i want upgrade to 1.0, how make this properly from 0905?
@_ck_
I completely agree that alpha/beta labels should be respected.
But it’s been now in development for YEARS and for most users – bbPress simply works.
At some point, you have to just call it “stable”. Why not now?
frooyo, I didn’t say not to use 1.0, I said if people are using 0.9 they should wait a few months to upgrade to 1.0
@jonhiler
I totally understand that _ck_ has done a tremendous amount of work related the to plug-ins.
But her telling people to simply not use the new release causes more damage than harm to the community, no?
Actually my warning is geared more towards existing 0.9 users who won’t realize that 1.0 is not a simple upgrade to 0.9 like 0.9 was to 0.8 – 0.9 was just 0.8.4 with a whimsical number bump. Calling this release “1.0 final” gives the impression of well tested and compatible, which it is neither.
Someone who has been happily using 0.9 on an active site with several plugins and tries to upgrade to 1.0 is virtually guaranteed to run into problems. Even worse, if they have not backed up their database, or don’t immediately downgrade, they will lose their ability to roll back to the stable version they had.
Ignoring internet-wide standards for “alpha” vs. “beta” vs “release candidate” labels is a very dangerous thing to do as far as user experience. IMHO 1.0 is currently still at a beta level. Calling it “release candidate” and now “final” is just politics to please some of the least patient yet most vocal people around here.
Anyone else get hungry for Honey Smacks cereal when they look at the new internal ‘Posts’ icon?
Perhaps Dig’em Frog is secretly bankrolling Automattic and bbPress…
@frooyo – I agree that changing the name to Release Candidate greatly increased community involvement. Marking a release as 1.0 stable seems like a scary way (to me) to increase involvement! But maybe the release will be stable, and my skepticism is unwarranted. Looking forward to seeing how the release goes. 
But can I ask that you please not attack active members of the bbPress community? _ck_ has done more than almost any other volunteer to help extend the power of bbPress. I’ve seen a number of open source projects where someone is told that if they disagree with something, they should shut up and just fork the code. I hope that bbPress doesn’t become one of those sorts of projects.
Good luck with the release Sam!
500ms on a empty bbPress install hints at NFS
SMF would probably be fastest on your current server as it uses 13 files to generate the front-page vs well over 100 files for bbPress 1.0
@jurasiks
In my opinion, of course I can’t speak for Sam, because it was ready.
Also, now that it’s marked as stable 1.0 – more people will be willing to use it.
@_ck_
Everything you describe is a reason TO USE 1.0. The more people who use it, the better it will become because more people will report any noticed issues etc.
Telling everyone to wait a few months will then just cause NO ONE to use it. Then in a few months, the bbPress core is no better than when it was initially released because the community never got involved.
Simply look at how much involvement the community jumped in when Sam changed the name to Release Candidate.
There was more activity in the last few weeks than in probably the last 6 months.
(Also, you’re post smells of so wishes that 0.9 never changed. You can always fork 0.9 and start you’re own forum product. Maybe call it ckPress)
so, why you released 1.0 now?!
A reminder to those using 0.9 not to upgrade to 1.0 yet as many of my plugins (and others) do not support 1.0. I will not be addressing plugin upgrades until December.
10 reasons why to wait a few months to upgrade to bbPress 1.0
1. Your 0.9 install is stable and the core is secure
2. Roughly half the plugins for 0.9 will not currently work with 1.0
3. Once you upgrade you cannot downgrade due to database changes
4. It does not have significant additional features over 0.9
5. It doesn’t use the proven 0.9 core, major parts have been rewritten for BackPress
6. It’s slower, uses 50% more code when producing the same output as 0.9
7. It uses more database queries per page than 0.9
8. It’s code has only months of debugging vs years for 0.8 + 0.9
9. RC was rushed, some changes were made only days ago and are not well tested
10. Version 1.0.1 will be out in a few days (if not a few hours)
Wow, really nice! I was expecting this only in 2010
I’m trying out bbPress, completely clean install, nothing fancy, my own machine with apache 2.2
Installation goes through without any problems, config file gets created, database gets filled.
When I trying to log on first time, the login page redirects me to incorrect location:
“POST /bb/bb-login.php HTTP/1.1” 302 –
“GET /bb/bb/ HTTP/1.1” 404 279
As can be seen, “bb” (the name of installation subdirectory) appears twice.
Lets work around the error by correcting the url manually in the browser:
“GET /bb/ HTTP/1.1” 200 3356
The forum appears to work fine, however attempt to click the “Admin” link (by the only existing, key master user) leads to even more peculiar behavior:
“GET /bb/bb-admin/ HTTP/1.1” 302 –
“GET /bb/ HTTP/1.1” 200 3356
As can be seen, server immediately redirects access back to the starting page (the correct one, unlike the “login” redirect).
Does anybody have any idea what can it be?
The one i found under Downloads: “The latest stable version of bbPress is “Bechet” version 1.0:”
What version of bbPress are you using?
This forum is actually now running 1.0 as well. So if you notice any bugs or glitches here let me know.
@infected
Yep, that’s how it looks. Not pretty, but futctional.
Hi!
Thanks for your great work on 1.0 final.
I also have a question to the tags: If i use the destroy tag button i will be forwared to tag-destroy.php. It looks like this: Screenshot Just a blank page with some words. Is this intended? However the tag was deleted…
Footer tells me: 0.397 seconds – but thats relative. I will change host and server when I publish the board. I just know 4 other boards that are faster on my server right now. So its not exactly beeing about “slow” – Its about making it faster. Perhaps with Caching because my board will have 90% passive readers/guests who can wait a few minutes for updates and should not slow it down.
But thanks. Looks like there arent any tipps or a caching-plugin. To bad, bbPress would be really great.
Firefox/Firebug/Yslow/Pagespeed-Tests:
Punbb: 200ms
Vbulletin: 200ms
Minibb: 300ms
Seoboard: 400ms
BBpress: 500ms
Phpbb: 500ms
Vanilla: 600ms
+-50ms
@arturo84
I’ll email you some info on possibly taking over that translation.
@the_Wish
Normal progression is alpha to beta to RC. We skipped beta to go straight to RC.
Awesome, super easy upgrade from RC3. So 1.0 Beta was skipped and this is a final 1.0 release now?
Plugins seem to keep working too as mentioned in the RC3 compatibility thread.
As for Tags, I can add and delete them on my custom theme.
Now let new Plugins commence, especially something to split/merge topics *pray*.
Congratulations to the Dev Team, you rock!
@Sam
thanks, i’m waiting for the pot.
how can I do to upload it in the repo? I can have access? There are other projects for bbpress Italian “under constructions” for years and I want start my own with my other project BP IT and WPMU IT, so if is possible i want upload the files to maintain the translation update.
thanks for the reply.
