[zaerl]

I have inserted the “code” button for the simple reason that the backtick character is difficult to be typed on a keyboard that isn’t the “standard” U.S. ASCII. This is true for the vast majority of the keyboard layouts worldwide.

The only disappointment is that it doesn’t seem to understand strikethrough fonts.

It doesn’t understand strikethrough cause that tag (the obsolete ‘s’) isn’t enabled by default on bbPress.

I provide support for standard tags: strong, em, a, img, ul, ol, li, blockquote, code and the non standard img that is widely used.

My plugin do not enable new tags (and implicitly new buttons) in current version 0.3.2 but it does in 0.4 (trunk). I have taken my position regarding the future of bbPress and so I will not upload new plugins and/or updates (https://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/zaerl-editor/page/2/#post-5992). Anyway if you need the new zaerl Editor with custom buttons and other fancy features write me a couple of lines. za AT zaerl.com

[_ck_]

@Marius, but everyone downloads different ones.

I’d never want to see even a handful of my plugins built into bbPress by default.

As much as people express the desire for a program to do everything they want out-of-the-box, it’s a VERY bad idea with software. Makes things too bulky. WordPress today is a perfect example of what happens when you give into that desire, you get bloated, overloaded, slow code.

But sadly they don’t believe in plugins – I’m kinda surprised even akismet is not hard coded into WordPress.

bbPress should have been a lightweight framework, half the size that it is now, that maybe shipped with a dozen plugins that are OFF by default. Too late now though.

[Marius-]

Which is a strong indication that a huge majority of BBPress users wants the functionality offered by many of your plugins. Which should make it obvious that many of them should be built straight into BBpress by default.

[kevinjohngallagher]

Morning Peter,

It’s cool if you disagree. I’m confident we could all pick something in WordPress in the core that we think should still be a plug-in; and of course there is no right answer. What I’m not sure you’re aware of though, and you might be, is just how different the “overhead” between bbPress and WordPress is.

bbPress0.9 loads and runs at 10 or under SQL queries per page. Including the front page. Thanks to certain DB/query tweaks, and some wonderful _CK_ code, I have that at 8 SQL queries on one of my smallest intranet forums.

This is in comparison to the same 8 queries generated by the new wp_nav_menu in WP3.0. In fact the wp_nav_menu calls a not totally-in-expensive INNER JOIN for each post-type reference in the menu. It’s not a set 8 calls, without judging anything based on what it will become, if wp_nav_menu starts to accept custom post types natively, that’s going to shoot way up.

In a flat comparison, the default theme of WP3.0 with no plug-ins running, generates 19 SQL queries. Twice as much as bbPress0.9.

As someone mentioned earlier, the new bbPress plug-in would be lighter or sleeker. If it takes more SQL calls to generate the header and footer of WP than it does to load an entire bbPress forum – how does that work?

(I do realise that not all SQL queries are equal, but I do think it’s quite a good initial benchmark. Especially if you look at SAVEQUERIES output and see what sort of query each is, and its execution time.)

Additionally, as someone with your background with WP, I would love to hear your take on the caching issue. For two of my websites that have relatively ok traffic, caching is essential on WP. There are plug-ins that do this brilliantly, so thats no worries. But thats very much a “1 to n” nature. Forums are an “n to n” nature; and really don’t lean well with caching, especially in the flat-file constant-updated format.

How would one percieve that to affect WP based websites with a forum plugin of this nature attatched?

=================================

I think there is a viewpoint that is being missed here.

People are falling into 3 groups:

1. Need a forum that works with WordPress
2. Need a standalone forum, but some WordPress integration is ideal (sign in/users)
3. Needs a standalone forum.

There appears to be a presumption is that we’re all in Group 1 and that we’re fighting change. That’s not the case at all.

I’m actually in favour of there being a WordPress forum plug-in. I think loads of people here will be. I also think that with JJJ working on it, and Justin Tadlock’s second attempt out there in the wild that it will go really well. I wish it the best of luck, and if we can offer advice or war stories or anything to help out – we’re here. We’re here because we support FOSS

The issue arises here is if you’re in Group 2, you have a decision whether to “upgrade” to running everything through WordPress or not. It’s just been presumed that’s your actual goal. At this point in time, we’d like some information (positives/negatives at a minimum) and info on how this decision has came about. People in Group 2 could move into Group 1 easily if given more information than:

“everything is going to be A-okay”

“Like it or not, this is the hand we’ve been dealt…”

But the users in Group3, the people who chose this as standalone forum software and didn’t make that decision based on WordPress – they’re being thrown out on their ear. With no warning. JJJ has stated, and I think we all appreciate that he’s taken the time to sit and answer some questions, that bbPress1.1 will be it’s last. Well, thats announced as bbPress1.1 is 1 trac ticket away from being released. How much warning is that??

If you’re in Group3, and large chunk of our support questions come from people who are, you will now be ‘forced’ to run WordPress if you want to stick with bbPress.

==============================================

I suppose what I’m saying is this. Changes in Life and in FOSS happen. Some we like, some we don’t. But there has to be a carrot with every stick, or people start to feel publicly flogged.

I want JJJ and Pete and anyone who helps them to succeed in achieving their goals. But I’ve scanned this forum page, and the emails they were kind enough to send me, and right now, if you didn’t come here specifically to use a forum inside WordPress… I can’t see the carrot.

There are people here alot cleverer than me, and alot better at wording than myself, so if i’m missing the carrot, please do a Denzel “explain it to me like a 3 year old”.

[pastorbobsforum]

Hello.

I’m back with a few results, both good and bad, but mostly bad; in fact – disastrous. It might be just me, but I find modifying kakumei much more difficult then wordpress’ default theme (twentyten). My skills, on a scale from 1 to 10, are at about 3, but everything that’s changed from the default in wp (except the header and footer jpegs), to what you see here now were made by me.

So, this is what I have at the moment: http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac166/nobody5973/post.png

http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac166/nobody5973/prelogin.png

I got round my last issue, by placing the header.jpg in a branding div, which came before a colophon-header, containing the login and my returntosite. For the time being, the header and the footer can stay as they are.

My current issue needs, I guess, a different topic, since it has to do with the forumlist table.

[kevinjohngallagher]

I think what I might be confused about, is if bbPress as it is today is close to exactly what it should be, what would you want it to do 2 years from now that wouldn’t add more bloat or slow it down?

bbPress0.9 is as good as any forum software out there, save for 2 things. Moderation and the Admin section. It’s crazily fast, secure, and extentable. It’s let down by lack of actions/filters, default theme and documentation.

bbpress1.0 is 50% slower and breaks alot of plugins but has some more hooks and an Admin section. Moderation is still the big thing, as is the default theme.

A clear out (archiving) and rethink of the plugin section and the creation of a new theme would make it very very useable.

Additionally both have also been let down by the layout/use of this forum, which makes finding information difficult; and a plugin section that doesn’t work.

Basically, all the feature requests we recieve, all go over the same ground – and can be covered by plugins. Most are covered by plugins (in a 90%) sort of way. With everything in Limbo there is no need to take things to the n-th degree.

From an honest to goodness Project management point of view, bbPress can be where we need it to be within 9 month – a year. But that time grows as we add more features (that we already have as plugins grrr) and less bug fixes.

So yeah we could fork it as is. But given Matt’s current desire to berate us (both the people here and the software) in public at Wordcamps, and his latest more… evangelistic approach to publicly taking umbridge at anyone he doesn’t like or disagrees with him; he makes the envornment out there relatively difficult to consider moving into, while intentionally hampering our efforts here.

If today, it’s good; then let’s fix up what we have to put out a solid 1.1 stand-alone, and when shift gears to focus on 1.2 as the plugin milestone.

Dude, we’re trying.

I mean, i know you know that

But in order for that to happen, we need the head honcho or “he who wont talk to us, only about us in keynote speeches”. All Keymasters, all of those who package things up and can edit the website… AutoMattic. The same folks who’re scrapping us for you.

I hate this looking like an US vs. THEM scenario, it just polarises people, and looks childish. But in honesty, “we” didn’t put ourselves in this holding pattern.

Additionally, putting out a solid 1.1 standalone will be tough and time consuming. We’ve 13 months of bugs, we’ve 13 months of backPress changes and potential changes in 3 releases of WordPress to contend with; there is going to be alot of bugs found in testing – and with Jane telling people that bbPress in its current implementation isn’t going to even work the WordPress.org forums and Matt telling people not to use the software we’re are hemmoraging people.

[ColinBradbury]

Hi I have customised the default theme as to make it match the rest of my site but I am having a major problem getting this page to look right http://www.supporttheanimals.co.uk/bbpress/topic.php?id=3 as you can see all the posts are towards the bottom of the page, could anyone tell me which section of the CSS of files I need to edit to fix this.

Also as a not so important but just an annoyance thing, if you navigate to another part of my site you will notice that the BBPress theme doesn’t quite match the rest of my site, mainly I think due to an error on my part with setting up the margins and padding but I can’t for the life of me find that solution either so if anyone can spend a moment or two to maybe let me know what I have done there too please?

If you need any of my code please don’t hesitate to ask you can contact me here or via email colin @ supporttheanimals.co.uk (without the spaces).

Kind Regards

Colin

Founder of Support The Animals

http://www.supporttheanimals.co.uk

[crobinson18]

Here is the complete error message (Dashboard:Appearance) AFTER changing from WPMIMIC to wpmimic:

Theme not found. Default theme applied.

Current Theme

Warning: implode() [function.implode]: Invalid arguments passed in /home/content/68/5318568/html/bb-admin/includes/functions.bb-admin.php on line 1180

by

All of this theme’s files are located in the “” themes directory.

[crobinson18]

OK, so at least I’m not crazy! By the way, I’ve tried this on multiple computers but only using Internet Explorer.

When I rename the theme folder to all lower case (WPMimic to wpmimic) – I get the error message “Theme not found. Default theme applied.” Am I missing something?

Thanks for your time!

Chris R.

[Ivaylo Draganov]

Some time ago I came across markItUp! – a markup editor written as a jQuery plugin. It can be attached to any textarea, providing editing interface to it. The best thing is that it that interface can be totaly customized and there are many sets that are ready to be downloaded, among which is a bbCode set.

I’ve been using _ck_’s bbCode toolbar plugin but it lacked buttons for adding colors and changing font-size, so I decided to swap it for markItUp. It turned up quite nicely and the code is dead simple. Here it goes:

First, download markiItUp, along with the necessery bbCode set

http://markitup.jaysalvat.com/downloads/download.php?id=releases/latest

http://markitup.jaysalvat.com/downloads/download.php?id=markupsets/bbcode

http://markitup.jaysalvat.com/downloads/download.php?id=addons/bbcode/colors

* the color set is seperate by default, so you’d have to merge it to the bbCode set later

Upload the downloaded files to a directory on your server (my choice was my-plugins/scripts) and include them in your template. You can do that using bb_head in functions.php of the theme (bbPress 1.x) or as a mini plugin (bbPress 0.9.x)

/*

Plugin Name: markItUp! for post form

*/

function mark_it_up_init() {

echo '

<!-- markItUp! scripts -->

<script type="text/javascript" src="' . bb_get_option('uri') . 'my-plugins/scripts/markitup/jquery.markitup.js"></script>

<script type="text/javascript" src="' . bb_get_option('uri') . 'my-plugins/scripts/markitup/sets/bbcode/set.js"></script>

<script type="text/javascript" >

jQuery(document).ready(function() {

jQuery("#post_content").markItUp(mySettings);

});

</script>

<!-- markItUp! stylesheets -->

<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="' . bb_get_option('uri') . 'my-plugins/scripts/markitup/skins/simple/style.css" />

<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="' . bb_get_option('uri') . 'my-plugins/scripts/markitup/sets/bbcode/style.css" />';

}



add_action('bb_head','mark_it_up_init');

* Or you could just add that code to your header.php (without the PHP function wrap-up).

And last but most important – include jQuery before markItUp! in your template. That is best done using <?php bb_enqueue_script('jquery'); ?>

You can see it in action on the forum that I manage:

http://comicsbistro.net/forum/?new=1

Hope that this will be useful to someone Cheers!

[kevinjohngallagher]

Hi Scott,

Just been through this with my WorldCup Fansite Forum after the final on Sunday night, so I’ve a few things to throw your way. I’m sorry about the slow and pedantic manner of this post too; but if it’s this or close yoru forum, we’ll just get through it!

My gut feeling is that this is a plugin and/or host issue. So lets see what we can do here:

First, lots of boring questions I’m afraid:

Is your website using WordPress at all?

If so, have you set up “deep integration”?

Did you do the installing/setup yourself?

Second, ask your host if they’re intentionally throttling you or if it’s automatic?

If it’s happening, ask them what the issue is (I doubt they’ll give you a huge run down but might find a specific issue you didn’t know was the ‘biggie’)

Third, Make backups

Copy a back up of every plugin and your theme on your hardrive somewhere, then log into bbpress and deactivate them all (apart from akismet) and change to the normal default theme.

Fourth, delete all of the plugins and themes.

Fifth, Tell your users

Write a post (then sticky to font) about how your website is going through an “upgrade” and in order to get the latest most secure most awesome software installed you’re having to accept the default theme for half a day.

Sixth, Lets have a look at those SQL queries.

Open up your bb-config.php file and add the following line before the database connection stuff (at around line 33):

define('SAVEQUERIES', true);

Seventh, edit your footer

open up your footer.php in (my-templates/kakumei/) and add this to the very bottom:

if (bb_current_user_can('administrate'))

{

global $bbdb;

print_r($bbdb->queries);

}

Apologies for this, but that last line is going to have something that looks like “->” in it. Please, make this into “-” and then a right arrow (usually shift+period). It’s a bug here on this forum – should be fixed soon.

Eight, load your forum.

At the bottom of your homepage you should see a big list of stuff, which will have lots of SQL commands.

This is a list of all the SQL commands that load, in order, along with the time taken to execute.

Do any of them look to be taking longer than the others?

Copy and paste this list into a text file and save on your desktop (there will be about 15 SQL commands with a few lines around them).

Nine, recount.

Log into your admin area and go to Tools.

Select ONE checkbox at a time and hit “RECOUNT ITEMS”.

Do this for all checkboxes going down the list.

Ten, load your forum (again).

Repeat Step 8.

Compare the results betwen the two text files.

Have any of the “times” come down?

Are any of them above 0.1 seconds?

Are any of them betwen 0.5 and 1 second?

[kevinjohngallagher]

In terms of going forward as a standalone piece of software, yeah, it effectively is.

But the software you have and you can always use, and if it works for you, go for it. I, and all others here, are in the sme boat, and the basics of bbPress are quite brilliant.

I’d be suprised if you should have to change “localhost”, but if there’s no emails comign through from your goDaddy account at all, and you’re using the default mail(), then it’s at their end

Good Luck

[kevinjohngallagher]

That makes sense.

You shouldn’t really need to change anything, thats the joy of the default mail() function. I’m not sure what drove you to make the changes in the first place (this 3+ year old thread isn’t the best place to get data, alot has changed since 2006).

I’d get rid of whatever changes you made, and then test on WordPress.

If that fails, then it’s off to the WordPress support forum for some help.

host said that it’s a script error and they can’t help

Did they happen to give you the error? that will help the WordPress folks sort it quicker

[adammurphy]

Yes that’s a good point – didn’t think of the FTP.

Plugins:

admin add user

allow images

bb-wysisyg editor

force login

hidden forums

wordpress integration

The problems I had on the main site:

My host are insisting that they didn’t touch it, and I certainly didn’t, so I’m not sure if it’s been hacked, or it’s some sort of database glitch or what. On the WP site, all of the categories were reset to “uncategorized” which, for a site running comicpress, which is category-based, was a bit of a disaster. Just as I was panicking, it seemed to find the categories again, and reset the site to 6th July (which I assumed was them rolling back altough they insist they haven’t). I also noticed the category order plugin giving the following error:

WordPress database error: [Can’t create/write to file

‘/tmp/#sql_e93_0.MYI’ (Errcode: 22)]

SHOW COLUMNS FROM wp_terms LIKE ‘term_order’

WordPress database error: [Duplicate column name ‘term_order’]

ALTER TABLE wp_terms ADD term_order INT( 4 ) NULL DEFAULT ‘0’

Again, if this suggests anything to you, or I can provide any more info, I’d be most grateful,

Adam.

[sureshdrim]

Hello All.

I have one more problem with avatars.I have set read,write and execute file attributes on avatars folder through FTP with “apply to all files and subdirectories” option selected.At this stage avatars are displayed properly.But in case a new user uploads his picture or existing user changes his picture,file permission are automatically reset to default due to which avatar is not displayed coz of 403 Forbidden error.So I have to set these permissions again and again.

Is there any permanent solution for this ?

Please help.

[ian.forest]

Are there any websites anywhere offering premium themes for bbPress? I’ve looked around and they all look pretty standard and not so great.

The default one is nice, but I do like the one used on this website but I doubt that is available anywhere.

So, premium themes anyone?

[nacclan]

Just a quick question. I have installed bbPress and I use the Blue theme but I would like to change the white background to a dark gray so the whole page looks the same.

I edited the style.css in the kakumei and found the ‘fff’ color for white and changed it but the large header text is black (default) and looks bad. Is there a main style I am missing to change this so It looks correct?

I would like to completely customize it to the site to blend it in.

Any help is much appr.

[worklife]

I am having the same problem you had when you installed bbPress. The install went well with a message of 1 error and then notified me that “Installation was successful” and I received the Welcome and Login email. However, when I try and login, it defaults to the “install.php” and gives me the message: “bbPress is already installed.”

Can you help?

[_ck_]

I’ve been talking about this for years.

The “performance” tag has a few gems in there I’ve written over time.

bb-benchmark will also show you all the queries via the same method and a few other details, unfortunately the newest version is not in the plugin section right now because of how bbpress.org is broken.

Part of the problem on the WP side is many times the plugins do not set their options to autoload (and have a whole bunch of options). I believe bbPress 1.x now has the same problem (it was avoided in 0.9 but re-introduced with backpress).

I have a mini-plugin somewhere for 1.x to load all options with one query.

Some setups can take hours to get the queries down, it’s exhausting

Next you should notice that WP 3.0 + bbPress 1.x takes nearly 1 megabytes of code per instance and in some cases won’t even run on shared hosts because it goes over the PHP ini default setting of 32MB during runtime.

If you are using a tag cloud, my “hot tags plus” will cache the complex query for the tag cloud and all rendering becomes static.

ps. the real answer is not to do deep integration – just make a clone theme for bbpress, it’s worth the effort – the good thing about that is if WP is down, bbpress can still run

[rajada]

I’m relatively new to this, so bare with me…

I’ve got a WordPress site integrated with a BB Press forum (one login for both) and I have created a my-plugins directory in my base directory and the permissions on it is 755 numerically. Even though I believe everything is set up correctly, and the forum itself works absolutely perfect, a total of 0 of my installed plugins show up on the administrative plugins list (default ones show up still). If I am not mistaken, someone mentioned that BB Press is not a plugin in itself, but the directory is in fact in my plugins folder.

In other words, I install my BB plugins to:

ftp and website address stuff…/wp-content/plugins/bbpress/my-plugins

Every file in my-plugins is 755, and no one else seems to have this exact problem when they use plugins. So does anyone know what exactly is going on?

WordPress version is the most up to date one, I’m using the default green theme (for the forum), and these should easily be compatible plugins.

[ethanthekiwi]

During the bbPress install it told me that I had to create a bb-config.php file and upload it to the root directory. I just copied the text, created the file and dropped it in without looking at it (I am not very familiar with php yet). Here is what it looked like on my server before:

<?php

/**

* The base configurations of bbPress.

*

* This file has the following configurations: MySQL settings, Table Prefix,

* Secret Keys and bbPress Language. You can get the MySQL settings from your

* web host.

*

* This file is used by the installer during installation.

*

* @package bbPress

*/

// ** MySQL settings – You can get this info from your web host ** //

/** The name of the database for bbPress */

define( ‘BBDB_NAME’, ‘bbpress’ );

/** MySQL database username */

define( ‘BBDB_USER’, ‘root’ );

/** MySQL database password */

define( ‘BBDB_PASSWORD’, ‘There was a password here’ );

/** MySQL hostname */

define( ‘BBDB_HOST’, ‘localhost’ );

/** Database Charset to use in creating database tables. */

define( ‘BBDB_CHARSET’, ‘utf8’ );

/** The Database Collate type. Don’t change this if in doubt. */

define( ‘BBDB_COLLATE’, ” );

/**#@+

* Authentication Unique Keys.

*

* Change these to different unique phrases!

* You can generate these using the {@link https://api.wordpress.org/secret-key/1.1/bbpress/ WordPress.org secret-key service}

*

* @since 1.0

*/

define( ‘BB_AUTH_KEY’, ‘put your unique phrase here’ );

define( ‘BB_SECURE_AUTH_KEY’, ‘put your unique phrase here’ );

define( ‘BB_LOGGED_IN_KEY’, ‘put your unique phrase here’ );

define( ‘BB_NONCE_KEY’, ‘put your unique phrase here’ );

/**#@-*/

/**

* bbPress Database Table prefix.

*

* You can have multiple installations in one database if you give each a unique

* prefix. Only numbers, letters, and underscores please!

*/

$bb_table_prefix = ‘bb_’;

/**

* bbPress Localized Language, defaults to English.

*

* Change this to localize bbPress. A corresponding MO file for the chosen

* language must be installed to a directory called “my-languages” in the root

* directory of bbPress. For example, install de.mo to “my-languages” and set

* BB_LANG to ‘de’ to enable German language support.

*/

define( ‘BB_LANG’, ” );

?>

There were no spaces on or before the first or last lines. This is what it looked like (aside from me removing the password). I noticed the ‘put your unique phrase here’ deal and went ahead and filled those in following the instructions in the comment before it. Then I went to the page again and go the same error.

@chrishajer

I didn’t set the server up, but I believe it is a VMware WordPress application http://www.turnkeylinux.org/wordpress. I am afraid I don’t know where the php error log would be. The warnings are on the page itself not in a popup or anything. The url of the page with the warnings is mysite.org/bbpress/bb-login.php. I hope that helps.

[Ben L.]

<?php

/*

Plugin Name: My Profile Keys

*/



function my_profile_keys( $a ) {

$a['my_key_id'] = array(

true,                  // Required

'ID number',           // Label

'text',                // Type

'',                    // Value

''                     // Default when not set

);

return $a;

}



add_filter( 'get_profile_keys', 'my_profile_keys' );

Untested, but should work. (Change the lt thing to a less than sign – the bbPress.org forums have some kind of glitch).

[_ck_]

The directory is above site root by default but you can put it anywhere if you don’t care about security. The way WP does it is completely insecure on shared servers. Any chmod 777 folder under the webroot is a beautiful target for evil hackers.

A small percentage of people still seem to have problems with the install routine that is supposed to run upon activation and create the table. I had to use a workaround because of a bug with 0.8 and IIs users but that may break it for other people, especially with 1.0

you can try replacing the bb_register_activation_hook line with the conventional line that might finally be working correctly under 1.x

bb_register_plugin_activation_hook(__FILE__, 'bb_attachments_install');

Keep in mind I have not updated bb-attachment in over a year due to a lack of donations, so feel free to write your own. Keep in mind whatever you write will not be compatible/necessary with the eventual version of bbpress that runs as a WP plugin.

[justkeepblogging]

Hey Kevin,

Thanks for your help. It was the permissions. All is working fine now.

[kevinjohngallagher]

First, check you’ve uploaded the theme to the right place.

If i physically go to the theme files, they’re not there on your server.

http://jeffreydeanmorganunlimited.com/community/bbpress/my-templates/mistymorning_bb/style.css returns a 404 error.

Second make sure that you’ve got the permissions of the folder set correctly:

The permissions of the my-templates folder should be 0755. Same for the folder the theme is in as well. Files in the theme folder should be 0644

Shout back if that doesn’t fix it.