[Matt Mullenweg]

Groovy. This is the fun part. A merry band of hackers trying to change the web, or at least our small slice of it.

I’m going to send everybody an email so we can start up a discussion and let’s also try for an IRC meetup next week.

MT reached out to Sam for the redesign files he was working on as well, and we can decide what the priorities are for the redesign when we chat.

[Ben L.]

What exactly are you trying to click on?

[jimgozieo]

I’ve just installed bbpress 1.0.2 and when I go into the forum managemnet page (in the admin section), I have to say the point and click function for editing the forums is a nightmare to use. You have to click a hundred times before the point and click appears. I only have this problem on the forum management page – the rest of the bbpress brilliant.

[Marius-]

Well, you have the icecream truck Ben L. haha, just kidding. I agree with you.

[Ben L.]

I don’t understand your logic. BuddyPress is a plugin for WPMU, which is a multi-blog version of WordPress. bbPress is a forum program. Not a plugin for anything, just a standalone forum.

Merging BuddyPress and bbPress would be like merging a car company and a grocery store. You can drive a car to a grocery store and carry groceries in it, but integration is as close as you can get to merging them.

Besides, no other major forum software (phpBB, IPB, VBulletin, SMF, etc) have a social network built in or are a plugin for a blogging program.

[Ben L.]

https://trac.bbpress.org/browser/trunk/bb-templates/kakumei/front-page.php?rev=2362#L36

To save you some time, the code is <?php topic_page_links(); ?>

[Marius-]

No then it doesnt matter, if you dont know what you’re agreeing to, it’s just another obstacle in the way of registering. BBPress have been smart to remove it.

Registering should be as easy as possible, in an ideal world, it shouldn’t be required at all actually. Hopefully this Facebook integration and Open ID stuff will popularise one day.

[chavesvonga]

I registered just fine with bbPress too.

[chavesvonga]

Just want to say hi to everyone. I’m a new member to bbpress forums

[Dennis]

My name is Dennis Morhardt, the man behind the german communities of BuddyPress and WordPress MU. (For you Matt, the guy from the WordCamp in Germany). I think bbPress 2.0 sould the release with the best WordPress integration, maybe as plugin or a combination of plugin and stand-a-lone version with the possibile to use normal wordpress themes. But my focus is internationalization and localization and I would like to help

[Ben L.]

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/plugins-in-my-plugins-not-installing#post-61075 <- there it is.

https://trac.bbpress.org/attachment/ticket/1019/no-backslash.patch <- and there’s the fix.

(The file is bb-includes/class.bb-dir-map.php)

[Marius-]

Ever since I started using BBpress, I’ve seen users like you constantly nag about Buddypress. My impression is that this is a forum made by someone else, it’s another program, and I don’t understand the need to constantly speak about it here?

Is there something I’m missing? Why is Buddypress relevant here at all?

[Null]

Some just want it what it is: a FORUM, no fancy community options, no wordpress, just a stand alone forum. If this forum would require wordpress to function or buddypress, I would ditch this great peace of software. It would get too bloated IMHO.

1 of the great things about bbPress is that its small and clean. Want to add stuff, install a plugin. You can make it function the way you want it.

[hpguru]

gnawph THANK YOU! Very good plugin without stupid emotions pop-up.

[Sven Lehnert]

I really start to love the idea of merging bbpress and buddypress into one software.

Forums are already community software and need most of the buddypress parts.

Other bbpress plugins which offer simalar functionality will anyway fall behind the powerful buddypress solutions.

I think there are just positive effects to bring these two together.

The Buddypress community is young and has a lot of power. I think there are many people just want to jump into the project at the day it will be part of buddypress 100% and not half adapted like now.

I have the feeling the bbpress community is suffering from frustrated people, who were expecting much more from the project.

Now there is Buddypress and brings all together with new dynamic and a positive developing feeling.

Why bbpress not let participate from it and become together a brilliant community software?

In my dreams I see wp and wpmu being one and bbpress and buddypress merged to one wp community component .

What does the bbpress community think about it?

Looking for feedback

[johnhiler]

Sadness – Since you quoted me, I wanted to make sure to correct the record in a few places:

Matt must care about bbPress – he wrote the initial version himself!

http://ma.tt/2004/12/bbpress/

Sam was not working for free when he programmed v 1 – he was a paid employee of Automattic from Nov 07 to August 09:

http://unlettered.org/2007/11/13/wax-on/

http://www.linkedin.com/in/sambauers

Just wanted to make sure that any inaccuracies weren’t left uncorrected…

[r-a-y]

@sadness

No need for speculation, hearsay and playing the blame game.

Posts like this do not help matters.

@michael888

If you can’t wait for the WP/WPMU merge for BuddyPress, use Mingle, a social networking plugin by Blair Williams that works on regular WordPress. It’s already quite stable for such a young plugin.

Good news is you can still use your existing bbPress as well

[sadness]

Automattic is funded and have enough money to hire a lead developer to take charge (same way as wp), what Matt posted really gives me the chill when it comes to bbpress roadmap…

_ck_ already said three months ago that if things didn’t change by December, she wouldn’t be doing plugins upgrades for 1.0: http://bbshowcase.org/forums/topic/suggestion-to-ck-regarding-donations#post-1641 I can’t understand why Automattic doesn’t send her a $5-10k donation… bbPress would lose so much momentum if she stopped contributing.

I agree with both of you. I was the one that made that post on bbshowcase suggesting to _ck_ that she accept paypal for donations and/or monetize her site in other ways. But the main sentiment she shared with us is that she feels under-appreciated, which we all can understand because it is TRUE.

At the end of the day, there is absolutely nobody to blame for all this madness except Matt. He had 2 amazing programmers running the bbpress project for him, for FREE, and instead of showing them some appreciation, let alone paying them for all their hard work (out of his millions of dollars), he decided to be selfish and focus on WP and screw the people who were making bbpress such a huge success.

He barely gave bbpress any recognition, and still doesn’t. He has just never cared much about it. Christ, look at how shitty the WP.org forums are. They haven’t been updated in years. He just grabs the basic forum code for WP and BuddyPress and hacks it to work smoothly, and that’s it.

There are only 2 reasons why Sam and _ck_ “left”, “are leaving”, or “were removed” and that is because there have been sour relations for a very long time between WP and bbpress. There are only 2 causes:

1) they were being taken advantage of

2) they were being under-appreciated

Both of these are the fault of Matt, who in his juvenile ways has never given 2 shits about the worker bees that he has been so blessed with and who have made his open source projects take off. It’s the same exact attitude that you see with the a-holes at Facebook and other “startup successes” that were simply at the right place at the right time yet who think of themselves as gods.

Matt, get your shit together, and show some respect and appreciation for the people around the world who made, and continue to make, you successful. You didn’t create yourself buddy. Grow up and show a little generosity and maturity and manage bbpress with some true class.

This project will not go away people so stop with the farewells.

…That’s unless Matt deletes it, of course.

[Steven Hodson]

In a previous question regarding problems with getting plugins to play nice (http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/plugins-in-my-plugins-not-installing) you replied (which is strangely missing from the thread at this point) with a link to a piece of patching code. Unfortunately with your reply going AWOL the link is missing now so is there any chance you can point me to it again. As well any chance of a hint to where the code is added to (file name) as I am new to bbPress so it would help to know what file it is that I need to patch.

many thanks in advance.

[Ben L.]

I have a copy of it lying around – I’m not sure if I modified it at some point, though. http://www.mediafire.com/?jmyy5ym5em3

[buddha-trance]

@jackey, since you deep integrated, the slashes problem could originate from WP, as a “magic quotes” issue

http://bestservedcold.com/news/bbpress-and-wordpress-magic-quotes/

http://thedeadone.net/forum/?p=1211

[jackey]

@buddha trance – I suspect is is theme related but it is infectueus. The other themes, even the backend seems to be infected with the \\\

It must be something tot that obvious… I suspect it all started when I installed the iBlogPro Forum that demanded ‘deep’ integration with WP.

Checked out the demo forum of ‘iBlogPro Forum’ and noticed it suffered the same problem with the backslashes.

Re-installing bbPress made no difference.

[chrishajer]

It used to be available here:

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/where-to-get-the-theme-of-bbpressorg-for-v101#post-45238

But bbshowcase.org was shut down recently. I don’t know of another source. Maybe someone who is using it could share their copy.

[charlie_the_cat]

I would love to have bbPress on our site no matter what I try, it will not install. I get the bbPress installer and Step – Database configuration. I enter the Database name, User name and Password but every time I get the message ‘There was a problem connecting to the database you specified.

Please check the settings, then try again.’

I have tried just about every possible permutation of possible names but no matter what I try, it doesn’t make any difference. I have searched these forums but nothing seems to cover my particular problem. It is a MYSQL database newly created (I have destroyed several to see if that made any difference).

Anybody have any ideas please?

[Marius-]

I think that was some of my problem, it didnt work untill you clicked on the forum category and used the button in there. But when trying to create polls on the frontpage it didnt work. Not sure, coming back to this soon.