[Doug Smith]

Thanks, Stephen. I was just about to update this conversation with the same thing now that I’ve had a chance to look through the code.

I talked with @jjj about this at WordCamp Milwaukee and he suggested creating a Trac ticket for it, which I have done. https://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/2668

[Robkk]

idk havent tryed editing the submit button for certain forms yet

but for profile its

#bbpress-forums #bbp-your-profile fieldset.submit button {
float: right;
}

for reply form its

#bbpress-forums .bbp-reply-form fieldset.bbp-form button {
float: right;
margin-top: -120px;
}

you can try that , other than that try doing what stephen said

You should look up some CSS resources and use your browsers ‘inspector’ to look at how to make CSS changes to your theme, use your favourite search engine to find these.

[Robkk]

Do you know how I would go about hiding the “Create New Topic” form at the bottom of the page, now that I’ve made the link at the top to go to the “New Topic” standalone page?

copy content-single-forum.php into your bbpress folder
and delete any instance that say <?php bbp_get_template_part( 'form', 'topic' ); ?>

that should do it

[Robkk]

@marximusmg yeah this is pretty easy

copy content-single-topic into your bbpress folder in your child theme.

then just move <?php bbp_get_template_part( 'form', 'reply' ); ?>

just below <?php bbp_get_template_part( 'content', 'single-topic-lead' ); ?>

[MilliR]

Where to copy the files?

Should I copy the files in /mytheme/bbpress or in /mytheme/ itself? Currently, I have copied all files to /mytheme/bbpress and facing same issue.

[rzelnik]

So I tried a different e-mail configuration plugin: WP SMTP. The forum post notification emails are now delivered well. It’s strange that in the e-mail header there is the right sender address, while in the captured log there is still the default wordpress noreply@domain address, see here:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9349232/bbpress-email-testing/wp-mail-log-wp-smtp-forum-post.txt

Anyway, it is working well for me now.

[Stephen Edgar]

Favourites are not currently supported when importing from bbPress 1.2.

[Stephen Edgar]

Go to bbPress settings and uncheck the checkbox to include the ‘forum prefix’

[rzelnik]

Thank you Stephen for your answer. You are right with the BCC, it works as described. However, something causes that in the forum post notifications the “From” is set back to the default <noreply@domain.com>, although it is set to different/custom address by the WP Mail SMTP plugin. Here are two e-mail logs captured by the WP Mail Log plugin:

1. Forum post, e-mail notification sent to subscribed user(s):
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9349232/bbpress-email-testing/wp-mail-log-forum-post.txt

2. BuddyPress Friend request sent to the requested user:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9349232/bbpress-email-testing/wp-mail-log-friend-request.txt

Both messages are sent from the same installation with the same configuration. You can see that the friend request has “From” address set to neodpovedaj@tvorivo.sk (the desired address), while the forum post notification has “From” set to noreply@forum-vyvoj.tvorivo.sk (which is wrong).

My web hosting service blocks the PHP mails sent from unknown addresses, so that’s the reason why the e-mails are not delivered. I will try if it works with some other E-mail/SMTP configuration plugins.

[Stephen Edgar]

This is most likely an issue with IIS Rewrite Module not being configured correctly rather than a bbPress issue.

If you plan on deploying this site to an IIS server (e.g. Azure) then I’d look to fixing the IIS Rewrites, if you are looking to host this site on a typical ‘Linux’ server using Apache or Nginx I’d look to swapping your local virtual server infrastructure to match that of your chosen host provider.

[Stephen Edgar]

bbPress will use that forum.php file as a wrapper template for all of bbPress pages and that is most likely what the issue is.

I’d suggest if you need a wrapper template to work with your theme you copy the contents of your themes page.php to a file named bbpress.php.

Then copy any bbPress templates you want to customize to your themes folder.

See these for more info on copying bbPress templates and child themes:

Functions files and child themes – explained !

https://codex.bbpress.org/theme-compatibility/

[Stephen Edgar]

See https://codex.bbpress.org/moderation-and-blacklisting/

And if you are looking for either registration or topic/reply captch check out the plugins available as there are a few that do registration and at least one for captcha topics/replies:

Plugins

[Stephen Edgar]

Much of what happens when the ‘moderation’ is triggered from comment moderation has not been added to bbPress until the code I’ve added recently.

If your comfortable with PHP you could take a look at what I have thus far in the following tickets:

This first one handles post of what is coming for moderation:
https://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/2645

This second one is for the template to notify the user that there topic/reply is pending moderation, I haven’t started on this due to needing to implement everything in the above #2645 first, now that I got most of the code finished for that yesterday I plan on looking at this in the next few days.

https://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/2589

Keep an eye on those tickets and that should give some hints of what is happening.

[Stephen Edgar]

Emails previous to bbPress 2.5.4 were sent out out to each recipient email individually (one email per user), since bbPress 2.5.4 we now only send a single email with all the recipients as BCC (Blind Carbon Copy) and all emails are sent using as you state a default email address of noreply@domain.tld.

bbPress also works fine to send emails with many of the WordPress mail plugins and should work as we are using WordPress’ wpmail function to send them.

[Stephen Edgar]

As to the details of a project for what UI/UX changes are install for bbPress we will continue to flesh these out and post something when we think we have both the goals of these projects and resource and requirements to help contribute ready to go at the same time.

Much of all this is core to the feedback we received from the survey and just a bit more time for us to get our ducks in a row is in order to get these up and running, but they are important to get up and running 🙂

I haven’t looked at HipChat except for a quick glance now and maybe this is something WordPress may look at in the future.

It’s been a while since one of ‘these’ conversations has occurred here on bbPress.org so it’s been fun and I do look forward to hoping we can find an area that you’d be willing to donate some of your time to help out the project. 🙂

[Stephen Edgar]

See https://codex.bbpress.org/moderation-and-blacklisting/

The above document outlines the different behaviours between adding the ‘bad word’ to the ‘blacklist’ or ‘comment moderation’ sections and what the users see, in the next release of bbPress there will be a notice if the ‘bad word’ was added in ‘comment moderation’ and the user will know that there submission is pending moderation, the blacklist behaviour will not be changing.

[Stephen Edgar]

That ‘warning system’ will remain plugin territory for a while even though I have a specific use case that this is important for it, it will still remain that way for a while, just because the functionality CAN be performed does not explicitly mean that it should be included with bbPress core.

As I mentioned above ‘Featured Plugins’ will most likely evolve to become a more refined list and the power and flexibility of bbPress allows us to do this without forcing/giving every user the ‘kitchen sink’ just because we can.

“bbPress is forum software, made the WordPress way.” and just like WordPress’ philosophy we are making “Decisions, Not Options”. And for example this decision extends to user profile custom fields, if you want these for post authors in WordPress, you look to a custom function or plugin, bbPress is the same, a custom function or a plugin.

bbPress utilizes WordPress Template Hierarchy to allow sites, theme authors and plugin developers to make amazing forum sites powered by bbPress and simply creating a set of pages that work with all the themes out there is not a one size fits all, some themes use tables, some divs, some unordered lists, responsive, non responsive, the combinations are endless and as said we try our best to ensure template compatability but removing the flexability just to limit designers and developers to no longer have these options available to them is something I doubt we will change for quite a while. We would like to include an additional set of default templates in bbPress, but that’s another project we just have not got to yet, bbPress already fully supports numerous templates though currently it only ships with one set.

I come from a phpBB background and have spend many weeks in ‘other’ forums databases whilst supporting the ~25 importers included with bbPress, the current way the WordPress database schema is structured is partially a limitation on what options we have available to us and still keep bbPress light and compact without adding new tables to the database.

[Jimi Wikman]

@robin-w I will happily assist with graphic design, UX and frontend code when time permits. Not sure what you need though, but I could start with making some design suggestion for BBPress itself and something about the documentation to make it more accessible?

I also have some suggestions for the website itself if that would be of interest, but I need to understand more about the BG’s you have first and also familiarize myself better with both the websites structure and the WordPress “way” before I want to attempt that. No need to make a flashy design if it does not improve anything or goes against the standard process. Worse yet if it does not focus on your business goals and make a mess of things 🙂

@netweb I look forward to your arrival on Github. I think it’s a nice move 🙂

I am all for communication between developers, in fact I would say its a requirement for managing a development project like this with developers all over the world. I would not use IRC though, I would use something like HipChat (especially integrated in Jira and confluence so I get SVN information, ticket escalation and new documentation notices among other things). HipChat is free and it’s extendable with WordPress, Twitter, Github and more.

[Stephen Edgar]

Speaking of IRC #bbPress on Freenode 😉 Details here: https://codex.bbpress.org/participate-and-contribute/, that said I see where you are coming from though I am one who thinks this is a good thing, being able to ‘chat’ with developers is a very good thing, everything is logged for openness and transparency and everything is backed by tickets and tracing in Trac.

Onto participation, bbPress will has a presence on GitHub https://github.com/bbpress and very shortly we will have our code base synchronized there and how we utilize GitHub for participation will be no doubt an evolving thing, first we’ll get the code sync’d and then look to see how that goes and go from there.

[Jimi Wikman]

Of what I have seen BBPress is a tight ship when it comes to code quality and extensibility, so I have no doubt that the code is outstanding in every way. That is also one of the reasons I think it’s a shame not more people are using BBPress.

I understand the reasons behind using Trac and trust me I have been in the same situation many times 🙂 I do think it’s important not to accept a standard because its a standard, especially not one that could be improved upon. I know that it’s difficult to push for a change in WordPress, but if the tools don’t improve the workflow and encourage participation, then it should be replaced in my opinion.

Still, it’s not my call but I know some very skilled people that are discouraged from helping out with WordPress because of the lacking tools and the feeling of being back on early 2000 when they see meetings taking place on IRC 🙂

[Jimi Wikman]

@netweb I appreciate the long list of answers and I like what you post 🙂

For the warning system you can see it in action on IPB and it’s basically a system that allow for moderators to issue a warning for bad behavior. This can be accompanied by a temporary ban, forced into moderation or an outright permanent ban.

User warning system allows custom sanctions

When troublesome users make themselves a nuicance, IP.Board provides a range of tools to help staff deal with the situation. The user warning system enables sanctions to be issued, ranging from a simple message sent to the user, right up to an outright permanent ban. Other options include a temporary suspension, or putting the user in the moderation queue, requiring all of their topics & posts to be approved by staff before they’re shown.

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Is it really so difficult to make it so BBPress create pages for all areas of the forum? Rather than using a template each area have its own page and can take advantage of all the features of a page? That way it would never be a problem to setup pages to be full width, what sidebars to add on the forum index or inside a forum, or even a thread?

I am not familiar with the code, but if such a thing could be done, then that problem would no longer exist?

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Custom fields should not be something you ask the users to go inet functions.php to fix, that is way to complicated for the majority of the users 🙂

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Post and topic indicators, have you talked to other forum developers like IPB and VBulletin about how they have solved this? I mean IPB have forums with tens of million topics and tens of thousands of users that are all working well even with this turned on?

[ttmt]

Hi all

Can anyone recommend a profanity filter plugin for bbPress.

I DON’T want to moderated every post

I was thinking if the post contained a profanity (pre determined in a list for example)
then the post would be held for moderation or the word would just be removed and the post posted.

The wordpress built in Comment Moderation would be fine but there is no message when I word is used and the post isn’t posted.

How does a user know the post is being moderated if there is no message.

[Stephen Edgar]

Breadcrumbs are now implemented in the docs, both breadcrumbs and in page navigation, this will be added to all the docs as each is updated 😉

e.g. https://codex.bbpress.org/participate-and-contribute/

From a technical perspective bbPress is highly admired and often receives kudo’s for the actual code documentation so we are part way there. 🙂

I haven’t used many systems but Trac did indeed take a while to wrap my head around.

One of the benefits of being a ‘sister project’ of WordPress is we follow and adhere to many of the same principles as WordPress in both code and the tools we use so much of what is listed in the WordPress Core handbook is identical to bbPress so resources such as there handbook are also relevant to bbPress, we just need to link and/or copy/paste this content for our own purposes.
https://make.wordpress.org/core/handbook/

[Stephen Edgar]

There’s some nice feedback up there, thanks 🙂

.WYSIWYG for input field. I know there is a plugin for it, but it should be in core and you should have the option to turn on and off in admin.

With the new TinyMCE added in WordPress 3.9 and further improvements coming in WordPress 4.0 I am keeping an eye on this and due to several incompatibilities we had when we previously had this as a bbPress option there is a bit of work to be done here to not make it a crappy experience if we do add it back as a bbPress option.

.Organisation for forums. Forum grouping has been a standard since 1999.

Yes 😉

.Topic and forum indicators for new topics. Finding new topics should be at a glance.

There are a couple of plugins that do this, you can see the list here https://codex.bbpress.org/feature-plugins-tracking/. One of the issues with this feature is for larger sites is WordPress’ database performance and is one of the reasons we haven’t gone down this road yet, once a plugin can do this without crippling larger sites we would definately take a closer look.

.Moderation should be available for all forums individually and on a board basis.

This will be in bbPress 2.6 https://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/459

.Permission masks per usergroup to control who can read, reply and post in different forums.

Once the previous ‘Forum Moderation’ is shipped as part of bbPress 2.6 we can look to extend that functionality further to encompass this.

.Content approval for new posts and to take individual posts offline for review.

This is also coming in bbPress 2.6, see https://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/2645

.Warning system for handling member mayhem.

Not sure what this would entail, I get what your saying, I suppose the current way to do things is block/ban the user though you are suggesting there should be a way to handle/have some way/form of communicating with said user. (See private messages below)

.Report center where moderators and admins can handle reported threads/posts/members.

This is mostly also handled as part of https://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/2645

.Private messages should not require Buddypress. It should be in BBPress.

I’m not 100% sold on this idea that bbPress should include this, with that said though, as per above a way to ‘communicate’ in some form either with the moderators (or in this use case other users) I have an idea for this, how exactly it would implemented I’m not sure of just yet but the idea is there, just need to get some time to give it a try and see what happens 😉

.Custom Profile Fields should not requires Buddypress…

Custom profile fields do not require BuddyPress, bbPress 100% fully supports custom profile fields as part of WordPress ‘Custom Profile Fields’.

https://codex.wordpress.org/Plugin_API/Filter_Reference/user_contactmethods
https://gist.github.com/ntwb/c70caf5a0aa9d3062a6d

.Notifications should not require Buddypress…

I think I am with you here…

.Buttons to take actions at the top of the thread and post is also standard since 2003.

The following ticket covers half of this, firstly for accessibility issue, most likely this will extend to include links.

.Out of the box functionality so there is no need to create additional pages like bbpress.php to actually make things look the way you are.

This is near impossible, with the ~2,000+ themes in WordPress’ theme repo we cannot support this many themes yet alone when we start counting the number of commercial themes available. We do our best to have template compatibility with as many themes as we can and think we work ‘out of the box’ on more themes than we don’t.

[Jimi Wikman]

It’s the same issue with all forum software, and blogging software for that matter.

In my experience most people do not want a minimalistic forum and that is why you will find thousands upon thousands of people asking which forum can integrate with WordPress. Check any forum and you will find hundreds of people looking for ways to integrate that forum software into their wordpress.

The ones that use BBPress are the ones that are content with what comes out of the box and I would say we are a very large minority!

With the decline in forum usage in the last 5-10 years I would say that functionality is what makes forums stay alive. If you look at IPB and VBulletin they are still the most used forum software despite the fact that they cost money.

The reason for that is the features that can satisfy every need a user could possibly have. Its constantly being developed and has many large modifications from a core group of dedicated developers.

I think that with some modifications to the core so that the basic functionality can easily be added, perhaps by adding a plugin storage with key plugins that can be added or removed as the user need it. I don’t think regular users will spend time looking for a BBPress plugin to give new post indicators and go through the hassle of installing Buddypress for more functionality. Instead I believe in the setup that Buddypress have with core modules you can turn on or off as you need them.

I DO believe that BBPress have a great potential to be one of the largest and most used forum software in the world. It has a great integration with WordPress. It has lots of features and a strong community of plugin developers. And it’s very fast.

I just think it need a lower learning curve and a more approachable attitude 🙂