[chrishajer]

Sam, I think this should be made sticky. For a while, the conventional wisdom was to tell people to grab the latest trunk to fix the underscore plugin issue and the mysqli issue, but that’s no longer true. There is no good reason for a non-developer to use trunk at this point, I don’t think. Is the best advice for people who just want to install a working version of bbPress to use r980, as you posted about a month ago, or has that advice changed?

Thanks,

Chris

[chrishajer]

I don’t think the trunk release is reliable for installations at this point.

Changeset 1076 (aka “this will break everything”)

You should probably install an .8.3.1 release or possibly a revision after .8.3.1 but not the latest trunk. There was a post from sambauers regarding which revision would be best to check out, I think it was revision r980.

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/broken-profiles-for-users-with-spaces-in-the-names?replies=5#post-12769

[_ck_]

Ugh, so an existing forum with 1000 users will have to instruct every single one to clear their cookies – meaning at least 50% won’t understand and try to contact the forum operator personally.

I think there is a better way – perhaps an upgrade plugin that can detect the out of date hash and instruct the client to delete the old cookie and redirect back to the login.

Actually, wouldn’t bbpress replace the hash data in the cookie upon login? None of this sounds right – I created a new user under 1075 and was still unable to login.

I’ve gotten build 1006 to work properly so I guess I will try another investigation into the upgrade from there tonight. I wonder if this has to do with the hard coded hash I have set in bb-config.php

How does this affect a setup with a shared login from wordpress where you have to match the same hash it has? I had the integration working just right, hope there was a good reason to fiddle with it.

[_ck_]

Installed on bbShowcase as a demo:

http://bbshowcase.org/forums/?bbtheme=MistyMorning-bbpress

However you need to test+fix it in Firefox.

While it looks okay in IE, there’s a float/clear problem in Firefox and Opera.

There’s also a overflow/width issue in Safari that I can’t quickly identify.

[Sam Bauers]

You know that both cookie and password hashing have changed? You may need to clear your old cookies manually to make way for the new ones. Send a mail to the dev list or hit us on IRC in the #bbpress channel and well work out what’s going on.

We’re acutely aware of how spammers attempt to “fool” Akismet. There are steps being taken now to help improve the processes involved in combatting this. Remember that we are users of Akismet too, so have an interest in keeping it ahead of the game.

The nature of Akismet’s purpose means that back-end code needs to remain closed. If spammers knew how it worked, it would likely make it possible for them to game the system. Of course it is opt-in, so if you don’t like it then you don’t have to use it. Controlling the data that is passed to Akismet is controllable from the client end using plugins that can limit it’s behaviour. These already exist for WordPress, bbPress ones could be easily developed too. If there are hooks missing to make that possible then we’ll add them.

[_ck_]

I’ll probably be forced to join the dev list to try to solve this but I just tried moving from 951 to 1075 and I cannot get the logins to “stick” (ie. logs in and then acts as if it is not logged in)

Seems like the old cookie path issue but I’ve looked the cookies and the code and everything seems healthy. Even created a new user with 1075 and that user cannot login either.

eta: 1006 does not exhibit the login issue

ps. don’t kid yourself with Akismet stopping spam. Spammers just escalate their deviousness on what they can get through it. My wordpress.com blog gets spam almost daily now, bleeding right through Akismet. And Akismet hasn’t been given peer-review for privacy/security issues such as passing every single message entered on every single blog and bbpress through automattic – even for private posts and private sub-forums. Won’t make for good headlines when people start to think about it.

[_ck_]

Thanks for taking the time to write that up.

I guess my biggest question for now is if build 1075 should be treated as the most relatively stable build for alpha users.

I’ll say this to the day I abandon bbpress – adding trackbacks/pingbacks to it is the biggest waste of limited time and resources and will make the program the spammers target of choice while leaving it with the worst reputation.

ps. if Matt held some kind of contest I am sure a better name could be come up with than “TalkPress”. The problem is he wants to stick to that “press” suffix which implies a one-way communication for a something that is specifically for two-way interaction.

[Sam Bauers]

Things may be a bit confusing at the moment with two new and different names flying around. I’ll do my best to clarify things and we can use this topic for everyone to ask questions on the subject and provide input.

For those who are interested, the first thing to do is read this post (and the articles it links to) in the blog:

The future for bbPress

That post is pretty vague about things. So let me be more specific here. First, I’d like to make it clear that bbPress is not being replaced or abandoned or drastically changing direction. As for the two new names that have been mentioned, I’ll cover them below.

BackPress:

bbPress has a lot of shared code with WordPress. BackPress is the name of a new project which is attempting to normalise this shared code into a set of generic files that will simply plug in to both projects (and potentially others). This allows us to leverage the testing and improvements made to this shared code without the overheads of manually merging changes. This way we can spend more time on bbPress’ unique code and extending new functionality.

TalkPress:

It has been public for a while that Automattic intends to create a hosted forums service based on the bbPress project code. The intention is to make this work much like the existing WordPress.com hosted service for blogs. Matt Mullenweg let it slip that the working name for the project (and not necessarily the service) is TalkPress. We probably won’t talk much about it here, but I can say that the majority of the code written to create this new project will be released as open source. Regardless of the name of that service when it launches, the name of this project, “bbPress”, will not change.

As for the upcoming work for bbPress, I’m happy to elabrorate here:

bbPress code:

Along with the inclusion of BackPress into trunk, there are other things going on. We are in the process of implementing a new taxonomy structure for tags. Improving bbPress’ object cache to make it compatible with various WordPress object cache plugins. Replacing the fairly ordinary “favourites” system with a much more flexible and useful topic aggregation tool, and later on we will be incorporating a set of functionality based around the XML-RPC tools available in WordPress such as pingbacks and trackbacks.

bbPress.org website

The bbPress.org website is due for a clean up. Most importantly, the extend area will be upgraded to include a plugin repository similar in functionality to the one that exists on the WordPress.org website. There is a possibility that we will also launch a theme repository based on the same system. A little later on, we plan to re-design the whole site.

I hope this clears things up a little and I’m happy to answer any questions here. I can’t think of anything, but it’s possible that there may be some things that I can’t say about the hosted service project. Feel free to ask though.

[Tymothi]

I am getting this error

Warning: Cannot modify header information – headers already sent by (output started at /home/content/h/e/r/heroalliance/html/bbpress/config.php:64) in /home/content/h/e/r/heroalliance/html/bbpress/bb-includes/pluggable.php on line 164

I am using PHP5

[Sam Bauers]

We can continue this conversation over here:

TalkPress

Closing this topic.

[Sam Bauers]

Repost from the dev mailing list:

As of the last commit at this time (revision 1076), trunk is in an experimental and unreliable state. We are attempting to abstract some functions and classes for easier sharing of code between WordPress and bbPress. This shared code is called “BackPress”, and we’ll probably be mentioning it a few times here and there in Trac and other dev discussions.

[Andrew]

I’m hoping this is straightforward. I’ve integrated BBpress and WordPress at a theme level – ie reusing header and footer. What I would like to do is display different information (such as a link to a user profile) in the header only when a bbpress page is being displayed. Is there a conditional variable I can check with php that would allow me to do this? Which global variable? Thanks.

[d00d13]

“I guess I will go with one of these: https://codex.wordpress.org/Plugins/Forums”

Where’s the beef?

[d00d13]

I put require_once(‘/home/domain/public_html/gypsylablue/wp-blog-header.php’);

in bbpress’ config, but it isn’t displaying wordpress’ header in bbpress. Is there anything elso one should do?

[d00d13]

“I was able to modify the source coding for bbPress to display within a page of WordPress”

How did you do that??

[sydspinnin]

I installed bbPress into my WP directory such that its index.php lives here: http://stlrevolution.com/teamrev/forums/

The admin tool seems to work fine. I am able to create topics and whatnot, see users, and all that. BUT, when I click on a topic, I receive file not found message.

For example, I went to add a new test topic:

http://stlrevolution.com/teamrev/forums/?new=1

And when I clicked [Send Post], instead of seeing the post or some other page displayed, I received an error for this url:

http://stlrevolution.com/teamrev/forums/topic/3?replies=1#post-3

When I look in the forums folder, there is no “topic” folder, so I’m wondering what exactly I messed up during installation. Please advise. Thank you.

[chgogrrl99]

Hey All,

I’ve been away for a while…I got an assignment so I had to put my site on hold. But, I’m back.

I’m only writing today because I really wanted to thank a few people for their help. I would never have gotten as far as I have with my forums if not for them.

So…fel64, livibetter and, especially Chrishajer, thank you all for your help. Since starting this whole WP and bbPress venture, I’ve constantly been surprised and impressed with just how generous people in this community are with their time and their knowledge.

Thanks again…I’m sure I’ll be hitting you up again soon.

[_ck_]

Can we get an explanation on what this is about

and where exactly bbPress is being taken? (ie. backPress)

[chrishajer]

Since it sounds like you’re heavily modifying your install, I suppose you don’t have a problem modifying core files. It makes upgrading to a new version of bbPress more difficult, but you’ve already started down that road.

How about just changing bb-includes/template-functions.php and modifying what the bb_feed_head function returns (i.e. make it return no rss links at all.) I don’t know if that takes care of everything or not. Maybe it just kills autodiscovery of feeds. But I think in that file is where you would make the changes you want to disable RSS altogether.

There are rss links in the template files as well, so you should remove those too, so they don’t appear. I think a combination of removing the links from the template and the rss links from the <head> would take care of it.

Also, I imagine there is a way with a plugin to remove the rss feed links, to avoid modifying core files. I just don’t know how to do that (add a plugin to remove links in the <head>.)

[Andrew]

I am looking for a generalized way to stop all feeds from BBPress.

Is there a core file I can delete? I deleted register.php to prevent any user registrations (and removed any links to it). Where is the ‘beating heart’ of the RSS so I can rip that out too?

Note – I was using the private categories plugin which did this nicely but I have migrated to Amember and am coding the security right into the theme.

[chrishajer]

Not possible or at least not easy to do (I don’t think I’ve seen any one do it.) See here:

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/unable-to-log-in-in-iframes?replies=9#post-11051

[chrishajer]

What version bbPress did you install? I don’t see a line 294 in my bb-settings.php.

But, the solution is going to be the same as before. I can’t help you with the actual change since I can’t actually find the line you’re talking about.

[fel64]

And woop, backpress.

https://trac.bbpress.org/changeset/1076

backPress: BOOM! this will break *everything*

Things be happnin’.

[dag-henning]

I managed to install bbpress, and its all working well, getting the data from the wpbase. but what i wis to do is to integrate bbpress as a part of my wp site, it should load in the main content frame. is this possible?

ex: http://www.indexhibit.org/forum/

here the skeleton of the cms remains after going to the forum.

help is much appreciated

[healthstatus]

using bbpress .8.3 I can view my main page (http://www.healthstatus.com/health_blog/forums), I can view a latest discussion by clicking on it, but when I click on a forum, I get the message:

Fatal error: Call to undefined function bb_get_header() in /…../forums/forum.php on line 1

Second, when I try and add a forum (from the admin screen) it just flashes at me but doesn’t add the new forum.