> I can’t see a good reason why I should spend
> money to upgrade because it’s not something that I can do.
bbPress == Free Software.
And actually, spending money when you can’t do something yourself is pretty much how it works. If I can’t rebuild the engine on my car, I pay someone to do it. I don’t think anyone was suggesting you spend more money: upgrading to the latest release is good advice when the software is in BETA. It makes troubleshooting things easier to know you have the latest release. In this case though, I don’t think upgrading will have any effect on this problem. It can be solved with CSS, not new functions or bug fixes from the latest bbPress.
I can live without integration but it would be nice to have shared header and sidebar code. I just wanted to log my observation in case someone else had the same problem.
I imagine with all the new focus on forum software these issues will eventually get mowed down.
It sounds vaguely to me like a timeout issue, where something in the ajax is waiting for a response from the server.
It would probably take more debugging time that it’s worth, you’d have to watch requests in realtime either from your side through a firewall or from the server side logs (ie. tail).
I haven’t kept up with the ajax changes in wordpress since 2.1 so I have no idea what’s going on there – wish I could be more help. Ajax is usually the first thing I gut out of wordpress (and bbpress).
Sounds like you have the database name in there incorrectly. If WordPress is working, then you just need to enter the exact same details in the bbPress config.php for the database.
I have reverted to straight BBpress. Topic page loads went from 4-6s back to 200ms. The js components, for reasons I do not understand, load much more slowly with a full wp include.
You should always evaluate the “need” to run WP with BB at the same time. I don’t mean shared login and common cookies which is simple integration, but instead having bbpress load all of wordpress for every page page. That’s a HUGE number of files and mysql calls being generated for every page, multiplied by the number of plugins you have with their own mysql stored settings.
Many times there are ways around loading both at the same time with a few tricks and plugins. If you are on a shared/vps host that’s giving you limited resources you may find streamlining absolutely necessary to deal with any bursts in traffic.
I just completed a WP/BB integration and have noticed a speed decrease.
According to Firebug, most of the delay is in the downloading of the .js ajax components.
The other thing I noticed is gmt_offset no longer seems to work- the time displayed is always GMT.
My bbPress install is integrated with my WordPress install and they serve members of my orchestra. Both the WP-part as the bbPress-part are only accessible for registered users. However we have a few kinds of users: substitutes (users that fill in vacancies temporarily), aspiring members (users that want to become member but who haven’t auditioned yet) en members.
In bbPress I want to block the substitutes and give the aspiring members an inactive role. However, it doesn’t work. When I edit someone’s profile and set his role to blocked or inactive and click edit profile, nothing’s changed.
I’m using bbPress 0.8.3.1.
Does this have any effect on the speed wp pages are loaded? When I include this line the pages take about four times as long to load. When I remove it, they go back to normal. Anyway to avoid this drastic slowdown?
Sure this “upgrade” is not for current functionality. To make this function clear it would be useful to have a working example in the default template 
there are so many unused functions in the include map, why is this unused function included in the default template (makes no sense to me)
@fel64, believe me I know the bbpress files maybe a little too much, hehe…
I’m not sure what’s going on but it’s probably a bug. It’ll be best if you report exactly what you did on https://trac.bbpress.org/.
In plain english it essentially replaces the need for things like “Sticky:” to be hard coded into templates. Long overdue but at least it got put in there finally.
However when making templates for backwards compatibility, you’d have to detect if that function exists before relying on it.
The only themes I’ve seen that uses it already outside of the built-in default is “K2 for bbPress” (and now my “FutureKind”).
It allows tricks like I’ve done to replace “sticky” with a post-it-note-like yellow rectangle. But it also could be filtered via plugin to change it to a little graphic icon, etc. which was impossible before the function existed.
Thanks very much for the kind words.
WordPressl, I mock up a few different design options in PhotoShop and when I’m happy there I move to the code. Since this was my first exposure to bbpress I ended up iterating between PS and the code a lot as I got to understand bbpress better. The challenge was to keep the flavor of the blog, but still make it clear to the user that they are somewhere different.
The mechanics of the template are similar to the default theme. The different look is achieved mostly through the CSS stylesheet. One major change to the layout is to add a floating div for the sidebar on the left. All the rollovers are CSS. I do the tabs simply in php by checking which forum the user is in and displaying the tab bar appropriately. Most of the other changes are actually about hiding some of the power of bbpress.
I’m glad the “tabs” resonate. I had a full working site in beta without them, but just wasn’t happy. The breadcrumb is a little subtle (particularly for folks who are new to a forum), and with only 4 forums and no sub-forums seems like overkill. But without the breadcrumb the user is lost once they’re in one of the forums or topics. The tab solves that and makes it easy to get to any forum from almost everywhere.
One of the best WP + bbPress designs I have seen outside of 9rules. Excellent Lookfab!
I second that design. I think it looks awesome and I would’ve never thought it was bbpress, but a custom design.
Do you have any tips on how you came about redesigning the template?
Thanks!
this what I did, I can’t see something related to the bbpress main files.
Actually the value of the function is empty..
Okay I have created a new plugin “Human Test” which will do some tests during registration to try to slow down the bots.
Eventually will do more tricky things like captcha and variable math but for version 0.01 it simply asks what the answer to 2+2 is.
I need to know if this still works with older versions and weird themes:
http://ckon.wordpress.com/files/2008/01/human-test.txt
Awaiting inclusion in the bbPress plugin depository for newer versions.
I just noticed that over the past few months there are at least 50 fake signups on bbShowcase (out of 250).
Has anyone made a captcha or turing test plugin for the bbPress signup yet? I can’t seem to find one.
Thanks for the background Sam. For a moment I panicked about the cookie hash vulnerability as I have legacy WP 2.1 (and bbpress 0.81) installs that are too customized to upgrade (I hack security fixes in manually) but then I read this:
*If* an attacker can gain read access to the wp_user table, for example due to a publicly visible backup or SQL injection vulnerability, a valid cookie can be generated for any account.
You’ve got bigger problems if an attacker can do a SQL injection or has access to your mysql backup. But I can definitely understand why they replaced it. Who the heck figures these vulnerabilities out though, wow.
Since bbShowcase is stand alone bbPress (for now) I’ll give the upgrade another shot later and try to understand what’s going on with the cookies/login.
I take it that 0.8.3.1 doesn’t use the new cookies though? At some point you might need to release 1075 as 0.8.3.5 or something like that?
@ fel64
BackPress is already a separate repository which is linked to externally within the bbPress trunk.
For interests sake the BackPress repository is here:
http://svn.automattic.com/backpress
BackPress has no separate Trac though.
@ _ck_
I suggest you try a new test install of both bbPress and WordPress integrated to see the way the auth and secrets are supposed to match up in a “clean” environment. You should be able to adjust things in your existing installation as a result.
XML-RPC sounds fairly interesting; I’d like to see what you’ll do with it apart from pingbacks. Content aggregation sounds good too. Is there anything you can say about backPress, though? Do you have any idea for when you’ll maybe be splitting it into BackPress and bbPress?
(why does dev use a 1990’s-style mailing list for it’s own *forum* software?)
Because while forum software is a communication medium it’s not necessarily the right one for development talk. But you’ve brought it up many times now; maybe time to give it a rest?
Sam, I think this should be made sticky. For a while, the conventional wisdom was to tell people to grab the latest trunk to fix the underscore plugin issue and the mysqli issue, but that’s no longer true. There is no good reason for a non-developer to use trunk at this point, I don’t think. Is the best advice for people who just want to install a working version of bbPress to use r980, as you posted about a month ago, or has that advice changed?
Thanks,
Chris
