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June 19, 2010 at 10:21 pm #89640
In reply to: Where is subscribe for this topic in bbpress.org?
citizenkeith
ParticipantOne of the many broken aspects of bbpress.org 2.0.
June 19, 2010 at 10:04 pm #34487Topic: Where is subscribe for this topic in bbpress.org?
in forum Installationpagal
ParticipantIn last bbpress.org theme there was an option for “subscribe for this topic”…But I can’t find In new one….
I can not stay in touch with this forums regularly but its nice to get email updates abt my topics and I don’t like rss feeds….can any mod activate this plugin?
Thanks
June 19, 2010 at 9:58 pm #88471In reply to: Using login_form from bbPress on a WordPress site
pagal
Participant@kevinjohngallagher you can’t understand what’s the problem?
I think everything clear in ma last post…
June 19, 2010 at 9:41 pm #90040In reply to: Existing WPMU 3 with new bbPress install
kevinjohngallagher
MemberYou can call (some) WP functions via bbPress is you use “deep integration”.
I can’t recommend not to strongly enough, but many do – though WP3.0 has some deep integration issues right now.
Some of them are covered here:
https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/troubleshooting-white-screen-of-death
https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/wp-30-beta-2-integrated-user-registration
June 19, 2010 at 9:40 pm #87834In reply to: Whoa! (bbPress.org 2.0 is live)
kevinjohngallagher
MemberTags no longer paginate.
June 19, 2010 at 9:33 pm #90039In reply to: Existing WPMU 3 with new bbPress install
ciaravino
MemberHmmm. I haven’t tried making a theme for bbPress yet, but would it be possible to call the new wp_login_form that you use for the blog into the header of the bbPress theme instead of using it’s current one?
June 19, 2010 at 9:29 pm #88470In reply to: Using login_form from bbPress on a WordPress site
kevinjohngallagher
MemberWhat would you like me to say?
You haven’t told me what’s you’re expecting teh code to do, and what it does wrong instead?
Please, I want to help, but “it takes me to localhost” gives me nothing to work with
June 19, 2010 at 9:26 pm #88469In reply to: Using login_form from bbPress on a WordPress site
pagal
Participantit takes me to local host… and my code was..
<?php
if ( is_user_logged_in() ) {
echo ”;
} else {
echo ‘
<table width=”480″ height=”90″ border=”0″ align=”right” >
<tr>
<td align=”left” >
<form class=”login” method=”post” action=”http://www.mysite.com/forums/bb-login.php”>
<div>
<label> Username
<input name=”user_login” type=”text” id=”quick_user_login” size=”13″ maxlength=”40″ value=”” tabindex=”1″ />
</label>
<label>
Password
<input name=”password” type=”password” id=”quick_password” size=”13″ maxlength=”40″ tabindex=”2″ />
</label>
<input name=”re” type=”hidden” value=”” />
<input type=”hidden” name=”_wp_http_referer” value=”/” />
<input type=”submit” name=”Submit” class=”submit” value=”Log in” tabindex=”4″ />
</div>
<div class=”remember”>
<label>
<input name=”remember” type=”checkbox” id=”quick_remember” value=”1″ tabindex=”3″ />
Remember me
</label>
</div>
</form>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
‘;
};
?>
<?php } ?>
@kevinjohngallagher please did not say this time “write your own code”
June 19, 2010 at 8:47 pm #90038In reply to: Existing WPMU 3 with new bbPress install
kevinjohngallagher
MemberAgreed. Thats why I said “Yeah, just copy them from the WP-config file.”.
There have been 4 versions of WordPress since the last version of bbPress Installer was written. Thigns change. Just copy them from the WP-config file.
Also, so you know, bbPress isn’t beilliantly compatible with WPMU. thats why the BuddyPress version of bbPress was/is for. I have no idea how this changes for WP3.0
June 19, 2010 at 8:30 pm #90037In reply to: Existing WPMU 3 with new bbPress install
ciaravino
MemberThere isn’t even labels or text boxes for auth_salt, secure_auth, and logged_in_salt in the actual wp-admin/options.php page when you view it from the admin area. There’s a bunch of other options but I’ve looked through them and used Find, but I don’t see them

WordPress Integration Settings for bbPress admin even gives me a direct link to the options page that it says those settings are, but they aren’t there. Here’s what it says for each of the 3 required salts:
“This must match the value of the WordPress setting named “auth_salt” in your WordPress site. Look for the option labeled “auth_salt”.”
“This must match the value of the WordPress setting named “secure_auth_salt” in your WordPress site. Look for the option labeled “secure_auth_salt”.”
“his must match the value of the WordPress setting named “logged_in_salt” in your WordPress site. Look for the option labeled “logged_in_salt”.”
June 19, 2010 at 8:20 pm #90051In reply to: How can I do this?
kevinjohngallagher
MemberNo question is dumb mate, though the idea of testing your users to get 9/10 questions right before allowing them to talk on a forum might be very close to it

It’s just a SQL call.
You can store the information you need in the “_meta” table.
Basically don’t think about it as a bbPress plugin, just code the PHP as you would if it was a website you’d built yourself.
June 19, 2010 at 8:11 pm #90050In reply to: How can I do this?
ts230
MemberHow would I set a meta_key/meta_value pair? Is there an API for it or do I have to run a direct SQL query? A meta_key/meta_value pair is per user, right? Sorry for all the dumb questions, I’ve never programmed a bbPress or WordPress plugin.
June 19, 2010 at 8:03 pm #90036In reply to: Existing WPMU 3 with new bbPress install
kevinjohngallagher
MemberIf I wanted to make it so people had to register and login through the blog, I would just replace all the login stuff on the forums with a link that takes you to the blog?
No, you could just point the
actionpart of your login/registration form to the WordPress one. That way people could login/register from wherever they want, but your WordPress install does all of the difficult work behind the scenes.The salts are all in the wp-config file on my blog, but they aren’t showing up in the options.php page in the blog admin
Yeah, just copy them from the WP-config file.
Also, my blog and forums both have different $table_prefixs. Should they both have the same
Nah, thts fine as long as you have changed the bb-config to let it know what the WP user table is called.
Also, WP3.0MU is totally new to us (it’s been out less than 48 hours), so if there are any additional issues you might be the first to find them.
June 19, 2010 at 7:56 pm #90048In reply to: How can I do this?
ts230
MemberI guess I might take a shot at coding a bbPress plugin. Here’s what I was thinking of:
Adding an additional role that doesn’t allow posting, but is set as the default role. If that is detected, a message will appear telling the user about that, they can click on a link that will open a fancybox and show the quiz. If 9/10 or 10/10 of the questions were right, set some kind of cookie that changes the role to a member that can post. Just double-checking if my idea seems valid.
June 19, 2010 at 7:36 pm #90035In reply to: Existing WPMU 3 with new bbPress install
ciaravino
MemberHmm… I just deleted the forums folder from my hosting site and my local machine, re-unzipped bbPress, renamed it to folder, and uploaded it. Then I got to the install screen and it said there was no bb-config.php, which is correct because I just deleted the whole folder. So I put my database, name, etc in and pressed submit or whatever. It said my information had been saved to bb-config.php successfully. It actually made the bb-config.php file this time. When I clicked the go to step 2 button it said I already have a bbPress installation, so I just tried logging in and stuff and now it works.
I looked in bb-config.php and it didn’t have all the auth stuff filled in, but it still works. I then manually put the auth stuff into bb-config.php, got the plugin for the blog and entered the information in the bbPress admin area but it’s still doing the same thing. If someone logs in from the forums, they aren’t logged in at the site. I’m pretty sure when bb-config.php didn’t have any auth information I was able to log in from the forums and then go to the blog admin area without having to log in (I was originally logged out).
If I wanted to make it so people had to register and login through the blog, I would just replace all the login stuff on the forums with a link that takes you to the blog?
EDIT: Also, in the WordPress Integration Settings in bbPress admin, I have to make the salts match the ones in options.php, but when I go there, I don’t see the salts. The only salt I see is nonce, which isn’t one of the ones that need to match (auth, secure auth, logged in). Maybe that could be the problem? The salts are all in the wp-config file on my blog, but they aren’t showing up in the options.php page in the blog admin.
EDIT 2: Also, my blog and forums both have different $table_prefixs. Should they both have the same?
June 19, 2010 at 7:27 pm #89974Taeo
MemberI guess I wasn’t involved with the community long enough to feel the burn from the back and forth decisions you mentioned. That does sound pretty shitty!
This is just pure speculation here but maybe the information from Automattic was so inconsistent because they weren’t sure what direction they were going themselves. I don’t know the whole history of BackPress but it sounds like it was a pretty big undertaking that would have had implications for WordPress as well. Going off my knowledge and what Matt said in the keynote it sounds like the BackPress project just didn’t work out in the long run but it was too late to take it back from bbPress.
Again, thats pure speculation so treat it with a grain of salt

BTW Taeo, I miss not being able to recommed your UI
Heh sorry about that. It was too much work to maintain between patches
I’ve posted some new stuff on my new website ( http://www.wowuigallery.com/topic/taeo-333-ui ) but it doesn’t have all the auto-config bells and whistles of the original.For an good looking, easy to setup UI I usually recommend TukUI to people. I helped him build his site (WordPress and bbPress of course).
June 19, 2010 at 7:10 pm #89921In reply to: Extra dropdown field in registration page
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Participanthttp://google.com/search?q=site%3Abbpress.org+extra+profile+fields
Since bbPress doesn’t have a dropdown generator, it’s obviously going to need custom code. You can’t set it as a profile key because bbpress won’t properly handle the output/input.
There is an action hook
do_action( 'extra_profile_info', $user->ID );which appears at the end of the regular profile block.
That’s where the data has to be shown.
However the data will not be saved by bbpress because it’s not in the profile keys.
What could be done is the profile keys could be unset when actually on the profile edit page, but exist otherwise – there is a sanitize filter that can be used:
$$key = apply_filters( 'sanitize_profile_info', $_POST[$key], $key, $_POST[$key] );Or sanitization and saving could be done manually at
do_action('profile_edited', $user->ID);by checking $_POSTSo it’s a non-trivial amount of work which is why dropdowns are not already done via a plugin.
If I get through tomorrow without a migraine I might show you how to do a Male/Female dropdown.
June 19, 2010 at 7:10 pm #89973kevinjohngallagher
MemberHi Taeo,
You’re absolutely right.
I doubt anyone here has a problem with Automattic making the best choice for them in the long run. Even if it’s not ideal for everyone; if the good outweighs the bad for a large percentage of people and it gives Automattic another feature to give their users then I can totally see why they’ve come to this decision.
The issue I have personally, isn’t with the decision (or indeed any decision that Automattic have made), but rather the way that information is passed along (or, ususally, not passed along).
To delete the bbpress0.9 milestone and decide to go back on your word to support it for 2010 without telling anyone – even weeks after you deleted it, is symptomatic of how Automattic treat the people involved with this project.
Matt’s word carries alot of weight, especially with WordPress users, so to make dispariging / negative / insulting comments about us in his KeyNote speech is poor. I realise that he was answering a question, and not a prepared statement; and we’ve all answered questions badly before, but it was a slap in the face to those of us who’ve given up our time.
Given that the 1.0.3 milestone has a year’s worth of bug fixes, and NOW isn’t going to be released until all the 1.1 bugs are finished AND a new backPress is released – though thats not been communicated to anyone yet; it makes it hard for those of us who have gotten behind bbPress to draw a line under it.
It’s also why this talk of a Fork is premature. Because when 1.1 gets released, there will be a swell of “bbpress is not dead” euphoria – much in the same way there was when Matt came back in December and when the new theme got uploaded. For me, I just want to get my current forums patched up to work the way bbPress1.0 was meant to and be treated like an adult until that happens.
BTW Taeo, I miss not being able to recommed your UI
June 19, 2010 at 6:51 pm #90034In reply to: Existing WPMU 3 with new bbPress install
kevinjohngallagher
MemberThe simple solution is just to make people signin/register via the Blog.
After I installed bbPress, I looked at my forums folder and my bb-config file was still bb-config-sample and none of the information was changed
I’m not sure how that would work, are you sure there is no bb-config file?
June 19, 2010 at 6:04 pm #89972Taeo
MemberHe even admitted that right now, it would be better off to use another plugin rather than bbPress.
I agree that this seems very insulting but you have to keep in mind Matt’s target audience. Matt and Automattic are concerned first and foremost with WordPress. And the vast majority of WordPress users are not the people involved in this thread – they are bloggers and publishers with very little knowledge of code. For them, the easiest forum solution is a WordPress plugin. We know better here at bbPress.org but we make up a very small (albeit vocal) minority.
Knowing this, it is difficult to imagine the future of bbPress (under Automattic) as anything other than a “core” WordPress plugin. I think your concerns with this, Zaerl, and Kevin, are completely reasonable. It will absolutely be less lightweight than bbPress is now. I have no doubts of that although I am confident the WordPress team will minimize the hit in every way possible.
However, for me personally, the good outweighs the bad. I basically make a living off of customizing WordPress templates for people and I will be very happy to have an easily implemented and officially supported forum solution to offer my clients. I am almost sure this is how the majority of WordPress users also feel.
Unfortunately for those of you who want bbPress to remain a standalone solution I think your time is limited. Even if Automattic wanted to keep bbPress as a standalone solution I don’t think they have the developers to do it. If this is what you really want I think the only choice is to do it yourselves. Whether that means forking or taking some of the core and rebuilding completely – one of you will simply have to take charge on your own and forget Automattic.
I know that sounds harsh – I’m not trying to mean – I totally understand where you guys are coming from. I just think this is the unfortunate state you are in.
June 19, 2010 at 6:00 pm #34531Topic: Existing WPMU 3 with new bbPress install
in forum Troubleshootingciaravino
MemberI currently have a functional WPMU 3 installation. I am trying to add bbPress forums that integrate with logins from WPMU. I installed bbPress and it looked like it was working. But, there are some problems with logins and stuff. If you log out of the blog and the forums then login to the blog, you are logged into both the blog and forums, like it’s supposed to. But, if you login to the forums instead of the blog it doesn’t work. When you login to the forums, you are logged into the forums fine, but not the blog. The minute you even bring up the login form or try to access the admin area of your blog (which brings up the login form), you get logged out of the forums.
I want people to be able to register/login on either the blog or the forums and be logged into both, and the same thing happen when they logout of either the blog or the forums.
After I installed bbPress, I looked at my forums folder and my bb-config file was still bb-config-sample and none of the information was changed.
June 19, 2010 at 3:57 pm #89971kevinjohngallagher
MemberRootside ::
Has anyone considered the possiblity that Matt is keeping his eyes peeled on the current efforts of some people trying to use nothing but WordPress’ core functions to build a simple forum?
He might be mate, but probably not, as doing so isn’t that difficult at all. I creted a “theme” for WordPress that made it look/work like a forum in essence back in 2008. The same time I made and released the phpBB theme for bbPress. Both were availible on the bbProgress website (which closed last year but there should still be some links on t’internet).
And Justin’s coding one based on the new Custom Post features, which will work alot better than mine did (he actually build one last year too, but had a hard drive crash and lost it).
Basically though, a blog and a forum are different in their “n to n” nature. WordPress relies on a huge amount of caching to try and keep it’s memory intake down, and a customised caching mechanism is essential once you hit any form of modernday traffic. That sort of feature works well on “1 to many” software, but a forum is different. It has to call data differently, and handle multiple parent/child relationships.
Rootside ::
I’m guessing that any WP plugin which makes that kind of thing easy to set up and enhances its functionality would be really lightweight.
No, no way mate
The opposite.I understand the desire to make a WP plugin that is a forum, I can see Matt’s viewpoint on that, but in comparison to bbPress as it stands, it’ll be far from lightweight.
Not only will it struggle with the caching that WP relies on, but you’ll have all the overhead of loading everything in WordPress before hitting any actual forum content (including the WordPress admin sections and plugins).
It’s basically going to be very similar to the BuddyPress “bbPress” plugin, as thats a hacked/stripped version of bbpress1.0 (in general terms it removed BackPress and rewrote the function calls to call WP/buddyPress functions directly). But in order to get it to work, every page has to load WordPress then BuddyPress then bbPress forum module.
Lightweight it ain’t!
Even if the very clever people that work at Automattic and contribute to the community manage to pull a great number of rabits out of hats, there is no way that it will be anything but bloated.
But you know, 90% of folks won’t care. Take Marius (poster above me), he runs a forum about Michael Jackson with aboot 100+ users and maybe 50 topics started a week. He’s not that uncommon to alot of the folks that pass through here (other than that he is allergic to manners). They won’t care in the slightest about the small hit as the chances of them noticing it are going to be slim, and they get access to all the good stuff that comes with WordPress, heck for the most part they’ll get the stuff they think they should from bbPress/Wordpress integration now. For a percentage of people, there will be no downside, even if it’s far from lightweight.
I realise that software moves on, and I realise that as it grows there will be some bloat. Thats the reality of where we are, and WordPress does a really great job of being quick despire it’s bloat. But the sheer difference between a bbP0.9/WP2.5 deeply integrated forum (which has MORE features than we have now) and a bbP1/WP3 deeply integrated forum is unbelievable. Bloated, slower, more prone to errors and less features.
I see why Matt thinks things have to change, i don’t agree with the direction and thats cool, i don’t have to agree, nor does anyone

But really the history of this project has taught us one thing repeatedly: Heading in a direction without planning or a roadmap will definately lead us somewhere else, but we’ll be just as lost. Who knows though, 40 years later he may just lead us out of the desert

Hopefully on Matt’s way up to Montreal he’ll see a burning bush
June 19, 2010 at 3:19 pm #90020In reply to: Troubleshooting White Screen of Death
kevinjohngallagher
MemberThere have been a huge increase in the number of reported WSoD reports with WP3.0, and thankfully the WP team are taking notice.
These plugins ( https://wordpress.org/support/topic/411649 ) are definately causing issues. HeadSpace2 is the biggie there as it’s a very popular plugin. I’m quietly confident that it’ll hit alot of people
WPtaven has an article on it, though right now there’s alot of people saying how it was flawless for them (how that helps those who it wasn’t flawless for i’ll never know). You can find that here:
Zaerl has written a plugin found here ( http://pastebin.com/JhJzLjvQ ) that solves one of the problems with WP3/bbP tha was brought up in this thread ( https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/wp-30-beta-2-integrated-user-registration ).
Having seen the hit my servers are taking from WP2.9.2 -> WP3.0RC3 my first guess would be memory. Deep integration of WP3 and bbP1 appears to be a nightmare, especially when I look at my one site thats still running bbP0.9&WP2.5.
Furthermore, I do believe we should start a “WordPress3.0 FAQ thread” that compiles what we know in the first post as a sticky. We’re going to face alot of questions in the next week or so, and maybe we could learn from some past mistakes
June 19, 2010 at 11:05 am #89970Marius-
MemberI think Matt sounded very smart. Like a young Steve Jobs.
If what he say is true about BBpress just copying a bunch of wordpress code, making it hard to update, I think a plugin sounds greater.
I dont see why this future plugins should be incompitable with my current installation though.
As a user, I expect a future edition to carry on what I have now built.
Themes is okay to renew, but my forum posts and users, I would very much like to keep.
June 19, 2010 at 10:10 am #89969_ck_
ParticipantInstead of every topic now turning into a fork discussion, could y’all please just make one fork topic and link to it instead?
That way there will be far less repetition and the original topic subject will remain intact.
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