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I just said that is was set and at that time there were no open tickets for 1.0.3 as far as I remember (and it was new then). Also, it is Gautam.
Not really following you completely, but from what it sounds like, you just keep proving that nothing in TRAC is reliable. Deadlines aren’t met, or even cared about really, tickets are ignored by those in power, (let alone shared with the public, and NO, 99% of users don’t know about TRAC)… and overall, coordination is appalling, at best.
If you choose to hold onto the wishful idea that TRAC and deadlines and work are all peachy keen and your work is worthwhile, then by all means, keep going… ignorance is bliss after all. Hell if I worked as hard as some of you guys, I would be spitting bullets about now…
So since Kevin wants me to address specifics, here are my questions, to the entire bbpress community:
1) When is 1.0.3 coming out. Seriously. What day? (when I check the “bbpress company blog” I seem to only see hacked up IRC chat logs from 5 months back… so much for “official sounding” posts, huh!)
2) Who (names?) has editing rights to bbpress.org?
3) Is bbpress definitely becoming a WP plugin?
4) If bbpress becomes a WP plugin, will it also remain standalone?
5) How will bbpress plugins be integrated into a proposed WP plugin?
6) What exactly is backpress, and what is it’s status?
7) Who (names?) is in charge of updates/commits/releases for bbpress at this moment?
How can plugin devs update their bbpress plugins and stay in touch with higher ups?That should be enough for now. Please, no condescending answers, since we are aiming for “maturity” in this thread from here on out. This is not just for me, but the community, remember. Even if I’m an immature idiot with false hope…
Regarding bbpress.org edit privileges, AGAIN… who the hell has them? another example of matt not being clear, or at least proof that whoever HAS edit privileges (maybe the few you mentioned) don’t give a rat’s arse about listening to feedback.
I think chris atleast has the power to make blog posts, but I think he shouldn’t as blog posts are taken as official announcements which should be made only by the people of the company of the project.
Also. IM SICK of people saying “look at TRAC… look at TRAC” … who the hell looks at TRAC? And who the hell actually listens to and implements what is said on TRAC (re: bbpress)? Nobody and barely anybody with power, respectively! TRAC is mostly time wasted back and forth and tickets eventually being rejected or closed by matt or others, or shoved off into the big, vague, undefined world of “backpress.”
Developers look at trac! Just look at log and see how many commits chrishajer has made in the recent weeks to fix bugs. This para is 100% insane and totally wrong!
THERE IS NO POINT to contribute to trac when matt IGNORES EVERYTHING and nothing has gotten anywhere for 2 friggin years. Why funnel feedback to the top of the chain when only one person, who doesn’t care or listen anyway, is the only person able to activate them?
You haven’t been in the community for long (as you said in one of your previous replies) or not keeping a tab on the developments, so I prefer you to keep your mouth closed.
@Gautam, what due date was set for 1.0.3 cuz I have never come across one, and I know about 20,000 users who would love to know as well.
Check it yourself (don’t be so lazy) – https://trac.bbpress.org/milestone/1.0.3
For me, it comes down to this:
In my opinion there’s no point in getting developers for a project, and then adding someone to Manage it above them because there’s a fairly good chance that the project plan will not be what the developer had in mind.
The best plan, and again I’m biased, would be to get a group of like minded folks with a vision and have someone lead it, and lay out a plan, and then find a developer(s) who would want to join that project.
That way you’re getting a developer(s), who knows in advance what they’re getting themselves in for
Being able to share the same message from top (PM) to bottom (community) enables growth and ease of people joining. It encourages all thats good about Open Source Software.
I learnt that from Automattic
They’ve dropped the ball here, thats all. If they don’t pick it up, someone will. But posts ripping into Matt as a person don’t help anyone
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Look, i’m not wanting to jump the gun here.
I think this is a really bad time to have this discussion. 1.0.3 is nearing release, and with it will bring bugs and questions and uproar that is both good “bbPress is saved” and bad “bbPress is doomed” and any good/useful conversation is going to be undermined.
Lets get 1.0.3 out the door, lets avoid posts like one from the orignal author, and lets see where the chips lie after the bulls in the china shop have left and the dust has settled (bulls being WP3 and bbPress1.0.3)
Thats just my opinion though, I’m sure there are many here who have both other opinions and much better opinions. Especially those not replying to froum posts at now 4.30am ;-]
Good night all, sleep well!
I dont own, and never have owned a mac; nor joined peace corp; nor saved Africa. But thanks, you have made me laugh alot tonight
It’s usually me who write these stupid things on this forum, it’s nice to not be the daft one for a change, and man, it’s a huge change haha!
we are on the same team yo!
I’m hereby submitting a formal transfer request. I’ll join any team apart from Rangers
With respect, If you think I’ve sucked up to anyone – especially Matt or Automattic people – you’ve really not read alot of my posts. I’ve been very forward, blunt and vocal about Matt dropping the ball on this, not only on this site but on others.
That doesn’t mean I’m going to agree with you, or anyone else, when you insulting someone’s person. Thats not sucking up, thats just being decent. Everyone’s entitled to their opinion.
Matt has messed up. But he’s human, and this is a collaborative effort. You can’t put the blame for everything that goes wrong on one person. Or you can, but in the end you’re only going to alienate yourself from people who have the same goal.
That’s the whole point people, we all built the code and all the plugins
Did “WE”?
You know Matt wrote bbPress right?
You know Matt’s emplyees then fixes bbpress (albeit in an adhoc manner) until bbpress 0.8.3, right?
You know Matt then paid for a ‘full time’ developer for bbPress (Sam Bauers) for a year, right?
Matt is directly/indirectly responsible for more code than anyone else on this project.
Yes, he’s causing more issues than he’s solving right now, and yeah it’s annoying; but insulting his person by saying he doesn’t have Brains or Heart is just childish. And bluntly, unhelpful.
Notice how this site’s Alexa rate is a steady 12k… the entire world is waiting on this mates!
Lets be honest, the entire world isn’t waiting for this. I’ve spent a large chunk of time in Africa volunteering, building schools and basic irrigation. “The World” doesn’t care. We care, but its’ just forum software. Lets look at this in perspective.
Look, if you want Matt/AutoMattic/Developers/bbPress-community/Santa to come together or move forward in a particular direction thats cool. But making grandeous statements like this with no hard facts or suggestions doesn’t help at all. Half of what you said in your second post is so wrong it’s unreal. Honestly, if you want change and you want to help, cool. But don’t just spout facts and conclusions that you’ve made up.
we are on the same team yo!
I… I’m not sure what to say to that.
Can I change teams? Or can we vote people off?
Ah BackPress.
Like Marrying my high school sweetheart it was a wonderful idea at the time, that somehow comes back to bite me on the behind every damned day ever since ;-]
(here’s hoping she doesn’t google me!!)
Mr Pelle,
I truly believe that bbPress is a grand little product, it’s so flexible and extendable that it’s potential in unbridaled. if your forum doesn’t requite alot of moderation, then I can’t think of anything better than bbPress.
It’s just hampered by no management and no communication, which I feel only exasperate/exagerate it’s problems. And this comes from the the moany SoB who points them out
bbpress 1.0.3/1.1 (cos we’ve no-one in charge to make the decision to release anything) contains a great number of bug fixes that have plagued bbPress for too long. All small, all annoying and great to get them out of the road. Even if you don’t need the 2 new** features, it will be a good thing when this comes out and you upgrade.
I’m all for pointing out mistakes, and keepingon top of this to geet things released, and maybe get some answers out of someone at some time (Seriously, 6 months per blog post – crazy from the company behind WordPress blogging platform) and then we’ll take stock and see what happens then.
** they’re not new, we’d had them for years as plugins. God himself only knows why we couldn’t have a bug fix release instead, then work on new features. But that requires stakeholders to be consulted and decisions to be made…
Gareth Gates earned a bit over of leway in the Gallagher household for Jordan, but Stuart McCall… y’all are going to hell of keeping him alive/busy for a while longer
Anyway, what you want is to make sure that your bbPress config file has the same info as teh wordpress config file for each of these below
in WordPress
define( 'DB_NAME', 'database_name' );
/** MySQL database username */
define( ‘DB_USER’, ‘user_name’ );
/** MySQL database password */
define( ‘DB_PASSWORD’, ‘password’ );
/** MySQL hostname */
define( ‘DB_HOST’, ‘localhost’ );
/** Database Charset to use in creating database tables. */
define( ‘DB_CHARSET’, ‘utf8’ );
/** The Database Collate type. Don’t change this if in doubt. */
define( ‘DB_COLLATE’, ” );
in bbPress
define( 'BBDB_NAME', 'database_name' );
/** MySQL database username */
define( ‘BBDB_USER’, ‘user_name’ );
/** MySQL database password */
define( ‘BBDB_PASSWORD’, ‘password’ );
/** MySQL hostname */
define( ‘BBDB_HOST’, ‘localhost’ );
/** Database Charset to use in creating database tables. */
define( ‘BBDB_CHARSET’, ‘utf8’ );
/** The Database Collate type. Don’t change this if in doubt. */
define( ‘BBDB_COLLATE’, ” );
If they are the same, then I’m a bit clueless right now
A Bradford man eh? I was down there on thursday.
Anyway, welcome to bbPress.
What you want to do here is look at your WordPress config file (wp-config.php) that is already on your website (i am presuming here that you’re wanting to add a forum for appertunity.com – or at least on the same server).
You will see what it has for each of the details that you filled in for the corresponding bb-config.php file. that should give you some insight as to what the database settings should be
Topic: 6 months without a blog post
Just a quick reminder, that we’ve now reached 6 months without a blog post on bbPress (13th Jan to 13th Jun).
And we haven’t been able to type code on the forum for the last 3 weeks, and 30% of the pages in the new theme haven’t actually been ported over; and basic links in the header and footer are no longer working.
I have the following code on my front page to display the topics:
<?php if ( $topics ) : foreach ( $topics as $topic ) : ?>
<li<?php topic_class(); ?>>
<span class="left">
<strong><?php bb_topic_labels(); ?> <big><a href="<?php topic_link(); ?>"><?php topic_title(); ?></a></big><?php topic_page_links(); ?></strong>
<span class="time"><a href="<?php topic_last_post_link(); ?>"><?php topic_time(); ?> ago</a> in <a href="<?php forum_link(); ?>"><?php forum_name(); ?></a></span>
</span>
<span class="author">by <a href="<?php post_author_title_link(); ?>"><?php topic_last_poster(); ?></a></span>
</li>
<?php endforeach; endif; // $topics ?>BUT the forum_link, forum_name, and post_author_title_link functions do not work. Any ideas how I can get them to work on the front page or use alternative functions to show this information.
Thanks.
