[heppusiel]

I just try latest version of BBPress, and this problem exist. Is there any fix coming? Codes above didn’t work for me.

[Robin W]

if you disable (as a test) any/all of Active Member 360 / Active Campaign / Buddy Boss Social Learner / BBPress / Learn Dash.

Does the problem go away, suspect the issue is related to those plugins

[Krupa Nanda]

Steps:
1. Goto /wp-admin/post-new.php?post_type=forum Page.
2. Check Preview button UI.
3. Output is something like as show here.

Anyone facing the same problem?

Cross checked in Chrome, Firefox and Safari with latest versions.
bbPress Version – Version 2.5.14
WP Version – 4.8.2

[Fabian]

1) It is true and I’ll show you some more precise benchmarks on this for a concrete example. Take the filter bbp_map_meta_caps, it’s within a filter recursion, where the filter fires it self again. The recursively fires 4 times with bbpress only. Now if another plugins does the same, it could get up to 16. Plugin run times include each other through the filter api. In worst case you can’t just add them to each other, they bias by some non-linear function that is definitely not O(n).
Your point is true, that you can’t blame a plugin for being slower in conjuntion to others. But, you as a developer, should avoid that other plugins can slowdown your own plugin, by minimal intrusion into the WordPress plugin API. And bbPress does not have this minimal intrusion. Of course it is a big software product, but there is high potential to conditionally hook into WP only on pages it needs to.

2) No its not completely irrelevant. I wasnt clear enouh here, I’m not referring to file count, but yeah -how you said- file size or LLOC. Were not talking about vulcanizing scripts. You’re right, the PHP interpreter got very fast and it should not matter, but consider:

a) Only the inclusion of bbpress main file makes PHP allocate about 600 KB. Thats a lot, considering 0 output bytes. And this happens on every request, every REST.

b) Think about who runs a WordPress site, not people that have a dedicated high performance server. Usually its a webspace in a VM. These systems can power hundreds of sites, so the webserver does not just read 500 files at the same time, but lets say 10000. This lowers the chance to find the same PHP code in some cache between subsequent requests. The code size per request starts to matter here.

b) It is a style thing, I dont want my programs to load 1MB code without using it. And yeah, there are many plugins that just follow WordPress style to include everything, but this does not mean it is a good style to follow. Unfortunately, there is no well known code metric that covers this. WP was created in darker times of PHP, without autoloaders. Why do we have them now? I dont get it why so few plugins properly use them, it takes a day to refactor your plugin and another to test.

bbPress is not doing bad. It could just be more minimal if the forum is just a smaller part of your website. I dont expect 25 plugins to allocate 0 memory, but I expect 25 plugins not to clog my dashboard and frontpage, where I do not want them to load. I want them to do what they are supposed to do on specific pages within the front- and backend.
Its true that woocomerce is the worst.
I could optimize it though. It only loads on the shop frontpage, on the checkout page, on product pages, specific ajax actions and REST endpoints. The cart can be XHR, or one can keep on loading the plugin once a cookie is set. This technique makes the wp-admin dashboard fast too.

(I’ll back with the benchmarks)

[Milan Petrovic]

1. That is simply not true. I developed many plugins for bbPress, and I always do extensive benchmarking of bbPress and various plugins, and if you have 25 plugins or if you have 5 plugins, bbPress has the same impact on WP regardless. If two websites add 0.1 seconds slowdown, you can’t blame one of the plugins for what other is doing.

2. That is completely irrelevant to loading performance. It is possible to merge all files any plugin has into one huge file. A number of files don’t have too much impact on the loading, and it is even recommended to have a lot of smaller files to help with the code organization, improve loading of what is needed when it is needed (for the most part). WordPress loads about 200 files on average for each page request, and even more on the admin side, and I have seen plugins that load 100 or more files. Size of files have more impact on performance, then the number of files. And with modern servers using SSD discs and a lot of memory, files loading is negligible.

The biggest impact of performance of any plugin has to work with the database in any way (getting posts, filtering). And yes, bbPress up to version 2.5 was not best optimized, and it was on the slower side when dealing with large topics or large forums. Version 2.6 (currently in Beta/RC stage), has significant performance improvements related to database operations, loading posts and processing them.

PHP has Opcache, and other performance related tools for a reason: PHP is not compiled, it is interpreted, and that is always a slower method for doing things, and PHP needs help to make things faster. It is a good thing to have and use Opcache or Memcached. For instance, my website without Opcache uses 60MB for PHP process on average, with Opcache that goes down to 12MB. WordPress without Opcache uses about 20MB on its own, bbPress adds about 5MB, WooCommerce adds closer to 10MB, BuddyPress around 6-7MB. Huge and complex plugins always need memory to work, you can’t expect to run 25 plugins and keep memory to a zero. That is why we have systems to optimize PHP, we have cache plugins.

Once the bbPress 2.6 is released, I will do a new benchmark to compare 2.5 to 2.6 and see how much gains are there when using bbPress with a forum having a large number of topics and replies. But, from current testing I am doing with 2.6, it is much faster than last 2.5.

Milan

[theacademicperson]

Hi friends,

I know I’m posting on a topic that was asked many times on this forum before (including my post from the last year).

There need to be a voting option (upvote and/or downvote) in the forum topics. It is a must to have a functionality to automatically arrange the topics based on voting by viewers.

Almost all the popular interactive forums on the web contains this feature…Stackexchange, Reddit to name a few. Others have a voting system without any rearrangement of the posts based on it…Google plus, Facebook etc.

I admit bbPress is a great forum builder on the greatest CMS at this moment (WordPress)…but it (and all forums build on it) lacks this critical feature.

As I already said this feature is being requested for a very long time, but it wasn’t added on the updates of bbPress.

So it is my earnest request to please add this feature.

You can see how many people has been requesting this by just doing a quick search in this forum – https://bbpress.org/forums/search/vote/

[Robin W]

can you test that a user gets a reminder if they click the wp-admin lost password ? Not suggesting this as a solution, this is a bit of fault finding.

[Syxguns]

WordPress 4.8.1
bbPress 2.5.14
Running PHP v.7.1
https://idwph.com/sitemap_index.xml

I currently have bbPress disabled and now my sitemap works. I didn’t have this problem with the last version. I will search for it to install it again.

Edit:
Nope, just installed 2.5.13 and still have a sitemap error. Is there a place to get an even older version or do I just need to go with mybb?

[Vinod Dalvi]

Sorry to hear of the problem you are having.

It is working fine on my test site without any issue.

Could you please try fixing the issue as described in the following pages?

https://codex.wordpress.org/Common_WordPress_Errors#Maximum_execution_time_exceeded
http://kb.wpbeaverbuilder.com/article/37-how-to-increase-the-wordpress-allowed-memory-size
http://www.wpbeginner.com/wp-tutorials/fix-wordpress-memory-exhausted-error-increase-php-memory/

You can also try using the below upcoming version 2.6 of bbPress.

https://downloads.wordpress.org/plugin/bbpress.2.6-rc-3.zip

[rogerlridge]

How do I get the date of when the topic was first created or get the date of the very first post in that topic because all I keep seeing are ways to display the date for the latest post which I don’t want. Any help is greatly appreciated! 😀

[Robin W]

In essence the core issue is that ‘with bbpress’ the ‘feed’ is showing the whole article, whereas without it is showing the excerpt which is what you want- is that correct?

Since bbpress has rss and a site does not need to have mailchimp to run rss, I presume that you could test if you have an issue without mailchimp, which would help eliminate (or otherwise) your theme and/or other plugins as contributing to the issue, but as I said earlier I’m not a mailchimp guy, so I may be talking crap.

Given that bbpress has over 300,000 active installations, and mailchimp 900,000 – I kinda presuming that if this was a common issue that it would be known about, as others would be running this combination.

I am trying to help you 🙂

[nwbus]

Hi @robin-w – please can you explain how to run that test?

[trackmypacks]

Hi everyone,
My forum is almost setup but I found one little issue which I don’t want to keep.I have tested as a participant that while linking any text,all core pages appear in the list.

For better understanding please take a look – http://prntscr.com/gk7oc2

My forum – http://ask.trackmypacks.com/

I don’t want to show these pages to any participant.Can anyone help me how to figure out this..

[tweichart]

just made an update to the latest 2.5.14 version, problem seems to be solved, thanks again 😉

[mariealline]

I just got notice when I went to the backend of my wordpress site that there was an update. It was a bbpress update, so I clicked to install it and it broke my website. I can’t get to the plugins page or anything to uninstall the update. Please help! Even the front end of my website is down. http://mariealline.com.

It looked like it installed correctly, but I get a HTTP ERROR 500 when I try to access my homepage or any other page on the website.

“Downloading update from https://downloads.wordpress.org/plugin/bbpress.2.5.14.zip…

Unpacking the update…

Installing the latest version…

Removing the old version of the plugin…

Plugin updated successfully.”

Thank you,
mariealline

[Dave]

I created several topics in the past months. None of them were acknowledged. So I’ll try here since this seems to an active thread.

#1. I appreciate the addition of per-forum moderators. I installed the latest RC, but could someone explain how this works – when a mod is assigned to a specific forum, does that person receive notifications, and if so, what are then notified about?

#2. Is it possible in any version of bbpress to batch subscribe WP users to specific forums?

Also, is there any documentation regarding the new features? I’m especially interested in anything moderator-related.

Thanks.

[Robin W]

probably theme issue.

try AS A TEST a default theme such as twenty seventeen, and see if the problem goes away

[fdarn]

Hello.
I am using the latest version of bbPress on WordPress 4.8.1
How do I remove the sidebar from the Forum pages?
Thank you

[Robin W]

just did a test, and yes I can’t work out how you contribute without having some privileges.

Hopefully one of the above will come back to you !

[Vinod Dalvi]

@sovvyg Please delete and reinstall the latest version of bbPress plugin. Also please clear the autoptimize cache that you are using on your site.

This can be your theme issue so to confirm it just temporary use the default WordPress theme like Twenty Seventeen on your site. If everything works fine then it’s your theme issue.

[Vinod Dalvi]

@fdarn Are you using this [bbp-forum-index] shortcode?

I have tested it on my test site using bbPress version 2.6-rc-3 and it is working fine for me.

[Vinod Dalvi]

I tested creating new user but still couldn’t reproduce the issue.

Let’s see what admin says in your trac ticket.

[sovvyg]

Hi Vinod,

thanks for getting back to me, unfortunately that has already been selected so is not the issue.. i have done a plugin conflict test and nothing changes. i’m stuck 🙁

Best
Lauren

[Vinod Dalvi]

It is also working fine on chrome browser. I don’t have safari browser to test it.

Could you please test it disabling all safari browser extensions or test it on another computer?

[zopfan]

My website, BathindaHelper.com has only test forums/topics as of now.