[Beer]

Your site isn’t loading. Can you provide a script that will convert an IPB forum to bbPress?

[zapata]

just upgraded to wp2.5 and now trying to upgrade bbpress, but stuck at step 2 cause I don’t have a wp cookie secret key and wp database secret.

how can i move forward?

also my bbpress was private – it could only be accessed, read and written by my wp authors only. will this be lost? how can i get the same feature back?

[_ck_]

As fascinating as it is, unfortunately the setup that automattic uses can’t be compared in any way to a single stand alone server (or VPS) running it’s own mysql processes since you can use a radical amount of caching ram on the dedicated db servers.

However bbPress could benefit someday from a port of wp-super-cache (or even just wp-cache2) to send non-logged in/non-members cached pages. There’s a big difference between a forum with 1000 active logged-in users where pages have to be customised via the core and plugins vs. 1000 guests/bots who all see the same pages.

It bothers me that my fully loaded demo at bbshowcase.org has now beached the 100ms mark for front-page generation (bare bbPress is like 40ms) but I can’t think of any easy ways to speed that up further without removing features. Maybe when PHP 5.3 comes out which seems to promise a 10-15% code speedup.

[Sam Bauers]

Private messaging will not be in core in the foreseeable future.

The idea is to make the import/export process hookable, so that if someone authors an IM plugin for bbPress, they can query for IM import data and place it where their plugin wants it. They can also hook in to the export process as well.

[Sam Bauers]

bbPress uses the user login for displaying identity.

I want to change this, but it’s actually more work than you’d think. Plus we need to consider that display names aren’t unique in the user table (that’s a legacy from WordPress), which creates the possibility of user spoofing. Using “Display Name (userlogin)” is a possibility where display names aren’t unique but that is a pretty onerous query that we would have to cache somehow (and expire those caches in a dependant way).

Please make a Trac ticket if one isn’t there… https://trac.bbpress.org/

[Sam Bauers]

Please ticket this in Trac…

https://trac.bbpress.org/

[Sam Bauers]

@ retrospec

I can’t replicate that error on FireFox2 on Mac – perhaps try re-uploading the stylesheet.

@txmom

Your WordPress rewrite rules (in .htaccess) are getting in the way of accessing bbPress by the sounds of things. Also, the installer is at bb-admin/install.php, not where you said. You should probably delete bbPress and start again.

[Sam Bauers]

I can only give you a vague idea of loads we experience in our environments. They aren’t exactly standard setups.

On WordPress.com the forums are served by the same infrastructure as the blogs. The forums don’t really make a dent in the load on that setup (hundreds of servers). Average of all queries is about 45 queries per second, over 90% of this is handled by MySQL query cache.

WordPress.org and bbPress.org are run from the same cluster which has three active load-balanced web servers and two database servers (one for writing and one for reading). The majority of the database load on this cluster is reads initiated by the forums and to a lesser extent reads initiated by the WordPress Codex (MediaWiki). Average load is about 700 reads per second, about 80% of those reads are cache hits.

Most of our servers have 2GB of RAM and 4 processor cores. Some DB servers might have more RAM. But there is nothing particularly special about the hardware otherwise. Pretty much the same as you would rent from a dedicated server provider.

[_ck_]

Your bbpress htaccess in /forum/ looks fine EXCEPT for what I hope is just a manual typo

<ifmodule mod_rewrite.c>

case matters in htaccess if I recall correctly

It should be

<IfModule mod_rewrite.c>

note the IfModule

(eta: the apache manual does say “Directives in the configuration files are case-insensitive” but give it a shot anyway – bbPress doesn’t generate it like that so I am not sure why it’s lower case in your setup?)

If changing that does nothing, the htaccess in the webroot that runs wordpress is also bit messy and my bet would be it’s got rules conflicting with bbpress’s

Is your site active or can you temporarily rename/delete the htaccess in the webroot and see if suddenly the bbpress slugs start working correctly? MAKE SURE YOU BACKUP THE FILE FIRST.

ps. next time use something like pastebin.com for that long of a copy/paste and just post the link

[bryan868]

Good news! Hopefully bbPress will eventually have private messaging in the core so the importers can move over PM data as well!

[serimu]

thanks for your reply, I am sending my httpd.conf, and htaccess files for wordpress and bbpress. Im also using gallery2 which is located at /somegalleryfolder. I use a plugin to integrate it with wordpress. But it has no problem, before or after I moved to the new vps. Bbpress is located at /forum folder. And its htaccess is contains only the code generated by bb-admin/rewrite-rules.php

I found my httpd.conf file, I dont know whether there is a security issue to put it here or not. But I hope it give you some idea about what could be problem:

#

# This is the main Apache HTTP server configuration file. It contains the

# configuration directives that give the server its instructions.

# See <URL:http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2> for detailed information.

# In particular, see

# <URL:http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/directives.html>

# for a discussion of each configuration directive.

#

# Do NOT simply read the instructions in here without understanding

# what they do. They're here only as hints or reminders. If you are unsure

# consult the online docs. You have been warned.

ServerRoot “/etc/httpd”

Listen 80

#LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/libphp4.so

LoadModule php5_module /usr/lib/apache/libphp5.so

#LoadModule suphp_module /usr/lib/apache/mod_suphp.so

LoadModule php5_module /usr/lib/apache/libphp5.so

User apache

Group apache

ServerAdmin admin@localhost

DocumentRoot “/var/www/html”

<Directory /home/*>

AllowOverride All

Options +MultiViews -Indexes +FollowSymlinks +IncludesNoExec +Includes

<Limit GET POST OPTIONS PROPFIND>

Order allow,deny

Allow from all

</Limit>

<LimitExcept GET POST OPTIONS PROPFIND>

Order deny,allow

Deny from all

</LimitExcept>

</Directory>

<Directory />

Options All

AllowOverride All

</Directory>

<Directory “/var/www/html”>

Options +Indexes +FollowSymLinks

AllowOverride None

Order allow,deny

Allow from all

<IfModule mod_suphp.c>

suPHP_Engine On

suPHP_UserGroup webapps webapps

</IfModule>

</Directory>

<IfModule dir_module>

DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.shtml index.php index.php5 index.php4 index.php3 index.phtml index.cgi

</IfModule>

<FilesMatch “^.ht”>

Order allow,deny

Deny from all

Satisfy All

</FilesMatch>

ErrorLog /var/log/httpd/error_log

LogLevel warn

<IfModule log_config_module>

#replace %b with %O for more accurate logging

<IfModule mod_logio.c>

LogFormat “%h %l %u %t “%r” %>s %O “%{Referer}i” “%{User-Agent}i”” combined

LogFormat “%h %l %u %t “%r” %>s %O” common

LogFormat “%O” bytes

LogFormat “%h %l %u %t “%r” %>s %b “%{Referer}i” “%{User-Agent}i” %I %O” combinedio

</IfModule>

CustomLog /var/log/httpd/access_log common

</IfModule>

<IfModule alias_module>

# Include some DirectAdmin alias

Include conf/extra/httpd-alias.conf

</IfModule>

<Directory “/var/www/cgi-bin”>

AllowOverride None

Options None

Order allow,deny

Allow from all

</Directory>

DefaultType text/plain

<IfModule mime_module>

TypesConfig conf/mime.types

AddType application/x-gzip .tgz

AddEncoding x-compress .Z

AddEncoding x-gzip .gz .tgz

AddType application/x-compress .Z

AddType application/x-gzip .gz .tgz

AddHandler cgi-script .cgi

AddHandler type-map var

AddType text/html .shtml

AddOutputFilter INCLUDES .shtml

AddType video/x-ms-asf .avi

AddType video/mpeg .mpg

AddType video/mpeg .mpeg

AddType video/quicktime .mov

AddType video/x-ms-wmv .wmv

</IfModule>

#EnableMMAP off

#EnableSendfile off

#######################################################################################

# Do not change anything in included files, because they are rewritten by DirectAdmin #

#######################################################################################

# This is needed for PHP

Include conf/extra/httpd-php-handlers.conf

# Server-pool management (MPM specific)

Include conf/extra/httpd-mpm.conf

# Multi-language error messages

Include conf/extra/httpd-multilang-errordoc.conf

# Fancy directory listings

Include conf/extra/httpd-autoindex.conf

# Language settings

Include conf/extra/httpd-languages.conf

# User home directories

#Include conf/extra/httpd-userdir.conf

# Real-time info on requests and configuration

Include conf/extra/httpd-info.conf

# Virtual hosts

Include conf/extra/httpd-vhosts.conf

# Local access to the Apache HTTP Server Manual

#Include conf/extra/httpd-manual.conf

# Distributed authoring and versioning (WebDAV)

Include conf/extra/httpd-dav.conf

# Various default settings

Include conf/extra/httpd-default.conf

# Secure (SSL/TLS) connections

Include conf/extra/httpd-ssl.conf

# Deflate module settings

Include conf/extra/httpd-deflate.conf

# All the DirectAdmin vhosts

Include conf/extra/directadmin-vhosts.conf

# All suPHP directives

Include conf/extra/httpd-suphp.conf

# All the other includes needed by the custombuild script

Include conf/extra/httpd-includes.conf

#######################################################################################

# End of included files that are rewritten by DirectAdmin #

#######################################################################################

<IfModule ssl_module>

SSLRandomSeed startup builtin

SSLRandomSeed connect builtin

</IfModule>

and this is my wordpress .htaccess file, it is in root folder for the domain

php_value upload_max_filesize "50M"

# BEGIN WordPress

<IfModule mod_rewrite.c>

RewriteEngine On

RewriteBase /

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d

RewriteRule . /index.php [L]

</IfModule>

# END WordPress

# BEGIN Url Rewrite section

# (Automatically generated. Do not edit this section)

<IfModule mod_rewrite.c>

RewriteEngine On

RewriteBase /

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -f [OR]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -d [OR]

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} gallery_remote2.php

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !/wp-gallery2.php$

RewriteRule . – [L]

RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} view=core.DownloadItem

RewriteCond %{HTTP:Referer} !^[a-zA-Z0-9+.-]+/www.domain.com/ [NC]

RewriteCond %{HTTP:Referer} !^$

RewriteRule . /wp-gallery2.php [F,L]

RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} g2_view=core.DownloadItem

RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} g2_itemId=([0-9]+)

RewriteCond %{HTTP:Referer} !^[a-zA-Z0-9+.-]+/www.domain.com/ [NC]

RewriteCond %{HTTP:Referer} !^$

RewriteRule . /galery/main.php?g2_view=rewrite.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=%1 [L]

RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} /sitemap(?.| .)

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !/wp-gallery2.php$

RewriteRule . /wp-gallery2.php?g2_view=sitemap.Sitemap [QSA,L]

RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} /tags(?.| .)

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !/wp-gallery2.php$

RewriteRule . /wp-gallery2.php?g2_view=tags.TagCloud [QSA,L]

RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} /admin/(?.| .)

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !/wp-gallery2.php$

RewriteRule . /wp-gallery2.php?g2_view=core.SiteAdmin [QSA,L]

RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} /comments/add/([0-9]+).html(?.| .)

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !/wp-gallery2.php$

RewriteRule . /wp-gallery2.php?g2_view=comment.AddComment&g2_itemId=%1 [QSA,L]

RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} /comments/([0-9]+).html(?.| .)

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !/wp-gallery2.php$

RewriteRule . /wp-gallery2.php?g2_view=comment.ShowAllComments&g2_itemId=%1 [QSA,L]

RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} /([^?]+)/slideshow.html(?.| .)

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !/wp-gallery2.php$

RewriteRule . /wp-gallery2.php?g2_view=slideshow.Slideshow&g2_path=%1 [QSA,L]

RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} /photo/([^?]+)(?.| .)

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !/wp-gallery2.php$

RewriteRule . /wp-gallery2.php?g2_path=%1 [QSA,L]

RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} /([^?/]+)(?.| .)

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !/wp-gallery2.php$

RewriteRule . /wp-gallery2.php?g2_view=tags.VirtualAlbum&g2_tagName=%1 [QSA,L]

RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} /([^?]+)(?.| .)

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !/wp-gallery2.php$

RewriteRule . /wp-gallery2.php?g2_controller=permalinks.Redirect&g2_filename=%1 [QSA,L]

</IfModule>

# END Url Rewrite section

#

RewriteEngine on

RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^domain.com$ [NC]

RewriteRule .* http://www.domain.com/ [L,R=301]

RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} ?(ref=.*)? HTTP [NC]

RewriteRule .? http://www.domain.com%{REQUEST_URI}? [R=301,L]

RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} ?(referer=.*)? HTTP [NC]

RewriteRule .? http://www.domain.com%{REQUEST_URI}? [R=301,L]

Redirect /x/ http://www.domain.com/y/

Redirect /a/ http://www.domain.com/b/

and this is bbpress .htaccess located on /forum folder, and my bbpress is also located on /forum. And I dont call wordpress from bbpress and I dont call bbpress from wordpress. I use integration method expressed in faq section of bbpress documents. And my setup was working before I moved to the new vps.

<ifmodule mod_rewrite.c>

RewriteEngine On

RewriteBase /forum/

RewriteRule ^forum/([0-9]+)/page/([0-9]+)$ /forum/forum.php?id=$1&page=$2 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^forum/([0-9]+)$ /forum/forum.php?id=$1 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^topic/([0-9]+)/page/([0-9]+)$ /forum/topic.php?id=$1&page=$2 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^topic/([0-9]+)$ /forum/topic.php?id=$1 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^tags/(.+)/page/([0-9]+)$ /forum/tags.php?tag=$1&page=$2 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^tags/(.+)/?$ /forum/tags.php?tag=$1 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^tags/?$ /forum/tags.php [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^profile/([0-9]+)/page/([0-9]+)$ /forum/profile.php?id=$1&page=$2 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^profile/([0-9]+)/([a-z]+)$ /forum/profile.php?id=$1&tab=$2 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^profile/([0-9]+)/([a-z]+)/page/([0-9]+)$ /forum/profile.php?id=$1&tab=$2&page=$3 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^profile/([0-9]+)$ /forum/profile.php?id=$1 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^view/([a-z-]+)/page/([0-9]+)$ /forum/view.php?view=$1&page=$2 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^view/([a-z-]+)$ /forum/view.php?view=$1 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^rss/$ /forum/rss.php [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^rss/forum/([0-9]+)$ /forum/rss.php?forum=$1 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^rss/topic/([0-9]+)$ /forum/rss.php?topic=$1 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^rss/tags/([a-z]+)$ /forum/rss.php?tag=$1 [L,QSA]

RewriteRule ^rss/profile/([0-9]+)$ /forum/rss.php?profile=$1 [L,QSA]

</ifmodule>

[snoon]

I don’t have one either. And I am totally perplexed as to where you found documentation about creating one. My wp-config has no such animal and my bbpress install is blocked. I’m stopped until I get my mind around this one. HELP!

Scott

scott@scottnoon.com

[bradsucks]

Since I upgraded to 0.9.0.1 and WordPress 2.5 my username in bbPress (which is integrated with WordPress) shows up in bbPress as “admin” instead of “Brad”. Is there any easy way to fix this?

My guess is that bbPress is using user_login instead of user_nicename or display_name in the wp_users table. As user_login and user_nicename for my user record are both set to “Brad” but user_login is “admin”.

[timskii]

Broken JavaScript is a non-trivial, since it will trigger a very visible error message for some users… on essentially every topic page, when logged in. The error isn’t FireFox-specific.

Commenting out the contents of the “addLoadEvent( function() { // TopicMeta” block of code in topic-js.php appears to remove the error without creating new issues: The underlying AJAX behaviour is broken anyway. A proper fix would be appreciated.

Edit: Ok… playing with *this* forum, it seems there is already a fix: The equivalent code in https://bbpress.org/forums/bb-includes/js/topic-js.php?ver=433 appears to work just fine.

[txmom]

I have a new wordpress site which is the new 2.5. I’ve uploaded the new bbpress but when I go to install by visiting the url I get redirected to xxx/bb-admin/install.php/ which comes up as page not found (which ends up at the wordpress 2.5 home page).

I notice that install.php is now in the plug-in folder so tried

xxx/bb-plugins/bb-admin/install.php

and get:

Warning: main(../bb-load.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory

Fatal error: main(): Failed opening required ‘../bb-load.php’ (include_path=’.:/usr/local/PEAR’)

both on line 9

Suggestions, some little thing I’m doing wrong?

Thanks!

[Shagalaga]

a perfect example, how slow phpbb 3 is, compared to bbpress

[_ck_]

Let’s put it this way – bbPress is running with slugs and rewrite rules on literally thousands of servers, so the problem is likely your setup, not necessarily bbPress.

mod_rewrite should be virtually 100% internal to apache and not really depend on the OS/filesystem underneath but there’s always a chance for something to be interfering.

If you are using the bb-admin/rewrite-rules.php in your htaccess and you have slugs turned on and it doesn’t work, then I would bet that you have another mod_rewrite rule somewhere that is conflicting, either in the same htaccess file or in a directory above it. Do NOT use multiviews. I cannot help you if you are using multiviews.

I need much more information, like your htaccess file, and any htaccess file in directories above your forum. Is bbpress running in /forums/ or in the webroot (ie. / )

Also are you running wordpress at the exact same time as bbpress? I don’t mean standalone integration, I mean loading within each other. Because I am not sure how that would be handled and I never recommend it.

[retrospec]

hello, there seems to be a stylesheet error on the admin page. when you visit the admin forum section the edit/delete items are both offset from the actual forum line and each one cascades in diagnally making it almost impossible to use. This is using Firefox and the standard theme.

[serimu]

I had godaddy hosting when I was setting up this forum. And it did not worked for permalinks. I moved to another shared hosting, and it worked. Now my website gets more traffic and I moved to a vps. But although I can change every setting on my vps, I dont know what to do. And technical stuff also did not know anything about the problem.

I used mod_rewrite rules in my previous hosting, and I use it for now, but it does not work. Forum is opening, but links are not working.

On godaddy, the mod_rewrite was also working for wordpress, and it also works for my vps. I think bbpress has some problem with those rewrite rules. Do I have to move back to shared hosting, which I dont want to do so, after I saw how fast my website is on a vps.

[Covi]

I have troubles too with cookies, login inconsistent between WordPress and BBpress:

Login on WordPress -> Log out on BBpress and vice versa

PD: Until the latest version, with the hack for 0.83, this was working fine

Web example: http://www.laguardiadejaen.com/web/

[_ck_]

The bb->load_options = true brought the load of the cpu to 5 times that of the one with 30+ queries but I guess that comes from not having that many topics in the newly installed Db so I really don’t know what to make of this.

Turn on (or increase) your mysql caching. It’s fairly obvious you are running either without any or not enough of it if you can detect any load increase with load_options=true. The query to load all options would be exactly the same across all instances for all users and mysql would pick up on that immediately and keep it in the cache, always. At least that’s what happens on my installs. I don’t have a site with 50k views a day but I have a 0.8.2.1 version with 15k views a day and it runs very fast.

Also make sure you use a php opcode cache like eaccelerator, xcache, etc. Best thing you can do for bbPress or WordPress.

0.9 of bbPress is not some kind of radically different change since 0.8 – there are many bug fixes and a few features added but the db calls are almost identical (some plugins however can be sloppy about not caching queries so that can cause issues).

Try my bb-benchmark if you want to see what happening behind the scenes for each page generated.

[pulk99]

at http://bbpress.org/documentation/integration-with-wordpress/ it says:

bbPress will not have access to WordPress’ functions unless you manually tell bbPress to load WordPress first. In order to do that, you need to put require_once(‘path/to/wp-blog-header.php’); in bbPress’ bb-config.php (wp-blog-header is in the same directory as WordPress’ wp-config.php file).

but if I do this, I can’t enter the admin area any more, cause, the relative path to the wp-blog-header.php isn’t right anymore. I can’t use the full url because of: URL file-access is disabled in the server configuration.

[andersson]

ok ok, I believe you. 0.9.0.1 is good enough to give a try.

Just one more thing: I’m guessing you have something like 100,000 pageviews a day in this forums which would render about 3,000,000 queries (moderate estimate) if you run bbpress 0901 out of the box. Your servers are cool with this? RAM at OK level?

No need for exact figures but just a notion of what’s been your experience so far would be golden. 3,000,000 queries a day means around 35 queries per second. That’s some load.

Thanks again.

EDIT: The reason why I’m asking is that I’d really like to continue to use bbpress as my primary PHP-framework for all my sites that has logon/user needs as I’ve had a hard time to find a more suitable framework to my needs.

[affacat]

does this still work for latest versions (2.5, 9.0.1)?

[Sam Bauers]

It is probably less work to use bbPress than using other forum software if your intention is to re-skin to match your blog. You can actually “load” WordPress inside bbPress (check the documentation), but there is a definite performance penalty in doing that.

The best performance choice is to integrate your user tables and auth cookies. Then skin your forum to match your blog, but don’t “load” WordPress into bbPress unless you intend to use WordPress functions inside bbPress quite extensively.

You will probably find the exercise of skinning your bbPress install quite simple compared to other forum software. The templating system is similar to WordPress, so it will be a familiar environment if you have done that before.