[chrishajer]

What do you mean “nothing” appears? Blank screen or 404 from your WordPress site? Or something else? How about the URL where you are trying to install?

You can use a subdomain if you like, but it’s not necessary. You have a more basic problem.

[Anonymous User]

Why isn’t bbpress just WordPress with a slightly different ‘loop’ ?

The only differences between a ‘blog’ and a ‘forum’ I can see are:

• Posts are ordered by last comment, not by original posting date
• Database remembers the last comment you have seen for each post

Otherwise, are there any basic code differences? (“Forums” just become “Categories” so that should just be window-dressing, not code.) Why can’t we build bbpress right into WordPress as-is?

[eyashwant]

I installed wordpress mu and bbpress in single database and installed integration plugins of respective ones on both. And configured it.

As of today mine is the latest wordpress mu version and bbpress version. The problem I am facing is :

1) Login integration

2) User roles integration

3) Theme integration

In detail :

1) Login integration :

When I login in to wordpress and then move to forum, I am logged in. Also when I logout of wordpress and then go to forum I am logged out. This works perfectly. The problem is when I login in to forum and then move to wordpress, it does not work. Also when I logout at forum and then move to wordpress I am still logged in. I can access wp-admin. When I access wp-login it seems like I am logged out. But if I access wp-admin I am logged in. If I press log out I get error :

You are attempting to log out of Test 1

Please try again.

URL of where I am getting is http://test1.soulblog.net/wp-login.php?action=logout_wpnonce=f3ec0d7e0f

2) User roles, in wordpress I installed Role manager. In bbpress I see the registered users as “Inactive (no role)”

3)I want to integrate wordpress theme in the forum. I followed the steps below :

____________________________________________

styling your forum

1. Open bb-config.php and add the following line (replacing PATHTOYOUR with the

relative path to your blog):

require_once(‘/PATHTOYOUR/wp-blog-header.php’);

2. Navigate to the folder for the theme you are using on the forum (the default is

Kakumei, which is in /bb-templates/kakumei) and open the header.php

file. Replace the contents with <?php get_header(); ?>.

3. After the <?php get_header(); ?>, ����������������������������������insert the following line of code:

<link rel=”stylesheet” href=”<?php bb_stylesheet_uri(); ?>”

type=”text/css” />.

4. You can do the same with the footer, replacing it with <?php get_footer(); ?>

if you wish.

5. Open the style.css file for the bbPress theme you are using. Search for the

following line in the header: class.

background: url(‘images/page_header_bblogo.png’) no-repeat

Remove that line and save the file.

6. View the forum. It should now be very similar in look and feel to the rest of the

blog network.

__________________________________________

This replaced the header and footer, but did not integrate well.

So some one please guide me with these 3 issues and get me solved asap.

[chrishajer]

> Why not just include the majority of them

Finite resources. WordPress didn’t become great by cramming a bunch of features in. WordPress is great because of the ability to add plugins and themes. Any feature you want, and any look you want, is available in WordPress using a plugin or a theme. If there needs to be a new hook added to WordPress to allow a plugin to accomplish something, they generally do it.

It’s taken WordPress a long time to incorporate into the core a lot of things that used to be plugins, and maybe should still be plugins. bbPress is nowhere near that stage yet.

[Dailytalker]

Kevin, before I changed from SMF to bbpress I checked the extensions. I use the following plugins:

Activated:

allow images

image rezizer

bbvideo

Bavatars

BBcode Buttons Toolbar

BBcode Lite

bbPM

bbpress signatures

bbpress smilies

bbpress user directory

bozo users

members online

Not activated:

Askimet (do not like it)

Remove topic forum (unfortunately there is no updated version, it would be a cool thing for users who like SEO-friendly pretty urls)

open-ID (no facebook login and does cause problems with the current bbpress version; wait until its updated)

bbpress polls (causes some problems with my template)

bb topic views (did not find out how to change the language; does not work with poedit and in the files I did not fiend the word “views” so I cannot translate it in german)

ignore user (needs to be updated for the current bbpress version)

All this plugins are nice but with all this bbpress is ways apart from SMF. Thats why former members complaint about the change from SMF to bbpress. SMF allowed to write drafts before posting and other things not mentioned yet…

Regarding the spam problem: SMF and wordpress did solve that problem (wordpress has a lot of good spam protection plugins as well..no need for askimet). I have a pr 5 page and no problems with spam. Register option 3 usually is secure enough. Email-address needs to be proved and there is a captcha-code. If this is not enough you can use register option 4 (member approval) With member approval the admin has to activate new members. With this spam can be avoided. Further SMF had a sophisticated bozo-user ban protection. You could ban by member-name, ban by IP-Number, ban by email address etc.

Regarding the design of the new forum:

The new forum design is better than the design of the old forum. I am not a designer, therefore I don’t think like a designer. I am somebody who likes to have the overview. The new theme is better to keep the overview. On the top you have the latest posts. Beneath you have the different categories and subcategories. This structure is easy to understand. Further the new design allows me to place more ads. Also I work with a drop down menu. Did you use it? It helps too to keep the overview.

[Dailytalker]

Kevin, you can check yourself:

Old forum:

http://www.dailytalk.ch/forums/index.php

(I had pretty urls before but I removed them when I moved this forum into another folder.)

New forum:

http://www.dailytalk.ch/forum/

The old forum had a tinymce-editor with a lot of cool features…drop-down menu for font-size, drop-down menu for different font-style, drop-down menu for different font-color, you could put some letters up (for example “CO2” you could write with the 2 higher than the other letters and also deeper etc.) movies, pictures, links, quotes with name of the original author, message function to reporte abusive messages to the moderators, you could temporary ban members, you could move posts from one topic to another in a very easy and very nice way, sophisticated privat messaging, high security level no spam, you could in an easy way change the login requirements, sophisticated admin-section, admins could see the IP-Number of the visitors, very easy mod (=plugins) upload through integrated ftp-upload, ssi-functions and so on….

The change to bbpress was not an easy decision for me. In my opinion bbpress is still an adventure. Many bbpress-projects are on release candidate level. I used SMF for 3 years and was happy. The problem is that I also have blogs on wordpress and wordpress mu. I had some problems with integration of SMF into wordpress. There are certainly some very old bridges but the different codings didn’t make it easy to me. I integrated SMF with SSI-Functions to wordpress…but I think that because of the similiar coding bbpress is much easier to integrate into wordpress. Thats why I finally decided to give bbpress a chance. I’m somebody who likes to try out new or other things.

@hpguru, what you say is not true at all!!! I never ever had problems with spam when I used SMF!!! SMF offers different register opportunities. They have in the admin-section a so called registration management which offers four different options for registration:

1) Registration Disabled:

Disables the registration process, which means that no new members can register to join your forum.

2) Immediate Registration

New members can login and post immediately after registering on your forum.

3) Member Activation

When this option is enabled any members registering to the forum will have a activation link emailed to them which they must click before they can become full members

4) Member Approval

This option will make it so all new members registering to your forum will need to be approved by the admin before they become members.

Further they have captcha-codes which need to be entered in a registration field. (You can even change the level of those codes. They have different difficulty-levels).

New updates are shown in the admin section…is very simliar to wordpress and you can easy update with integrated ftp-upload.

[Dailytalker]

Before bbpress I used SMF (Simpe Machines Forum) http://www.simplemachines.org/. SMF is also open source and it offers much more features than bbpress and it has much more developer. I changed to bbpress for two reasons:

I searched for something which I could better integrate into wordpress and I thought that wordpress and bbpress are more SEO friendly than SMF and Tinyportal.

When I changed from SMF to bbpress I lost about 50% of my previous forum members. It’s because bbpress doesn’t offer as much features than SMF. Some members complaint because of this, thats why I know it.

[Casemon]

hpguru pretty much nailed it.

Beyond that, you may wish to research basic wordpress site editing; it will help you loads, & there are many wonderful resources for this on the web.

[Macmenddotcom]

Nothing is dead until it stops breathing and its heart stops beating, bbpress is opensource, if you like it as a forum and want it to continue then get coding, the wordpress codex says of opensource:

“open source – is simply programming code that can be read, viewed, modified, and distributed, by anyone who desires. …”

The next thing is promote it, if you have a blog do what I have done here: http://www.macmend.com/archives/114

If you just have a forum with no blog then use what I have done above as a sticky topic.

[chrishajer]

There is no script I know of to migrate from IPB to bbPress.

There are themes available but finding them is a little difficult right now. They are scattered about, not in one central repository as with WordPress.

[Fernando Tellado]

Yo pondría el bloque de login en el sidebar, igual que en el theme de wp

I would put login block in sidebar, as in wp theme

[paamayim]

Just an update, I read elsewhere that this is deprecated in latest WP versions:

require_once dirname(dirname(__FILE__)) . '/wp-blog-header.php';

This should be used instead:

require_once dirname(dirname(__FILE__)) . '/wp-load.php';

[paamayim]

This is so annoying guys

What’s the cleanest solution to this, for WP 2.8.6 installed in / and bbPress 1.0.2 installed in /forum/ ?

Thanks very much, indexing is vital to me.

[Gautam]

Hey folks,

Just ported a WordPress theme (which is here) to bbPress (which is here).

It is a spanish website of my client named Severus Online Club, so just wanted to share it.

All suggestions are welcomed.

[Casemon]

re: # 3

Get this & follow the directions:

https://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/wordpress-bbpress-syncronization/

[stulynn]

I really hate to create a new thread but I promise all of you I’ve spent hours perusing this forum and hounding google to find answers but I’m not having the best of luck.

Here are three areas I need help with:

1. How to add a logo within the bbpress site? I can use it to replace bbpress or put it on the left side of the URL for the site.

2. How do i create a link back to the wordpress blog. I’ve already created a link from wordpress to bbpress. (Yes both sites are minimally integrated: sharing the database and this seems to be working)

3. How do i get it so when someone posts in WordPress there is a forum discussion item already created? Did I creatively imagine this or is this a function that can occur. Mine don’t seem to do that.

4. Is there a way to change the URL suffix/Permalink of the forum to read forum rather than bbpress or do I need to do some transferring of files in file manager?

Much much appreciated,

Lynn

http://jslhoa.com (blog)

http://jslhoa.com/bbpress (forum)

[hpguru]

Hi, i have very good bbPress forum. I like bbPress. I am use a bbPress 1.0.2 but i may found 1 new bug.

I go to my bbPress dashboard and see posts count, thats say: 4024 posts.

Then i go to bb-admin/posts.php and i see 1 – 20 / 4,121. This mean i have 4121 posts on my forum.

I try recounting without any help to this problem.

My plugins now:

Akismet

Human Test For bbPress

Topics Per Page

bbSmilies (maybe smilies from WordPress plugin, i change it name, when i modified smilies codes)

[Michael]

You may be having issues with User Roles in your installation. The redirect back to the forums generally happens when a user does not have permission to access a certain area.

Are you using WordPress integration at all? There seem to be some problems with that and user roles.

[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

Is it integrated with WordPress and, if so, did they upgrade WP to 2.9 recently?

[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

There’s also an accountability aspect to all this.

In my opinion, a goodly portion of the reason you run your OWN forum, rather than pay some other site to host, code etc one for you, is that YOU remain responsible and accountable for YOUR code and your visitors. Any SLA/Terms of Use you come up with are yours, and you can make the final decisions on what is and isn’t okay.

Why would you remove that, just for FaceBook?

OpenID is … a little different, though I’m still not sold on the efficacy of it. I have LJ, WordPress and a myriad of other sites I can choose to log in through. I’m still relying on them… I don’t know how I feel a out that in the long run.

[Casemon]

Update: I no longer have this issue, since rebuilding the bbpress installation. Before, something was screwy, between outdated documentation, and just learning bbp.

Hurrah!

[Sam Bauers]

I just want to set the record straight a little here as some things have been said that aren’t accurate.

The flaming that Matt has received from @sadness above is unwarranted, unsubstantiated and quite cowardly.

I left Automattic to pursue my own interests both within and outside of the web development world. This was my own decision, there was no pressure from Matt or anyone at Automattic to leave. Before I left Automattic I talked with Matt about a bunch of possible directions for bbPress and my own options within the company. Whilst a lot of the ideas we discussed would make for interesting and important work, I didn’t feel passionate about it, and I was feeling a little burnt out after about 10 years of web development work.

_ck_ was always a constructive critic of bbPress. I always gave her plenty of my time so that she could fulfil that role. In the absence of a full-time lead on the project to hear that input I imagine that she felt her contribution in that regard was limited. It’s not that Matt isn’t good at listening, it’s just that he’s about 100 times busier than a full-time lead would be.

I’d also like to chime in on the future development path of bbPress a little. The idea of moving to becoming a canonical plugin I think is the only sensible way forward for bbPress. bbPress needs a bigger user base to be viable as a product. A big problem in the past has been justifying changes in WordPress for the benefit of bbPress, so the more users there are of bbPress the more accommodating WordPress will be in that regard.

WordPress development moves really fast, it was (and will be) totally inefficient to spend time and energy maintaining compatibility with WordPress as a stand alone product, when bbPress can get all that stuff for free as a plugin. There is a ton of common code between WordPress and bbPress now (mostly in the form of BackPress). That should all go away. The PHP framework is WordPress. The only issue is bloat for those using bbPress as a standalone product. WordPress + bbPress plugin will be a lot of code, and will probably be slower than bbPress 1.0 (and almost certainly slower than 0.9). But by hooking into WordPress, a lot of the work that has been done and that will be done in the future to speed it up will be gained. It’s a case of “two steps forward, one step back” but I think it’s the right decision for the project.

Although there was a lot of effort put into BackPress/bbPress 1.0, a whole lot of that work has ended up in WordPress, so it won’t be wasted development. The best vehicle going forward is the canonical plugin route. I suggest that the community gets behind that plan.

[grassrootspa]

@ johnhiler:

You make a lot of excellent points. It’s funny you bring up the memory issues (had to move my news website site from Godaddy to my own server because of that very issue with WordPress).

This is a great community and have no doubt it’s going to be a fun year for bbPress. Can’t wait to see where things go in the next six months!

[johnhiler]

@grassrootspa – It sounds like there are two different issues being discussed:

1) bbPress needs a Facebook connect feature

2) That feature (along with a bunch of others) should be in the core

1) FB Connect

On the first point… typically the way new features get built is to either:

* build it yourself, or to

* hire someone to build it for you.

The third path is to try and convince others to build it for you for free… but I’ve very rarely ever seen that work.

I’ve actually read stats that show that Facebook Connect can greatly uptick registration:

http://www.businessinsider.com/2008/12/facebook-connect-still-tiny-will-grow-fast

So it may be worth building. But it’s very very difficult to convince someone to develop plugins for free, especially when we don’t have many (any?) active plugin developers… so that basically just leaves the options to build it yourself or to hire someone to build it for ya.

If you tell the developer that it will be open source, maybe they will discount their fee? Or you could ask other users to contribute to the fee…

2) All/most major features should be in the Core

WordPress has put a ton of features into the Core. It’s gotten to the point where even smallish sites can’t run without a caching plugin:

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001105.html

It’s not just CPU – the latest versions also eat up lots of memory just to serve up a single page:

http://www.oceanlight.com/log/wordpress-28-memory-usage-and-bloat.html

I’m not sure if this Canonical Plugins initiative would help reduce this bloat or not:

https://wordpress.org/development/2009/12/canonical-plugins/

We don’t have to predict that moving most features into the core will increase bloat and slow down servers… it’s already happened on the WordPress side of things. I think most smaller blogs don’t mind – you can just add caching and be fine for a while. It’s a lot harder for larger sites… I’ve wrestled with scaling my blog, and I’m on a dedicated server. But Matt mentioned that scaling is not really an issue, so I must be missing something:

http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2009/08/28/podcast-25-wordpress-matt-mullenweg/

I think it will be a lot harder to cache bbPress than it will be to cache WordPress, since community sites update so many more times than to a blog. So the WordPress strategy to put a lot of features into the core and address scaling through a caching option… probably won’t be as effective on the bbPress side of things. So that makes it even more important to keep the bbPress core clean.

In any case, I don’t want to be a downer here – there’s still hope for the bbPress platform, if we can unite around keeping the core engine “simple, fast, and elegant” (especially fast!!). If not, then it will be tough to keep the platform viable and we risk losing what progress we’ve made so far.

[grassrootspa]

@ (my affable sparring partner) kevinjohngallagher:

1) re: the 350 million facebook users, there was just a story on Mashable ‘Facebook’s Road to 350 Million Users’: (http://mashable.com/2009/12/02/facebook-350-million-users/)

“Mark Zuckerberg’s note detailing Facebook’s latest privacy changes also contained an announcement about another important milestone for Facebook: 350 million users.”

Facebook’s own website: (http://www.facebook.com/press/info.php?statistics):”‘More than 350 million active users”

I’m just going with what they said

2) I don’t have official ‘stats’ but can tell you Facebook connect is put to use on my site (I run Intense Debate, which offers various ways folks can leave comments). Twitter connect is occasionally as well (but not as much as FB connect) My general point is this: it’s optional and it and brings new folks into the discussion. IntenseDebate was smart to incorporate several different optional login methods! From my standpoint, I am very happy to offer FB connect to my readers

3) “So, who are these magical little elves that are going to build and then maintain all these features??” (BTW, I too am a South Park fan so I immediately got your reference):

Build and maintain all those features? You are missing my point…if existing popular plugins like ‘topic views’ or ‘bbcode’ are built into the core a third party no longer needs to maintain the plugin and make sure they don’t break in bbPress 1.0, bbPress 1.1, etc. They are STANDARDIZED and can be further fleshed out! (WordPress example: Just like WordPress did with the automatic updater and ability to thread comments…) _ck_ came up with some really slick and widely used plugins, and she is probably won’t be maintaining them from here on out. Maybe stuff like ‘BBcode Buttons’ should continue as a Core features?

Even though we both disagree on some of these things, we both want the same thing…bbPress to be more widely used & developed and the bbpress community to grow (those that make plugins, templates, etc). I would also like to see bbPress to emerge as a vBulletin alternative.

Again, things like Voices, gravatars, profile pics, profile occupation and location, tags etc could have all been simply left as plugins, but they were incorporated into the core. My overall point (forget FB connect for a sec) is that things like Voices, gravatars, profile pics, profile occupations, location, and other features are part of the core and that is a very good thing! It makes it easier for bbPress to be more widely used because a separate plugin is not needed for each (good for newbies, stability, and so community can further flesh them out via plugins or themes) There is less danger of those features breaking (they are now features of the Core, not separate plugins). The use of those features is standardized so plugins and themes can be developed to make use of those features without requiring a plugin to use each.

In a nutshell, I think things like bbcode, topic views, and some other plugins should sit alongside Voices, gravatars, etc as features that should be incorporated into the Core.

kevinjohngallagher, I love your passion. I am someone who is probably not as skilled as you are with computers and technology (17FB accounts…you sound busy!) I’m not a developer, just some newbie that taught himself how to run WordPress and bbPress by messing around with the stuff.

We aren’t going to agree on Facebook-connect (it’s a tougher sell than some of the others), but I would wager that there is probably a popular plugin or two that you might also agree should logically be part of the core for stability and out-of-the-box-feature issues. Thoughts?