisite + bbpress 1.02 : integration doesn’t work.
….
when added the code below in wp-confeg.png
define(‘WP_ALLOW_MULTISITE’, true);
define( ‘MULTISITE’, true );
define( ‘SUBDOMAIN_INSTALL’, false );
$base = ‘/’;
define( ‘DOMAIN_CURRENT_SITE’, ‘myhomepagename.com’ );
define( ‘PATH_CURRENT_SITE’, ‘/’ );
define( ‘SITE_ID_CURRENT_SITE’, 1 );
define( ‘BLOG_ID_CURRENT_SITE’, 1 );
the integration breaks.
What’s the problem, and what’s the solution?
Any help will be appreciated.
Pagal, please describe the problem you’re having in a new topic. It’s not clear what is happening, when it’s happening or what you expect to happen instead. Please start a new topic with that information.
I don’t understand why you people “looking for a lightweight forum” don’t just use Vanilla.
*Obviously* BBpress is about working with WordPress, so those complaining about it becoming a plugin really need to get over yourselves. BBpress wasn’t made to cater whatever bizarre whim you wanted it to, it was made to provide a forum that functions with WordPress. A plugin works great for that.
If you want something else, look elsewhere and stop blaming others for making a poor decision.
@kevinjohngallagher you can’t understand what’s the problem?
I think everything clear in ma last post…
What would you like me to say?
You haven’t told me what’s you’re expecting teh code to do, and what it does wrong instead?
Please, I want to help, but “it takes me to localhost” gives me nothing to work with 
it takes me to local host… and my code was..
<?php
if ( is_user_logged_in() ) {
echo ”;
} else {
echo ‘
<table width=”480″ height=”90″ border=”0″ align=”right” >
<tr>
<td align=”left” >
<form class=”login” method=”post” action=”http://www.mysite.com/forums/bb-login.php”>
<div>
<label> Username
<input name=”user_login” type=”text” id=”quick_user_login” size=”13″ maxlength=”40″ value=”” tabindex=”1″ />
</label>
<label>
Password
<input name=”password” type=”password” id=”quick_password” size=”13″ maxlength=”40″ tabindex=”2″ />
</label>
<input name=”re” type=”hidden” value=”” />
<input type=”hidden” name=”_wp_http_referer” value=”/” />
<input type=”submit” name=”Submit” class=”submit” value=”Log in” tabindex=”4″ />
</div>
<div class=”remember”>
<label>
<input name=”remember” type=”checkbox” id=”quick_remember” value=”1″ tabindex=”3″ />
Remember me
</label>
</div>
</form>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
‘;
};
?>
<?php } ?>
@kevinjohngallagher please did not say this time “write your own code”
Agreed. Thats why I said “Yeah, just copy them from the WP-config file.”.
There have been 4 versions of WordPress since the last version of bbPress Installer was written. Thigns change. Just copy them from the WP-config file.
Also, so you know, bbPress isn’t beilliantly compatible with WPMU. thats why the BuddyPress version of bbPress was/is for. I have no idea how this changes for WP3.0
There isn’t even labels or text boxes for auth_salt, secure_auth, and logged_in_salt in the actual wp-admin/options.php page when you view it from the admin area. There’s a bunch of other options but I’ve looked through them and used Find, but I don’t see them
WordPress Integration Settings for bbPress admin even gives me a direct link to the options page that it says those settings are, but they aren’t there. Here’s what it says for each of the 3 required salts:
“This must match the value of the WordPress setting named “auth_salt” in your WordPress site. Look for the option labeled “auth_salt”.”
“This must match the value of the WordPress setting named “secure_auth_salt” in your WordPress site. Look for the option labeled “secure_auth_salt”.”
“his must match the value of the WordPress setting named “logged_in_salt” in your WordPress site. Look for the option labeled “logged_in_salt”.”
How would I set a meta_key/meta_value pair? Is there an API for it or do I have to run a direct SQL query? A meta_key/meta_value pair is per user, right? Sorry for all the dumb questions, I’ve never programmed a bbPress or WordPress plugin.
If I wanted to make it so people had to register and login through the blog, I would just replace all the login stuff on the forums with a link that takes you to the blog?
No, you could just point the action part of your login/registration form to the WordPress one. That way people could login/register from wherever they want, but your WordPress install does all of the difficult work behind the scenes.
The salts are all in the wp-config file on my blog, but they aren’t showing up in the options.php page in the blog admin
Yeah, just copy them from the WP-config file.
Also, my blog and forums both have different $table_prefixs. Should they both have the same
Nah, thts fine as long as you have changed the bb-config to let it know what the WP user table is called.
Also, WP3.0MU is totally new to us (it’s been out less than 48 hours), so if there are any additional issues you might be the first to find them.
Hmm… I just deleted the forums folder from my hosting site and my local machine, re-unzipped bbPress, renamed it to folder, and uploaded it. Then I got to the install screen and it said there was no bb-config.php, which is correct because I just deleted the whole folder. So I put my database, name, etc in and pressed submit or whatever. It said my information had been saved to bb-config.php successfully. It actually made the bb-config.php file this time. When I clicked the go to step 2 button it said I already have a bbPress installation, so I just tried logging in and stuff and now it works.
I looked in bb-config.php and it didn’t have all the auth stuff filled in, but it still works. I then manually put the auth stuff into bb-config.php, got the plugin for the blog and entered the information in the bbPress admin area but it’s still doing the same thing. If someone logs in from the forums, they aren’t logged in at the site. I’m pretty sure when bb-config.php didn’t have any auth information I was able to log in from the forums and then go to the blog admin area without having to log in (I was originally logged out).
If I wanted to make it so people had to register and login through the blog, I would just replace all the login stuff on the forums with a link that takes you to the blog?
EDIT: Also, in the WordPress Integration Settings in bbPress admin, I have to make the salts match the ones in options.php, but when I go there, I don’t see the salts. The only salt I see is nonce, which isn’t one of the ones that need to match (auth, secure auth, logged in). Maybe that could be the problem? The salts are all in the wp-config file on my blog, but they aren’t showing up in the options.php page in the blog admin.
EDIT 2: Also, my blog and forums both have different $table_prefixs. Should they both have the same?
