[driz]

If I’m not logged in then that code shows 0 but when I visit the profile page of a user the avatar will change to that of the profile I’m viewing.

If I’m logged in then I get the following mess:

BP_User Object ( [data] => stdClass Object ( [ID] => 1 [user_login] => cameron [user_pass] => $P$B1pN/b8ZvQpPDtPILqpJCPqT4M4F0f/ [user_nicename] => cameron [user_email] => EMAILREMOVED [user_url] => http://www.paperviewmagazine.com/members/cameron/ [user_registered] => 2010-04-16 22:27:31 [user_activation_key] => [user_status] => 0 [display_name] => Cameron [spam] => 0 [deleted] => 0 [aim] => [yim] => [jabber] => [use_ssl] => 0 [nickname] => Cameron [chat_hide] => true [mini_track] => Sat, 12 Jun 2010 04:39:24 -0700 [first_name] => Cameron [description] => This is some information about me [admin_color] => fresh [rich_editing] => true [primary_blog] => 2 [last_activity] => 2010-06-14 14:53:08 [source_domain] => www.paperviewmagazine.com [pvwp_user_level] => 10 [bp_latest_update] => Array ( [id] => 1 [content] => Test status message ) [bb_user_settings] => m0=c&m1=c [pvwp_4_user_level] => 0 [pvwp_1_user_level] => 1 [pvbb_capabilities] => Array ( [keymaster] => 1 [throttle] => 1 ) [capabilities] => Array ( [keymaster] => 1 [throttle] => 1 ) [pvwp_7_user_level] => 0 [pvwp_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [comment_shortcuts] => false [pvwp_6_user_level] => 0 [pvwp_5_user_level] => 0 [pvwp_8_user_level] => 0 [pvwp_2_user_level] => 0 [pvwp_3_user_level] => 0 [pvwp_12_user_level] => 10 [pvwp_user-settings] => m5=c&m6=c&m9=c&m0=c&m10=c&m8=o&m7=c&m1=c&m2=c&editor=tinymce&hidetb=1&m11=c&m3=c&m12=c&m13=c&m4=c [pvwp_13_user_level] => 10 [pvwp_11_user_level] => 10 [pvwp_10_user_level] => 10 [pvwp_1_capabilities] => Array ( [contributor] => 1 ) [pvwp_8_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvbb_topics_replied] => 13 [topics_replied] => 13 [pvwp_6_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_7_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_3_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_4_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_2_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_5_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [bp_liked_activities] => Array ( [1] => activity_liked [3] => activity_liked ) [pvwp_7_user-settings] => m5=c&m6=c&m9=c&m0=c&m10=c&m8=c&m7=c&m1=c&m2=c&editor=tinymce&hidetb=1&m11=c&m3=c&m12=o&m13=c&m4=c [pvwp_11_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_13_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_10_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_12_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_3_user-settings] => m5=c&m6=c&m9=c&m0=c&m10=c&m8=o&m7=c&m1=c&m2=c&editor=tinymce&hidetb=1&m11=c&m3=o [pvwp_4_user-settings] => m5=c&m6=c&m9=c&m0=o&m10=c&m8=c&m7=c&m1=c&m2=c [pvwp_2_user-settings] => m5=c&m6=c&m9=c&m0=c&m10=c&m8=c&m7=c&m1=c&m2=o&editor=tinymce&hidetb=1&m11=c&m3=c&m12=c&m13=c&m4=c [bb_user_settings_time] => 1276463427 [pvwp_10_user-settings] => m5=c&m6=c&m9=o&m0=c&m10=c&m8=c&m7=c&m1=c&m2=c&editor=tinymce&hidetb=1&m11=o&m3=o&m12=c [screen_layout_dashboard] => 1 [metaboxhidden_dashboard] => Array ( [0] => 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[pvwp_dashboard_quick_press_last_post_id] => 51 [pvwp_7_dashboard_quick_press_last_post_id] => 6 [pvwp_3_dashboard_quick_press_last_post_id] => 63 [pvwp_10_dashboard_quick_press_last_post_id] => 3 ) [ID] => 1 [id] => 1 [caps] => Array ( [keymaster] => 1 [throttle] => 1 ) [cap_key] => pvbb_capabilities [roles] => Array ( [0] => keymaster ) [allcaps] => Array ( [use_keys] => 1 [administrate] => 1 [moderate] => 1 [participate] => 1 [keep_gate] => 1 [import_export] => 1 [recount] => 1 [manage_options] => 1 [manage_themes] => 1 [manage_plugins] => 1 [edit_users] => 1 [manage_tags] => 1 [edit_others_favorites] => 1 [manage_forums] => 1 [delete_forums] => 1 [delete_topics] => 1 [close_topics] => 1 [stick_topics] => 1 [move_topics] => 1 [view_by_ip] => 1 [edit_closed] => 1 [edit_deleted] => 1 [browse_deleted] => 1 [edit_others_tags] => 1 [edit_others_topics] => 1 [delete_posts] => 1 [throttle] => 1 [ignore_edit_lock] => 1 [edit_others_posts] => 1 [edit_favorites] => 1 [edit_tags] => 1 [edit_topics] => 1 [edit_posts] => 1 [edit_profile] => 1 [write_topics] => 1 [write_posts] => 1 [change_password] => 1 [read] => 1 [keymaster] => 1 ) [first_name] => Cameron [last_name] => [user_login] => cameron [user_pass] => $P$B1pN/b8ZvQpPDtPILqpJCPqT4M4F0f/ [user_nicename] => cameron [user_email] => EMAILREMOVED [user_url] => http://www.paperviewmagazine.com/members/cameron/ [user_registered] => 2010-04-16 22:27:31 [user_activation_key] => [user_status] => 0 [display_name] => Cameron [spam] => 0 [deleted] => 0 [aim] => [yim] => [jabber] => [use_ssl] => 0 [nickname] => Cameron [chat_hide] => true [mini_track] => Sat, 12 Jun 2010 04:39:24 -0700 [description] => This is some information about me [admin_color] => fresh [rich_editing] => true [primary_blog] => 2 [last_activity] => 2010-06-14 14:53:08 [source_domain] => www.paperviewmagazine.com [pvwp_user_level] => 10 [bp_latest_update] => Array ( [id] => 1 [content] => Test status message ) [bb_user_settings] => m0=c&m1=c [pvwp_4_user_level] => 0 [pvwp_1_user_level] => 1 [pvbb_capabilities] => Array ( [keymaster] => 1 [throttle] => 1 ) [capabilities] => Array ( [keymaster] => 1 [throttle] => 1 ) [pvwp_7_user_level] => 0 [pvwp_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [comment_shortcuts] => false [pvwp_6_user_level] => 0 [pvwp_5_user_level] => 0 [pvwp_8_user_level] => 0 [pvwp_2_user_level] => 0 [pvwp_3_user_level] => 0 [pvwp_12_user_level] => 10 [pvwp_user-settings] => m5=c&m6=c&m9=c&m0=c&m10=c&m8=o&m7=c&m1=c&m2=c&editor=tinymce&hidetb=1&m11=c&m3=c&m12=c&m13=c&m4=c [pvwp_13_user_level] => 10 [pvwp_11_user_level] => 10 [pvwp_10_user_level] => 10 [pvwp_1_capabilities] => Array ( [contributor] => 1 ) [pvwp_8_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvbb_topics_replied] => 13 [topics_replied] => 13 [pvwp_6_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_7_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_3_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_4_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_2_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_5_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [bp_liked_activities] => Array ( [1] => activity_liked [3] => activity_liked ) [pvwp_7_user-settings] => m5=c&m6=c&m9=c&m0=c&m10=c&m8=c&m7=c&m1=c&m2=c&editor=tinymce&hidetb=1&m11=c&m3=c&m12=o&m13=c&m4=c [pvwp_11_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_13_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_10_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_12_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_3_user-settings] => m5=c&m6=c&m9=c&m0=c&m10=c&m8=o&m7=c&m1=c&m2=c&editor=tinymce&hidetb=1&m11=c&m3=o [pvwp_4_user-settings] => m5=c&m6=c&m9=c&m0=o&m10=c&m8=c&m7=c&m1=c&m2=c [pvwp_2_user-settings] => m5=c&m6=c&m9=c&m0=c&m10=c&m8=c&m7=c&m1=c&m2=o&editor=tinymce&hidetb=1&m11=c&m3=c&m12=c&m13=c&m4=c [bb_user_settings_time] => 1276463427 [pvwp_10_user-settings] => 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[kevinjohngallagher]

I am mate, the function bb_get_avatar() returns either your Gravatar or the default gravar that you specified in your admin section under Settings / Discussion.

In order for that to happen you have to type in the code I’ve given you above. I’ve got it working right now, i’m looking at it.

It’s not working for you for some reason I can’t replicate, so you need to debug the array and look to se what’s happening with print_r($bb_current_user) – and we’ll try from there.

[kevinjohngallagher]

offs – my bad, i’m so sorry.

I mean print_r been swapping languages too much this weekend.

On my version, the avatar I get shown on every page is my own, even other profiles.

I actually haven’t written the code to get teh grey man, just to test/output my own avatar.

[driz]

that code throws an error Call to undefined function print_f()

The avatar shows correct every but when viewing the profile page, it’s as though bbPress treats that as the current user and changes the avatar.

You say you get your own avatar when viewing a profile, what happens if you view the same profile but logged out? Do you get mystery man or the profiles avatar?

[kevinjohngallagher]

I can’t replicate that I’m afraid.

I’m looking at the profile page of a different user and I’m getting my own Avatar.

add this before your code and read the output:

print_f($bb_current_user)

It should give you a bit of insight.

[chrishajer]

I asked Matt 3 weeks or so ago if we should release 1.0.3 or 1.1 (and what to do with the couple patches in the 0.9 branch) and this was his response:

I don’t think we should update the 0.9 branch anymore, and probably not 1.0 either. (Same as WP.) If 1.1 is ready let’s get it out the door.

[kevinjohngallagher]

Oh, thats a good workaround too Gautam; i didn’t know if they got parsed by the MO or not, as they’re in the front-end.

EDIT: MO, not PO. D’oh

[Gautam Gupta]

1) When is 1.0.3 coming out. Seriously. What day? (when I check the “bbpress company blog” I seem to only see hacked up IRC chat logs from 5 months back… so much for “official sounding” posts, huh!)

I had sent a mail to Matt a few hours back, lets wait for sometime.

2) Who (names?) has editing rights to bbpress.org?

Chris (I am not sure), matt, mdawaffe.

3) Is bbpress definitely becoming a WP plugin?

There are 90% chances for this.

4) If bbpress becomes a WP plugin, will it also remain standalone?

5) How will bbpress plugins be integrated into a proposed WP plugin?

As bbPress is not in the plugin phase, there is no roadmap for this (for the time being). Also check https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bbpress-as-a-wordpress-plugin-thoughts

6) What exactly is backpress, and what is it’s status?

Check http://backpress.org/ There were also some developments in it about 2 weeks back.

7) Who (names?) is in charge of updates/commits/releases for bbpress at this moment?

Matt, mdawaffe, filosofo (inactive), chrishajer. Don’t know about anyone else.

How can plugin devs update their bbpress plugins and stay in touch with higher ups?

What do you mean by “higher ups”?

[kevinjohngallagher]

If you’re looking for a bit more control over things, you could do this:

$global $bb_current_user;

$profile_link = get_user_profile_link( $bb_current_user->ID );

$profile_avatar = bb_get_avatar($bb_current_user->ID, 100);

Ok, it’s not letting me put links in, but that’ll allow you to output the code as you wish

[kevinjohngallagher]

Ok, “$user” is blank/empty for some reason, it’s not even a global that needs to be redefined. I’m sure I’ve fixed this elsewhere, let me hunt around some of my forums and get back to you

EDIT: it’s $bb_current_user

Apparently, we wanted to be as different from wordpress as possible

global $bb_current_user;

echo bb_get_avatar($bb_current_user->ID, 100);

[driz]

Thanks, those worked great. Had to change the author link though as that function spits out the anchor tags itself.

I used this if anyone is interested:

<a href="<?php user_profile_link( $topic->topic_last_poster ); ?>"><?php topic_last_poster(); ?></a>

Another quick question though, I’m try to show the gravatar for a logged in user in the header and the mystery man if not logged in. This is teh code I have so far, but it’s not working very well, it always shows the mystery man and shows the avatar of the profile your viewing and not the logged in user.

<?php if ( $avatar = bb_get_avatar( $user->ID,$size='48' ) ) : ?>

<?php echo $avatar; ?>

<?php unset($avatar); endif; ?>

Thanks

[wtfmatt]

@Gautam*

I just said that is was set and at that time there were no open tickets for 1.0.3 as far as I remember (and it was new then). Also, it is Gautam.

Not really following you completely, but from what it sounds like, you just keep proving that nothing in TRAC is reliable. Deadlines aren’t met, or even cared about really, tickets are ignored by those in power, (let alone shared with the public, and NO, 99% of users don’t know about TRAC)… and overall, coordination is appalling, at best.

If you choose to hold onto the wishful idea that TRAC and deadlines and work are all peachy keen and your work is worthwhile, then by all means, keep going… ignorance is bliss after all. Hell if I worked as hard as some of you guys, I would be spitting bullets about now…

So since Kevin wants me to address specifics, here are my questions, to the entire bbpress community:

1) When is 1.0.3 coming out. Seriously. What day? (when I check the “bbpress company blog” I seem to only see hacked up IRC chat logs from 5 months back… so much for “official sounding” posts, huh!)

2) Who (names?) has editing rights to bbpress.org?

3) Is bbpress definitely becoming a WP plugin?

4) If bbpress becomes a WP plugin, will it also remain standalone?

5) How will bbpress plugins be integrated into a proposed WP plugin?

6) What exactly is backpress, and what is it’s status?

7) Who (names?) is in charge of updates/commits/releases for bbpress at this moment?

How can plugin devs update their bbpress plugins and stay in touch with higher ups?

That should be enough for now. Please, no condescending answers, since we are aiming for “maturity” in this thread from here on out. This is not just for me, but the community, remember. Even if I’m an immature idiot with false hope…

[Gautam Gupta]

Regarding bbpress.org edit privileges, AGAIN… who the hell has them? another example of matt not being clear, or at least proof that whoever HAS edit privileges (maybe the few you mentioned) don’t give a rat’s arse about listening to feedback.

I think chris atleast has the power to make blog posts, but I think he shouldn’t as blog posts are taken as official announcements which should be made only by the people of the company of the project.

Also. IM SICK of people saying “look at TRAC… look at TRAC” … who the hell looks at TRAC? And who the hell actually listens to and implements what is said on TRAC (re: bbpress)? Nobody and barely anybody with power, respectively! TRAC is mostly time wasted back and forth and tickets eventually being rejected or closed by matt or others, or shoved off into the big, vague, undefined world of “backpress.”

Developers look at trac! Just look at log and see how many commits chrishajer has made in the recent weeks to fix bugs. This para is 100% insane and totally wrong!

THERE IS NO POINT to contribute to trac when matt IGNORES EVERYTHING and nothing has gotten anywhere for 2 friggin years. Why funnel feedback to the top of the chain when only one person, who doesn’t care or listen anyway, is the only person able to activate them?

You haven’t been in the community for long (as you said in one of your previous replies) or not keeping a tab on the developments, so I prefer you to keep your mouth closed.

@Gautam, what due date was set for 1.0.3 cuz I have never come across one, and I know about 20,000 users who would love to know as well.

Check it yourself (don’t be so lazy) – https://trac.bbpress.org/milestone/1.0.3

[Gautam Gupta]

Please chmod your my-templates folder (and also sub-folders and files) to 755. That would fix the problem.

[kevinjohngallagher]

For me, it comes down to this:

In my opinion there’s no point in getting developers for a project, and then adding someone to Manage it above them because there’s a fairly good chance that the project plan will not be what the developer had in mind.

The best plan, and again I’m biased, would be to get a group of like minded folks with a vision and have someone lead it, and lay out a plan, and then find a developer(s) who would want to join that project.

That way you’re getting a developer(s), who knows in advance what they’re getting themselves in for

Being able to share the same message from top (PM) to bottom (community) enables growth and ease of people joining. It encourages all thats good about Open Source Software.

I learnt that from Automattic

They’ve dropped the ball here, thats all. If they don’t pick it up, someone will. But posts ripping into Matt as a person don’t help anyone

=============================================================

Look, i’m not wanting to jump the gun here.

I think this is a really bad time to have this discussion. 1.0.3 is nearing release, and with it will bring bugs and questions and uproar that is both good “bbPress is saved” and bad “bbPress is doomed” and any good/useful conversation is going to be undermined.

Lets get 1.0.3 out the door, lets avoid posts like one from the orignal author, and lets see where the chips lie after the bulls in the china shop have left and the dust has settled (bulls being WP3 and bbPress1.0.3)

Thats just my opinion though, I’m sure there are many here who have both other opinions and much better opinions. Especially those not replying to froum posts at now 4.30am ;-]

Good night all, sleep well!

[kevinjohngallagher]

Nope,

We hardcoded alot of stuff into the core.

That said, it’s in a Javascript file, so you could change it without messing up any of the PHP running bbPress, or you could try and overwrite it with another jQuery plugin or code to overwrite the option for confirmPostDelete inbbTopicJS.

I’ve not played around with jQuery since 1.1 so can’t talk with any authority on doing so, but I’m sure it’s possible.

[Greg]

I’m not particularly fond of your generalization about developer communication skills. That’s not my experience at all. It is just an ignorant stereotype.

That said, devs are necessary but not sufficient. I agree a lead is essential. My point is that talking about forking the code without committed devs is ridiculous.

Instead of complaining (justified though it may be) we need to identify the developers who are interested and capable of driving bbPress forward.

[chrishajer]

I can commit code. You can look through the recent commits and see the others:

mdawaffe

filosofo

matt

sambauers

[johnhiler]

There’s some real passion here, which is great! There’s nothing stopping any of us from forking the code… that’s how WordPress was started after all. A fork of b2.

I want to go back to an important point that was raised earlier.

Matt isn’t taking us all out to dinner?!??

[kevinjohngallagher]

I dont own, and never have owned a mac; nor joined peace corp; nor saved Africa. But thanks, you have made me laugh alot tonight

It’s usually me who write these stupid things on this forum, it’s nice to not be the daft one for a change, and man, it’s a huge change haha!

we are on the same team yo!

I’m hereby submitting a formal transfer request. I’ll join any team apart from Rangers

[kevinjohngallagher]

Basically Terence,

If you know you’re way around WordPress and are good at theming or hacking some code into a fucntions.php file, then you’ll find bbPress easy to set up and get going.

Looking into the future of bbPress is never going to help. It doesn’t have a project lead, other than the Wizard of Oz (every 6 months there is a voice from behind the curtain that everyone bows down to). But it’s open source software, it’s never going to go away, and the next version does have some great little fixes.

My biggest suggestion is this: How busy will your forum be, and how much moderation will it need? bbPress fails at helping you moderate your site once it gets very busy.

Knowing it’s faults though, it’s still my go to bit of software for forums where I’m expecting less than 100 posts a day.

Kev

[kevinjohngallagher]

With respect, If you think I’ve sucked up to anyone – especially Matt or Automattic people – you’ve really not read alot of my posts. I’ve been very forward, blunt and vocal about Matt dropping the ball on this, not only on this site but on others.

That doesn’t mean I’m going to agree with you, or anyone else, when you insulting someone’s person. Thats not sucking up, thats just being decent. Everyone’s entitled to their opinion.

Matt has messed up. But he’s human, and this is a collaborative effort. You can’t put the blame for everything that goes wrong on one person. Or you can, but in the end you’re only going to alienate yourself from people who have the same goal.

That’s the whole point people, we all built the code and all the plugins

Did “WE”?

You know Matt wrote bbPress right?

You know Matt’s emplyees then fixes bbpress (albeit in an adhoc manner) until bbpress 0.8.3, right?

You know Matt then paid for a ‘full time’ developer for bbPress (Sam Bauers) for a year, right?

Matt is directly/indirectly responsible for more code than anyone else on this project.

Yes, he’s causing more issues than he’s solving right now, and yeah it’s annoying; but insulting his person by saying he doesn’t have Brains or Heart is just childish. And bluntly, unhelpful.

Notice how this site’s Alexa rate is a steady 12k… the entire world is waiting on this mates!

Lets be honest, the entire world isn’t waiting for this. I’ve spent a large chunk of time in Africa volunteering, building schools and basic irrigation. “The World” doesn’t care. We care, but its’ just forum software. Lets look at this in perspective.

Look, if you want Matt/AutoMattic/Developers/bbPress-community/Santa to come together or move forward in a particular direction thats cool. But making grandeous statements like this with no hard facts or suggestions doesn’t help at all. Half of what you said in your second post is so wrong it’s unreal. Honestly, if you want change and you want to help, cool. But don’t just spout facts and conclusions that you’ve made up.

we are on the same team yo!

I… I’m not sure what to say to that.

Can I change teams? Or can we vote people off?

[wtfmatt]

Why the heck does everyone continue to think this is up to matt and keep sucking up to him? That’s the whole point people, we all built the code and all the plugins, what in god’s name does matt have to do with this anymore besides what… owning the domain name?

Yes matt is a nice smart guy, but he doesn’t have a HEART for bbpress. He has the brain, but not the heart, is my point. And right now he’s not even using his brain for bbpress so what’s the point of your compliments to him, a rattled nervous praise to *hope* he doesn’t delete bbpress.org???

Nobody is asking for his time, or efforts! We are just asking that he LET GO of the reigns that he obviously has no interest in holding himself. And by the way, you shouldn’t accuse me of insulting matt, when he is the one that INSULTS US regularly… we are on the same team yo! We can build and take care of this project without him if he would just let people that have a heart for the bbpress project access the server and define goals and deadlines for the project.

Letting bbpress go the route of a WP plugin is just matt’s round about way of saying “f*ck off” I’m gonna kill this community and sweep it under the rug into the “not so regularly updated” plugin world.

And as _ck_ said, if it becomes a plugin, then what the heck happens to the bbpress plugins? You can’t install plugins of plugins!

I don’t know _ck_ well but I know she practically built half the code on this site by herself. That shows HEART. And I know there are others too with just as much heart, like Gautam, etc. I’m not here to play politics, please don’t try and interpret my words! Kevin man you are exactly what I’m talking about, you are smart and have HEART, but you won’t stop playing this nerdy suckup game as if one day matt is going to take you out to dinner. HE WONT. So please stop sucking up and let’s get this stuff done brother!

If you ask me, I think we should bug matt until he gives in. Emails, blog comments, whatever. He will get the point.

Or do you have another 2 years to waste?… cuz I don’t. Notice how this site’s Alexa rate is a steady 12k… the entire world is waiting on this mates! Don’t THROW IT AWAY!

p.s. I’m not hiding behind a fake identity. I’m not a “well known” member of bbpress so don’t fret y’all…

[kevinjohngallagher]

You’ve got define in twice:

instead of define('x','y') you’ll have definedefine('x',y')

I’d start again with a clean bb-congif.php and input the details as required.

[Gautam Gupta]

Well, about the code prob, here’s the patch – http://backpress.automattic.com/attachment/ticket/25/functions.kses.php.diff