[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

You could just make the WP install part the ‘about this site’ page, or use it for a FAQ. Most forums I’ve seen end up using some plugin to force that anyway, so the loss is a little negligible.

What about having WP bothers you so? I mean that sincerely, since I suspect a good, logical argument would be beneficial to the development. You say you can’t afford a WP install, but I don’t know why (security risks? just don’t like it…)

Speaking as a coder/programmer/developer/whatever, I think that BB is most often used in concert with WP, and the integration is superficial right now. You can easily get user integration, but login can have issues and themes are often separate. While I had only minimal issues setting it all up, the difference between setting up WP and BB versus WPMU+BuddyPress+BB is obscene! It’s all of a click and done for the later, and there’s really no reason it can’t be that easy for WP. That kind of integration would really help BB get out there and be used.

This is a 5 year old app, it’s barely in V1, and it needs an injection to get it back on track. If the developers feel it’s easier, better and work on and support, well, I trust them. As far as forums go, there are other, better, stand-alones out there. If the dev team don’t want to complete against those, and want to make a niche app, that’s not a bad idea.

The forums at wordpress.org and mu.wordpress.org and wordpress.com are all using bbPress, which I suspect might be the driving force there.

[gerikg]

If I remember correctly bbpress refuses you to put www and WordPress doesn’t care. When one has www and the other one does not the cookies don’t work.

[chrishajer]

gerikg, # 1 is a deal killer for me: you cannot use www for your WordPress and bbPress installation? Why is that? Problems with cookie integration? Just curious. Thanks

[Olympus]

The problem is that some people ( me for example ) don’t want to install a blank WordPress blog integrated with the bbPress forum just for the Facebook Connect support .

Oh and, I think it’s a really bad idea to make bbPress a WP plugin, if it’s gonna happen, there will be two choices for me : either leave bbPress and search for another easy to design forum software, or stick with the 1.0.2 or something like that and avoid to update . Because I can’t afford to install a WordPress blog just to use bbPress !

So, I think Matt is wrong when he’s saying that bbPress can’t compete in the forum software market ! IT CANS ! Just do some little improvements like default theme rewriting ( so that newbies will be encouraged to use it ), and write a Codex so that everyone sees how easy it is to customize bbPress, then, when bbPress becomes mature, try to link the two sites wordpress.org and bbpress.org together ( well yeah, when I visit WordPress.org, I don’t see any mention of bbPress ! ) to have a greater user base .

Matt had two choices :

• Listen to the non-coders ( who are requesting to make bbPress a WP plugin, because they find it “too hard” to integrate in the WP theme ) .
• Listen to the coders ( who are saying that bbPress should stay a standalone application ) .

Matt made the wrong choice ( the first one ), so I think that many coders will leave bbPress .

Sorry but… If someones wants a WP plugin, there are tons of them : SimplePress is a great example !

So please, leave bbPress as a standalone application !

[gerikg]

Chrishajer, I’ll try. There are several reasons why it doesn’t work but I’ll write it here. I usually find it and then write about it but I’ll try your way.

1 When installing wordpress/bbpress do NOT use “www.” Example: use bbpress.org not http://www.bbpress.org and use the same database. You do not need to change the prefix, I prefer you don’t because you’ll run into problem later.

2 Make sure bbpress is in a folder in wordpress. example: wordpress/bbpress/ not on the same level.

3 The folder does not have to be named bbpress, most people make it forum or forums.

*After successfully installing both programs open wp-config.php (in the wordpress folder) file. Around line # 45-# 48 you’ll see define(‘AUTH_KEY’…. go to this URL (https://api.wordpress.org/secret-key/1.1/salt) and get the EIGHT keys and REPLACE the FOUR keys that are there. Save. Keep the file open for now.

4 Open bb-config.php (in the bbpress folder) do the same thing here. With the SAME keys you put in the wordpress file put in the bb-config file around line # 41-45. Save. Keep the file open for now.

5 Clear your cache on your browser. Log into your bbpress dashboard and go to Settings->Wordpress Integration-> WordPress Administrator should be keymaster. Every other option should be member for now. WordPress address (URL) should be the URL again NO www. Blog address (URL) the same as before. The last 3 should be LOCKED if not repeat the steps 3&4.

6 Login to your wordpress dashboard. Go to Plugins->Add New-> search for “bbPress Integration” it should be the first one. Install it and activate.

7 Go to Settings-> bbPress Integration. Enter the bbPress URL without the www. Your plugins URL leave blank. Click on Save Changes. On the bottom box you’ll see some text copy it. Most likely it will say “define( ‘COOKIEPATH’, ‘/’ );”

8 Paste the line in wp-config.php file around line # 16 (MUST be on top. Don’t know why) and paste it in bb-config.php in line # 13 (Must be on top). Save. You can delete the plugin, it’s no longer needed.

9 Clear your cache on your browser and you’re done.

Known Problems

*Two different database, one for WP and one for BBP, does not always work.

*Changing the database prefix. There are tutorials out there that tell you to do it, just don’t.

*Hosting companies that offer free databases, have buggy databases.

*BBpress not being in WordPress folder. I don’t think the plugin takes that into account.

[chrishajer]

gerikg – please post what you find. Maybe it’s a simple mistake that everyone is making, or you can show how the integration documentation needs to be updated to make this easier for everyone.

I know it’s sometimes easier to just go and fix stuff yourself instead of going back and forth in a forum trying to figure out what’s wrong, but I really do hope someone posts a procedure for integrating logins that will work for everyone. alpacino85 did what I think most reasonable people would do: download the most recent version of both software packages and then follow the latest integration instructions (even though they’re out of date), but that doesn’t seem to work. Lots of people have the same exact issue (logging into WordPress logs you our of bbPress or vice versa) so I hope there’s on little “gotcha” or “ah ha” that can be posted to take care of this for most people. Thanks.

[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

OpenID (and facebook login) is a great idea, though I feel most of the things we ‘hate’ (using the stronger term because it’s more than ‘dislike’ and ‘want fixed’ but less than ‘OMG this sux!’) about logins etc would be corrected with proper WP/BB integration.

Course that brings in a whole nother kettle of fish for coding, but given what BuddyPress has done (and I was hugely impressed by that, just waiting for 1.2 or 3 to roll out and fix things that are ‘critical’ for me) that all seems very possible.

[Michael]

To be perfectly honest – I agree with Chris.

This type of thing will be fixed when the next bbPress comes out – which will have a different intergration system

Michael

[Michael]

Hi

I have made a post at my forum, Dev:station:

“The problem with bbPages is that the customized pages are stored in an SQL Table within your bbPress Database. In effect, and based on the way it loads, the PHP code will not execute.

If, however, the plugin saved the custom page as a PHP file, it would work.

Once bbPress starts to mature with a new version, I may create such a plugin.”

[hpguru]

User with role in bbPress and without role in WordPress log in to WordPress and WordPress change role none to your WordPress default role.

[Casemon]

Seeing the same here.

Using WP 2.8.6 and BBP 1.0!

[Casemon]

Feel am getting closer to a publishable bbPress install! Woot!

In addition to the above fact cannot access Admin area (# 1 above), noticed another strange issue, possibly related to #1 above.

1. All the page titles in the forum are: “Page Not Found” despite the page loading fine. Guess this is also an .htaccess issue?

[Olympus]

I think the only things bbPress really needs are :

• A better default theme . The actual theme is too Web 0.9 . Oh, and try to get rid of the green, or use it in a clever way like Technorati or Techcrunch .
• Facebook, Twitter ( no plugins for the both until now … ) and OpenID ( there’s already a plugin by _ck_ ) integrated by default .

[alpacino85]

Hello,

I integrated wordpress Version 2.8.6 with bbpress Version 1.0.2

My user table is correctly shared, couse i can login on both.

When I switch from wordpress to bbpress, I am nog logged in, if i log in on bbpress i get logged out on wordpress.

Does any one know what i did wrong ?

[chrishajer]

2. Does this problem occur when you use a stock theme like Kakumei?

And your integration is not correct if when you log in to WordPress you get logged out of bbPress.

[plutopsyche]

I tried the following:

<?php $topic = $GLOBALS = get_latest_topics( array( ‘number’ => 1, ‘forum’ => get_forum_id() ) ); ?><?php topic_last_post_link(); ?>

But all it returned was:

http://bookclub.plutonica.net/topic/#post-

Is there any documentation on the tags available with bbPress? I’ve tried searching this site and Google, but I can’t seem to turn up anything comprehensive.

Thanks.

[Gautam]

Thanks Michael

[Casemon]

Sorry, that’s:

# BEGIN BBPress

<IfModule mod_rewrite.c>

RewriteEngine On

RewriteBase /forum/

Options +MultiViews

</IfModule>

# END BBPress

[Casemon]

So that page is current? It appeared to me that it was a bit out of date with the references to pre-1.0, but hey, glad it works!

So that solves 2) Awesome! Am still seeing 1)

Thinking this is an .htaccess issue. Is there a current link for what should appear in the .htaccess file? Still getting blank page anytime I click on Admin or access an admin page manually (via url).

: Have tried

– Deleting cookies

– Flushing cache

– various long & convoluted .htaccess files found here.

Have installed to a subdir of my root wp installation, dir is named forum.

Here is my current .htaccess for bbpress:

# BEGIN BBPress

<IfModule mod_rewrite.c>

RewriteEngine On

RewriteBase /forums/

Options +MultiViews

</IfModule>

# END BBPress

Almost there!

[chrishajer]

https://bbpress.org/forums/statistics.php (statistics.php on your forum)

[af3]

@sennad, yep! Anyone ever came up with hacks to show the facebook pics appear as avatar in bbpress?

anyone? thx

[Michael]

I have downloaded it, thank you. I saw that the problem came from the fact that it was only allowing Key Masters as the minimum access. I realized that there was a problem with my database which is why it was not saving the settings when I changed them.

It al works perfectly now – thanks!

[Michael]

That’s awesome! I have just commented on the beta. Thank you!

And thanks for the tips – they sound very logical, and pretty much confirm what I kept asking myself.

I really appreciate all your help.

[Gautam]

Just released bbCumulus beta – https://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/bb-cumulus/

[Ben L.]

The problem has now been fixed in the development version.