[88dbsakthi]

I am running earlier version of bbpress and being the bbpress 2 is releases as a plugin of wordpress. Is the core forum supported anymore ? or any suggestions

[pimarts]

Yeah I tried that a couple of times already, because I remembered that being a problem in the beginning.

I have a custom structure with “/%category%/%postname%/” at common settings. And the optional fields are blank.

I’ll probably have to look into the WordPress & Buddypress files to see where they do a 301 re-direct. Because when I installed httpfox and did record a session I saw the browser getting a 301 re-direct.

This is in my htaccess file by the way:

<IfModule mod_rewrite.c>

RewriteEngine On

RewriteBase /

RewriteRule ^index.php$ - [L]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d

RewriteRule . /index.php [L]

</IfModule>

And this from the W3 Total Cache plugin too:

# BEGIN W3TC Page Cache core

<IfModule mod_rewrite.c>

RewriteEngine On

RewriteBase /

RewriteRule ^(.*/)?w3tc_rewrite_test$ $1?w3tc_rewrite_test=1 [L]

RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} (2.0 mmp|240x320|alcatel|amoi|asus|au-mic|audiovox|avantgo|benq|bird|blackberry|blazer|cdm|cellphone|danger|ddipocket|docomo|dopod|elaine/3.0|ericsson|eudoraweb|fly|haier|hiptop|hp.ipaq|htc|huawei|i-mobile|iemobile|j-phone|kddi|konka|kwc|kyocera/wx310k|lenovo|lg|lg/u990|lge vx|midp|midp-2.0|mmef20|mmp|mobilephone|mot-v|motorola|netfront|newgen|newt|nintendo ds|nintendo wii|nitro|nokia|novarra|o2|openweb|opera mobi|opera.mobi|palm|panasonic|pantech|pdxgw|pg|philips|phone|playstation portable|portalmmm|bppcb|proxinet|psp|qtek|sagem|samsung|sanyo|sch|sec|sendo|sgh|sharp|sharp-tq-gx10|small|smartphone|softbank|sonyericsson|sph|symbian|symbian os|symbianos|toshiba|treo|ts21i-10|up.browser|up.link|uts|vertu|vodafone|wap|willcome|windows ce|windows.ce|winwap|xda|zte) [NC]

RewriteRule .* - [E=W3TC_UA:_low]

RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} (acer s100|android|archos5|blackberry9500|blackberry9530|blackberry9550|blackberry 9800|cupcake|docomo ht-03a|dream|htc hero|htc magic|htc_dream|htc_magic|incognito|ipad|iphone|ipod|kindle|lg-gw620|liquid build|maemo|mot-mb200|mot-mb300|nexus one|opera mini|samsung-s8000|series60.*webkit|series60/5.0|sonyericssone10|sonyericssonu20|sonyericssonx10|t-mobile mytouch 3g|t-mobile opal|tattoo|webmate|webos) [NC]

RewriteRule .* - [E=W3TC_UA:_high]

RewriteCond %{HTTP_COOKIE} w3tc_referrer=.*(google.com|yahoo.com|bing.com|ask.com|msn.com) [NC]

RewriteRule .* - [E=W3TC_REF:_search_engines]

RewriteCond %{HTTPS} =on

RewriteRule .* - [E=W3TC_SSL:_ssl]

RewriteCond %{SERVER_PORT} =443

RewriteRule .* - [E=W3TC_SSL:_ssl]

RewriteCond %{HTTP:Accept-Encoding} gzip

RewriteRule .* - [E=W3TC_ENC:.gzip]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_METHOD} !=POST

RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} =""

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} /$ [OR]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} (sitemap.xml(.gz)?) [NC]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !(/wp-admin/|/xmlrpc.php|/wp-(app|cron|login|register|mail).php|wp-.*.php|index.php) [NC,OR]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} (wp-comments-popup.php|wp-links-opml.php|wp-locations.php) [NC]

RewriteCond %{HTTP_COOKIE} !(comment_author|wp-postpass|wordpress_[a-f0-9]+|wordpress_logged_in) [NC]

RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} !(W3 Total Cache/0.9.2.3) [NC]

RewriteCond "%{DOCUMENT_ROOT}/wp-content/w3tc/pgcache/%{REQUEST_URI}/_index%{ENV:W3TC_UA}%{ENV:W3TC_REF}%{ENV:W3TC_SSL}.html%{ENV:W3TC_ENC}" -f

RewriteRule .* "/wp-content/w3tc/pgcache/%{REQUEST_URI}/_index%{ENV:W3TC_UA}%{ENV:W3TC_REF}%{ENV:W3TC_SSL}.html%{ENV:W3TC_ENC}" [L]

</IfModule>

# END W3TC Page Cache core

But taking that out (the W3TC stuff) doesn’t change anything, so the problem isn’t in there.

[John James Jacoby]

The way that BuddyPress integrates bbPress is currently through BuddyPress Groups. Do you want your forums to be powered by user groups, or do you want to have central forums like we have here at bbPress.org and WordPress.org?

[John James Jacoby]

@suziwilson – The way that BuddyPress integrates bbPress, into WordPress, is by taking over the installation and administration of bbPress completely. That said, if you are using BuddyPress to manage your forums, you do not have access to the bbPress admin area any longer.

If you previously had bbPress setup without BuddyPress, there is a large possibility that you will want to go back to the old setup you had before. BuddyPress currently ties forums into BuddyPress Groups, so they work a bit unconventionally compared to your normal support forums.

Very soon you will be able to install a new version of bbPress totally outside of BuddyPress, and they will work transparently without any additional setup, as two separate WordPress plugins rather than having bbPress be tucked away inside BuddyPress like it is now.

I know it’s all really confusing right now, but it won’t be soon.

[Andre]

The bbpress admin panel is for standalone (version 1.x), not plugin (version 2.x). The only options for the plugin are at /wp-admin/options-general.php?page=bbpress.

When BuddyPress mentions integrating bbPress it is referring to integrating bbpress standalone. BuddyPress will work with bbpress plugin one day, but I haven’t seen anything indicating when.

[Suzi Wilson]

Thank you Andre, I can get into my wp-admin just fine. I think my question is rather simple and I just don’t know what I’m doing wrong.

I installed the bbpress plug in and the Buddypress plugin but I hear that you have to administer bbpress and the settings through the bb-press admin panel. However, when I type in my url followed by /bb-admin I only get my 404 page.

I suspect that I am just doing something wrong or I haven’t signed up properly or something. I’m just looking for a breadcrumb of information that will set me in the right direction.

If you have any suggestions on how to set this up properly I would love to hear it. I feel like someone dropped me off in the middle of the desert without a map or compass.

Suzi

[John James Jacoby]

Maybe try visiting your permalinks page and seeing if flushing the rewrite rules helps? The ‘/edit’ is a special rewrite rule, so it’s possible they never got reset.

[Anointed]

Which do you prefer as the default? Users can access all forums, or users can only access forums for which they have a role on that specific site?

I would prefer that users can only access a forum for which they have a role on a specific site.

Here is my argument for this:

1. It is easy enough to programmatically add a user to another site either upon registration or after the fact.

2. buddypress finally has ‘mu’ capability. Many of us have asked for years to have separated installs of bp with an ‘mu’ network. Having users added to all forums can confuse this operation. (besides if you are using buddypress, there is already a plugin to add all users to all groups/forums)

Should forum results appear in your existing blog search? Should they be separated?

I’d rather have all results show up in a users search in a single search box.

Here is my argument:

1. Forum posts are data just like a post is data. I simply use forums in order to present the data in a different layout than blogs as it can be more appropriate.

2. A user comes to a website to find information. Who am I to tell a user that the million+ posts in my forum are less relevant to what they are looking for than a blog post? It gives the impression to a user who uses search and does not see the forum results that there is less relevant information on the site than there actually is.

How I would solve the template problem.

1. Include all results in the search output and simply separate out the design within the template for each type of data output.

`if (get_query_var(‘post_type’) == “post”){

get_template_part( ‘loop’, ‘post’ );

} elseif (get_query_var(‘post_type’) == “topic”){

get_template_part( ‘loop’, ‘topic’ );

} else …..’

2. This can lead to one really annoying issue. The results are output in the order of ‘post-date’, so the results are jumbled together. Meaning you could end up with post – topic – topic – post – reply…

To solve this issue I would attack this with the ‘groupby’ function. I would show 10x ‘posts’ then 10x ‘topics’ then 10x ‘replies’ etc, with a ‘MORE’ button underneath each of the 10. That way a user could say I want to see ‘MORE’ search results for just ‘posts’, or just ‘topics’ etc..

To go even fancier, you could apply some ajax loading to the MORE button.

Another option would be to allow the user to filter their search results either pre or post search utilizing check boxes. A user could select what types they want to search for. Then have the search function itself only include the selected post-types in the initial query.

*All of this is currently possible and I am about 70% there already, although not for search specifically. I ran into this issue when a user goes to a tax term page where the tax term is shared by multiple post-types. When I finish, I’ll pass the code along, although I’m sure you can probably do better than I can anyway.

Should we break the one page up into a few, or leave it as 1 page with all options?

I had to laugh when I read that you thought the page was already out of control. Have you ever seen the admin page for vbulletin?

If it were me, I would use a multi-tabbed admin page much like many of the premium theme companies use.

I absolutely love the flexibility that the vbulletin admin panel gives me. I can control every aspect imaginable and can’t imagine running a large forum without it.

Frankly if an admin doesn’t want to take the time to learn and operate the admin panel they should just bugger off and install any one of the crappy basic forums already available. I’d rather see bbpress turn into a full blown commercial level forum setup for wp.

[pimarts]

Thanks for looking into it! Guess I’ll need to dig a bit deeper in this then. I don’t use any custom bbPress template files by the way. (I do run buddyPress and custom post types, maybe something strange is going on in there).

Guess I need to find out what page is being loaded / looked for when it re-directs from /edit/ to the topic.

Edit: Seems it’s loading /mytheme/page.php (a child-theme copy of bp-default/page.php), but the re-direction happens before loading that page…

Edit2: Disabling all plugins (aside from buddypress & bbpress) and the stuff in functions.php didn’t help either.

[John James Jacoby]

Editing topics and replies has been working for months, and I’m not able to duplicate any of what you’re mentioning on several installs.

If you have passed the time limit on editing topics or replies, the link no longer appears, so that isn’t the problem.

The edit links are always available to admins, regardless of the time limit set.

Sounds to me like something is wrong with your install somewhere. Most likely custom template files?

[pimarts]

In my search.php I only return the title & excerpt. And that works perfectly, until I add the the code above and one of the results is a topic / reply. I assume that’s when bbPress takes over the entire output?

The first result has the breadcrumbs, “This topic has 1 voice, contains 0 replies, and was last updated by.” line, the style of a topic and a reply form. Pretty much just the whole viewtopic page. The results after that (both replies, topics AND blog posts) only display the content (with HTML in it). No titles on either the first or the replies after that. That’s expected behaviour?

As for that appending:

You mean http://www.domain.com/?ts=test or http://www.domain.com/?rs=test? That doesn’t seem to work for me.

I might want to go the Google search way, but for whatever reason I never liked it when sites implemented that. I can’t really say why though haha.

[pimarts]

That’s the risk when you run software that didn’t have a proper release yet

Proper documentation will come in time, I have no doubt about that.

If you were running the plugin that’s in the wordpress repository at the moment (beta2b or something) you might want to change that with the one in trac (https://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org/browser/branches/plugin) that has some fixes in it.

I don’t know if they’ll fix your problem though. I never had to add any code to my functions.php to make it work and while I do have a message in my dashboard “Theme does not natively support bbPress”, it works pretty good

[pimarts]

Didn’t run into anything with the page templates or multisite (don’t use that), but here’s something about the other two:

Search

I like a site wide search results, but maybe an option in the settings is an idea? Something like “Search scope: Don’t search forums / Site wide / forum only” or something. I don’t know how that would work out coding wise for you.

What I ran into when I enabled searching through the forums was the fact that the first result included a reply form and everything, if it could have kept basic styling (like the other results) it would be perfect.

Settings

I don’t think there’s too many settings yet. You could break em up into several pages (with tabs), but that means users have to click more and some options will be harder to find (maybe you want that with some options).

Some settings I would like to see added (just throwing it in here):

• Enable / disable time limit on editing.
• The search scope function mentioned above
• Avatar size
• (Just because I stripped it out and don’t use it) Tag functionality: Enable / disable

[Thomas Clausen]

Why not go the official way? https://translate.wordpress.org/projects/bbpress/plugin

Here it looks like the plugin is 100% translated in swedish

https://translate.wordpress.org/projects/bbpress/plugin/sv/default

[sovery]

I tried all day to get this to work on my WP blog (bbPress, I mean). No go. Sigh. I sure wish there was a step-by-step guide. I’m not at all new to WP but I (obviously) had a lot of trouble trying to get bbPress to work. And I’ve failed. For now. I know people are busy, though, so I’ll check back now and then and see if there are any “bbPRess for Dummies”-type guides.

[pimarts]

This has been asked a couple of times already, try to search for it.

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domain/wp-login.php?action=register should do the trick.

There are shortcodes for the following though, so you might be able to make your own register page (I’m running bbPress in combination with BuddyPress so I don’t need it):

[bbp-login]

[bbp-register]

[bbp-lost-pass]

[EtHeO]

I can’t find the user signup page url for an installed instance of the bbpress plugin. This is the url: http://www.africareport.com.dev.studioseptember.nl/business-opportunities/

Can anyone give me a hint as to where to search for it? I found the php/html code in bbpress/bbp-themes/bbp-twentyten/page-user-register

[John James Jacoby]

Sounds like a great idea to me. Hard to beat the best.

[Thomas Clausen]

Fair enough, and thanks for the great reply.

I think I will go with Google search for now: http://www.google.com/cse and take a rain-check at a later stage.

[John James Jacoby]

Without doing some ender the hood trickery, it’s going to be hard to include all results and satisfy the majority of uses.

bbPress already does some of this to prevent things like rouge comment forms appearing where maybe they shouldn’t. I haven’t been able to come up with a working solution that I think satisfies what 80% of the people using bbPress will want, namely because the WordPress core search function makes what we want to do, a little difficult.

The other thing that you’re noticing is that all search results look like blog posts. That’s because that’s how the search.php in almost all WordPress themes is coded to look. bbPress can’t really intercept every possible query and scan the post_type for topic/reply, and then inject something different, on every singe possible page load. Well, it could, but I suspect the performance hit would be fairly costly and it probably wouldn’t scale well into millions of entries.

So, we’re kinda stuck.

In the meantime, you can append:

?ts=whatever

to search topics, and

?rs=whatever

to search replies in a specific topic, so I do have some logic built in to allow for this… but, it does need some massaging before it’s what I would consider to be ‘correct.’

[John James Jacoby]

So 2.0 beta has been downloaded over 15k times, which is awesome. Feedback has been coming in steadily, and I’ve been holding an official RC because of a few odds and ends that are taking some time to figure out. Hoping to get some feedback on a few specific things:

Page Templates

The way WordPress works, page templates can work automagically if the template name matches a page slug. This is really convenient as it automatically acts like a page template without setting it, but can get in the way if you want to use a specific page slug and not have bbPress take it over. Example:

page-user-register.php

If you made a WordPress page with the unique slug ‘user-register’ WordPress would automatically use that template file for that page. So far I’ve purposely picked unlikely template names so they wouldn’t collide with existing slugs. But, if that same file was renamed to:

page-register.php

…all it would take is making a “Register” page and bbPress would automatically have a sign-up page with no shortcodes and no more work. The adverse to that convenience is if you want to customize your sign-up page beyond what bbPress provides, you’re looking at a totally custom theme.

This works with any template file in the root folder of a theme, so there are lots of possibilities. My goal is to satisfy the majority, so I’m thinking of heading in this direction and renaming the template files.

Multisite

At the moment, multisite integration works great, if you want to have individual bbPress forums with their own authorized users per forum. If you want to have all users have access to all forums in a multisite install, you’re currently out of luck. With multisite there are endless configuration options, and I see the use case for all of them.

Which do you prefer as the default? Users can access all forums, or users can only access forums for which they have a role on that specific site?

Search

Right now there is no interface for searching the bbPress 2.0 integrated forums. The original implementation got negative reviews because search results were site wide, showing blog entries, topics, and replies.

It’s currently possible to filter search results by post type (topic/reply) but most WordPress themes assume the search results will come from posts or pages, and as such aren’t styled to look like forum results, which is really confusing to the person performing the search. It’s also confusing to have multiple search boxes, or to need to pick what results you’re looking for.

How do you think it should work? Should forum results appear in your existing blog search? Should they be separated? Should there be some kind of ‘smart search’ that knows where the request came from, and only shows results based on the type of content you are looking at (blog/forum/other)?

Settings

The WordPress mantra is decisions over options, but creating something as large as a discussion forum within WordPress is going to come with at least a few settings. I think our settings page is starting to get out of hand. Should we break the one page up into a few, or leave it as 1 page with all options?

That’s what’s on my mind. If you’ve been using 2.0 for the past few weeks, your input would be much appreciated so these last few ends can be tied up and we can let this ship sail.

[sovery]

Thank you Andre! You helped clarify, a bunch.

FYI, at this point I’m using Genesis and a customized Genesis child theme. I got the child theme to be “recognized,” via the “bbpress integration” plugin by putting in a line of code into my custom functions.php file. But now I can’t get the actual *forum* to appear in the basic “page” I created (yes, I put in shortcode: [bbp-forum-index] and published, and made “public.”) I also tried putting in shortcode for showing ONE particular forum. Nothing shows up. I only have one forum (as a test).

I think I’m missing something very obvious here, or, my overall WP 3.2.1 setup is too weirdly customized to even use bbPress at this point. Not sure.

Thanks for trying to help, though. I do appreciate it! I’m looking forward to seeing any new improved documentation they release (“step-by-step” for dummies would be GREAT! maybe a video, too?). I think that would help a LOT for people like me who have never used forum-ware at all, just regular WP plugins.

[Thomas Clausen]

Yep. I just saw that too. It shows the entire topic or reply. If you click the topic nothing is wrong, but if you click the reply, it is shown really weird with a commentform under each reply…

[pimarts]

I tried doing this too. And it worked, in a way. But with that code (I think it was that code I used at least) it enables searching in the forums, but for whatever reason the first result showed up in complete view topic style, including a reply form etc. Which is not really what I wanted for search results.

Probably something on my end, so I disabled that feature for now.

Any ideas JJJ?

[Andre]

@geek9mm – Depending on your theme, you will have the option to remove the sidebar when creating or editing a page. You can also go to /wp-admin/edit.php?post_type=page, click quick edit for the forum page, and change the template option.

If you are looking for bbPress to have a completely different look than the WP part of you site I think you have 2 main options, using bbPress 2.x on a multisite installation or using bbPress 1.x.

The references to bbPress integration are for the standalone version of bbPress (1.x).