[michael3185]

Just my tuppence worth, but as I said elsewhere, I’ve taken _ck_’s advice and stuck with 0.9. My forum needs aren’t very demanding, I have all the plugins I need and they work fine, and I don’t use WordPress so integration isn’t an issue. I have enquiries from others who want sites and forums building, but static sites rather than blogs. I can use my DTP package and bbPress 0.9 to do everything very quickly, and have excellent stability from both.

I also agree with _ck_’s points about core vs. plugins. From what I can gather, the original idea was to have a fast, secure, and plugin extensible system. Even as a user rather than a developer that makes a lot of sense to me. It means the core quickly becomes more and more stable, and anyone is free to develop whatever they want to hook into it. Brilliant. But putting various functions into the core means that any changes have to be redone by Sam et. al. and re-uploaded, hacked in the core by users, or redeveloped by hooking in a plugin to change the functionality. As everyone has differing needs and opinions, plugins for anything but basic core functions leave open far more options. Anything which is not essential to all users is not a core function. Gravatars, for example, are not required or even wanted by many users.

As to people remembering old versions with fondness, but having moved on with each bleeding edge version, I’d suggest that it’s only those who keep moving on who voice their opinions most in these forums. There are huge numbers of users who’ve built forums with very old packages of all kinds, and when they build new ones they use the old software too. I think it’s important that those who love bleeding edge, along with the challenges and time consuming re-uploading and fiddling around, don’t forget that many people are perfectly happy with what works and see no need to keep reinventing the wheel. After all, how much better really, do all these new ideas and functions appearing all over the web make life? This is probably a point for a philosophical forum, but worth mentioning I think. We seem to spend so much time redoing and redoing, that often purpose is lost in the background noise of being so busy changing everything. We live in a, “Yippee, it’s new!” culture, where anything which doesn’t titillate the mind is ditched for whatever’s next.

New functionality is great if it’s genuinely useful, but I’m glad 0.9.0.5 exists and works so well, and the occasional security update will do fine. Incidentally, I’d quite like to see a separate 0.9 forum. It would save 0.9 users having to wade through all the 1.0 questions and allow us to quickly see what’s relevant.

[_ck_]

@Gautam: the auto-upgrade feature in wordpress requires you to make your directories world-writeable which is very dangerous. Also it “phones home” with all your install info, which I am not certain everyone wants to happen. I suspect it’s unfortunately going to come to bbPress eventually but I wouldn’t be in a rush for it.

[grassrootspa]

@Jason_JM: Buddypress? No way, that’s overkill and misses my point. Gravatars are built into the bbPress (its part of the CORE). If Gravatars are turned on and someone tries to edit their profile (think newbie who wants to pick their picture) it makes sense for there to be information re: where they can get one. Hyperlinked note directing them to Gravatar.com. Blam. Done.

Best of all, no one will ever need to use avatar uploading plugins ever again. It would solve so many problems.

@Marcomail: if they uploaded the same avatar via a WordPress avatar uploading program and bbPress avatar uploading program, sure why not?

[plop]

Ok just so you know, about the problem with the meta value :

” if I add another topic to my favs, it doesn’t add the id with the previous ones, but overrides the meta_value with the new one”, found the bug :

in the functions.bb-users.php , $user->favorites is used instead of $user->bb_favorites.

That solves the problem.

<br />

function bb_add_user_favorite( $user_id, $topic_id ) {<br />

global $bbdb;<br />

$user_id = (int) $user_id;<br />

$topic_id = (int) $topic_id;<br />

$user = bb_get_user( $user_id );<br />

$topic = get_topic( $topic_id );<br />

if ( !$user || !$topic )<br />

return false;</p>

<p>	$fav = $user->bb_favorites ? explode(',', $user->bb_favorites) : array();<br />

if ( ! in_array( $topic_id, $fav ) ) {<br />

$fav[] = $topic_id;<br />

$fav = implode(',', $fav);<br />

bb_update_usermeta( $user->ID, $bbdb->prefix . 'favorites', $fav);<br />

}<br />

do_action('bb_add_user_favorite', $user_id, $topic_id);<br />

return true;<br />

}<br />

[buddha-trance]

Thank you for the clarification. I have now reactivated the plugin. It is indeed necessary to enter the bb-admin area, when logging in from WordPress.

[ovizii]

well, I made my siteadmin in wpmu the key master, and deleted the keymaster account I used ot isntall. now my key master is shown as inactive, if I refresh he turns back to keymaster…

do I need all the other roles? I’d have wanted to keep it simple, make all wpmu users memebrs and the site-admin key master that is all roles I need, can I ignore the others/

[infected]

@sambauers: Thanks for your reply. No, i haven´t shell access. I´ll ask my hoster. Thanks! If none other users have any questions to the main topic this thread could be marked as solved.

[Gautam]

Hmm.. upgrading……….

In the next release please also put auto update feature…. like wordpress notifies you to upgrade and then automatically upgrades in a single click….

[r-a-y]

Thanks Sam for the update and to _cK_ as well for posting just the changed files.

Question for you Sam.

Does this fix how user roles are mapped between WP and bbPress?

When a WPMU site administrator makes a forum post in bbPress, in the bbPress admin area, it shows the user as a regular member, instead of a Key Master (or whatever role you setup in bbPress’s user role map to sync up with WordPress).

The only person who seems to be a Key Master is the WP user who integrated bbPress.

Is this the way it is supposed to work currently?

I should also mention that I’m using BuddyPress, so that maybe a contributing factor.

[xiao bai]

I recommend continuing to use the plugin.

[_ck_]

Oh I totally forgot about backpress now being automatically dropped in.

I guess the changed files is not a good idea anymore.

I still recommend people install SVN as a client if they can on their server, makes life much easier.

[John James Jacoby]

Out with the old, in with the new.

If it wasn’t against the grain to open up a .9 legacy forum here specifically for supporting it, I’d say just do that and see who falls into it.

A majority of the audience of bbPress are people that want to be on the bleeding edge of WordPress development, and be part of a growing and maturing community. As such, people will remember .9 of bbPress as much as they remember .9 of WordPress (b2evo anyone?)

I personally think anything officially past the end of 2009 is a stretch, and is a very generous offer from Sam to not leave the early adopters on their own without patches and support.

[Sam Bauers]

Those folders are created with 0750 file permissions. If you can’t do anything with them then unless you have shell access you might have to ask your host to delete them and then you can re-create them yourself.

[John James Jacoby]

Woop woop!

[grassrootspa]

_ck_, I love you, (and you are without a doubt the absolute best when it comes to plugins) but I for one am very excited to have the ability to use gravatars and voice built into the core bbPress program.

Respectfully to all, just because the ABILITY to use a new feature is built into bbPress DOES NOT force one to use it. It’s still totally up YOU. No one HAS to incorporate Gravatars or Voices into their site, but it is very cool for newbies to simply turn a core feature on or off rather than needing to download a plugin that is probably months or even a year old…praying it will work with the latest version.

Am I saying Sam should build an NES Emulator and a Weatherbug Widget into bbPress 1.2? HECK NO.

(Sam, start with the Atari emulator instead)

But things like Gravatars, (which Automattic owns) have tremendous potential use (goodbye individual avatar uploading for every single forum, hello universality). And the ABILITY to display voices makes sense to add in (being able to show the number of different people contributing to a topic certainly enhances bbPress).

Perhaps I am in the minority here, but I am hoping future versions of bbPress will continue to add these sorts of new features that make the bbPress experience more enjoyable for all users.

[Sam Bauers]

There are also changed files in BackPress which need to be copied over if you do it that way.

http://backpress.automattic.com/changeset?old_path=tags%2F1.0&new_path=tags%2F1.0.1

[_ck_]

Slightly on topic, Matt is in INC magazine this month:

http://www.inc.com/magazine/20090601/the-way-i-work-matt-mullenweg.html

[buddha-trance]

_ck_, I was fully aware when I upgraded, which I did first on a test install. I am glad I did. Everything works beautifully and it was worth it. All the plugins I am using are working fine. There is only this minor glitch and I thought it was clear enough that I understood you are not supporting the plugins with the new version, and that the question was not addressed to you, not to bother you. I said it’s understandable that you are not, and in no way I was expecting that you drop everything, nor I was thinking that I knew any better.

I am very grateful for the plugins you have written and that I am still using on 1.0. There is nothing wrong with asking if other testers (starting from the alpha) are also using the anonymous feature and if the display name was working for them. It’s a support forum, after all!

[Sam Bauers]

The meta bug was pure stupidity on my part. It only caused visible problems in the profile page somehow, but there you go.

Both that and the “get user by email” issue were enough to force a new release.

[_ck_]

A reminder to those using 0.9 not to upgrade to 1.0 yet as many of my plugins (and others) do not support 1.0. I will not be addressing plugin upgrades until December.

1.0.1 changes:

https://trac.bbpress.org/changeset?old_path=tags%2F1.0&old=2294&new_path=tags%2F1.0.1&new=2309

to download changed files only:

https://trac.bbpress.org/changeset?format=zip&new=2309&old=2294&new_path=tags%2F1.0.1&old_path=tags%2F1.0

The meta issue seems the most serious to me.

[Sam Bauers]

A number of issues have come up since 1.0 was released, mostly minor, but one that was found today justified a minor point release for security reasons.

bbPress 1.0.1 released

All bbPress 1.0 users should upgrade to 1.0.1

[_ck_]

1.0.1 posted 20 minutes ago.

https://trac.bbpress.org/changeset?old_path=tags%2F1.0&old=2294&new_path=tags%2F1.0.1&new=2309

to download changed files only: https://trac.bbpress.org/changeset?format=zip&new=2309&old=2294&new_path=tags%2F1.0.1&old_path=tags%2F1.0

[_ck_]

Read Only Forums has not been tested or fixed to work on bbPress 1.0 which is why you are probably having problems. If any of my plugins work on 1.0 it’s mostly luck at this point.

As far as hosting, I wrote this little bit last year:

http://ckon.wordpress.com/2008/12/18/some-tech-tips-to-find-a-better-wordpress-or-bbpress-host/

[_ck_]

Try deactivating bbPress Moderation Suite for a minute, I want to see if it reduces the load at all. You can see the queries count yourself if you do a “view source” in your browser and scroll to the very bottom where it says:

This page generated in 0.53 seconds, using 34 queries.

[foodadelphia]

these are the plugins i have activated:

Akismet

bbPress Moderation Suite

bbPress Polls

bbSocialize (since deactivated)

Check For Updates

Google Analitycs

Human Test for bbPress

Instant Password

New User Notification Email

PollDaddy for bbPress

Read-Only Forums