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  • #89577
    wtfmatt
    Member

    FORKPRESS 1.1 … July 2010?

    Let’s hear from some of the biggest plugin developers people.

    Let’s hear anything for christ’s sake. Spill your thoughts, PLEASE.

    If we want things to change, action is needed. Inaction will simply keep things how they are, with crippling wishful thinking.

    There is no need to feel abandoned by WP… if we retain our own community with our own goals and our own work.

    Look how fast myBB is growing right now, the world is desperate for alternatives to hacking SMF and phpBB to work with a CMS like WP.

    The fact alone that bbpress supports SEO friendly URLs is keeping this software alive, I swear to god.

    #89695

    well Matt’s moving bbPress to be a WordPress plugin, and it already runs the WordPress support forums, so in that effect Automattic aren’t going to lose out. It fulfils all their needs.

    And right now, bbPress more than fills my needs for 80% of my forum work; but then it was never intended to fill the other 20%.

    I stay here and contribute because it has real potential (I suppose everything does), but the more I dig around, the more I can see bbPress taking off in a big way wiht a bit of care and love, and well, management/planning.

    Good luck in your search Terence, best of health to you!

    #89573
    wtfmatt
    Member

    Case in point Kevin. You probably own a $3000 macbook and joined peace corps, and can’t help condescend to everyone while playing the “i’m just reasonable hero” card. You flat out insult _ck_ while attacking me at the same time. Stop wasting time with your egotistical games. Either be a part of bbpress and defend our community, or get out. But trying to play all sides doesn’t work.

    Matt didn’t write bbpress – not as it exists today anyway.

    My point, before Kevin started talking about how he saved Africa, is that we are the ones who have been building this software for 3 years, and we need to demand more from matt (i.e. control). He’s not a freakin’ volunteer for christ’s sake, he owns a company and is a millionaire.

    WE are bbpress, and WE are all on the same team (except when people start condescending to each other). And we need to NOT suck up to matt. We need to demand bbpress retains the community it deserves… and not let lazy matt keep wasting everyone’s time and efforts!

    Nobody cares if he is busy. This community exists and deserves fair treatment and deserves to develop itself if its long-lost leader is screwing the pooch for 3 friggin’ years.

    #89694

    Kevin,

    My goal is to build Virtual Crowds way beyond 100 a day and yes moderation will be a big issue, you’re right.

    I’m not looking for the easy way out (never do), which is why a poked my head up above the parapet in the first place. What I want to do, is do it right; get the best possible solution.

    As far as I can see, the way I have to work is from the inside out. In other words, as I am not committed to bbPress or BuddyPress for that matter, I need to start with WordPress and add my forum (social networking functionality etc), as and when I can, and it makes sense, i.e. once the smoke clears a little.

    Its a real shame, but I cannot see that being the original bbPress, flawed and brilliant as it is.

    But you know what they say, one door never shuts without another opening.

    Who knows, maybe Mingle will get its act together and eventually become that much needed WordPress forum and social network plugin, and then Matt will lose out on both bbPress and BuddyPress.

    And so will you guys, I am afraid. And I am sorry about that. I wish there was something I could do.

    #89693

    Basically Terence,

    If you know you’re way around WordPress and are good at theming or hacking some code into a fucntions.php file, then you’ll find bbPress easy to set up and get going.

    Looking into the future of bbPress is never going to help. It doesn’t have a project lead, other than the Wizard of Oz (every 6 months there is a voice from behind the curtain that everyone bows down to). But it’s open source software, it’s never going to go away, and the next version does have some great little fixes.

    My biggest suggestion is this: How busy will your forum be, and how much moderation will it need? bbPress fails at helping you moderate your site once it gets very busy.

    Knowing it’s faults though, it’s still my go to bit of software for forums where I’m expecting less than 100 posts a day.

    Kev

    #87833

    Well then, why doesn’t somebody do something about it? If I remember rightly, WordPress itself was salvaged from another star that had entered a decaying orbit.

    Are there no Buzz Lightyears out there?

    #89572

    With respect, If you think I’ve sucked up to anyone – especially Matt or Automattic people – you’ve really not read alot of my posts. I’ve been very forward, blunt and vocal about Matt dropping the ball on this, not only on this site but on others.

    That doesn’t mean I’m going to agree with you, or anyone else, when you insulting someone’s person. Thats not sucking up, thats just being decent. Everyone’s entitled to their opinion.

    Matt has messed up. But he’s human, and this is a collaborative effort. You can’t put the blame for everything that goes wrong on one person. Or you can, but in the end you’re only going to alienate yourself from people who have the same goal.

    That’s the whole point people, we all built the code and all the plugins

    Did “WE”?

    You know Matt wrote bbPress right?

    You know Matt’s emplyees then fixes bbpress (albeit in an adhoc manner) until bbpress 0.8.3, right?

    You know Matt then paid for a ‘full time’ developer for bbPress (Sam Bauers) for a year, right?

    Matt is directly/indirectly responsible for more code than anyone else on this project.

    Yes, he’s causing more issues than he’s solving right now, and yeah it’s annoying; but insulting his person by saying he doesn’t have Brains or Heart is just childish. And bluntly, unhelpful.

    Notice how this site’s Alexa rate is a steady 12k… the entire world is waiting on this mates!

    Lets be honest, the entire world isn’t waiting for this. I’ve spent a large chunk of time in Africa volunteering, building schools and basic irrigation. “The World” doesn’t care. We care, but its’ just forum software. Lets look at this in perspective.

    Look, if you want Matt/AutoMattic/Developers/bbPress-community/Santa to come together or move forward in a particular direction thats cool. But making grandeous statements like this with no hard facts or suggestions doesn’t help at all. Half of what you said in your second post is so wrong it’s unreal. Honestly, if you want change and you want to help, cool. But don’t just spout facts and conclusions that you’ve made up.

    we are on the same team yo!

    I… I’m not sure what to say to that.

    Can I change teams? Or can we vote people off?

    ;-)

    This happens every now and then.

    It’s not specific to bbPress as an issue.

    You basically want to delete everything and re-upload. Try and do so in passive mode too if you can.

    #89571
    wtfmatt
    Member

    Why the heck does everyone continue to think this is up to matt and keep sucking up to him? That’s the whole point people, we all built the code and all the plugins, what in god’s name does matt have to do with this anymore besides what… owning the domain name?

    Yes matt is a nice smart guy, but he doesn’t have a HEART for bbpress. He has the brain, but not the heart, is my point. And right now he’s not even using his brain for bbpress so what’s the point of your compliments to him, a rattled nervous praise to *hope* he doesn’t delete bbpress.org???

    Nobody is asking for his time, or efforts! We are just asking that he LET GO of the reigns that he obviously has no interest in holding himself. And by the way, you shouldn’t accuse me of insulting matt, when he is the one that INSULTS US regularly… we are on the same team yo! We can build and take care of this project without him if he would just let people that have a heart for the bbpress project access the server and define goals and deadlines for the project.

    Letting bbpress go the route of a WP plugin is just matt’s round about way of saying “f*ck off” I’m gonna kill this community and sweep it under the rug into the “not so regularly updated” plugin world.

    And as _ck_ said, if it becomes a plugin, then what the heck happens to the bbpress plugins? You can’t install plugins of plugins!

    I don’t know _ck_ well but I know she practically built half the code on this site by herself. That shows HEART. And I know there are others too with just as much heart, like Gautam, etc. I’m not here to play politics, please don’t try and interpret my words! Kevin man you are exactly what I’m talking about, you are smart and have HEART, but you won’t stop playing this nerdy suckup game as if one day matt is going to take you out to dinner. HE WONT. So please stop sucking up and let’s get this stuff done brother!

    If you ask me, I think we should bug matt until he gives in. Emails, blog comments, whatever. He will get the point.

    Or do you have another 2 years to waste?… cuz I don’t. Notice how this site’s Alexa rate is a steady 12k… the entire world is waiting on this mates! Don’t THROW IT AWAY!

    p.s. I’m not hiding behind a fake identity. I’m not a “well known” member of bbpress so don’t fret y’all…

    #89634
    pukkap
    Member

    Oh God, I spent all day trying to get this to work

    I deleted everything then I have uploaded bbpress to wwww.appertunity.com/forum again but when I go there and enter the details still getting

    “There was a problem connecting to the database you specified.

    Please check the settings, then try again.”

    Booghoo – anyone help?

    Its going to be something very simple cos Im new to this

    #89705

    Ah BackPress.

    Like Marrying my high school sweetheart it was a wonderful idea at the time, that somehow comes back to bite me on the behind every damned day ever since ;-]

    (here’s hoping she doesn’t google me!!)

    Mr Pelle,

    I truly believe that bbPress is a grand little product, it’s so flexible and extendable that it’s potential in unbridaled. if your forum doesn’t requite alot of moderation, then I can’t think of anything better than bbPress.

    It’s just hampered by no management and no communication, which I feel only exasperate/exagerate it’s problems. And this comes from the the moany SoB who points them out ;-)

    bbpress 1.0.3/1.1 (cos we’ve no-one in charge to make the decision to release anything) contains a great number of bug fixes that have plagued bbPress for too long. All small, all annoying and great to get them out of the road. Even if you don’t need the 2 new** features, it will be a good thing when this comes out and you upgrade.

    I’m all for pointing out mistakes, and keepingon top of this to geet things released, and maybe get some answers out of someone at some time (Seriously, 6 months per blog post – crazy from the company behind WordPress blogging platform) and then we’ll take stock and see what happens then.

    ** they’re not new, we’d had them for years as plugins. God himself only knows why we couldn’t have a bug fix release instead, then work on new features. But that requires stakeholders to be consulted and decisions to be made…

    #89631

    Gareth Gates earned a bit over of leway in the Gallagher household for Jordan, but Stuart McCall… y’all are going to hell of keeping him alive/busy for a while longer ;-)

    Anyway, what you want is to make sure that your bbPress config file has the same info as teh wordpress config file for each of these below

    in WordPress

    define( 'DB_NAME', 'database_name' );

    /** MySQL database username */

    define( ‘DB_USER’, ‘user_name’ );

    /** MySQL database password */

    define( ‘DB_PASSWORD’, ‘password’ );

    /** MySQL hostname */

    define( ‘DB_HOST’, ‘localhost’ );

    /** Database Charset to use in creating database tables. */

    define( ‘DB_CHARSET’, ‘utf8’ );

    /** The Database Collate type. Don’t change this if in doubt. */

    define( ‘DB_COLLATE’, ” );

    in bbPress

    define( 'BBDB_NAME', 'database_name' );

    /** MySQL database username */

    define( ‘BBDB_USER’, ‘user_name’ );

    /** MySQL database password */

    define( ‘BBDB_PASSWORD’, ‘password’ );

    /** MySQL hostname */

    define( ‘BBDB_HOST’, ‘localhost’ );

    /** Database Charset to use in creating database tables. */

    define( ‘BBDB_CHARSET’, ‘utf8’ );

    /** The Database Collate type. Don’t change this if in doubt. */

    define( ‘BBDB_COLLATE’, ” );

    If they are the same, then I’m a bit clueless right now

    #89704
    mr_pelle
    Participant

    Just a quick reminder, that we’ve now reached 6 months without a blog post on bbPress (13th Jan to 13th Jun).

    And we haven’t been able to type code on the forum for the last 3 weeks, and 30% of the pages in the new theme haven’t actually been ported over; and basic links in the header and footer are no longer working.

    Geez… this makes me damn the day I chose bbPress as forum software for my company…

    #89629

    A Bradford man eh? I was down there on thursday.

    Anyway, welcome to bbPress.

    What you want to do here is look at your WordPress config file (wp-config.php) that is already on your website (i am presuming here that you’re wanting to add a forum for appertunity.com – or at least on the same server).

    You will see what it has for each of the details that you filled in for the corresponding bb-config.php file. that should give you some insight as to what the database settings should be :)

    #89703
    chrishajer
    Participant

    Makes sense. I got that error about 15 times when I made a test post at http://bbpress.chrishajer.com/trunk

    The post still went through, and the code is all messed up.

    This was the bbPress ticket:

    https://trac.bbpress.org/ticket/1283

    Closed it and made a BackPress ticket:

    http://backpress.automattic.com/ticket/25

    #89691
    chrishajer
    Participant

    If anyone really wants to know what’s going on with bbPress, I suggest contacting Matt Mullenweg. I don’t know if there’s anyone else in charge who would know more.

    #89654
    chrishajer
    Participant

    Kevin, we added the svn revision number to the version, so any theme that echos the meta generator tag will have the version, like “1.1-alpha-2440”. Checking the source here, this site is not running the very latest trunk, although it is running trunk of some revision (but a revision before 2441 – we just don’t know which one since the version tag was not changed until 2441.)

    [meta name=”generator” content=”bbPress 1.1-alpha” /]

    On my test installation http://bbpress.chrishajer.com/trunk/ you can see it’s running r2441:

    [meta name=”generator” content=”bbPress 1.1-alpha-2441″ /]

    Test posting there in code tag or backticks shows completely fubar formatting. It is apparently something we can fix in trunk. Not sure when that particular problem was introduced.

    #34492

    Just a quick reminder, that we’ve now reached 6 months without a blog post on bbPress (13th Jan to 13th Jun).

    And we haven’t been able to type code on the forum for the last 3 weeks, and 30% of the pages in the new theme haven’t actually been ported over; and basic links in the header and footer are no longer working.

    #87832

    Last blog entry here was 6 months ago!

    Not a good sign.

    It’s always like that though. Back when we had a paid full time developer I didn’t know he existed for the first 3.5 months I was involved in the project.

    Management, and Communication of it’s decidions, is the single biggest roadblock of bbpress in going forward.

    #89653

    Gautam,

    Can you confirm if this “Greater than” and “less than” nonsense is in the nightly builds, and thus something for us to fix in the latest version, or if it’s down to a hack purely on the bbPress website.

    Because it’s getting quite mental.

    #89690

    Is bbPress going to live or morph into something else?

    Both. According to Matt, who stated it back in January in the middle of an IRC chat, bbPress will become a WordPress plugin… eventually.

    I doubt that’ll happen anytime soon though.

    With the release of WP 3.0 just around the corner (I am already running WP3 RC2), what’s going to happen with bbPress then?

    Same as what’s happening now. Some good folks will work on code (some community members, some Automattic folks), and we’ll sitin silence not knowing what tomrrow will bring.

    Do I install bbPress on WP as a forum and use BuddyPress to access it?

    If you’re using BuddyPress, you’re not talking to the people behind the bbPress you’re using. the bbpress that works with BuddyPress is a different beast, and for some reason they decided not to rename it, so we get the support questions and bad rep – constantly!

    Or is something going to change and make the combination and integration of all the plugins for each and of WP3/bbPress/BuddyPress all too much of a royal pain in the petutie?

    WP/BuddyPress plugins are never going to work with bbPress.

    There’s a long answer behind why, but basically, thats a no go.

    I wish someone could give me some clarity on the direction bbPress and BudyPress are going.

    BuddyPress actually has some great folks who are very communicative and support their community so well it’s unreal. But you’d need to be on the BuddyPress forum for that – as it’s got nothing to do with us.

    bbPress, well, we’d all like some communication – but thats never been it’s strong point. Don’t worry, thats not new, and it’s not going to change.

    Someone. Anyone?

    ECHO ECho Echo echo… etc

    #89569
    _ck_
    Participant

    As rude and weird as this entire topic is, the reality is the form of bbPress that you have known up to now and through 1.1 (1.2?) from Automattic is over.

    Once bbPress stops being stand-alone, everything will change: all the advice on this entire forum will be mostly useless, the plugins and themes will be pointless for the WordPress plugin version of bbPress.

    In fact they should probably call the plugin something other than bbPress as it will only confuse people when they search for help and resources for the plugin.

    The turning point for bbPress was BackPress. The state we are in now is 100% the problem with that decision (made by Matt in January 2008, quite cavalierly IMHO).

    To be more specific, bbPress based on BackPress actually would have been almost acceptable, IF, and this is critical, IF WordPress had been also converted to use BackPress. But it wasn’t and now almost obviously never will be.

    So we are left with an orphaned product, not bbPress, but BackPress itself, which makes the 1.x line of bbPress a dead-end because of it’s dependency.

    I need to be very careful what I say next because some people immediately jump on every word as some kind of promise, which I am not making. All I can say is that I will attempt to maintain 0.9 in my own way as long as reasonably possible (years?) until a better solution emerges (which is unlikely, but we’ll see).

    Considering how it’s all up to Matt now, I’d be *more* polite to him, not less.

    #34491

    The other big question in my mind is this.

    Is bbPress going to live or morph into something else?

    With the release of WP 3.0 just around the corner (I am already running WP3 RC2), what’s going to happen with bbPress then?

    I am at a critical stage with my site’s development and I have to make a decision to jump one way or the other; partly because I just don’t have the time or money to develop two themes for one site.

    Do I install bbPress on WP as a forum and use BuddyPress to access it? Or is something going to change and make the combination and integration of all the plugins for each and of WP3/bbPress/BuddyPress all too much of a royal pain in the petutie?

    I wish someone could give me some clarity on the direction bbPress and BudyPress are going.

    Someone. Anyone?

    #87831

    Last blog entry here was 6 months ago!

    Not a good sign.

    #87830

    I find it incredible that a program that is well loved and which has such great potential seems to be so unloved by its developer.

    The only thing I can think of is that his keynote speech graphics must have taken him a helluva long time to write.

    But the big question in my mind is this. Do we stick with bbPress and all the doubts about its viability in its own right, and move over to BuddyPress with its one click install, or stick with it?

    I am at a critical stage with my site’s development and I have to make a decision to jump one way or the other; partly because I just don’t have the time or money to develop two themes for one site.

    I wish someone could give me some clarity on the direction bbPress and BudyPress are going.

    Someone. Anyone?

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