[sa05admin]

How upto date is the half a million posts and 100,000 users on the WordPress Support forums as described in the About pages – Can you give that statistic a date in time or keep it updated with a time of last update or even a pretty graph, please, pretty please.

[hruser]

Hi All,

Havnt seen any tutorials before doing integration, i guess thats the blunder i did..hence this problem.

Problem: Cant login to bbpress admin, after WP integration, get message that User doesnt exist. However i CAN login to my WP admin without problems.

Versions

WP :2.7.1

BBpress :0.9.0.4

What i did: from bbpress integrate wordpress section i filled out following only, nothing esle

1. Gave my WP url

2. Gave my WP blog url

3. Gave my WP secret key

4. Gave the WP table prefix as: wp –

thats all dint do anything else. and i UPDATED these details.

Immediately got logged out. and now cannot login to forum.mysite.com/bb-login.php (bbpress forum is in subdomain)

What else i did: i generated new password thinking its a password issue. No luck

Also installed Fix Admin plugin in Plugin folder of WP from Cpanel, as soon as i installed it took me to login page of BBPress, and i tried logging in, No Luck. User doesnt exist message.

Error seen on left hand TOP side of bbpress login page when login fails:

bbPress database error: [Table ‘saphruse_bbp01.wp_users’ doesn’t exist]

SELECT ID FROM wp_users WHERE user_login = ‘admin’

bbPress database error: [Table ‘saphruse_bbp01.wp_users’ doesn’t exist]

SELECT * FROM wp_users WHERE user_login = ‘admin’

Please help.

Thanks a mill.

[pierrottorreip]

Thanks for the reply!

Alpha 6

Here are some variables that might help…

– I updated recently from 0.9.0.4 (although I also updated my other site and it’s fine)

– I integrated cookies with WordPress

– not limited to Keymaster accounts

– works fine with Safari but not with the latest Firefox

I hadn’t integrated the database yet as I am running three installations on one site and was looking for the best way to do so (I’ve since decided that I’m going to keep them seperate).

My site is new so I’m not too bothered by the thought of starting the database over unless there is a quick fix for this…

[_ck_]

bbPress doesn’t yet have the ease of use that WordPress has

but it can be customized in pretty much the same way.

The problem is bbPress is much younger than WordPress so there is virtually no documentation and it’s also evolving so any changes you make today may have to be updated somewhat in a few months.

The best bet is to study existing plugins and themes however if you are not a coder that may be problematic.

You got this far though, I dare say you probably have the required determination to get it done.

[kahnoya]

SOLVED!

After troubleshooting this problem for the last 24 hours, I noticed in the screencast that sambauers installed WordPress 2.7.0 and not 2.7.1 the most updated version to this date. So I did a fresh install with WP 2.7.0 and bbPress 1.06 Alpha exactly the way he said. AND IT WORKED ON THE FIRST TRY!

[DTI]

Thanks for help.

After I followed this info in /plugins/topic/instant-password/

I have updated the password at ‘user_pass’ with new one and changed user status using 1 at ‘user_status’ in table ‘bb_users’.

When I user new password, I still can’t login that show me “incorrect password”.

[bforeste]

I was able to resolve my problem.

Apparently, when I reset what I thought was an irrelevant password on my ISP – my ‘mySQL’ user password changed as well.

I reset my password, and updated my bb-config.php file with the new info – and all of my bbPress users are now back again.

Now – does anyone know how I can encrypt my password again in the file?

[kevinjohngallagher]

You know, there’s no good way to say this…

But wouldn’t that sort of table (and i think it’s a great idea) be classed as documentation?

And if so, does anyone expect to see it on the BBpress website? Heck the BBpulp.org wiki that Sam set up a year ago so that we’d have documentation hasn’t been updated for the last 8 releases…

[Null]

Update:

Tested some stuff. I have this now:

function bbport_location() {

if (substr($_SERVER["REQUEST_URI"],strrpos($_SERVER["REQUEST_URI"],"/")+1) == "view.php?view=port"):

return "port-page";

endif;

}



add_filter( 'get_bb_location', 'bbport_location' );

The problem is that it doesn’t return port-page. If I echo get_bb_location tis will still show: view-page instead of port-page. So why isn”t it updated? Why isn’t it returned?

[copperblade]

bbPress

I really really wish he would put it in bbPress subversion. Would be a lot easier for me to make sure the plugin is updated.

[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

A functions.php should be like this:

<?php



function bb_nonce_ays( $action ) {

$title = __( 'bbPress Failure Notice' );

$html .= "t<div id='message' class='updated fade'>nt<p>" . wp_specialchars( bb_explain_nonce( $action ) ) . "</p>nt<p>";

if ( wp_get_referer() )

$html .= "" . __( 'Please try again.' ) . "";

$html .= "</p>nt</div>n";

$html .= "</body>n</html>";

bb_die( $html, $title );

}



?>

[wpitn2shape]

I haven’t edited anything, before even installing I get the unexpected t string error and this

bb-includes/functions.php on line 2256

It’s a blank line, here’s what’s above it:

function bb_nonce_ays( $action ) {

$title = __( ‘bbPress Failure Notice’ );

$html .= “t<div id=’message’ class=’updated fade’>nt<p>” . wp_specialchars( bb_explain_nonce( $action ) ) . “</p>nt<p>”;

if ( wp_get_referer() )

$html .= “” . __( ‘Please try again.’ ) . ““;

$html .= “</p>nt</div>n”;

$html .= “</body>n</html>”;

bb_die( $html, $title );

}

[wiseacre]

I have a general question. How updated language files can be uploaded to

http://svn.automattic.com/bbpress-i18n/

?

[johnhiler]

Hey biodrama – you may want to check that you have the latest version of Human Test!. Some spammers found a workaround to an older version, but an updated version has proved more resilient… once I dl’d the latest version, the spammers disappeared!

[kevinjohngallagher]

Txanny, it’s hard to say as you’re talking about 6 months down the line, but if it was me i’d leave BBpress until the end of your development cycle. We’ve no idea what the 1.0 alpha is going to look like in 6 months, as the next release is going to break 2/3 of all plugins and none are being updated for some time, and _ck_ herself has stated she’s not fixing any of hers until 1.1 .

Given that 1.0alpha came out in September 16th last year and isn’t anywhere close to being out of alpha just now (some 6 months later), I’d suggest not making a decision on which BBpress version for quite some time yet, at least until 1.0alpha7 and we can see what the plugin fall out is.

If it was me though, i’d go with 0.9. it works well, the plugins work, development on it can continue, and it’s stable.

[deadlyhifi]

(profile.php in theme folder)

My users were asking for the ability to jump to the last post on the ‘User Activity’ area within their profile page. So I amended the page to use tables like the favorites listings do with two columns >

TOPIC > DETAILS

topic name > You replied 2 weeks ago. No replies since.

<?php bb_get_header(); ?>



<h3 class="bbcrumb"><a href="<?php bb_uri(); ?>"><?php bb_option('name'); ?></a> &raquo; <?php _e('Profile') ?></h3>



<div class="vcard">



<?php if ( $avatar = bb_get_avatar( $user->ID ) ) : ?>

<div id="useravatar"><?php echo $avatar; ?></div>

<?php unset($avatar); endif; ?>

<h2 id="userlogin"><span class="fn"><?php echo get_user_display_name( $user->ID ); ?></span> <small>(<span class="nickname"><?php echo get_user_name( $user->ID ); ?></span>)</small></h2>



<?php if ( $updated ) : ?>

<div class="notice">

<p><?php _e('Profile updated'); ?>. <a href="<?php profile_tab_link( $user_id, 'edit' ); ?>"><?php _e('Edit again &raquo;'); ?></a></p>

</div>

<?php elseif ( $user_id == bb_get_current_user_info( 'id' ) ) : ?>

<p>

<?php _e('This is how your profile appears to a logged in member.'); ?>



<?php if (bb_current_user_can( 'edit_user', $user->ID )) : ?>

<?php printf(__('You may <a href="%1$s">edit this information</a>.'), attribute_escape( get_profile_tab_link( $user_id, 'edit' ) ) ); ?>

<?php endif; ?>

</p>



<?php if (bb_current_user_can( 'edit_favorites_of', $user->ID )) : ?>

<p><?php printf(__('You can also <a href="%1$s">manage your favorites</a> and subscribe to your favorites’ <a href="%2$s"><abbr title="Really Simple Syndication">RSS</abbr> feed</a>.'), attribute_escape( get_favorites_link() ), attribute_escape( get_favorites_rss_link() )); ?></p>

<?php endif; ?>

<?php endif; ?>



<?php bb_profile_data(); ?>



</div>



<h3 id="useractivity"><?php _e('User Activity') ?></h3>



<div id="user-replies" class="user-recent">

<h4><?php _e('Recent Replies'); ?></h4>



<?php if ( $posts ) : ?>



<table id="favorites">

<tr>

<th><?php _e('Topic'); ?></th>

<th><?php _e('Details'); ?></th>

</tr>



<?php foreach ($posts as $bb_post) : $topic = get_topic( $bb_post->topic_id ) ?>

<tr<?php alt_class('replies'); ?>>

<td><a href="<?php topic_link(); ?>"><?php topic_title(); ?></a></td>

<td class="num">

<a href="<?php topic_last_post_link(); ?>">

<?php if ( $user->ID == bb_get_current_user_info( 'id' ) ) printf(__('You replied %s ago.'), bb_get_post_time()); else printf(__('Latest reply %s ago.'), bb_get_post_time()); ?>

<span class="freshness"><?php

if ( bb_get_post_time( 'timestamp' ) < get_topic_time( 'timestamp' ) )

printf(__('Latest reply %s ago'), get_topic_time());

else

_e('No replies since.');

?></span>

</a>

</td>

</tr>

<?php endforeach; ?>

</table>



<?php else : if ( $page ) : ?>

<p><?php _e('No more replies.') ?></p>

<?php else : ?>

<p><?php _e('No replies yet.') ?></p>

<?php endif; endif; ?>



</div>



<div id="user-threads" class="user-recent">



<h4><?php _e('Topics Started') ?></h4>

<?php if ( $topics ) : ?>



<table id="favorites">

<tr>

<th><?php _e('Topic'); ?></th>

<th><?php _e('Details'); ?></th>

</tr>



<?php foreach ($topics as $topic) : ?>

<tr<?php alt_class('topics'); ?>>

<td><a href="<?php topic_link(); ?>"><?php topic_title(); ?></a></td>

<td class="num">

<a href="<?php topic_last_post_link(); ?>">

<?php printf(__('Started: %s ago.'), get_topic_start_time()); ?>

<span class="freshness"><?php

if ( get_topic_start_time( 'timestamp' ) < get_topic_time( 'timestamp' ) )

printf(__('Recent reply: %s ago.'), get_topic_time());

else

_e('No replies.');

?></span>

</a>

</td>

</tr>

<?php endforeach; ?>

</table>



<?php else : if ( $page ) : ?>

<p><?php _e('No more topics posted.') ?></p>

<?php else : ?>

<p><?php _e('No topics posted yet.') ?></p>

<?php endif; endif;?>

</div>



<div class="nav">

<?php profile_pages(); ?>

</div>



<?php bb_get_footer(); ?>

[_ck_]

andyimages, to use WP 2.7 with bbPress 0.9 you need one of the two plugin solutions now updated in the first post. Changing the cookie path is not enough, you have to change the cookie method entirely.

[_ck_]

Technically the plugin has been abandoned by the original author.

I don’t think the download can be disabled but Sam or Michael might be able to move it on the SVN from the trunk directory to a tag where the extend section would make a link that would fail to download so that would prevent people from blindly installing it.

The plugin was written after bbPress .7 had just updated to .8 so there were few other plugins available for the author to model some security against. It’s design is a little dated and spread out across several files makes it hard to maintain (a similar problem that the avatar upload plugin shares).

[johnhiler]

I just noticed that the unpatched PM plugin is still available in the plugins section, where it’s listed as one of the most popular downloads.

Is it possible to disable the download for now, until the code is updated with the security patch?

[_ck_]

First post updated to reflect the two new plugins available to allow WP 2.6, 2.7 or 2.8 to work with bbPress 0.9

[clyk]

the author of the plugin helped me and updated the plugin so you will see the post in the notification!

thanks a lot!

[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

@kevinjohngallagher – I got it from the horse’s mouth. She posted it on her blog and in her Blog Herald post last Friday.

WordPress News, scroll down to bbPress On Fire.

And yeah, the ‘follow the blog’ was partly tongue-in-cheek (I know updates are sparse), but also serious (as it is the best place to get ‘this has changed’ news). The blog will be updated when there’s news to update. And if there are long gaps between posts, well, it’s not a dev-blog. The forums are kind of the dev blog right now.

[kevinjohngallagher]

I write this in response to the growing posts and their ever-increasing angrier responses from moderators, to people who are simply asking for clarification of (mis-)information.

The problem we have, as a community, is that we have no communication nor project management involved with BBpress.

COMMUNICATION

A great example would be:

How many more ALPHA’s before BETA?

_ck_ rightly points out, and then gets angry at the poster, people are constantly asking the same questions. The bit _ck_ misses is that they are not pointless to a lot of people, or indeed one person, even if they are pointless to her. The point that hasn’t seen to be grasped by Sam/Moderators is that have an external facing Trac website that says one thing, when another is true, which is why people are asking the same questions over and over.

Instead of getting angry at people, why not change the date on Trac?? Even if you put it at 1st Jan 2010, it’s at least in the future and closer to being realistic than 1.0Beta 2 months ago.

I brought this up in October, and then again in December, and now again in February, but people who are new to this project or maybe not as involved ask _ck_ get their information from the website; but this info has been wrong for over 5 months. Which is why people are asking for clarification!

If you give people wrong/bad/out of date information, you have to accept that they will ask questions about it on the forum. It’s been the nature of humans throughout history, and we’re not going to change simply because it’s BBpress (sadly).

Given that the issue could be fixed by a BBpress person (not sure about user roles here so don’t want to presume that a forum mod could do it or if we need to wait for Sam); maybe we should stop being rude to people and fix it?

<u>A further example:</u>

It’s great that _ck_ knows that alpha 7 will break her plugins; but what about everyone else? Where is the blog post? Where is the forum post by Sam? Where is the sticky? Where is the announcement? Etc.

After much searching it turns out that 3 weeks ago _ck_ made a post about it, which has been off the front page of the forums section for the last 15 days. Brilliantly meaning that if you didn’t read the BBpress forums for a 5 day period at the start of February for any reason, then you won’t know about these massive changes. At the risk of appearing sarcastic, does anyone else think that maybe this should be the sort of thing we should Sticky/announce/keep on front page? Shouldn’t this sort of thing come from Sam?

But regardless it just re-emphasises the fact that communication about BBpress is close to non-existant.

TRAC

Devs and Moderators tell us to use Trac, and then are surprised that people are confused about the roadmap saying that Beta comes out 01/08/08 .

Either update Trac so that people don’t get confused, or inform people in some another way (which is a little redundant as that is what the Trac roadmap is for).

PROJECT MANAGEMENT

It somewhat goes hand in hand with the communication aspect, but as any developer knows, rushing head first into coding with no long term view quickly becomes fruitless.

As a community, and i’m in no way saying that Sam answers to us (really want to make that clear), we have no freaking idea what the heck is going on at any given time. We’re either given an ever changing answer by a moderator, or we’re told that Sam will tell us (like the voice behind the curtain), or we’re left with the (wrong) info on the website.

Every change comes out of no-where.

We have no idea what the short, medium and long terms goals are.

As much as this software is ‘free’, anyone planning to use it on a website at least wants to plan a little in advance.

It’s very difficult to want to help/take pride/give back to an open source project when we’re constantly told “it’s ready when it’s ready stop asking” – and in fact shows a total lack of project management and control.

Who runs the BBpress project?

Do they know/can they answer:

– how many scheduled man hours until alpha 7?

– are people assigned to work on it, or have they been moved elsewhere?

– what is the testing time on alpha 7?

– how long and we holding open bug acceptance for alpha 7?

– what is the due date for alpha 7?

– what is the likelihood of hitting that date?

– what are the dependant factors?

– what impact does alpha 7 have on existing installations?

– have the testers been informed of this?

– have the contributors been informed of this?

– what potential conflicts are there between current versions and alpha 7?

I’m not specifically looking for answers btw, as I said before Sam doesn’t answer to us, but I’m not sure I believe that ANYONE related with this project can answer those questions, and that is really really worrying.

IT IS FREE – THEREFORE IT IS OK.

Free is good, free we like.

Free means we accept bugs.

Free means we accept it’s not ideal.

Free means we know we wont get a 100% fit to what we need.

Free doesn’t mean we accept no communication.

Free doesn’t mean we accept what communication we get being wrong.

Free doesn’t mean we accept no management.

Free doesn’t mean we should get slapped down for asking perfectly legitimate and reasonable questions.

Free doesn’t mean we should accept instant yet wide sweeping changes.

Free doesn’t mean we should accept a total lack of respect.

AUTOMATTIC IS NOT A COMMERCIAL COMPANY

It is.

No, really… it is, so can we please stop saying that it’s not. Sam, while a loveable rogue to be sure (and he’s very cute in his picture), he is not fucking Ghandi – he does this for a wage.

Automattic is not building BBpress out of the goodness of their hearts to save all the wee orphans of the world, they’re a company making a profit and paying people’s wages.

Lets drop the humanitarian line when someone makes a good point and the moderators want to slap it down, eh? Or am I wrong, is BBpress ending world hunger as we speak? No? ok, maybe lets stop this one then. Just a thought.

HOW TO FIX THIS.

At the risk of opening up an old wound, I made a list at Christmas time (the oh so fun Facebook thread).

Either pause development on BBpress 1.0alpha7 for a week, or engage someone else to do it but:

<u>Fix the website. </u> Seriously, spend time going through each static page (there are 20 of them) removing all the bogus/wrong/out of date information. Some pages are fine, some are really really out of date. Given how much has changed with BBpress since WP2.5 came out, if you haven’t updated a page since that time then you know it’s wrong before reading.

<u>Blog more. </u> Not in a twitter “I am eating an apple” way, but you’ve made 5 posts in over 6 months (and 3 of them were within 3 days of each other). That development blog is our window into the BBpress development. It says “hey, this project ain’t dead”; instead all it does now is say “we released this bit of software on this date”. It’s not a blog, there’s no info other than release dates of software that don’t work anymore (for the most part).

<u>Extend / Plugin section. </u> This drastically needs an overhaul. There needs to be an option to filter out plugins that either don’t work or haven’t been updated to the latest release. Lets be honest, some of these plugins are 2 years old, and as soon as you click into them that’s the first stat you see.

<u>Download section. </u> Kinda/probably/should/maybe say that if you download the latest version it won’t work with a wordpress install form the last 9 months. Even though it’s from the same company. And it says it does work in the About page. And says it again on the Integration page. Yeah, we should probably write the truth somewhere or people will keep asking…

<u>Trac. </u> Lets update Trac. If someone has an understanding of the project to the level that they can answer the Project Manager 101 questions above, then why not put some of that info into Trac? I’m confident (though it’s just my opinion) that people are more motivated to fix bugs if we know there are X outstanding before the next alpha, rather than a huge list that has be fixed in an unknown amount of time.

<u>Development documentation. </u> A tough one this, and time consuming. I get that, I really do. But it makes helping out really difficult. As someone with rusty PHP coding skills (I‘ve been a BA far too long), I find Navigating bbpress to be a pain, and while I understand wordpress comparisons aren’t favourable, documentation makes wordpress editing 1000 times easier.

<u>Give us an overview. </u> Sounds very simple, and most PM’s have an overview list for each project anyway (usually on a power point to fob directors off), but it would make life easier. Many of us still don’t know what ‘features’ are standard with BBpress and which will only be available via plugin. Many of us don’t know what features are intended on being added, or what direction BBpress is going to go in. These aren’t bugs, we can’t add them to Trac, but many good points have been raised on these forums in the past – and I don’t think it’s right of us to assume you missed them or have ignore them, simply because there’s no communication.

Last bug not least…

Any chance we could have a reigning in chat with some Moderators? It’s great that they give up their time to reply here, and help the community, but (and I don’t know if it’s just someone having a bad day) the comments are getting way more aggressive/argumentative/absolutist.

It’s not that the standard answers aren’t wearing thin ofc, it’s just that we know the answer is going to be:

• It’s free.
• Sam’s too busy to pass on info.
• Blame Matt.
• It’s free.
• Stop asking. It’ll be ready when it’s ready.
• It’s free.
• Automattic are here to save us all and do not make any moey at all ever and everyone works for free I loves them – please ignore the $29 million they got which included the development of BBpress in the pitch.
• Go to trac.
• Don’t believe Trac.
• Sam’s too busy to keep you lot updated.
• Microsoft.
• It’s free.

That’s said a little tongue in cheek, and I hope it caused no offence, but while the moderators are clearly trying to do a great job (and we thank them), rarely do we get answers or constructive conversation when we talk about things like this. We’re shot down very quickly that we dared to have a different view point, and then given one of the standard answers that blame someone else or that it’s free.

WE WANT TO HELP.

Anyone who takes the time to hang around this forum sees we want to help. Anyone who takes the time to write on the forum wants to support BBpress.

If you’re the only developer on BBpress, or the person making almost all of the plugins, or the moderator who slams anyone who asks a question: please let us help.

We can’t just rock up, roll up our sleeves and stick our hand up a cow’s butt (an old farming joke – sorry). We need some direction, we need to be able to ask questions, we need information. Once we know what stage BBpress is at, we can help in taking it forward – with you.

But right now, all we can do is right posts like these every 2 months.

[John James Jacoby]

Yeah some of my users haven’t updated their profiles, and BuddyPress doesn’t recognize them until either they do, or I force the info (which I will probably do.)

@TeddyC, it took me installing WordPressMU 4 times before I followed the instructions correctly, and I’d recommend not doing it on Valentines weekend so your girlfriend doesn’t hate you for a few days, but otherwise I think it went as smoothly as it could considering I migrated 200 users from WordPress.org/bbPress over to MU. There’s a few places where I had to trial and error my way through the multi-blog switchover and the URL re-writing still isn’t perfect (categories and postnames are broken?) and I had to manually dump the DB and replace all the directory references for all of the uploaded media.

Otherwise the rest was just tweaking and tinkering. Lots of it.

I’ve got the forums FULLY integrated now with BuddyPress, so single account access, cookies, and users are able to post to group forums from within the group itself, and vice versa. It’s a neat little bridge and I rather like that it’s all playing nice. Hopefully upgrading to 1.0 or new alpha’s doesn’t TOTALLY break everything too badly, although I anticipate that it probably will. Yay!

I am going to be using BuddyPress to do a small social networking site for a non profit, that is going to be incorporating some school related content, so I will let you know how that goes and be sure to stay in touch as it progresses. I’ll link back to it here if we decide to incorporate bbPress.

[deadlyhifi]

$forum_one_topics = $bbdb->get_results("SELECT * FROM $bbdb->topics WHERE forum_id = $forum_id AND topic_status = 0 AND topic_sticky = 0 ORDER BY topic_id DESC LIMIT $limit OFFSET $offset");

updated to leave out sticky posts from the second loop (added AND topic_sticky = 0 to query).

If you leave out ‘$forum_id = 1;’ it will work on multiple forums.

I’ve done this so that my front page summary shows latest active posts, but my specific forum pages list by topic order.