bbPress v. 9.0.1 seems to choke on this–hang ups and crashes….
This would not impact anything other than bbPress, it’s just a question of choosing one methodology to support pretty URLs.
MultiViews could still be enabled on the server, it’s just a question of whether bbPress uses it or not.
Mod_Rewrite is better for a couple of reasons. For a start it is better supported, and it is also a lot more flexible. We are thinking about running all requests through a single page (index.php) just like WordPress. This is called a front controller, and is not as easily achieved with MultiViews.
There is also the desire to reduce the amount of support traffic around this topic and standardising on one approach may help that.
I have wp and bbpress integrated, fresh installation.
To use avatars is it better to use a wordpress plugin? I tried avator upload, but no avators, nor upload links in profiles. Admin tab is there.
I’d like to be able to use the private message thing, will it work with the 2 integrated?
Thanks.
Can you clarify the impact of disabling MultiViews? Will this impact only bbPress content on a site, or do you need it turned off for the whole site?
I like to mix WordPress, bbPress, and plain content for some images, PDF manual downloads, etc., and really need content negotiation/MultiViews supported in directories outside of WP/bbPress.
And why is Mod_Rewrite better than MultiViews for bbPress?
@ blackidlabs
I think a new release of WPMU is imminent. You might want to hold off until it is released, or you can simply follow the same integration steps as for WP2.3 (installing required compatibility plugins)
If you have any issues, then ask here.
I’m putting my money where my mouth is, and donated $50 to _ck_ towards the development of this plugin.
Thanks for starting this _ck_, it will be a welcome plugin addition.
I’m sure that many people have fine justifications for wanting file attachments. It just seems to be coincidence that those people aren’t the ones capable of writing it. No one is telling anyone that their need for it is “wrong”.
Can I suggest that those who want it somehow co-ordinate their efforts and – rather than pointlessly bumping threads like this all the time – you all work out how you can get it happening in a constructive fashion. There are many competent plugin developers around, perhaps you can pool financial resources and hire one to write the plugin. Perhaps if you are in a University you can co-opt a student with the necessary skills to write the plugin for you in exchange for credit. I’m sure that together you work out a creative solution to your problem.
I would love to see this happen, but I don’t think it will be me who writes it. Dealing with file uploads in web apps is hard and boring for me. I spent about 5 years of my life doing it, so whilst I am probably well qualified to take it on, I don’t *want* to right now. It’s not about some geek elitism. Clearly my want is greater than your collective powers of persuasion at this time.
charlesstout’s topic on this issue has a much more positive spin to it, and you’ll notice that _ck_ has jumped in to get something rolling (which is lucky for you guys, she knows what she’s doing). I suggest that if _ck_ gets this happening you all go and drop some money in her donation account or at least send her a card.
HowToGeek: I wonder if that’s really true. I’d like to believe it is, but I wonder if there are really hosts that allow the MultiViews directive in an .htaccess file, but don’t allow mod_rewrite. I’d like to believe it’s true so that MultiViews goes away and bbPress gets proper rewriting via mod_rewrite, the sooner the better. And have bbPress generate the rewrite rules then create or edit the .htaccess file automatically, just like WordPress, while you’re at it.
chrishajer: Ah, sorry. mod_rewrite
timskii: I could have sworn they had it turned off at some point, but maybe I am misremembering. The point is that hosters tend to do stuff like that (often without warning), so as robust a solution as possible would be ideal, naturally.
*I’m a designer, not a coder, so I’m mostly talking out of my ass.
Would anyone be able to assist with testing a conversion script from IP.Board 2.3.4 to bbPress 0.9? I’ve started writing some code myself to handle the switch. It would be great if any other coders would be willing to assist with this too.
The way it will work currently is to generate a ‘ipb2bb.sql’ file that you can pass to mysql to upgrade the database. It will import users, categories, topics and posts. You can ask it to limit it’s import to select categories only instead of all categories.
It’s not fixed, cause most of the posts are unattributed and the rest are attributed to the wrong person. That thread is where it’s most obvious. What happened was that all the users from BBpress were erased and replaced with the users from WP, some of whom have the same names.
Is there a way to manually reassign authorship of posts?
I’m going to switch it now to the blue theme though, thanks for the advice.
My shiny new bbPress forum is trying to send the messages to me when a new member signs up without anything in the To: line. They don’t send because of a missing recipient address, which means they still wind up in my inbox through a different account but I’d like them to send correctly if possible.
I assume I’m just missing a setting somewhere. Where do I set the email address that these messages should be sent to?
We could try to appeal to the mercy of whoever the current plug-in coders are. I’ve seen something at TextDrive where a group would donate some money into a pool for development purposes.
I think it’d be great if they added the “Ideas” feature here at bbPress like they have for WordPress also.
https://wordpress.org/extend/ideas/
Dreamhost does allow mod_rewrite. And technically they do support Multiviews, but as a .htaccess hack.
However. I remember having terrible trouble trying to configure BBPress to use Multiviews, because it appeared to work, but didn’t on certain pages. I ended up manually adding mod_rewrite.
As an aside, in automating anything like this, keep in mind that people like to do strange things with their directories. One of the annoyances of WordPress is that it assumes almost complete control of the layout of all directories below where it is installed.
Hi Sam,
youve been a great help so far. I was just going through the installation of bbpress. Now I have wpmu installed on my server http://www.blackidlabs.com. I wanted to integrate bbpress into it. I guess wpmu is in 2.3.3 stage as of now. So I wanted to ask you, should I go through the wordpress integration option which bbpress gives during the installation?
Thanks
Jyot
I started a conversation about this very topic here: https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/proposed-method-for-file-attachments-and-uploads
I believe in both sides of this argument:
1. Keep bbPress clean. Don’t bloat.
2. Make bbPress extendible. Do create plugins for everything.
That said, I’m all in favor of an image/attachment plugin. Definitely.
To argue that there is not great desire for this simply because it has not been written is like trying to say “living on the moon sucks” just because we haven’t figured out a way to do it yet. I’m sure living on the moon would totally rule ass.
Maybe it’s because I’m not so knowledgeable about wikis, but I really wonder what you are talking about. I totally agree concerning the “simple, fast and elegant”. phpBB is far too complicated for example. But gimme a break please. I don’t need to be told what I need. WordPress is great for news publication, it’s understandable by my not so computer literate community and it even allows to attach documents to posts (albeit not to comments). Now I’m thinking about phase 2, which is the integration of a forum to the blog and the duplication of WordPress posts in a dedicated sub-forum through the bbPost plugin. These guys are scientists who need to communicate AND exchange documents. bbPress appeals to me because of the WordPress integration, BUT I need it to have attachment as a feature. And I don’t have the skills to add this feature. I don’t intend to be demanding. I have an idea what open source development can be. I just don’t want some geek zealot to tell me that my need is wrong just because it breaks his ideal of how his software idol should be…
Try putting this in your bb-config, it should rename those bbPress cookies for you:
$bb->usercookie = 'wordpressuser';
$bb->passcookie = 'wordpresspass';
.
You may also need to adjust the cookie domain and path, but try that first.
I don’t know anything about MU and how integration with bbPress and MU works.
That’s the weird thing, after I effectively stopped it being integrated then it still failed to let me into the admin panel. Even more curious is that although my forum user database still exists, it doesn’t seem that bbPress is now recognising it – even though it’s set to use the same database. All users are displaying as Anonymous or Inactive.
I think I solved why I can’t access the admin panel though… it doesn’t appear that I’m an admin anymore…
I installed bbPress on a directory called /discussions on the root of my hosting account, where I have also installed WordPress 2.5, everything on the installation went ok, but after all been done, the admin login to the dashboard gives me the following message:
You do not have sufficient permissions to access this page.
Any solution?
I for one would appreciate the possibility for registration approval. I’m currently involved in a zero budget project to launch a forum on a sports related website that runs WordPress as CMS, and registration approval seems to become the last thing we need to solve before choosing bbPress (over Vanilla.) In this scenario, a registration approval plugin for bbPress would naturally be very handy. (I don’t think we have skills to make our own plugin.)
For what the approval thing is needed, then? For example, Vanilla discussion forum uses registration approval in a way we would appreciate to copy for our project. The idea of people not registering an account but applying for one would suit our project really well. “Why do you want to join this forum?” is a question we would like people to answer before letting them post anything.
A Finnish online magazine covering ice hockey, Jatkoaika.com, has a forum that has grown into a lively discussion community for over 13,000 registered users without losing its, well, usefulness. It’s not only because of strict moderation of discussions, they require their users to apply for registration as well. Given that the topic is ice hockey (you know, that game with all the tackling and fighting and strong emotions) and most forum users are hockey fans (“We want blood!”) and male (“We want blood!”), we consider that a great role model for this forum project of ours, even though we don’t expect our forum to become as popular (and we are not about ice hockey.)
(In what comes to our project, we might still decide to NOT having approval for registration. There are advantages in also not having that, of course.)
If you are just trying to filter out spam bots, try my Human Test:
https://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/human-test/
Someone would have to explain the need for registration approval to me before I would bother making such a plugin.
