[_ck_]

As fascinating as it is, unfortunately the setup that automattic uses can’t be compared in any way to a single stand alone server (or VPS) running it’s own mysql processes since you can use a radical amount of caching ram on the dedicated db servers.

However bbPress could benefit someday from a port of wp-super-cache (or even just wp-cache2) to send non-logged in/non-members cached pages. There’s a big difference between a forum with 1000 active logged-in users where pages have to be customised via the core and plugins vs. 1000 guests/bots who all see the same pages.

It bothers me that my fully loaded demo at bbshowcase.org has now beached the 100ms mark for front-page generation (bare bbPress is like 40ms) but I can’t think of any easy ways to speed that up further without removing features. Maybe when PHP 5.3 comes out which seems to promise a 10-15% code speedup.

[Sam Bauers]

You need to create the Secret Key in your WordPress config.

Read the WordPress Codex for more info.

https://codex.wordpress.org/Editing_wp-config.php#Secret_key_for_salting_password

[Sam Bauers]

I can only give you a vague idea of loads we experience in our environments. They aren’t exactly standard setups.

On WordPress.com the forums are served by the same infrastructure as the blogs. The forums don’t really make a dent in the load on that setup (hundreds of servers). Average of all queries is about 45 queries per second, over 90% of this is handled by MySQL query cache.

WordPress.org and bbPress.org are run from the same cluster which has three active load-balanced web servers and two database servers (one for writing and one for reading). The majority of the database load on this cluster is reads initiated by the forums and to a lesser extent reads initiated by the WordPress Codex (MediaWiki). Average load is about 700 reads per second, about 80% of those reads are cache hits.

Most of our servers have 2GB of RAM and 4 processor cores. Some DB servers might have more RAM. But there is nothing particularly special about the hardware otherwise. Pretty much the same as you would rent from a dedicated server provider.

[_ck_]

Your bbpress htaccess in /forum/ looks fine EXCEPT for what I hope is just a manual typo

<ifmodule mod_rewrite.c>

case matters in htaccess if I recall correctly

It should be

<IfModule mod_rewrite.c>

note the IfModule

(eta: the apache manual does say “Directives in the configuration files are case-insensitive” but give it a shot anyway – bbPress doesn’t generate it like that so I am not sure why it’s lower case in your setup?)

If changing that does nothing, the htaccess in the webroot that runs wordpress is also bit messy and my bet would be it’s got rules conflicting with bbpress’s

Is your site active or can you temporarily rename/delete the htaccess in the webroot and see if suddenly the bbpress slugs start working correctly? MAKE SURE YOU BACKUP THE FILE FIRST.

ps. next time use something like pastebin.com for that long of a copy/paste and just post the link

[trcyshw]

_ck_ – you make it sound so easy!

How would I go about making just one of my forums admin-post-only and member-read-and-reply-only? I’m comfortable enough with editing the templates, I just don’t know what part I’d need to change.

Hope you can help me with this!

Thanks!

[charleyramm]

Yes, I have this problem too. Where does post_author_link(); come from?

[serimu]

thanks for your reply, I am sending my httpd.conf, and htaccess files for wordpress and bbpress. Im also using gallery2 which is located at /somegalleryfolder. I use a plugin to integrate it with wordpress. But it has no problem, before or after I moved to the new vps. Bbpress is located at /forum folder. And its htaccess is contains only the code generated by bb-admin/rewrite-rules.php

I found my httpd.conf file, I dont know whether there is a security issue to put it here or not. But I hope it give you some idea about what could be problem:

#

# This is the main Apache HTTP server configuration file. It contains the

# configuration directives that give the server its instructions.

# See <URL:http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2> for detailed information.

# In particular, see

# <URL:http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/directives.html>

# for a discussion of each configuration directive.

#

# Do NOT simply read the instructions in here without understanding

# what they do. They're here only as hints or reminders. If you are unsure

# consult the online docs. You have been warned.

ServerRoot “/etc/httpd”

Listen 80

#LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/libphp4.so

LoadModule php5_module /usr/lib/apache/libphp5.so

#LoadModule suphp_module /usr/lib/apache/mod_suphp.so

LoadModule php5_module /usr/lib/apache/libphp5.so

User apache

Group apache

ServerAdmin admin@localhost

DocumentRoot “/var/www/html”

<Directory /home/*>

AllowOverride All

Options +MultiViews -Indexes +FollowSymlinks +IncludesNoExec +Includes

<Limit GET POST OPTIONS PROPFIND>

Order allow,deny

Allow from all

</Limit>

<LimitExcept GET POST OPTIONS PROPFIND>

Order deny,allow

Deny from all

</LimitExcept>

</Directory>

<Directory />

Options All

AllowOverride All

</Directory>

<Directory “/var/www/html”>

Options +Indexes +FollowSymLinks

AllowOverride None

Order allow,deny

Allow from all

<IfModule mod_suphp.c>

suPHP_Engine On

suPHP_UserGroup webapps webapps

</IfModule>

</Directory>

<IfModule dir_module>

DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.shtml index.php index.php5 index.php4 index.php3 index.phtml index.cgi

</IfModule>

<FilesMatch “^.ht”>

Order allow,deny

Deny from all

Satisfy All

</FilesMatch>

ErrorLog /var/log/httpd/error_log

LogLevel warn

<IfModule log_config_module>

#replace %b with %O for more accurate logging

<IfModule mod_logio.c>

LogFormat “%h %l %u %t “%r” %>s %O “%{Referer}i” “%{User-Agent}i”” combined

LogFormat “%h %l %u %t “%r” %>s %O” common

LogFormat “%O” bytes

LogFormat “%h %l %u %t “%r” %>s %b “%{Referer}i” “%{User-Agent}i” %I %O” combinedio

</IfModule>

CustomLog /var/log/httpd/access_log common

</IfModule>

<IfModule alias_module>

# Include some DirectAdmin alias

Include conf/extra/httpd-alias.conf

</IfModule>

<Directory “/var/www/cgi-bin”>

AllowOverride None

Options None

Order allow,deny

Allow from all

</Directory>

DefaultType text/plain

<IfModule mime_module>

TypesConfig conf/mime.types

AddType application/x-gzip .tgz

AddEncoding x-compress .Z

AddEncoding x-gzip .gz .tgz

AddType application/x-compress .Z

AddType application/x-gzip .gz .tgz

AddHandler cgi-script .cgi

AddHandler type-map var

AddType text/html .shtml

AddOutputFilter INCLUDES .shtml

AddType video/x-ms-asf .avi

AddType video/mpeg .mpg

AddType video/mpeg .mpeg

AddType video/quicktime .mov

AddType video/x-ms-wmv .wmv

</IfModule>

#EnableMMAP off

#EnableSendfile off

#######################################################################################

# Do not change anything in included files, because they are rewritten by DirectAdmin #

#######################################################################################

# This is needed for PHP

Include conf/extra/httpd-php-handlers.conf

# Server-pool management (MPM specific)

Include conf/extra/httpd-mpm.conf

# Multi-language error messages

Include conf/extra/httpd-multilang-errordoc.conf

# Fancy directory listings

Include conf/extra/httpd-autoindex.conf

# Language settings

Include conf/extra/httpd-languages.conf

# User home directories

#Include conf/extra/httpd-userdir.conf

# Real-time info on requests and configuration

Include conf/extra/httpd-info.conf

# Virtual hosts

Include conf/extra/httpd-vhosts.conf

# Local access to the Apache HTTP Server Manual

#Include conf/extra/httpd-manual.conf

# Distributed authoring and versioning (WebDAV)

Include conf/extra/httpd-dav.conf

# Various default settings

Include conf/extra/httpd-default.conf

# Secure (SSL/TLS) connections

Include conf/extra/httpd-ssl.conf

# Deflate module settings

Include conf/extra/httpd-deflate.conf

# All the DirectAdmin vhosts

Include conf/extra/directadmin-vhosts.conf

# All suPHP directives

Include conf/extra/httpd-suphp.conf

# All the other includes needed by the custombuild script

Include conf/extra/httpd-includes.conf

#######################################################################################

# End of included files that are rewritten by DirectAdmin #

#######################################################################################

<IfModule ssl_module>

SSLRandomSeed startup builtin

SSLRandomSeed connect builtin

</IfModule>

and this is my wordpress .htaccess file, it is in root folder for the domain

php_value upload_max_filesize "50M"

# BEGIN WordPress

<IfModule mod_rewrite.c>

RewriteEngine On

RewriteBase /

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d

RewriteRule . /index.php [L]

</IfModule>

# END WordPress

# BEGIN Url Rewrite section

# (Automatically generated. Do not edit this section)

<IfModule mod_rewrite.c>

RewriteEngine On

RewriteBase /

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -f [OR]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -d [OR]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} gallery_remote2.php

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !/wp-gallery2.php$

RewriteRule . – [L]

RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} view=core.DownloadItem

RewriteCond %{HTTP:Referer} !^[a-zA-Z0-9+.-]+/www.domain.com/ [NC]

RewriteCond %{HTTP:Referer} !^$

RewriteRule . /wp-gallery2.php [F,L]

RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} g2_view=core.DownloadItem

RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} g2_itemId=([0-9]+)

RewriteCond %{HTTP:Referer} !^[a-zA-Z0-9+.-]+/www.domain.com/ [NC]

RewriteCond %{HTTP:Referer} !^$

RewriteRule . /galery/main.php?g2_view=rewrite.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=%1 [L]

RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} /sitemap(?.| .)

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !/wp-gallery2.php$

RewriteRule . /wp-gallery2.php?g2_view=sitemap.Sitemap [QSA,L]

RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} /tags(?.| .)

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !/wp-gallery2.php$

RewriteRule . /wp-gallery2.php?g2_view=tags.TagCloud [QSA,L]

RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} /admin/(?.| .)

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !/wp-gallery2.php$

RewriteRule . /wp-gallery2.php?g2_view=core.SiteAdmin [QSA,L]

RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} /comments/add/([0-9]+).html(?.| .)

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !/wp-gallery2.php$

RewriteRule . /wp-gallery2.php?g2_view=comment.AddComment&g2_itemId=%1 [QSA,L]

RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} /comments/([0-9]+).html(?.| .)

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !/wp-gallery2.php$

RewriteRule . /wp-gallery2.php?g2_view=comment.ShowAllComments&g2_itemId=%1 [QSA,L]

RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} /([^?]+)/slideshow.html(?.| .)

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !/wp-gallery2.php$

RewriteRule . /wp-gallery2.php?g2_view=slideshow.Slideshow&g2_path=%1 [QSA,L]

RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} /photo/([^?]+)(?.| .)

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !/wp-gallery2.php$

RewriteRule . /wp-gallery2.php?g2_path=%1 [QSA,L]

RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} /([^?/]+)(?.| .)

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !/wp-gallery2.php$

RewriteRule . /wp-gallery2.php?g2_view=tags.VirtualAlbum&g2_tagName=%1 [QSA,L]

RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} /([^?]+)(?.| .)

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !/wp-gallery2.php$

RewriteRule . /wp-gallery2.php?g2_controller=permalinks.Redirect&g2_filename=%1 [QSA,L]

</IfModule>

# END Url Rewrite section

#

RewriteEngine on

RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^domain.com$ [NC]

RewriteRule .* http://www.domain.com/ [L,R=301]

RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} ?(ref=.*)? HTTP [NC]

RewriteRule .? http://www.domain.com%{REQUEST_URI}? [R=301,L]

RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} ?(referer=.*)? HTTP [NC]

RewriteRule .? http://www.domain.com%{REQUEST_URI}? [R=301,L]

Redirect /x/ http://www.domain.com/y/

Redirect /a/ http://www.domain.com/b/

and this is bbpress .htaccess located on /forum folder, and my bbpress is also located on /forum. And I dont call wordpress from bbpress and I dont call bbpress from wordpress. I use integration method expressed in faq section of bbpress documents. And my setup was working before I moved to the new vps.

<ifmodule mod_rewrite.c>

RewriteEngine On

RewriteBase /forum/

RewriteRule ^forum/([0-9]+)/page/([0-9]+)$ /forum/forum.php?id=$1&page=$2 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^forum/([0-9]+)$ /forum/forum.php?id=$1 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^topic/([0-9]+)/page/([0-9]+)$ /forum/topic.php?id=$1&page=$2 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^topic/([0-9]+)$ /forum/topic.php?id=$1 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^tags/(.+)/page/([0-9]+)$ /forum/tags.php?tag=$1&page=$2 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^tags/(.+)/?$ /forum/tags.php?tag=$1 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^tags/?$ /forum/tags.php [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^profile/([0-9]+)/page/([0-9]+)$ /forum/profile.php?id=$1&page=$2 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^profile/([0-9]+)/([a-z]+)$ /forum/profile.php?id=$1&tab=$2 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^profile/([0-9]+)/([a-z]+)/page/([0-9]+)$ /forum/profile.php?id=$1&tab=$2&page=$3 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^profile/([0-9]+)$ /forum/profile.php?id=$1 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^view/([a-z-]+)/page/([0-9]+)$ /forum/view.php?view=$1&page=$2 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^view/([a-z-]+)$ /forum/view.php?view=$1 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^rss/$ /forum/rss.php [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^rss/forum/([0-9]+)$ /forum/rss.php?forum=$1 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^rss/topic/([0-9]+)$ /forum/rss.php?topic=$1 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^rss/tags/([a-z]+)$ /forum/rss.php?tag=$1 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^rss/profile/([0-9]+)$ /forum/rss.php?profile=$1 [L,QSA]

</ifmodule>

[timskii]

Broken JavaScript is a non-trivial, since it will trigger a very visible error message for some users… on essentially every topic page, when logged in. The error isn’t FireFox-specific.

Commenting out the contents of the “addLoadEvent( function() { // TopicMeta” block of code in topic-js.php appears to remove the error without creating new issues: The underlying AJAX behaviour is broken anyway. A proper fix would be appreciated.

Edit: Ok… playing with *this* forum, it seems there is already a fix: The equivalent code in https://bbpress.org/forums/bb-includes/js/topic-js.php?ver=433 appears to work just fine.

[_ck_]

Let’s put it this way – bbPress is running with slugs and rewrite rules on literally thousands of servers, so the problem is likely your setup, not necessarily bbPress.

mod_rewrite should be virtually 100% internal to apache and not really depend on the OS/filesystem underneath but there’s always a chance for something to be interfering.

If you are using the bb-admin/rewrite-rules.php in your htaccess and you have slugs turned on and it doesn’t work, then I would bet that you have another mod_rewrite rule somewhere that is conflicting, either in the same htaccess file or in a directory above it. Do NOT use multiviews. I cannot help you if you are using multiviews.

I need much more information, like your htaccess file, and any htaccess file in directories above your forum. Is bbpress running in /forums/ or in the webroot (ie. / )

Also are you running wordpress at the exact same time as bbpress? I don’t mean standalone integration, I mean loading within each other. Because I am not sure how that would be handled and I never recommend it.

[Covi]

I have troubles too with cookies, login inconsistent between WordPress and BBpress:

Login on WordPress -> Log out on BBpress and vice versa

PD: Until the latest version, with the hack for 0.83, this was working fine

Web example: http://www.laguardiadejaen.com/web/

[_ck_]

I think they mean the block words would not be visible to non-members that aren’t logged in. Not to allow anonymous posting.

A weird request but easily doable – you just take the word censoring plugin and add a if ( !bb_is_user_logged_in() ) { add_filter(blah blah blah)} to it’s add_filter.

[_ck_]

The bb->load_options = true brought the load of the cpu to 5 times that of the one with 30+ queries but I guess that comes from not having that many topics in the newly installed Db so I really don’t know what to make of this.

Turn on (or increase) your mysql caching. It’s fairly obvious you are running either without any or not enough of it if you can detect any load increase with load_options=true. The query to load all options would be exactly the same across all instances for all users and mysql would pick up on that immediately and keep it in the cache, always. At least that’s what happens on my installs. I don’t have a site with 50k views a day but I have a 0.8.2.1 version with 15k views a day and it runs very fast.

Also make sure you use a php opcode cache like eaccelerator, xcache, etc. Best thing you can do for bbPress or WordPress.

0.9 of bbPress is not some kind of radically different change since 0.8 – there are many bug fixes and a few features added but the db calls are almost identical (some plugins however can be sloppy about not caching queries so that can cause issues).

Try my bb-benchmark if you want to see what happening behind the scenes for each page generated.

[andersson]

ok ok, I believe you. 0.9.0.1 is good enough to give a try.

Just one more thing: I’m guessing you have something like 100,000 pageviews a day in this forums which would render about 3,000,000 queries (moderate estimate) if you run bbpress 0901 out of the box. Your servers are cool with this? RAM at OK level?

No need for exact figures but just a notion of what’s been your experience so far would be golden. 3,000,000 queries a day means around 35 queries per second. That’s some load.

Thanks again.

EDIT: The reason why I’m asking is that I’d really like to continue to use bbpress as my primary PHP-framework for all my sites that has logon/user needs as I’ve had a hard time to find a more suitable framework to my needs.

[Sam Bauers]

It’s a lot safer to use the API calls.

bb_get_user($user_id) will return an object filled with the users data and meta data.

[chrishajer]

If you have access to the database with phpMyAdmin, you can do something like this:

Create a new user in bbPress. Check your email for the password email. Save that password somewhere. Now, open phpMyAdmin and take the password hash from the new user, and paste it into the password hash field for the admin user. Now, log into bbPress with your admin username. Delete the new user if you like.

If you don’t have access to the database, then why not just reinstall?

I think you used to be able to put a line in your config.php like this: $bb->new_keymaster = true; Then run bb-admin/install.php again.

Read more:

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/cant-login-1#post-795

[_ck_]

It was really bothering me how a page full of links was wasting so many bytes on full absolute URI’s with the domain name, etc. when all it needed was a tidy relative URL. The front page alone is 4k bigger just because of all the full URIs on the tag cloud and views, etc.

ie. http://www.bbpress.org/forums/forum/plugins

vs. /forums/forum/plugins

(multiply that by a few hundred)

So it dawned on me just now that it’s fairly easy using filters to make all the urls relative. Just for safety, we don’t kick in the relative URLs until bbPress has gotten past the header section of the template. This makes sure that redirects, stylesheets, and javascript is handled properly.

function bb_relative_uri($r) {return "/forums/"; }	// change forums to your path

function bb_relative_domain($r) {return ""; }

function bb_relative() {

add_filter( 'bb_get_option_domain','bb_relative_domain',255);

add_filter( 'bb_get_option_uri','bb_relative_uri',255);

} add_action('bb_head', 'bb_relative',255);

.

In some cases, relative URLs actually makes Internet Explorer cache better so this may be helpful for subtle speedups too.

I haven’t discovered anything broken by this yet but be sure to let me know if you run into anything.

[Aeterno]

I can’t progress past step 1 of the installer… I keep getting this bloody error….

Fatal error: Cannot redeclare bb_user_sanitize() (previously declared in /home/xxxxxx/public_html/forum/bb-includes/formatting-functions.php:125) in /home/xxxxxx/public_html/forum/bb-includes/deprecated.php on line 285

[Mattias Tengblad]

Thanks!

Swedish translation in the making now

[Covi]

Why this change in the plugins system?? oO

Thx chrishajer

[Sam Bauers]

There is a line in the wp-config.php file that says:

require_once(ABSPATH.'wp-settings.php');

.

If you add any code after that line it won’t be applied.

[Sam Bauers]

You should really triple check for blank lines or spaces or null characters at the start of your bb-config.php file. This part of the error: output started at /var/www/virtual/mywebsite/forums/bb-config.php:1 points to that being the problem.

You should go into the start of the file and delete <?php completely and press the delete key a few times at the start of the file. Then add <php? back to the start of the file.

You didn’t upload your files using Dreamweaver did you? That program has an “option” to add a utf8 BOM character to the start of files, which causes similar behaviour.

[Sam Bauers]

A bunch of options are now pulled from the database.

You will see a significant reduction in queries if you add this line to your bb-config.php file…

$bb->load_options = true;

[Sam Bauers]

You have just described one of the Google Summer of Code ideas that might be going ahead.

https://codex.wordpress.org/GSoC2008#Web_Forums_Export.2FImport_Standard_and_Tools

This is something I will be pursuing to create better interoperability between different forum platforms.

[Sam Bauers]

We will potentially be adding import/export features during the Google Summer of Code program.

[Sam Bauers]

Use:

<?php post_author(); ?>