[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

I keep thinking back on this, and I think you’re looking at it the wrong way. I’m not speaking to the HTML/Code side of it, but the concept side. The code side, yeah, some function I would consider default is missing (Unread, maybe Allow Images)

But what’s the difference between a Forum and a Blog?

A blog is a journal. Few people make new topics, many people reply. A forum is … a forum. Many people make new topics, many people reply.

If you feel the code of a Blog is better suited to how you want to run your forum, cool. You want to use the highly structured IPB or phpBB? Have at I picked bbPress not because of the WP integration (I could care less, really) but because it gave me more options than just Category -> Forum -> Topic -> Posts, and because it’s small and lacks a lot of those fancy options.

Example? I don’t use categories at all. Don’t need ’em. I have three ‘fora’ for high level organization. I went off the same general idea I use on my Blog. Three categories, a ton of tags.

1) About the site topic (screwdriver.com is about screwdrivers, talk about them)

2) About the Website (the code behind the site, suggestions, ideas, etc)

3) Everything else (screwdrivers are nice, but I have this hammer…)

Three big, broad categories/fora whatever. The tags I sort of let explode. And even then, I’m torn between structure and free form. I want a little structure (so you don’t get tags like ‘hammer’ and ‘hammers’ which really are the same thing), but I also want freedom.

So function. If you can get all that in a blog, have at Many people do and we call ’em LiveJournal Communities

[zappoman]

Looks like my problems come from Worpresses desire to add slashes to _POST (around line 527 of wp-settings, look for add_magic_quotes())… and bbPresses desire to do the same (calls to bb_global_sanitize() around like 140ish of bb-settings.php).

I can work around this with a hack to either detecting if WP_BB is defined, is there a better way to do this?

[zappoman]

An update: I got this working by doing “complex” integration of bbPress+Wordpress and now I run bbPress mounted at /forum/ but inside of bbPress it has access to all the WP functions and so my theme is able to run wp plugins, widgets, etc.

I wrote a plugin (that happens to live in wp, but really it’s all the same now).. that hooks ‘bb_template’, ‘bb_get_forum_bread_crumb’, ‘get_forums’, ‘bb_index.php_pre_db’, ‘bb_forum.php_pre_db’, and a couple others.

My plugin alows you to specify with “sub forum” is associated with a blog, and when you go to the forum page for that blog, it shows a fully functioning bbPress for that forum and below. It’s actually running bbPress, and this plugin, with access to the wordpress themes, widgets, etc.

What’s cool about this is that my main bbPress site, which includes all of the forums, including these blog forums, shows all the forum content as well.

[zappoman]

I’ve done some searching and not found anything related to this, so I appologize if someone elses google-fu is stronger than me.

I could use some help on this problem.

I have installed “complex” integration between bbPress (0.9) and WPMU (2.6) — yes, I have authentication working because I have custom auth plugins… that’s not my issue.

The problem I am running into is that IF I include wordpress then I’m getting extra attribute escapes on new posts and edit posts in bbPress.

So if I post a topic with a title of “test” it will end up posting as “test” if I’m just running bbPress (that’s good), but if I have wordpress loaded at the same time, I get \”test\”. And the resulting post displays in the forums.

Has anyone else ever seen this before?

[kevinjohngallagher]

So, the issue with the method implemented in : https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/hiding-subforums-subforums-from-subforum-pages

is that it only checks for the lineage of the forum before it.

This causes problems when you have multiple children to multiple children, as thus:

category

– Forum1

– – Child 1

– – – Child1’s child

– – Child 2

That method will make BBpress think that Child 2 is actually under Child1’s Child, because when testing if their parents are the same they clearly are not.

Instead, we have to create a nesting code that counts the depth to which we go as we trawl through each parent/child relationship – which is daft as there is a walker->depth function that we just don’t have access to via $GLOBALS.

EDIT:

Update – not knowing if it’s the last forum in a category is starting to kill me a little.

[kevinjohngallagher]

Funnily enough i’ve made the same hack solution as instructed in this topic: https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/hiding-subforums-subforums-from-subforum-pages

The problem is, the idea of checking for the forum parent id is ok when dealing with a singular table. If it’s got the same parent fine, if it’s not do something else. But the whole thing starts to get messy when dealing with non-linear tables. If your forum has multiple sub forums or parent child relationships the whole thing starts to crumble, or if you’re using a javascript DOM indexer 9say you want open close functionality), or if you’re aiming for a a UL/LI version instead of tables (i’m not against tables for tabular data btw – but for parent child iterations screen readers prefer UL/LI loops).

I’ll post my theme with these hacks and hopefully you can see what I mean, because i’m a bit stunned about how rigid this all is given the excellent coding that’s been developed by the authors so far.

[fontadoni]

Hello there.

I recently converted my phpbb 2.x forum to bbpress. I did this successfully with the provided script by iteisa.com (phpBB2bbpress). I was lucky that I had not upgraded to phpbb 3, so I followed the instructions carefully as I read lots of people having issues with the conversion while using higher versions of phpbb. I first installed bbpress 0.7, I ran the script, and when the database conversion was done sucesfully, I upgraded to bbpress: 0.9.0.2. This was a couple of days ago and I’m very happy with the results.

Now, for my actual question. I had a pretty small board with about 100 members and as I mentioned, the conversion was pretty successful, the only weird thing I’m noticing is that ID numbers for new members are way off. Let me give you an example. One of the last members to register before the conversion has an ID number of 107 (or profile.php?id=107). New members are now getting very high ID numbers, the last member that registered has an ID number of 1000000003 (profile.php?id=1000000003).

Is this something I should worry about? Can you guys give me a few pointers on how I could change this in the database? I would like to fix it.

Sorry for the long post and I thank you in advance for your time!

[kevinjohngallagher]

At the risk of looking like a double whammy in regards to the non nesting iterations of our outputted code, just using TRs with different classes, i’ve hit across another wee issue – but this time i’m sure there’s a simple solution I just can’t see the relavent code.

I want to be able to know if a forum has children or not, or more specifically when we move up or down a level in the “xPath” iteration.

I’m using a method of using $GLOBALS->forum_parent but what this currently requires me doing is testing to see if the forum has a parent that is not a category, then checking to see if the parent is the same as the previous forums parent, and then output relavent code to nest the forum in an actual parent child format:

Category

– Forum

– Forum

– – Forum

– – Forum

– Forum

This obviously creates havok and rather messy code for the closing of the nestings.

I realise that for small websites this will look like a formatting issue, but once you reach more than 2 levels in a parent child relationship, the ability to control nested relationships makes a huge difference.

Thanks for the help folks

EDIT:

Ok, i think i’ve found half the solution to the issue, and maybe i can phrase the question better now in BBterms…

I want to know, via PHP, before any code has been sent to the browser for the forum, if it is a FIRST CHILD or a LAST CHILD.

Now obviously, BBpress knows this because it’s outputting bb-last-child bb-first-child css, but how can I access these settings on the front-page.php ?

Thanks alot for all the help

[artgra]

have followed instructions and uploaded all files into my hosting account and triple checked everything is as it should be. Typed URL – http://fifolife.com/bbPress which is what I’m supposed to do (right?) and I get a message saying that (admin.php) is not listed on ‘line 1’.

As I’ve stated, I’ve triple checked that I uploaded correctly and it’s all exactly as the files should be. What’s going wrong?

[kevinjohngallagher]

Hi BBpress team,

I wanted to raise a concern I’ve had for sometime, but every time I think it’s the right thing to do, there’s a new release and I thought that maybe it’d be fixed. With 1.0 in alpha stage, I figure now’s a good time.

I think we’ve got a lot of this wrong.

Not the code, not the plugins, not the community, but more the mindset behind the important features. We’ve not built forum software, we’ve built blogging software.

We make posts, and people comment on them. The focus of BBpress is on individual posts with things like tags, as opposed to the forum/section/category to which it was posted. I also appreciate the desire to streamline the code base, which is wonderful, but users and the internet-public at large expect forums to have certain features – to rely on user updated plugins for these features is not an ideal solution.

I don’t say any of this to criticise, because you folks have done amazing work given the small team and smaller community working on BBpress, and I’m massively impressed; but I think given the scale of the project you’re working on you’d want real feedback.

Let me give an example if I may, which might illustrate the issue I and other users face.

In the 1.0alpha, we finally get Categories as standard, a feature that is absolutely essential for a forum (not a blog), otherwise the ‘forums’ are just a list of wordpress categories.

The problem with Categories, is that we don’t have ‘forums’ belonging to them, instead we have ‘forums’ that are called categories. A simple 1/0 in a db. But it’s not enough. Why?

Well it means that the loop in front-page.php to iterate through forums has to check to see if it’s a category. There is no independent check for categories and forums. This of course makes no difference in the world of all forums being in a singular table (the category can just be an individual TR and we can use a PHP continue to end the loop), but as soon as we move to multiple tables (which is essential for accessibility focussed websites), or nested divs this becomes quite useless.

What we need its:

Category

Forum

Topic

Forum

Topic

Topic

Reply

Reply

Each belonging to the parent above it. But we don’t have that in BBpress for categories. It’s massively short-sighted.

Now, this may seem like a simple thing, but I raise it as more of a mindset. We’re coming across a bug/issue/problem/feature request and we’re solving that specific request rather than seeing how it fits in. Take, if I may, the brilliant UNREAD POSTS plug-in by _CK_. When it was built it added a class to the specific span of the name of the topic post in the list of topics. Upon request it then did the same to the name of the forums. At no time was the thought process – wait a minute, if I put this at the top level item of the iteration that means that all child nodes can use it. _CK_ fixed this oversight yesterday and his plugin is now brilliant and easily rivalling the methodology used in the bigger forum solutions.

But it’s the mindset behind it I think we need to change. Fixing a singular problem, or even adding a new requested feature, without planning how it will impact others or if it’s at a high enough level is starting to make BBpress look amateurish.

I’m not saying we have to emulate the big boys and their massively bloated software, but what we have to accept, as a community, is that the likes of PHPbb and IPB etc. all do certain functions as standard, and these are what our users will expect.

I can’t see a roadmap or feature list for a finished 1.0 anywhere, I can’t even see a feature list for 1.5 anywhere (and yes I’ve been to the TRAC site for both). I just get the feeling as we move towards 1.0 release, that we’re not really releasing forum software, we’re releasing blogging software:

WordPress: categories > posts > comments

BBpress: forums > topics > replies

These are effectively one and the same. I’m quiety confident that someone could write a WP theme that effectively does what BBpress does. The BBpress front page list topics then forums (with the number of topics /posts in it). A WP page could list blog Posts titles and then categories (with the number of posts / comments in it). They are, to an end user, the one and the same.

I mean, was XML-RPC absolutely essential for BBpress? It seems to me that Categories, or the Unread Posts feature would be far more essential in that other forums have them. Why haven’t we used the same folder structure as WordPress so that we can easily convince wordpress users to also use BB? Heck why isn’t even our website set out in the same way (this may bring over some WP plugin creators)?

These things are not complains, and I do not raise them to flame or criticise in anyway, I merely hope to kick start a little discussion that can see us move BBpress forward. To often in the past few months I’ve suggested BBpress to friends or fellow developers and they’ve told me that it just doesn’t meet their needs – I think that’s something we need to fix, together

Kev

[kevinjohngallagher]

Hi Vuuch,

You copy the contents of the “bbpress” folder into your “forum” folder. Basically, click through your ZIP file and all the subsequent folders until you see files (not just a folder). Copy everything at that level to your forums folder.

Good Luck

[vuuch]

I want to ask before a create a bigger problem. I have not installed anything yet. I have downloded the install and extracted it on my machine. I read the installation docs and it says copy the extracted files to my forum location. I AM NOT SURE WHAT TO COPY??? in my folder with the zip file i have a folder bbpress 0.9.0.2, in that folder there is another folder bbpress and in that folder there are files and folders. So if I plan to have the forum at mysite.com/forum then do i copy the folder bbpress 0.9.0.2 and it’s subs or do i copy the content of bbpress to my forum folder?

thanks, sorry for such a minor question

[mithrandir321]

Hello, I have this code (which comes from another support thread here) on my front-page.php:

<table id=”highest”>

<?php $top_topics = bb_top_topics(); ?>

<?php foreach ( $top_topics as $topic ) : ?> // line 70

<tr<?php topic_class(); ?>>

<td>“><?php topic_title(); ?>

</td>

<td class=”num”><div class=”rating-holder”><?php bb_rating();?>

<span class=”count”><?php bb_rating_count(); ?>

</span>

</div>

</td></tr>

<?php endforeach; ?>

</table>

And under it the code for latest topics.

It gives me this error:

Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /home/home1/novapojistovna_cz/public_html/www/bbpress/bb-templates/kakumei/front-page.php on line 70

Can anybody help, please. Don’t quite understand what is wrong

Thanks

[Tom Lynch]

It works great but the thing is that I still cannot get cookie integration right.

[learningcomputer]

Wow, problem fixed, thanks chris.

[chrishajer]

No, it does not work like WordPress. There is nothing like a widget in bbPress. If you want to add adsense to your forum, you might want to read some of these posts:

https://bbpress.org/forums/tags/adsense

[learningcomputer]

i have difficulty inserting adsense on my bbpress installation the wordpress is installed in http://learningcomputer.info. The bbpress is in http://forum.learningcomputer.info. Can’t I insert it automatically just like regular wordpress? i mean using widget in the Design page?

Thanx for u’r attention

[Ed Torres]

In my case I tried to install this version using my laptop, under Firefox web browser and could not login or sometimes even finish the installation due to cookies problems.

I check Tools>Options>Privacy>Show Cookies… and my site was not there.

I then tried to add the site manually and the problem did not solved.

I deleted the /forum/ folder and the bb_ tables from the MySQL database and uploaded the bbForum again. This time I used my desktop and checked the cookies first. My site’s cookies were registered and the installation went smooth and the forum is operational.

Hopefully this would help somebody.

[chrishajer]

Yes, you can make a modification to that file to work around the disabled function.

getmypid() – often disabled on shared hosting systems

Line 43 of bb-includes/class-phpass.php needs to be edited to get around this function being disabled on your host.

[chrishajer]

Looks like your host has disabled a php function (getmypid) that bbpress needs. See this:

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/cannot-create-forum

[chrishajer]

No, do not post it here. If you like, you can email it to me as an attachment and I can check the syntax for you. You will find a way to contact me by clicking my profile, or just google chrishajer. I’m easy to find.

It’s important to not edit the file to hide passwords or keys because you could destroy valuable evidence.

[Meraj Chhaya]

Hi there

I have just installed bbPress in a new database, not integrated with WordPress. I manage to access the forum, which is located at thenokian95.com/forum, but I cannot login, it says:

Warning: Cannot modify header information – headers already sent by (output started at /home/nokisat7/public_html/thenokian95.com/forum/bb-config.php:1) in /home/nokisat7/public_html/thenokian95.com/forum/bb-includes/pluggable.php on line 188

Warning: Cannot modify header information – headers already sent by (output started at /home/nokisat7/public_html/thenokian95.com/forum/bb-config.php:1) in /home/nokisat7/public_html/thenokian95.com/forum/bb-includes/pluggable.php on line 228

My installation went successfully, and I can register users. Here is the installation log, with a changed password:

Referrer is OK, beginning installation…

Step 1 – Creating database tables

>>> Create table bb_forums

>>> Create table bb_posts

>>> Create table bb_topics

>>> Create table bb_topicmeta

>>> Create table bb_users

>>> Create table bb_usermeta

>>> Create table bb_tags

>>> Create table bb_tagged

Step 2 – WordPress integration (optional)

>>> Integration not enabled

Step 3 – Site settings

>>> Site name: The Nokia N95 forum

>>> Site address (URL): http://thenokian95.com/forum/

>>> From email address: only.meraj@merajnet.com

>>> Key master created

>>>>>> Username: admin

>>>>>> Email address: only.meraj@merajnet.com

>>>>>> Password: something

>>> Description: Just another bbPress community

>>> Forum name: First forum

>>>>>> Topic: Your first topic

>>>>>>>>> Post: First Post! w00t.

>>> Key master email sent

Installation complete!

I have left bb-config.php and pluggable.php in CHMOD 755. I read other topics in this forum, and I had looked to see if there were extra whitespaces, but everything seems ok.

What am I doing wrong?

Thank you in advance

[dchest]

_ck_, yes, currently the plugin doesn’t handle errors if recaptcha.net is down. It’s not difficult to add, though, and I’ll do it later. However, I’m not sure what’s better: just stop registrations for the period of recaptcha.net downtime, or allow registrations without captcha (and get spammed)? Maybe even fall back to your math solution?

[_ck_]

Just out of curiosity, what happens if recaptcha.net is down or gets hit by a ddos attack? Do thousands of sites that rely on them suddenly stop being able to register people?

I need to upgrade my Human Test so it doesn’t rely on sessions and then it should be even more useful for a completely local solution.

[feastoffools]

We are using WordPress 2.3.3 and Bbpress 0.8.3.1

This sounds wonderful, and will be really helpful in driving traffic around inside our site. Thank you!

Do you guys know of a developer that might be available to do this implementation for us?