[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

This is NOT an attempt to knock _ck_ (any more than she meant to diss on Sam), as her points are totally valid and, in fact, I’m a member of ‘If it ain’t broke…’ If you’re ON .9 and everything works and you’re happy, then STAY. If you have needs that can no longer be met by .9, however, you may need to start looking into 1.0. There’s a reason that some people are still on WP 1.5ish releases. It works and they’re happy. There’s nothing wrong with it.

My reasons to use 1.0

1. You haven’t installed bbPress yet, so you don’t have an existing stable site.

2. You don’t actually use a lot of plugins anyway.

3. You can integrate with WP 2.8 and WPMU without having to hack the bbPress cookies (thanks to WP changing things all over the dang place…)

4. The Admin area ‘matches’ WP and, lets face it, pretty is better

5. If you’re going to write new plugins for bb, you may as well write them for the release version since that’s the way it’s going to be.

6. While it is slower, we’re not talking ‘it now takes 3 minutes to load a page’ like some bbs out there. And it’s still faster than WP.

7. Given the speed of servers these days, you may not ever notice the DB queries.

8. No matter how long you spend debugging, you’re never going to find all the bugs until something’s used for real by hundreds of users, so months vs years really doesn’t mean as much as you might think. Now DAYS versus months… Still, until a lot of people get out there and try to use it for weird ways, 1.0 won’t be as well tested as 0.9, but that’s true of any new release of software.

9. RC seems rushed, with a lot of slapped up fixes, but that’s because a group of us were out there breaking things for the rest of you. The major kinks are fixed.

10. Once you bite the bullet, the small upgrade to 1.0.1 (which is inevitable and we all know it) will seem like nothing.

11. You really want to see that download counter MOVE!

Okay, so some of mine are for the amusing side.

I’ve been on the 1.0 train since I started, since at the time you couldn’t do 2.7 WP and 0.9 BB. I’ve never had a major OMG! show stopper problem and I think bbPress is far far better than the old systems I’ve used. Small, simple, easy.

Thanks to Sam and also SO many thanks to _ck_ for her patience with stupid questions

[_ck_]

Actually my warning is geared more towards existing 0.9 users who won’t realize that 1.0 is not a simple upgrade to 0.9 like 0.9 was to 0.8 – 0.9 was just 0.8.4 with a whimsical number bump. Calling this release “1.0 final” gives the impression of well tested and compatible, which it is neither.

Someone who has been happily using 0.9 on an active site with several plugins and tries to upgrade to 1.0 is virtually guaranteed to run into problems. Even worse, if they have not backed up their database, or don’t immediately downgrade, they will lose their ability to roll back to the stable version they had.

Ignoring internet-wide standards for “alpha” vs. “beta” vs “release candidate” labels is a very dangerous thing to do as far as user experience. IMHO 1.0 is currently still at a beta level. Calling it “release candidate” and now “final” is just politics to please some of the least patient yet most vocal people around here.

[_ck_]

500ms on a empty bbPress install hints at NFS

SMF would probably be fastest on your current server as it uses 13 files to generate the front-page vs well over 100 files for bbPress 1.0

[_ck_]

A reminder to those using 0.9 not to upgrade to 1.0 yet as many of my plugins (and others) do not support 1.0. I will not be addressing plugin upgrades until December.

10 reasons why to wait a few months to upgrade to bbPress 1.0

1. Your 0.9 install is stable and the core is secure

2. Roughly half the plugins for 0.9 will not currently work with 1.0

3. Once you upgrade you cannot downgrade due to database changes

4. It does not have significant additional features over 0.9

5. It doesn’t use the proven 0.9 core, major parts have been rewritten for BackPress

6. It’s slower, uses 50% more code when producing the same output as 0.9

7. It uses more database queries per page than 0.9

8. It’s code has only months of debugging vs years for 0.8 + 0.9

9. RC was rushed, some changes were made only days ago and are not well tested

10. Version 1.0.1 will be out in a few days (if not a few hours)

[Martin R.]

The one i found under Downloads: “The latest stable version of bbPress is “Bechet” version 1.0:”

[Martin R.]

Footer tells me: 0.397 seconds – but thats relative. I will change host and server when I publish the board. I just know 4 other boards that are faster on my server right now. So its not exactly beeing about “slow” – Its about making it faster. Perhaps with Caching because my board will have 90% passive readers/guests who can wait a few minutes for updates and should not slow it down.

But thanks. Looks like there arent any tipps or a caching-plugin. To bad, bbPress would be really great.

Firefox/Firebug/Yslow/Pagespeed-Tests:

Punbb: 200ms

Vbulletin: 200ms

Minibb: 300ms

Seoboard: 400ms

BBpress: 500ms

Phpbb: 500ms

Vanilla: 600ms

+-50ms

[chrishajer]

Heh, Sam. It’s been like that since the 0.7 series I think. I’ve only ever had one forum, but it always showed the dropdown I used to fix it but them maintaining the changes across updates became a hassle.

Also, the width of the dropdown was never wide enough, in FF3 (and FF2) at least. Never really tested it. I can’t recall if it was fixable with CSS or if that width was in the template. I think in the template with a width=”xx” value.

Was going to take a screenshot just now, but I realized I took the select out in my installation, so people don’t have to choose, and hardcoded the value into the form. BUT, there is still a dropdown with just one value (if you have just one forum) when you’re logged in as keymaster and you have the option to move the topic to another forum. Probably shouldn’t even show the option to move it to another forum if there’s only one.

Weird that this is just coming up now. I always just thought it was normal.

[Sam Bauers]

To be honest though, I’ve never tried integration across SSL sites, it may not be possible with currently existing tools.

Setting bbPress to also force SSL might do it, but I can’t do any testing right now.

[Jason Giedymin]

WPMU Trunk + bbPress Latest RC + Integration Plugin with:

define(‘FORCE_SSL_LOGIN’, true);

define(‘FORCE_SSL_ADMIN’, true);

Does not work. Setting the values to false (disabling SSL/HTTPS), integration works great. However when it comes to SSL, forget it. I’m going to say it’s impossible.

We need SSL to work across software packages, security is paramount.

Any help from anyone or the devs, let me know.

Again, this is a SSL WPMU install.

[Jason Giedymin]

Running:

WPMU + Latest RC of BBPress, User tables integrated, v1 of Integration Plug (on wp side) installed. Latest RC of bbpress was installed directory fresh but over an existing bbpress 9.x (latest stable) tables.

Tests Passed:

– Logging into each site individually works fine. Can’t log out without errors (understandably as there is a cookie issue see below).

Tests Failed:

– Log into bb-press via https

– Log into wp blog.

– Should go to Admin.

Debug:

– Stepped through to find wp was looking for “wordpress_sec_[long hash string]” cookie. Thinking it was ‘mal formed’ it redirects to the wp login.

Question:

– Why would the “wordpress_sec” cookie not be created by bb_press?

I will be stepping through the bbpress code but wanted to put a heads up in the forums if maybe someone already knows whats going on.

Btw Is there a developer forum?

[lemonade-joe]

Is there a simple way to insert the first post of the topic with an individual command? And then start the loop with the other posts, starting with the second one (as the first post is the question and the following posts are the answers)?

Just to be clear about what I want to achieve. Here is the site I am trying to make work:

http://www.test.rimava.sk/bbpress/topic.php?id=2

I want the first post to have e.g. green background, different question mark icon, while all the other posts remain as they are now.

[michael3185]

I think there’s a missing check for the count..? I put a counter in my frontpage.php to limit the number of recent posts which are displayed;

<?php $recent_count = 0; ?>

<?php if ( $topics || $super_stickies ) : ?>

<h4><?php _e('Recent Posts'); ?></h4>

<table id="latest">

<?php if ( $stickies ) : foreach ( $stickies as $topic ) : ?>

<?php if ($recent_count >= 10) { break; } ?>

<?php $recent_count++; ?>

<tr<?php topic_class(); ?>>

<td><a href="<?php topic_link(); ?>"><?php topic_title(); ?></a><br /><div class="hints"><?php topic_posts(); ?> posts. <?php topic_last_poster(); ?> posted <a href="<?php topic_last_post_link(); ?>"><?php topic_time(); ?></a> ago.</div></td>

</tr>

<?php endforeach; endif; ?>

the $recent_count variable is incremented for each post link, and the loop is jumped out of if it hits 10. No doubt there’s a neater way of doing it, but it works fine. Checking for 1 instead of 10 would do it for you.

[feastoffools]

Looking for a bbPress expert who could help us tie our blog entries to

appear on the forums via Bbsync and fix a couple of bugs on the

forums.

http://www.feastoffools.net/community

••• Troubleshoot and optimise our forums. Right now Dreamhost is forcing us to upgrade our services because they claim our bbpress forums are taking too much of a server hit. Looking for someone to help us optimize our forums.

••• Upgrade to the latest version of Bbpress. Right now we’re at .9

••• Install BBsync

http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/bbsync/

new blog post, this post will be turned into a new topic in your

forums. Replies can be made to the topic. Comments made through the wp

comments form will also be shown as replies to the corresponding

thread. All comments/replies will show up automagically in wordpress,

too.

••• Code Buttons:

http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/bbcode-buttons/

Automatically adds an easy access button toolbar above the post

textarea to allow quick tags in BBcode. This is an enhanced

replacement for the Comment Quicktags plugin. No template editing

required.

Requires the BBcode-Lite plugin (or some other kind of BBcode support).

Some buttons will only appear if the tag is supported (ie. img, center)

••• Upload Image Files / Attachments

http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/bb-attachments/

This may not work with the version of bbpress and wordpress that are

compatible. Right now I’m waiting for bbpress to get to full 1.0 to

upgrade both to WordPress 2.7 and Bbpress 1.0, which my guess will be

in the next 6-8 months, but hopefully sooner.

••• Post Notification

http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/post-notification/

If you have a topic in your favorites and there will be a new post to

this topic it sends you an email. Simply upload and it does its job.

•••• Bb Socialize

Add social network links to form/user profiles.

Allows you to set and display your social media profiles in your

public forum profile. As administrator, you can select which sites

will be supported using simple management panel.

http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/bbsocialize/

– Show quoted text –

••• Search problematic

Also users are complaining about the search function not working well,

is there anyway to troubleshoot this or enhance the search inside the

forums?

best

Fausto Fernos

[deadlyhifi]

just testing RC3 and noticed that my hot tags are all set to 8pt. Anyone else having this issue?

[_ck_]

frooyo, the fact you have to ask how indicates you won’t be able to do it

It will take someone with experience quite a bit of work and testing to accomplish.

It’s not a trivial conversion like some other plugins.

[Rhys Wynne]

Hi all!

I’m upgrading a plugin to use the administration menus, rather than editing within the plugin itself. I have used admin functions before (such as add_action), but for the life of me I can’t figure out why I’m having problems adding it this time around.

Basically, on activation of the following plugin I get a “this plugin has caused a fatal error” (but it is activated), and on deactivation I get “Warning: Cannot modify header information – headers already sent by (output started at /home/britain/public_html/forum/bb-plugins/top-posters-code.php:32) in /home/britain/public_html/forum/bb-includes/pluggable.php on line 232”.

Here is the code

<?php

/*

Plugin Name: Show Top Posters (backup)

Plugin URI: http://www.gospelrhys.co.uk/bbpress-plugin-show-top-posters

Description:  Readers with the most postes are displayed on your bbpress forum, with their names (linked to their website if they provided one). Based on the <a href="http://www.pfadvice.com/wordpress-plugins/show-top-commentators/" target="_blank">Show Top Commenters</a> plugin for WordPress by <a href="http://www.savingadvice.com" target="_blank">Nate Sanden</a>

Version: 1.2

Author: Rhys Wynne

Author URI: http://www.gospelrhys.co.uk

*/



add_action('bb_admin-header.php', 'show_top_posters_admin_page_default');

add_action('bb_admin_menu_generator', 'show_top_posters_add_admin_page');



function show_top_posters_add_admin_page() {

bb_admin_add_submenu(__('Show Top Posters'), 'use_keys', 'show_top_posters_admin_page');

}



function show_top_posters_admin_page_default() {

echo "test";

}



function show_top_posters_admin_page() {

echo "test";

}



function show_top_poster_text() {

echo "test";

}



?>

Any suggestions?

[chrishajer]

You have the latest stable bbPress then, 0.9.0.5? When you log in as keymaster, what version is shown at the bottom of the backend admin screens?

What is your database name and what is the table prefix from your bb_config.php?

[iang]

I want to display a list of all the users on my blog (wbs80.com) and their profile information.

I have been looking at the bbpress code and trying several tests…but unfortunately without success.

My approach is to get the list of profile keys, get the list of users and for each user display the username and profile information. The code segment that I have is:

<?php

require_once (‘../../bb-load.php’);

global $bddb;

$profile_keys = get_profile_info_keys();

//print_r($profile_keys);

$userinfo = $bbdb->get_results(“SELECT * FROM $bbdb->users WHERE user_status = 0 ORDER BY ‘ID'”);

//print_r($userinfo);

foreach ($userinfo as $key) {

$metainfo = $bbdb->get_results(“SELECT * FROM $bbdb->usermeta WHERE user_id = $key->ID”);

// ???

}

?>

I don’t know how to use the “profile_keys” value(s) to access the “metainfo” data structure and extract the data.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[msstenq]

I am using the latest bbpress i belive

and i have showavatar plugin enabled

it told me to put

<?php if(function_exists(‘pws_get_avatar’)) pws_get_avatar(); ?>

in post.php which i did, and the avatars started showing

but the database thing i do not get, i went to mysql admin and the database is their, and its bbph01

[thion]

I’m using “Human Test for bbPress” with RC3 and it’s working perfectly, spam bots has been stopped.

[infected]

Hi!

I´m having a problem, that i can´t reproduce on this forum for example. If i visit my testforum as unregistered user i´m able to click on the members profiles. That´s okay, but in my sidebar 2 links appear, profile and favorites. Is it right, that the favorites link is displayed to unregistered user so that they can watch every users favorites? I don´t think so. Maybe i done something wrong while creatin my own theme… I don´t know.

Here´s a link to my testforum (it´s not finished yet): http://www.test.be-infected.de/forum/

[r-a-y]

Hi Sam,

Thanks for that detailed post. I’ve added this post to my favorites so I can come back to it.

However, at this time, I’m not going to upgrade until bbPress reaches official version 1 status.

I’ve temporarily gotten rid of the warning messages by doing the following:

Line 71 of bbPress 1.o alpha 6:

$_cached_ids = join( ',', array_map( 'intval', (array)$cached_ids ) );

Lines 86-89 of bbPress 1.o alpha 6:

if(!empty($cached_ids)) {

foreach ( $cached_ids as $cached_id )

$this->results[] = $trans[$cached_id];

}

Yeah I know it isn’t ideal as I’m probably not using the latest, optimized build of bbPress, but it gets rid of the warning messages.

[Arturo]

i’ve it with latest rc3 and works without problem

[frooyo]

What’s the best way to prevent spam user account registration?

I’ve tried the “Human Test for bbPress” plug-in but it seems to stop working with 1.0 RC.

Any other plug-ins out there that are a good way to prevent spam user account registeration?

[Sam Bauers]

@r-a-y

OK then, you really need to upgrade.

Here’s how I would do it…

1. De-integrate cookies, clear out all cookie settings in bbPress/WordPress including hardcoded ones in configs with the exception of you secret keys (BB_AUTH_KEY and friends)
2. Upgrade to the latest Trunk of bbPress
3. Upgrade to the latest release of the bbPress Integration plugin
4. Clear all relevant cookies in your browser
5. Setup integration in WordPress first, go to the admin panel for the plugin – use the settings it gives you to use in your wp-config.php file
6. Setup integration in bbPress second, if the plugin in WordPress tells you to add a special constant to bb-config.php, do that now too. You’ll need to login to bbPress separately at this stage. Only enter settings into the admin, don’t try to add anything back into your bb-config.php except that one line from the WordPress plugin
7. Now you should be good to go again, clear your browser cookies and try various ways to login and logout