[kevinjohngallagher]

are these WP 3 MU sites you are talking about “playing nicely”?

I’ve no idea.

WP3MS and WP2MU were never supported.

It was always suggested that one should use Buddypress if using WPMU.

How that will stand up against myBB, Simple:Press, WP-United and others

As much as it’s not what I want, it will stand up favourably due to being availible as a custom one click install for WordPress.com users. There are also many people that use WordPress that have it installed via sopme form of control panel from their web host, for them a 1 click integration will be massive.

[still giving]

Yah … if I did not care, and if I did not see the potential, I would not bother saying anything.

My position has always been … for a LONG time … a grave disappointment that BBpress was the poor cousin of the Automattic family, kept starved and locked up in the basement.

I know the amazing work of people like _ck_ etc trying to fix things but 100s of wasted hours over the years …. I know the reality too.

Especially for those of us trying to support multi-language communities … which is a whole other bugbear.

• So, excusing my unpaid exhaustion with it all … are these WP 3 MU sites you are talking about “playing nicely”?

BB in BP is a whole other beast and I was interested to read it was going the way of a plugin … which I take to mean it will remain a very minimal device … versus the idea of ‘the community’ forking it as a new stand alone.

• How that will stand up against myBB, Simple:Press, WP-United and others, makes me wonder if it is really the right choice for someone with $10,000,000 to go showing with.

BP looks like a bad rail crash right now and is not for general users who have become accustomed to other standards (… or at least, a good looking train which has been involved in a a bad rail crash. Give it its dues.)

[Gautam Gupta]

Just saw that this is written here in forum improvements section –

bbpress plugin instead of standalone install

[Gautam Gupta]

As I recall it used to a really long time ago, but had the feature taken out or turned off.

That was actually when you yourself add a post and it would get added via AJAX.

If this feature is not currently supported, do you think it can be easily done?

Yup, P2 theme for WordPress also checks for blog/comments updates via AJAX so it should be easy for bbPress too.

[kevinjohngallagher]

How lovely of you to say. Especially after all those lovely things you’ve said about bbPress over on the BuddyPress forum. You are truly too kind.

WP3 and bbPress play really nicely in my experience.

So far, 29*** upgrades to WP3 done, and 4 have had issues above the usual ultra-minor things. Most of those have a bbPress forum attatched, 2 of them use deep integration and there’s a definate hit in loading but it plays real nicely.

There is 1 new issue with Deeply Integrated WP3/bbP1 install, and thats with regisrtaion but: 1) there was a patch by Zaerl on the day this was found and 2) if you’re using a WP/bbP integrated website you should use WP for registration anyway.

***6 of those sites were running either a nightly or RC version anyway.

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To Specifics:

I didn’t ask about BuddyPress because the Original Poster was kind enough to give us the URL in question, so I can see for myself it’s not a BuddyPress issue (i do actually make the effort).

Given that WP3 has been out for a week, and we’ve had very very very few people telling us of integration issues (deep or normal), I’m quietly confident that there are few new integration issues. Previously we’ve had alot more posts in the last 4 WordPress upgrades – even in the first week.

And as for my short question in reply… It’s important information. Its really difficult to give up time and effort to help out here when people can’t actually tell us what’s going on, or gone wrong. You’d be amazed at how simply the really intelligent folks here can solve the most complex of issues (and I’m def not one of them) once given actual information.

If you come on these forums asking for help with a problem, make sure you say:

• bbPress version:
• Are you using default theme:
• WordPress version:
• Are you using default theme:
• Are WP/bbP integrated:
• Are WP/bbP Deep Integrated:
• Using BuddyPress:
• Using WordPressMU:
• Using WordPress3 Multisite:
• Is there an error message:
• What is the error message:
• What PHP version is your server on:
• Did the issue occur as you installed something for the first time:
• Did the issue occur after an upgrade:
• What plugins are you using:
• Are you using a paid for theme that came with special instructions:
• What is the URL:
• Can you include a screenshot along with a description:
• Did you follow any specific tutorial?

99/100 by giving us as much of the information as possible, someone here will be able to help.

Is this correct or a bug?

There is option 3: Human Error!

[still giving]

I read your posts elsewhere Kevin … top marks. You hit the nail right on the head many, many times. And you did not even start on the whole Buddypress angle.

So what is the state of the nation… does WP3 and BBP do anything?

[jomontvm]

I have already installed wordpress mu with bbpress English version. Now I want to have a forum with Arabic interface under the same installation of wordpress mu.

– I want to share data between English and Arabic forums (only want to have different interface – language). Means, I want to show topics or categories created under English, in Arabic forum also. Only change of language must be for the interface.

– I want to share users table between English and Arabic. That is, a user logged in from English should be in logged in state when he go to Arabic forum.

Here are my questions

Should I install Arabic version of bbpress under wordpress mu for the above requirement?

Is there an Arabic version available?

Should I do anything extra for sharing data and users table?

Please suggest me how can I do it.

Thanks

Jomon

[kevinjohngallagher]

Does it work on your development/testing version?

[curtisdroppelman]

Thanks for the quick reply Ash!

I was in a hurry last night and went with an iFrame solution hosted inside the bbPress folder and placed it inside my wordpress theme, that worked pretty well. When I redesign the site I’ll be sure to use this function, it looks awesome!

-Curtis

[cmunns1]

shows up on latest discussion page:

Warning: strtotime() [function.strtotime]: It is not safe to rely on the system’s timezone settings. You are *required* to use the date.timezone setting or the date_default_timezone_set() function. In case you used any of those methods and you are still getting this warning, you most likely misspelled the timezone identifier. We selected ‘America/Los_Angeles’ for ‘PDT/-7.0/DST’ instead in /Library/WebServer/Documents/wordpress/_bbpress/bb-includes/functions.bb-formatting.php on line 327

I also can’t login as keymaster for some reason. Any thoughts on this? Password recovery doesn’t work either.

[_ck_]

Trading insults is not very mature, therefore I think it’s time to close this topic.

pagal, you just have to be flexible, you can’t always get what you want for free, so you either have to adjust and find another way to do it or hire a coder to make what you want.

The fields in the user profile are unfortunately handled in a very inconsistent way, it doesn’t even use the same code on the registration page vs. the profile edit page vs the profile display page which is a symptom of the adhoc nature of how bbpress was built. But I don’t think even wordpress has that ability built in yet.

[kevinjohngallagher]

*Obviously* BBpress is about working with WordPress

…it was made to provide a forum that functions with WordPress

Don’t you love it when people write totally 100% wrong statements and start them with “*Obviously*

If we fork bbpress and make it standalone, that would solve half the world’s problems.

Comedy Gold

[WimTibackx]

I might not have been very clear on that. Foremost I want to fork WordPress and turn it into a fast, modern and elegant cms. At the same time I want to fork WordPress and bbPress to run as plugins on that cms. I just used the backpress name in my post to avoid using WordPress two times.

I’m personally not that interested in a standalone forum, but in a forum that integrates on my normal website easily and a normal website that is modern, fast and easily extendible. The current WP codebase might have the fast-part but it isn’t modern and it isn’t easily extendible (ok, it’s better then phpBB for example but more object oriented code wouldn’t do bad at all).

[curtisdroppelman]

I realize this is old but what if I want to have this same function on my wordpress homepage?

Basically, how do I get the log logged-in.php / login-form.php functions though wordpress to match BBpress?

[_ck_]

I’ve decided this is not something I want to get into. Way too much work for one specific solution and multi-input fields like birthday are going to be very complicated.

The sites you see this on already have full-time programmers while you don’t know how to code at all so you are going to constantly rely on begging for free help from others.

Since you are using WordPress integrated I recommend you just use an existing plugin for it to do this instead.

[Rootside]

I understand the desire to make a WP plugin that is a forum, I can see Matt’s viewpoint on that, but in comparison to bbPress as it stands, it’ll be far from lightweight.

Fair enough, but as you state further down in your post, most if not almost all of that bloat would come from WordPress, no?

In my opinion, a fair comparison would have to be WP/bbPress (deep integration) and WP/forumpluginX.

I accept that there may be better ways to run a forum than to wrap WordPress around it. But other things need to be taken into account, eg how much time would I have to spend to ensure that the forum (or specifically the forum’s header and footer etc.) looks and behaves like the rest of my site? Can I leave a site with a less tech-savvy admin at all, or will I have to maintain everything forever because said admin can’t get his head around dealing with WP AND a forum that “works kind of like WP but not really”? And so on.

Of course, first and foremost the thing needs to run, and run reasonably fast. But this is also a question of priorities.

Sure, many people will not even realise that there’s an issue, or they might simply not give a toss, but for the rest of us it comes down to whether some additional bloat and a more sluggish forum might not be acceptable if we get clean integration and a single backend interface in return.

I think any discussion about bbPress as a plugin should be seen in this context.

[burlesona]

Sorry as I’m sure this has been brought up before, but I couldn’t find a good answer…

Is it possible to create user groups and establish private categories within a bbPress forum? I’m working on setting up a site that will work as a collaboration between 5 different organizations, and ideally I want the forum to work like so:

– – – – – – – – –

General Forums (anyone can see / post, sitewide moderators can moderate)

Org 1 Forums (anyone can see, only org 1 members can post, org1 officers and sitewide moderators can moderate)

Org 1 Officers Forum (only org 1 officers can see / post, sidewide moderators can moderate)

And so on for Organizations 2-5.

– – – – – – – – – –

I have been bashing my head against the wall trying to figure this out for a while, and it is basically what is keeping me from deploying bbPress.

My site is http://www.neohouston.com, which is a heavily customized WordPress site. I would love to use bbPress if I can because of how fast and light it is – but if I can’t effectively segment users then I can’t use it.

Any suggestions, or help?

[Gautam Gupta]

Do you load WordPress’ wp-load.php in bbPress?

[venividi]

Thanks Kevin and burlesona,

It looks that it’s a few days-old problem. But I’ve had a longtime headache since I used multisite.

I was happy to hear that the wordpress 3.0 support multisite, expecting the problem might be solved.

Ok. I well understood.

I only hope that the problem be solved as soon as possible.

Thanks again.

[astaganaga]

Love it

[Gautam Gupta]

Just an update on what’s going on Trac – bbPress 1.0.3 milestone has 3 tickets left (all the tickets have patches and 1 depends on a BackPress ticket), while 1.1 milestone has 4 tickets left (2 have patches, and 2 need patches). There’s also another BackPress ticket that needs to be fixed (which also has a patch). That means that bbPress 1.1 is very near to its release!

How can you help?

1. Checkout a copy of bbPress trunk version via SVN and test it.
2. Test the patches of the open tickets.
3. Contribute patches to the tickets which don’t have one.

What’s new in bbPress 1.1?

1. Email subscriptions
2. Loginless posting
3. Better administration of posts and topics
4. Better search and statistics
5. Bug fixes. Some critical ones are – #1261 (RSS feeds errors), #1146 (faster recount functions), #1150 (undelete topic error).
6. Better tags administration (if #1243 goes in)

Some tickets that missed 1.1 milestone are #960 (better user administration) and #1277 (kakumei cleanup) even though they had patches but could cause errors as they were huge changes and needed more testing. They might get into 1.2 though.

Cross Posted Here on the bbdevel blog – http://bbdevel.wordpress.com/2010/06/22/bbpress-1-point-1-maybe-soon/

[Digitalheavens]

Here my website http://www.digitalheavens.co.uk Ive installed wordpress 3.0 and bbpress. It seems that a member of the website can’t be logged into the website and the forum at the same time? E.G. If a member logs in to see the free products and then goes over to the forum they have to log in again (using the same user name and password) Is this correct or a bug?

[citizenkeith]

Moderators,

I’ve been finding a lot of spam in the plugins directory forum.

http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/wordpress-integration/page/2/#post-5908

http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/live-comment-preview/page/2/#post-5910

http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/wordpress-integration/page/2/#post-5911

I monitor this RSS feed:

http://bbpress.org/plugins/rss/

It’s pretty easy to catch the new spam if you’re monitoring all the Plugin discussion.

[WimTibackx]

Hello Burlesona,

I’ve used vanilla (1.x) before but vanilla 2 was new to me. I’ve just checked it out briefly, but while I think using a framework (like Garden or others) to build a custom website, I don’t like the idea of using a framework to build a sort of webapplication (not sure what it should be called) which can be extended itself. (Then you’re actually building a mini-framework onto a framework)

Although the idea of using the MVC-pattern sounds interesting. It might be usefull for the theme stuff, although it isn’t a “go” yet.

Furthermore there is a difference between Garden and my to be fork of backpress. My fork would function as a basic cms. If you only need a simple website, you could go with my fork + the default included plugins. My blog and forum plugins would be just plugins. Garden however is a framework, it can do nothing on its own. It needs a layer (here : vanilla) on top of it.

As for your integration problems, you could try to integrate vanilla and wordpress untill you find something better?

However, the bbpress forum might not be the best place to have discussions about stepping off bbpress or forking it.

Thanks for the tip,

Wim Tibackx

[burlesona]

Vevendi, I’ve got the same problem.

I don’t have a solution yet. I can get the two sites to appear to integrate (I work through the integration settings and everything proceeds as it is supposed to), but they don’t actually work.

What happens for me is the user database is not synced, but the cookies are at least partially synced, because if I log in to WP then BB doesn’t allow me to click on log-in, and if I log-out of one it logs me out of both.

However, if being logged into BB doesn’t actually give me access to WP-admin, and likewise, being logged into WP causes me not to be able to admin or post on BB – but I can’t click on log-in or register either.

I think Kevin is right – this is going to take a while to sort out. Compatibility between bbPress and WPMU was never easy as pie, and there’s no reason to expect it will suddenly be night-and-day easier with WP3.0.