Top 1000 gets updated with Top 100, sometime in April, maybe end of March if I have time, not before then. Look for the Firefox 3.1 release date as a guide since 3.1beta has a bug I need to wait for them to fix.
Hi!
When the top 1000 list is updated?
Let’s put it this way, if you have decent income from a forum of that size, you should not waste another minute your time (or anyone else’s) and just pay for vbulletin and the extra hardware it will need at that size (dedicated mysql and email servers). Seriously, it’s the best for a reason, but you will have to pay for everything once you go down that path, addons, etc.
If you are trying to cut corners and do it on the cheap, bbPress 0.9 is lightweight enough to handle it (wordpress.org has many times the traffic you do) though a dedicated mysql server can always help, and keep in mind bbPress has no caching plugins available yet. The money you save will be spent in hours of customization and tuning and creating your own fixes for problems.
You can always turn to lighttpd or nginx if you know your stuff and have days to fiddle with it or the almost instant installing litespeed, if you want an apache replacement that will double the capacity of your server.
The only cloud on the horizon is bbPress 1.0 as I estimate it in some cases will be roughly 30-50% slower than 0.9 (with still no caching plugins) and at this time roughly half of my plugins will not work with it (and won’t for quite some time, assume the end of 2009 at the soonest).
After 1.0 stabilizes and someone ports WP Super Cache to it, that will change the picture again but that kind of caching only helps visitors that aren’t logged in.
Oh and bbPress isn’t going to solve your search problems. It will only make it worse. bbPress’s search is completely non-indexed, and has virtual no options. My Super Search plugin might eventually cache searches but that’s not going to solve the problem of 1000 users searching for different things at once. I mentioned http://sphinxsearch.com a few months back and amazingly they are now using it on wordpress.com so there is hope that one day there will be a plugin for wordpress/bbpress to use it for searches on larger sites which will completely solve the performance problem.
Your groups of forums will require bbPress 1.0 and the downside of that again is half the plugins for bbPress 0.9 will not work with it. If you do install 1.0, don’t install anything more than 1.0 alpha 5 to use with my plugins.
ps. the top 100 list hasn’t been updated in 90 days and many of those forums are much bigger now – next update will be sometime after Firefox 3.1 is released
Hi,
1st of all, thanks for this screen-cast.
I have followed your screen-cast and succeeded with integrating WP 2.7.1 and BB 1.0 alpha 6 in different directories.
http://mydom.com/wp/ (WordPress)
http://mydom.com/board/ (bbPress)
My issue is that logging in and out is working fine as long as WP handles log-in and out! And not the other way when logging out from BB.
Issue 1:
When I log-in to my WP and go to BB log-in works fine, also the other way from BB to WP.
But if I log out fron BB and go back to WP – I’m logged out but the META link is not updated and WP thinks I’m still logged in (which I’m not!)
How can I make the log-out work through BB aswell.
Issue 2:
Registering through BB gives me no role inside WP!
I have bbPress integration plug-in (wp) installed and everything else is working fine! Roles are made inside BB-WP integration just like in the screen-cast.
Can someone please help!
Thanks.
“Different people like blogs than like forums, and topics in blogs rarely are formatted in the way you would for a forum. Your mileage may vary, of course, but a beautifully crafted blog post, in my experience, is a tl;dr post on a forum.” – Ipstenu
That’s a good point Ipstenu, but it’s being managed already. Here are some examples of political blogs on the left and the right linking forums to blogs:
SALON (political left)
– Blog posts are presented like forum topics here: http://open.salon.com/cover.php?view_sort=recent
– The authors’ blogs are listed here: http://open.salon.com/people.php
Pajamas Media (political right)
– Blog posts are presented like forum topics here: http://pajamasmedia.com/
– The authors’ blogs are listed here: http://pajamasmedia.com/pajamasxpress/
I don’t know how much of that’s developed in house or updated manually, but I can’t imagine a better system for both bloggers an forum members.
tl;dr? That’s fine. The bloggers won’t suffer if most of the forum members don’t read a post that they’d have never known existed anyway, and the forum won’t suffer from a few long topics being posted to a list of relevant chatter.
Off the top of my head, I can’t come up with an example of where blogs and forums that are focused on an identical narrow subject would integrate poorly. The focus just has to be well defined, or at least it can’t vary between the blogs and the forum. If it does, direct the incompatible blogs to a new forum (or to no forum). That’s just part of community management.
as far as i can see, by studying the code, wordpress has introduced a salt for hashing the passwords since 2.5
bbpress (my version is 0.9.0.4) has not updated it’s functions to include this salt.
the alpha release of bbpress 1.0 seems to take care of this problem, but the file structure, as far as i can see is completely different from the older versions, so a simple copy & paste wouldn’t do.
maybe the stable 1.0 release will take care of this issue, but since then (i don’t recommend using the alpha version on production web sites) i will try to modify the pluggable.php file of bbpress 0.9.0.4 in order to allow the usage of salts.
i’ll be back these days with further details.
“I’m assuming you’re talking about something like this:
“Joe and Jane have blogs on your MU site.
Joe posts ‘My life’ in Joe’s Blog.
Jane posts ‘My dog’ in Jane’s Blog.
Both posts appear in the forum ‘Blogs'”
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Ipstenu, Yes,that would be a good start. Better yet, the bloggers should be able to select what forum their blog posts also appear in.
I’m not sure if two blog posts rarely having the same title in a forum would be a big problem. I’m guessing that posts are indexed by some kind of messageID and that I could post two topics to this forum with the same title now, but I haven’t looked at the data structure.
I agree that copying posts from blogs to forums and back would be a lousy hack. Ideally they should share the same pool of messages in the database and just present alternate views of them, but I’d settle for such a hack for now. (I’m not a WP or even a PHP guy by the way).
The purpose of this is to solve the blog readership “chicken or egg” problem. Why regularly spend hours creating exceptional blog post when there are so few readers? Why read a blog when it’s so rarely updated or the author spends so little time on the posts?
This system would allow people who typically read forums (like this one) to scan through both the forum’s post and related blog posts. And it would give new bloggers an audience drawn from both forum readers and readers of other blogs on the same site.
There’s a lot more to this, but that’s the basics.
in topic.php in your theme folder use
<?php bb_topic_admin(); ?> instead of the ‘<?php topic_delete_link(); ?> <?php topic_close_link(); ?> <?php topic_sticky_link(); ?>
<?php topic_move_dropdown(); ?>’ (line 55)
Come to think of it I may have updated a core file.
and topic-tags.php becomes
<div id="topic-tags">
<p><?php _e('Tags:'); ?></p>
<?php if ( bb_get_topic_tags() ) : ?>
<?php bb_list_tags(); ?>
<?php else : ?>
<p><?php printf(__('No <a href="%s">tags</a> yet.'), bb_get_tag_page_link() ); ?></p>
<?php endif; ?>
<?php tag_form(); ?>
</div>
(just replace the entire page)
This does break the improvements I suggested in https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/list-all-tags#post-23142 though. Although I have edited the core files (which is not encouraged) to bring back the functionality of showing who posted a tag to moderators.
The spammers figured out how to defeat the old Human Test so I updated it:
https://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/human-test/
and I will be updating it again later this month to make it even harder
pagerank is only updated every several months.
Of course things will break when you use the alpha (which you failed to mention).
I’ve updated it to 0.0.2 to deal with the mess in bbPress 1.0
Um, forum-moderators does exactly what you want, but it probably needs to be updated for 0.9 and 1.0
I have an unreleased plugin called “extra privileges” that does something like what you are asking but it won’t be released anytime soon.
You can see how filters on bb_current_user_can work by studying this mini-plugin I wrote to allow users to delete their own posts
function delete_own_post($retvalue, $capability, $args) {
global $bb_current_user, $bb_post;
if ($capability=="delete_post" && $bb_current_user->ID && $bb_post && $bb_post->post_id && $bb_post->post_id ==intval($args[1]) &&
$bb_post->poster_id && $bb_post->poster_id==$bb_current_user->ID && bb_current_user_can( 'edit_post', $bb_post->post_id) {return true;} // lots and lots of double checks
return $retvalue;
}
add_filter('bb_current_user_can', 'delete_own_post',10,3);
or simplier version:
function delete_own_post($retvalue, $capability, $args) {
if ($capability=="delete_post") {return bb_current_user_can( 'edit_post', $args[1]);}
return $retvalue;
}
add_filter('bb_current_user_can', 'delete_own_post',10,3);
I fixed it, turns out i had not updated my config file from my wordpress upgrade so i was using an old config file, when changing i just edited the file and added the secret key setting and it seems to be working great with 0.9
When unbanning people (setting them back to ‘member’) it states their new role within the admin, but when they try and log in they are still banned.
Manually re-setting their password solves the issue.
I presume this is a simple issue of the role not being updated properly. The problem does not exist when changing from ‘inactive’.
In 0.9.04 this is. Not tested it in 1.0 yet.
Just updated a few little things.
There’s stuff that still needs tweaking, but otherwise I consider this a fully integrated install with custom template and heavily modified via plug-ins.
Do not use the Private Forums plugin, it has not been updated in awhile and has bugs.
Use my Hidden Forums plugin instead. The code above is not sufficient in itself.
I’d say try the nightly build ( https://bbpress.org/nightly-builds/bbpress-latest.zip ) but I’m not really sure when that’s updated anymore…
The SVN is open to be downloaded by anyone.
I opened that a half a month ago 
But thanks, _ck_! It works now. I updated my ticket but … why isn’t it picking that up from the default template?
I just received this error on the install screen just after it tells you it cannot find a config file. I changed my old one to config.old.php (received error) then to bb-config.old.php. (received error)
Fatal error: Call to undefined function backpress_get_option() in /nfs/c03/h04/mnt/57391/domains/willclan4food.net/html/bbpress/bb-includes/backpress/functions.core.php on line 412
I then just had a funny feeling so I just changed the file name back to bb-config.php and when I went to my forums it said I needed a update.. updated and all seems well.
ok, this problem is now back, after I updated to wp 2.7 and bbpress 0.9.0.3.
now my feed doesn’t validate because of the date:
Sorry
This feed does not validate.
*
line 18, column 39: pubDate must be an RFC-822 date-time: Fr, 02 Jan 2009 10:57:20 +0000 (35 occurrences) [help]
<pubDate>Fr, 02 Jan 2009 10:57:20 +0000</pubDate></blockqoute>
and the rss widget doesn’t update again with new forum postings.
Seems maybe the core should be updated to work around this eh?
I have the same setup, running 2.7 and bbpress alpha 4. About half of my users got roles, half didn’t. And we’re talking about 15,000 plus users with no roles!
When I create a user in WordPress, the user has no role in bbpress and I get the errors above when trying to edit the user with no role. Even after logging in, there is still no role.
Hmmm…
Is there a way I can add the updated files from the latest trunk that you are talking about? I am not technical enough to understand svn.
Thanks!
This theme has just been updated and you can get the latest version (v0.3) from here:
http://ericlbarnes.com/projects/inove-for-bbpress/
Changes Include:
1. Moved search to nav bar.
2. Added support for js sub navigation
3. Moved login to sidebar
4. Added bbpress logo to footer. Thanks to Paul.
I’ve updated the plugin to cope with forums using blocked and inactive users as well.
function inactive_to_member() {
$userID = bb_get_current_user_info( 'id' );
$user_obj = new BP_User( $userID );
$user = bb_get_user( bb_get_user_id( $userID ) );
if(empty($user->capabilities)) {
$user_obj->set_role('member');
}
}
add_action ('bb_head', 'inactive_to_member', 5, 0);
The only flaw I can find with this plugin is that it won’t update the user’s role until the next time the user refreshes the page. I guess it could be fixed with a simple redirect/refresh in the plugin however.
@staats – If you have access to your SQL database (like through phpMyAdmin), it’s much the same as moving any databased app, like WordPress
The first set of directions I put in the post above are mostly right. I’ve updated them here since there’s a couple things that should be explained differently than my copy replace from WordPress’s directions (why reinvent the wheel?). If you’ve got WP and BB integrated you’ll have to make all the changes to the files (wp-config and bb-config AND the admin settings changes) BEFORE you backup your database.
First, backup your database – https://codex.wordpress.org/Backing_Up_Your_Database (obviously the bb database, not the wp one for your case) No matter WHAT you want this copy! If you screw everything up (and we’ve all done that) you need a fall back plan.
- Download a copy of the main bbpress files from your OLD forum to your hard drive and edit b-config.php to suit the new server.
- Go back to your OLD forum and go to settings and change the bbPress address (URL) to that of your new site. (You may want to change your email addy here, but you don’t have to just yet).
- IF you’ve integrated bbPress and WordPress, go to your WordPress Integration page and change any domain information there that has changed.
- Download your database (but keep the old backup just in case), upload this new database and the copy of the forum files with the edited bb-config.php to your new server.
Again, if WordPress and bbPress are integrated and sharing a database, do steps 1-3 for bbpress, and then steps 1 and 2 here, and THEN do the last DB download step just once.
And if it’s all confusing … yeah, it’s a lot of fruit to be juggling at once.
