[John James Jacoby]

So 2.0 beta has been downloaded over 15k times, which is awesome. Feedback has been coming in steadily, and I’ve been holding an official RC because of a few odds and ends that are taking some time to figure out. Hoping to get some feedback on a few specific things:

Page Templates

The way WordPress works, page templates can work automagically if the template name matches a page slug. This is really convenient as it automatically acts like a page template without setting it, but can get in the way if you want to use a specific page slug and not have bbPress take it over. Example:

page-user-register.php

If you made a WordPress page with the unique slug ‘user-register’ WordPress would automatically use that template file for that page. So far I’ve purposely picked unlikely template names so they wouldn’t collide with existing slugs. But, if that same file was renamed to:

page-register.php

…all it would take is making a “Register” page and bbPress would automatically have a sign-up page with no shortcodes and no more work. The adverse to that convenience is if you want to customize your sign-up page beyond what bbPress provides, you’re looking at a totally custom theme.

This works with any template file in the root folder of a theme, so there are lots of possibilities. My goal is to satisfy the majority, so I’m thinking of heading in this direction and renaming the template files.

Multisite

At the moment, multisite integration works great, if you want to have individual bbPress forums with their own authorized users per forum. If you want to have all users have access to all forums in a multisite install, you’re currently out of luck. With multisite there are endless configuration options, and I see the use case for all of them.

Which do you prefer as the default? Users can access all forums, or users can only access forums for which they have a role on that specific site?

Search

Right now there is no interface for searching the bbPress 2.0 integrated forums. The original implementation got negative reviews because search results were site wide, showing blog entries, topics, and replies.

It’s currently possible to filter search results by post type (topic/reply) but most WordPress themes assume the search results will come from posts or pages, and as such aren’t styled to look like forum results, which is really confusing to the person performing the search. It’s also confusing to have multiple search boxes, or to need to pick what results you’re looking for.

How do you think it should work? Should forum results appear in your existing blog search? Should they be separated? Should there be some kind of ‘smart search’ that knows where the request came from, and only shows results based on the type of content you are looking at (blog/forum/other)?

Settings

The WordPress mantra is decisions over options, but creating something as large as a discussion forum within WordPress is going to come with at least a few settings. I think our settings page is starting to get out of hand. Should we break the one page up into a few, or leave it as 1 page with all options?

That’s what’s on my mind. If you’ve been using 2.0 for the past few weeks, your input would be much appreciated so these last few ends can be tied up and we can let this ship sail.

[pimarts]

Did you try making a page and putting one of the shortcodes in there?

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bbpress-20-shortcodes

[folgerj]

do we have any examples of registration forms that others are using.. I just saw the short codes this after noon and I am incorporating one into my next blog article. Right now I have the forum listing on the left side of my sidebar to let people know that it’s there..

I thought that by using the short code to put it into different posts I can get some traction there… Right now I have no real visitors for the most part… I would just like to get Fall foliage questions from visitors there since I’ve seen those questions come up in google searches already…

I’m not sure what it can do and If anyone wants to strut their stuff and post their forum, I’ll come take a look…

If I look at yours maybe you’ll come take a look at mine…

[Anonymous User 5853594]

@folgerj

There aren’t any plugins which interact directly with bbPress 2.0 as of yet, but they’ll probably pop up as soon as 2.0 goes gold.

What kind of added functions are you looking for anyway?

You can use a shortcode on a separate page to create a proper registration form. You can find all the current shortcodes on https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bbpress-20-shortcodes.

For theme support, you should take a look at https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bbpress-20-theme-compatibility.

Currently, only the bundled Twenty Ten child theme natively supports bbPress 2.0, but in compatibility mode, it should work with most themes.

[John James Jacoby]

Closed and unstickied. See the codex page for details.

* Forums

[bbp-forum-index] – Show the forum index/archive

[bbp-single-forum id=$forum_id] – Show a single forums topics

* Topics

[bbp-topic-index] – Show the topics index/archive

[bbp-topic-form] – Show the new topic form

[bbp-single-topic id=$topic_id] – Show a single topic

* Topic Tags

[bbp-topic-tags] – Show a tag cloud of all topic tags

[bbp-single-topic-tag] – Show the topics within a specific tag

* Replies

[bbp-reply-form] – Show the topic reply form

* Views

[bbp-single-view] – Show topics associated with a specific view

* Account

[bbp-login] – Show the login screen

[bbp-register] – Show the register screen

[bbp-lost-pass] – Show the lost password screen

[m-jay]

What is the purpose of the CODE button ?

I’m asking this beacause,

I need to allow people to post their Bandcamp players in our forums … Bandcamp offers iframe AND shortcode for wordpress.com … but those shortcodes are not compatible with my wordpress install …

Here you can see an example (clic on SHARE then WORDPRESS):

http://beatmakit.bandcamp.com/track/amnezic-demande-de-featuring

or here http://beatmakit.bandcamp.com/album/hip-hop-beatz

Is there a way I could use your toolbar to get bandcamp players work in bbpress Forums ?

PS. I tried to install the WP Bandcamp plugin, but it handles yet another shortcode ; not compatible with the SHARE option of the players …

[pimarts]

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bbpress-20-theme-compatibility

And there’s more in the bbp-core-shortcodes.php file.

[dobralog]

@Andre

Where I can find list of shortcodes like for example “[bbp-forum-index]“???

[pimarts]

The plugin is not finished yet, documentation will be made (available) when the plugin is done. For now you’ll have to look into the files and search this forum. Because this question has been answered already.

See https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bbpress-and-studiopress-genesis-can-someone-please-tell-me-if-this-works for instance.

In short: bbPress uses WordPress users, your users can register like they would normally for the WordPress installation. There are shortcodes for login / register pages though.

[pimarts]

domain/wp-login.php?action=register should do the trick.

There are shortcodes for the following though, so you might be able to make your own register page (I’m running bbPress in combination with BuddyPress so I don’t need it):

[bbp-login]

[bbp-register]

[bbp-lost-pass]

[pimarts]

I didn’t test these myself, but in the bbp-core-shortcodes.php file (of RC1 from the trac) it states the following shortcodes:

[bbp-login][

[bbp-register]

[bbp-lost-pass]

So those might work.

[Malfunction]

Try this:

[bbp-single-forum id="A forum ID"] – Show a specific forum

There are more shortcodes available here:

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bbpress-20-theme-compatibility

[John James Jacoby]

@bradsucks – So, I’ve put some thought into the situation that you’re in, and RC1 will include some tweaks to how this works which will hopefully help.

The issue, is that we want to make it easy to get forums up and running, without a bunch of configuration, and the easiest way to do that is let WordPress handle things naturally, and display the forum archives when you navigate to:

domain.com/%forum_slug%/

But… everyone wants to customize the way their forums look and work (even me) so that isn’t always optimal, and there is only so much you can do before the real answer involves creating your row custom theme.

Anyways, before the archive templates were created in bbp-twentyten, a page-template was used to let you put your forums anywhere in the page hierarchy of your site that you want, but that wasn’t obvious enough and not everyone wants to use the hardcoded template file either.

So then I introduced shortcodes, which allow you to put your forums and topics in any post or page you choose, but if you do that, there’s no real way for bbPress to *know* where you put your forum root in the breadcrumb without you manually telling it in the forum settings.

As you can see, it’s gotten complicated to try to satisfy the golden 80%, including myself.

Part of the change that is coming in RC1 is a check to see if a WordPress page exists where you have configured your forum index to be. Normally WordPress would override and show the forums archive, but I make it dump out your page instead. This way you’re able to setup a WP page with whatever you want in it, and have it do whatever you tell it to. The potential caveat here is when people try outsmart the software, create a page with the ‘forums’ slug, and wonder why bbPress doesn’t automatically make forums appear there.

Hopefully RC1 and beyond will satisfy the needs of 80% of users. If so, I’m satisfied supporting the other 20% that want something more tricked out.

[Andre]

I’m not enough of a coder to be much help, but I would start here https://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org/browser/branches/plugin/bbp-includes/bbp-core-shortcodes.php

[Steve]

Someone delete “wealthmass” looks like a load of spam

@anointed here is the link to the CSS file thats currently in use

http://www.streetphire.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/themes/funki/style.css

there is also

http://www.streetphire.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/themes/funki/themify/css/shortcodes.css

http://www.streetphire.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/themes/funki/media-queries.css

and the BBPress one

http://www.streetphire.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/plugins/bbpress/bbp-themes/bbp-twentyten/css/bbpress.css?ver=3.1.3

Cheers

Steve

[Anonymous User 5853594]

@JJJ

Will it become possible to use shortcodes from other plugins for WP?

For example the Polldaddy’s shortcodes for embedding polls and such.

[Ricardo]

Is there a private messaging plugin for bbPress 2.0 plugin branch?

Not sure but since bbpress uses the wordpress “users data” won’t PM pluggins designed for wordpress work with bbpress?

https://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/private-messages-for-wordpress/

a link on the forum ponting to http://www.domain.com/wp-admin would take users to their outbox. Not a complete and integrated solution but i think it works untill a full pluggin is developed or we could ask that pluggin developer to create shortcodes that show on bbpress if there are new messages or not and a link to see them.

[Ricardo]

I’m using a child theme, bbpress v3327, copied the contents of bbp-twentytento the child theme directory, creted a page “forums” assigned bbpress index template to it but it doesnt show the forum index unless i use the shortcodes, created some forums and topics inside of them and it doesnt show either the forums when i click on them or the topics, individual links don’t work.

Forum index (shortcode enabled)

http://www.ricardouk.com/forums

Individual forum permalink (not working):

http://www.ricardouk.com/forums/forum/regras-de-utilizacao-do-forum

individual forum link (partially not working, just shows the content)

http://www.ricardouk.com/forums/topic/como-efectuar-o-registo-neste-forum

all of this was working with beta 2

[John James Jacoby]

I’ve been tweaking the breadcrumbs, trying to find the sweet spot. There’s starting to be a lot of possible ways to display the forum archives now. With page templates, archives, shortcodes, etc… it’s hard to know what is the actual root and where.

I think I’ve got it dialed in for Beta 3. I spent the majority of last night testing all of the above scenarios.

[John James Jacoby]

I haven’t quite figured out the best way to reliably integrate the login/register/lost-password pages into theme compatibility yet. The tentative plan is to finish up their shortcodes so they can be used on any page and ready for 2.0.

[Kye]

The addition of shortcodes will most certainly make it easier for users to embed the forums as they please and see fit….

One thing I would like to see though is the addition of a shortcodes icon within the page/post editors for ease of use, this could be extended to allow you to select the specific forum to build a shortcode string.

When used within a multisite environment it would also lower the amount of confusion as it would most likely also do in single installations. Although shortcodes are simple enough, not everyone is so web savvy.

Simplicity with a forum shortcode insert button would certainly make it much easier and eye pleasing without to much more code. Please!!!!

Thanks for all the great work here!

[Kye]

The addition of shortcodes will most certainly make it easier for users to embed the forums as they please and see fit….

One thing I would like to see though is the addition of a shortcodes icon within the page/post editors for ease of use, this could be extended to allow you to select the specific forum to build a shortcode string.

When used within a multisite environment it would also lower the amount of confusion as it would most likely also do in single installations. Although shortcodes are simple enough, not everyone is so web savvy.

Simplicity with a forum shortcode insert button would certainly make it much easier and eye pleasing without to much more code. Please!!!!

Thanks for all the great work here!

[Susan Hope]

Starting a new thread here at the request of John James for any issues with iThemes Builder.

Some information from my previous report:

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Yes, the actual shortcodes themselves appear on the published page on the site and I think I should have said, I am using iThemes Builder with a child theme, up to date version of WP..

Also, the actual forum when you click to view it from the main index one (which is appearing fine and where it should) is appearing at the top of the site above the header, which is why I am trying the shortcode route. In my case though I have used “Widget Content” which comes with builder to create the header area.

I have two other plugins that produced the same kind of thing, in that they appeared fine where they were meant to, “sexybookmarks” at the end of a post BUT also would appear in any location I had used “Widget Content” which was the header area and sidebar areas and also a paypal plugin and to get around that I added this code to the end of my child css:

.widget-content .paypal-form {

display: none;

}

Which stopped it appearing in content widget areas, so the first thing I tried for this was the same code but changing the “.paypal-form to one for bbPress – I had used firebug lite (chrome) to try and find the correct name that should go there and I don’t think I found the right name.

Yep shortcode helper would be good, thanks John.. do you need any more info?

Sue

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Hope that is enough information for my particular problem John?

Thanks

Sue

[John James Jacoby]

@SHope – You’re okay. It sounds like you’re using the shortcodes correctly, but that something else isn’t working. I think I’m going to build in a shortcode helper, because I realize finding the ID isn’t the easiest thing to do.

On the pages you’re using the shortcodes on, does anything appear where the shortcodes should be?

[John James Jacoby]

@SHope – You’re okay. It sounds like you’re using the shortcodes correctly, but that something else isn’t working. I think I’m going to build in a shortcode helper, because I realize finding the ID isn’t the easiest thing to do.

On the pages you’re using the shortcodes on, does anything appear where the shortcodes should be?