[chrishajer]

Kevin, we added the svn revision number to the version, so any theme that echos the meta generator tag will have the version, like “1.1-alpha-2440”. Checking the source here, this site is not running the very latest trunk, although it is running trunk of some revision (but a revision before 2441 – we just don’t know which one since the version tag was not changed until 2441.)

[meta name=”generator” content=”bbPress 1.1-alpha” /]

On my test installation http://bbpress.chrishajer.com/trunk/ you can see it’s running r2441:

[meta name=”generator” content=”bbPress 1.1-alpha-2441″ /]

Test posting there in code tag or backticks shows completely fubar formatting. It is apparently something we can fix in trunk. Not sure when that particular problem was introduced.

[kevinjohngallagher]

Just a quick reminder, that we’ve now reached 6 months without a blog post on bbPress (13th Jan to 13th Jun).

And we haven’t been able to type code on the forum for the last 3 weeks, and 30% of the pages in the new theme haven’t actually been ported over; and basic links in the header and footer are no longer working.

[kevinjohngallagher]

Last blog entry here was 6 months ago!

Not a good sign.

It’s always like that though. Back when we had a paid full time developer I didn’t know he existed for the first 3.5 months I was involved in the project.

Management, and Communication of it’s decidions, is the single biggest roadblock of bbpress in going forward.

[kevinjohngallagher]

Gautam,

Can you confirm if this “Greater than” and “less than” nonsense is in the nightly builds, and thus something for us to fix in the latest version, or if it’s down to a hack purely on the bbPress website.

Because it’s getting quite mental.

[kevinjohngallagher]

Is bbPress going to live or morph into something else?

Both. According to Matt, who stated it back in January in the middle of an IRC chat, bbPress will become a WordPress plugin… eventually.

I doubt that’ll happen anytime soon though.

With the release of WP 3.0 just around the corner (I am already running WP3 RC2), what’s going to happen with bbPress then?

Same as what’s happening now. Some good folks will work on code (some community members, some Automattic folks), and we’ll sitin silence not knowing what tomrrow will bring.

Do I install bbPress on WP as a forum and use BuddyPress to access it?

If you’re using BuddyPress, you’re not talking to the people behind the bbPress you’re using. the bbpress that works with BuddyPress is a different beast, and for some reason they decided not to rename it, so we get the support questions and bad rep – constantly!

Or is something going to change and make the combination and integration of all the plugins for each and of WP3/bbPress/BuddyPress all too much of a royal pain in the petutie?

WP/BuddyPress plugins are never going to work with bbPress.

There’s a long answer behind why, but basically, thats a no go.

I wish someone could give me some clarity on the direction bbPress and BudyPress are going.

BuddyPress actually has some great folks who are very communicative and support their community so well it’s unreal. But you’d need to be on the BuddyPress forum for that – as it’s got nothing to do with us.

bbPress, well, we’d all like some communication – but thats never been it’s strong point. Don’t worry, thats not new, and it’s not going to change.

Someone. Anyone?

ECHO ECho Echo echo… etc

[_ck_]

As rude and weird as this entire topic is, the reality is the form of bbPress that you have known up to now and through 1.1 (1.2?) from Automattic is over.

Once bbPress stops being stand-alone, everything will change: all the advice on this entire forum will be mostly useless, the plugins and themes will be pointless for the WordPress plugin version of bbPress.

In fact they should probably call the plugin something other than bbPress as it will only confuse people when they search for help and resources for the plugin.

The turning point for bbPress was BackPress. The state we are in now is 100% the problem with that decision (made by Matt in January 2008, quite cavalierly IMHO).

To be more specific, bbPress based on BackPress actually would have been almost acceptable, IF, and this is critical, IF WordPress had been also converted to use BackPress. But it wasn’t and now almost obviously never will be.

So we are left with an orphaned product, not bbPress, but BackPress itself, which makes the 1.x line of bbPress a dead-end because of it’s dependency.

I need to be very careful what I say next because some people immediately jump on every word as some kind of promise, which I am not making. All I can say is that I will attempt to maintain 0.9 in my own way as long as reasonably possible (years?) until a better solution emerges (which is unlikely, but we’ll see).

Considering how it’s all up to Matt now, I’d be *more* polite to him, not less.

[Terence Milbourn]

The other big question in my mind is this.

Is bbPress going to live or morph into something else?

With the release of WP 3.0 just around the corner (I am already running WP3 RC2), what’s going to happen with bbPress then?

I am at a critical stage with my site’s development and I have to make a decision to jump one way or the other; partly because I just don’t have the time or money to develop two themes for one site.

Do I install bbPress on WP as a forum and use BuddyPress to access it? Or is something going to change and make the combination and integration of all the plugins for each and of WP3/bbPress/BuddyPress all too much of a royal pain in the petutie?

I wish someone could give me some clarity on the direction bbPress and BudyPress are going.

Someone. Anyone?

[Terence Milbourn]

Last blog entry here was 6 months ago!

Not a good sign.

[Terence Milbourn]

I find it incredible that a program that is well loved and which has such great potential seems to be so unloved by its developer.

The only thing I can think of is that his keynote speech graphics must have taken him a helluva long time to write.

But the big question in my mind is this. Do we stick with bbPress and all the doubts about its viability in its own right, and move over to BuddyPress with its one click install, or stick with it?

I am at a critical stage with my site’s development and I have to make a decision to jump one way or the other; partly because I just don’t have the time or money to develop two themes for one site.

I wish someone could give me some clarity on the direction bbPress and BudyPress are going.

Someone. Anyone?

[Gautam Gupta]

If you try to add a tag to a topic that doesn’t have any tags yet, using the box below the topic title, the whole page refreshes in order to add the tag (whereas it should do it within the page using Ajax).

Even this is normal.

Then, if you try to delete all the tags in a topic which has more than one tag, when you attempt to delete the last one it flashes red to denote it’s being deleted, but it then pops up again and a message appears saying ‘An unidentified error has occurred.’

I had posted a fix for this on my blog – http://gaut.am/2009/12/tags-not-getting-deleted-in-bbpress/ (maybe this is your problem).

[yoyopop]

Hiya,

Very sorry for long post, hoping someone might be help to shed some light on this problem…

If you try to add a tag to a topic that doesn’t have any tags yet, using the box below the topic title, the whole page refreshes in order to add the tag (whereas it should do it within the page using Ajax).

If you try to add a tag to a topic which already has at least one tag, then it comes up within the page, highlighted yellow etc using Ajax. That should be normal.

Then, if you try to delete all the tags in a topic which has more than one tag, when you attempt to delete the last one it flashes red to denote it’s being deleted, but it then pops up again and a message appears saying ‘An unidentified error has occurred.‘

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I had a similar problem a few weeks ago, with the tags ajax function not working, which I found out was due to a single space at the end of one plugin file.

Now though, I have disabled all plugins, am using the default template, I have re-uploaded both older backup versions and the latest trunk version of bbpress, but still have the problem!!

Am not sure if it could be a problem with the database? Looking at my database, the bb_tags and bb_tagged tables are both empty?? I do have tags in my forum though, where are they stored?

Does anyone have any clue as to the problem?

It could be the ajax is broken because of a random extra character somewhere?

Or the ‘unidentified error’ is due to the database??

[kevinjohngallagher]

would be far better to start a new thread.

Please start a new thread!

PLEASE START A NEW THREAD.

This one started in February 2009, It’s June 2010!!!

[cm]

And for integrate bbpress with wordpress 3.0?

[gadamiak]

Filed a ticket for this issue as it’s still present in r2442:

https://trac.bbpress.org/ticket/1292

[gadamiak]

Unfortunately, no change in r2442. I posted a ticket for this issue:

https://trac.bbpress.org/ticket/1293

[gadamiak]

Exactly. After that I manually deleted bbpress_been_blocked from usermeta table for that user but it got back somehow.

I just upgraded to latest revision from the trunk (2442), but the problem persists. This site is still in testing stage so I’m going to reinstall it and see if that helps.

[_ck_]

I would contact the same person that installed your WordPress and ask them for help as it’s obvious you did not install it yourself.

You might also try an automated install but change your password afterwards and backup your database first:

http://www.simplescripts.com/script_details/script:bbPress

[kevinjohngallagher]

would be far better to start a new thread.

Please start a new thread!

[kevinjohngallagher]

One of the major things that bbPress doesn’t do well is make the forum easy to moderate in anyway. 7 clicks and 4 pages to delete 1 user, and no ability to mass delete is mental.

If you have a forum that needs constant moderation for any reason, bbpress might not be the best solution sadly

[kevinjohngallagher]

Did you change the user’s status via their profile page?

site.com/bbpress_folder/profile.php?id=2&tab=edit

[kevinjohngallagher]

I am not happy about a lot of things with bbPress, specifically it’s management and communication; which have been shockingly bad for 2 years now. I also think tht Matt really dropped the ball on bbPress and then somewhat screwed us over with his comments against the “bbpress community” in his WordCap Keynote speech.

That said:

1) Don’t hide behind a fake profile. We all have opinions, and we all agree and disagree on many things. If you’ve got something to say, and you believe this is the place to say it, have the common decency to put your name to it.

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2) One has to differentiate between Matt the person, and Matt the Founder/CEO/Employee of Automattic. I have no doubt that Matt 100% wanted bbPress to succeed and he did help reinvigourate the project for a little while, he just dropped the ball again; but breaking his own rules:

http://ma.tt/2009/08/kill-your-community/

As I said herein the link below, Matt should have delegated bbPress to someone and kept up communication as Matt is an insanely busy dude. There is no doubt that WordPress 3.0 would take priority over bbPress, and there’s all the other pies that Matt has his finger in.

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/from-a-project-management-viewpoint

It’s not for you or me or anyone really to make demands of his or anyone else’s time. We can ask for information, especially really basic information that should be on this website – but Matt the person and Matt the head of Automattic doesn’t owe you/me/anybody anything.

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3) I think Matt got it wrong and messed up. He did so a couple of times in a row imo. I think he then did really wrong by us publicly taking a go at the folks who keep this site going – I thought that was underhanded and a total slap in the face to all the moderators (sorry the ONLY moderator) and people who didn’t jump ship. I lost alot of respect for Matt the person when that happened.

I think he continues to allow this to spiral but not communicating with anyone in a moderator or higher position so that some of these same questions can be answered; but bbPress is not his focus, and really, thats his call to make not ours.

It’s not like it wasn’t like this for bbpress1.0’s release and bbPress0.9 release, and as Matt said, the’ve fecked this up before and nothing changes:

We’ve done this before. Relax.

— Matt

— https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/from-a-project-management-viewpoint#post-63315

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4) I truly think this post covers my thoughts in a nice concise manner. And before making any posts like this, I strongly suggest reading it:

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/whats-happening-with-bbpress/page/5#post-64410

It followed a post by Gautam, who’s done stellar work since Matt’s departure, and was followed by the only moderator left asking a simple question and then Matt leaving the project. I think it shows the difference from where “we” the community are and where Matt is. And that’s ok, we’re all allowed to be in different places.

But posts like this is never going to be helpful.

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5) I think it’s very very wrong to state that Matt doesn’t have “heart, soul and brain”. The man is a really nice, wonderfully warm and smart human being. He’s just fracked up on this, and for teh first time in a long time, hasn’t looked at things objectively and help up his hands (which is one of the things I admire most about Matt over the years).

And bro, with all due respect to _ck_, without warning she left the project too and closed down her forum so we couldn’t access the code or discussions on it. I think _ck_ is an amazing amazing developer, and knows bbPress inside out; but I’m not sure on what you’re basing this presumption that she (or any of us) would be better at leading a community based project. _ck_ has in the past shown some signs of not being the happiest bunny when people start asking questions.

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6) I’m still laughing at how childish your fake profile name is. “wtfmatt”. Ha, you really should have just called yourself “impatient13yearold”.

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7) I was trying to reference this earlier. I wrote this alomst 18 months ago now. Crazy how much of it still holds true:

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/how-to-help-us-help-bbpress

Take care,

Kev

[Gautam Gupta]

Only when you load WordPress functions in bbPress.

[Jeaz]

Hey,

I would love to be able to run a widget from my WP-blog in the bbPress forum. I know that bbPress doesn’t have a widget bit, but is it possible to do it still?

[haose]

Hi guys! I have a curious with this plugin. When a unregisterd user leave a comment on my blog, the username will be transfered correctly to forum, and a voice will be created. But i can not see the content of the comment.

But if i edit the comment on forum, i do see the content.

Plz help!

[Gautam Gupta]

That can be achieved by this patch – https://trac.bbpress.org/attachment/ticket/538/bbp_538_stas.diff