[Andre]

Can someone please give an update on whether or not bbpress as a plugin will be available for testing this week and let us know where we need to go for updates? I check http://bbpdevel.wordpress.com/ and http://bbdevel.wordpress.com/, but neither has been updated in a while.

[Ricardo]

From a user prespective

@kevinjohngallagher and _CK_

i agree with you two, specially the parts where you say bbpress.org users and mods are updated on bbpress stuff through other sites, relying on wordpress dashboard to spread the news sounds like a last minute attempt to minimize damages, but hey…nobody is perfect)

A lot of bbpress sucess is due to pluggin developers and i think its “out of order” to post bbpress news on buddypress blog, there are moderators here that are pluggin developers that feel “betrayed and hopless” because they spend countless hours and days and nobody tells them nothing… how would you feel JJJ if it was you? i’m aware nobody is perfect but you did talk about bbpress there and even linked to bbpress.org so why not say something here first? “i feel” your pain mods…

about the name change… i aalso agree it should be called bbpress 2.0 but i think that alone wont stop all the confusion around different versions… i agree with you (_CK_) but newcomers will still be confused wether its 2.0 or 1.2 because the real confusion its not the name but the several different versions.

All in all i think the next version is what a lot of users wanted (pluggin integration, no more backpress etc), thing is a lot of the sucess is due to pluggin authors that spent countless hours making sure their pluggins/themes work across several versions, now they have (or not) to start over.

2 last questions:

can we install the next version on its own? where can we download the alpha/beta of it? where is it? i would like to test even if its not fully functional like we do for wordpress, i can only find reference to the pluggin version at: http://svn.automattic.com/bbpress/branches/plugin/

not enough communication around… Good luck and thanks to everyone that works on bbpress wether coding/theming/pluggins or here maintaining the forum.

[Paul Gregory]

frooyo, if you see point 7.4 of the draft proposal you’ll see that it shouldn’t negatively affect this fork. Kevinjohn reckons that the bbPress plugin code and community will be excellently managed by JJJ. The fork will not prioritise integration with WordPress, meaning the fork can instead concentrate on being lightweight and modular (with 25 modules bundled in).

So that’s alright then. Oh, except at least one supporter of the fork thinks that “we will surely need to keep it tightly integrated with WordPress to market it and make it a success”.

I don’t really understand what part of bbPress it is that Kevinjohn wants to save. To me, it seems that the main thing he wants to keep from bbPress is the developers…

Right now, we’ve alot of exceptionally talented Developers, and not so much in the PM/BA department, and I’m merely trying to fill the gap I can be most helpful in.

Kevinjohn, you’re not filling a gap in bbPress, you’re creating a new project with all-new gaps and filling one or two of them.

Throughout the document you say “we” and “us” to mean either the bbPress community or the fork community. I wonder if at some points you forget that there even is a difference – that a fork is a breaking away. A new software, not a saving of the old software.

I was attracted to bbPress because it is the forum from the WordPress people and I like the tags. It is a shame that the project hasn’t flourished like WP has. I can understand that people will be attracted to a continuation of bbPress, but without the ties to WP the fork needs to stand alone with a clear identity. Heck, bbPress’s main problem is that it has a muddied identity – is it 0.9, 1.0 or plugin?

You say the proposal is a draft one, but I’m not entirely clear when/if you plan to release an amended version. I think that what you need to do after your blue-sky and requirement refinement phases is to publish a detailed proposal, a manifesto for the project, identifying what parts you’re taking from bbPress and what parts need to be rewritten, and asking “who’s with us?”.

Indeed, that’s what I hoped to see in the draft document, but instead I was disappointed by the contradictions and lack of detail. However, a definition that is refined by community consent rather than one man’s vision may well be the best start, and this fork may excite me yet.

With the fork defined clearly in a proper proposal, people who were particularly attached to rejected ideas can leave, and other developers and contributors will join. Everyone on the fork will believe in the project. You’ll know how many people are truly committed, and you can plan accordingly.

And this process will probably inspire even more forks from teams and individuals.

I suspect that the best post-bbPress projects will be rewrites of the core, like _ck_ has identified is necessary for her intriguing project. And that’s fine. Take the spirit, learn the lessons. Don’t keep bbPress code alive for the sake of it, just write the best forum software you can.

Kevinjohn, it may not seem it, but I wish your project well.

[alexborras]

I have a problem with bbPress installation.

I first installed WordPress 3.0, BuddyPress and forums that come with BuddyPress.

After, disable the plugin BuddyPress and all other plugins associated with it. I will not use BuddyPress.

Upload bbPress to a new folder: http://www.mydomain.com/bbPress

With de browser go to http://www.mydomain.com/bbpress

But do not start the installation of bbPress if that appears directly in the form to register as a user of the forums.

When I try to login and then sends me to an old path BuddyPress:

http://www.mydomain.com/wp-content/plugins/buddypress/bp-forums/bbpress/bb-login.php

How I can do to install a clean bbPress without interfering with BuddyPress?

[webprof]

Ok, so I have managed (??) to install the latest version.

But the problem now is that admin area doe not look correct. If I understand correctly it should look similar to wordpress and it does not.

Also, if I wanted to make changes to a theme, is there any way to make the changes inside the admin area or do I have make changes to the actual file and then ftp?

[_ck_]

I totally agree that _ck_’s involvement is crucial.

Y’all don’t need me. I highly encourage you to keep going with the fork and there doesn’t have to be just one fork.

Remember, WordPress itself is just one (big) fork (of b2evolution).

I’ll be taking a sabbatical for the rest of the year starting next month or so as I have serious real-life things to deal with, and then *maybe* announcing my own project next year in the spring. Instead of a fork it will be a 50% or more rewrite of the entire core, fixing a few legacy problems. But it would not be available to the public for at least a year from now at the soonest and it won’t be fully backwards compatible.

It literally took me three years but I kinda figured out an indirect way of doing something like this. Part of the solution is so simple that I guarantee WordPress will “steal” the idea within six months of me publishing the code because it’s backwards compatible and a great idea that no-one else apparently has thought of yet for some mysterious reason. I’ve already tested a proof-of-concept and it’s one of those things that once you see it, everyone says “well that’s so simple anyone could have thought of it”. But no one has, yet.

[_ck_]

Looks great but frame is definitely not the way to do it

If the part on top is just html, copy the html into bbpress’s header.php and make sure you include the stylesheet.

If it’s being rendered by wordpress, just copy the final result (use the view selected source feature on Firefox, etc.)

Although I would not attempt what I am recommended unless you know html+css.

[maxumimike]

First time I installed BBPress it didn’t work, for some odd reason there was no way to login.

So I wiped away and re-installed and now it’s all working. At the moment I’m using a downloadable theme and integrating the forum into my WordPress just by using an iFrame on a page.

It’s a bit of a naff way of doing it but the style of the forum actually works well enough with my WordPress theme that I’m contemplating keeping it and not really making any changes.

Anyway, I literally just did this an hour or so ago and I think everything’s working, feel free to take a look and tell me what you think!

http://www.maxumi.co.uk/maxumiforum/

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

So finally we are rolling. I am with the fork definitely and I totally agree that _ck_’s involvement is crucial.

Its true that both of you are on a fork and has custom core by now but hey its certainly possible to bridge them up slowly and efforts from both of your side will emerge as one, a strong one infact.

And regarding collecting bbPress ideas, we need something on board, on the web live where everyone can see it and interact with it.

– Voting system on ideas

And we will surely need to keep it tightly integrated with WordPress to market it and make it a success. Else the WP community will not gain interest in it.

I am also in favor of a fork of bbPress 0.9

Dashboard theming can be done.

But I think there are going to be issues in different view of how you have divided things to be Core plugins and like because everyone will have a different opinion and not managing this thing can make those people turn away which is something we can’t afford. Not every one but big players. You know what I mean.

[ms420]

I want to hire an expert to import my PhpBB forum and other contents from a PHP/MS SQL based website into bbPress and integrate with WordPress.

If you are interested please respond to this thread.

Thanks in advance.

[pagal]

I don’t know what’s the policies of Automattic regarding usernames like facebook

http://www.facebook.com/help/?faq=15109

So, can I get a username which is already registered in bbPress user database?

Someone register this username 2 years back, but he/she did not active since then, not even make a single post in bbpress or wordPress suppport or blog ( like desired-username.wordpress.com)

@Moderators / @Admin

So can I get this inactive/useless username.

I don’t want to disclose this username right now. First I want to know its feasibility.

Is it possible or not? Thanks,

With Regards

Pagal

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

Ease vs Performance

Tradeoff

[anthonyluth]

Yes I’ve followed that but I still am unable to get the title, the header menus or even the footer to appear on the page. You can check it out here. If you look at the main website you will see the header menu that should appear. I’ve made the adjustments to header.php as well as footer.php and the theme does change, it simply doesn’t add the title or the menu.

[MathiasB]

Just read the last paragraph here: https://bbpress.org/documentation/integration-with-wordpress/

[jurasiks]

https://codex.wordpress.org/Writing_a_Plugin

[wblogan]

In the end we’re all “end users”. It all depends on where you start and where you want to finish. As good as it is and as grateful as I am for it, your tutorial did not tell me exactly what I needed to know in a way that I could understand so that bbPress and WordPress worked in my situation. If it had I would not have come here. We’re all getting and giving “techhow” with some end in view.

This is a good place and time to give my thanks to the developers of WordPress and bbPress! I’m really amazed at their “techhow” and grateful for their willingness to share it.

By the way, I found the tutorial at wpbbpthemes very helpful as well. (I actually started with it.) Thanks to the author!

[MathiasB]

But it’s a lot more easy, when you add a page in WP will it automatically appear in the header of bbPress…

But on slower hosts will it slow down a lot your site.

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

You will need to do some stuff in the WordPress header.php file.

Take a look here – http://www.wpwebhost.com/make-bbpress-theme-match-with-wordpress-by-deep-integration/ (last section – WordPress theme editing)

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

You can do that with deep integration by what MathiasB suggested or how your theme handles it. wp_page_menu or wp_list_pages()

Pros & Cons – http://blog.ashfame.com/2010/02/bbpress-deep-integration-advantages-disadvantages/

Deep integration – http://www.wpwebhost.com/make-bbpress-theme-match-with-wordpress-by-deep-integration/

Better one – Copy over the html of navigation to bbPress side. Its not worth using deep integration just for this alone.

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

Its very much similar to a WordPress plugin. Get started with those. Hope that helps

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

obviously you would need to deep integrate it with WordPress to use a WordPress function on bbPress side.

Deep integration – http://blog.ashfame.com/2010/02/deep-integration-bbpress-wordpress/

Its better if you just copy the menu html over to bbPress theme. How much do you edit navigation anyway.

Advantage & Disadvantage of deep integration – http://blog.ashfame.com/2010/02/bbpress-deep-integration-advantages-disadvantages/

[anthonyluth]

Ok so I’ve got my instance running on Deep Integration but I’ve got a few errors. For one, the headers call but no title displays. Also, I am unable to set how the sidebar is registered. Any thoughts or any help?

[MathiasB]

Just enable WordPress functions in bbPress and paste this in your header:

<?php wp_page_menu(); ?>

If you wanna have a homelink:

<?php wp_page_menu('show_home=Home'); ?>

[wblogan]

The “deep integration” code still breaks my site, but the link to the style sheet in header.php wasn’t working because I had bb-styles.php in the wrong place.

Also I’m loading WordPress from wp-blog-header.php instead of wp-load.php.

The only thing that remains is to figure out how to make changes to the bbPress pages without making changes to the whole site since it’s calling two style sheets. I’ve spent no small amount of time with “inspect element” and “firebug” in Google Chrome trying to find the styles I want to change on the bbPress pages. You could tell me in short order I’m sure how to make the changes I want. But as I said, I wanted to get all of the kinks worked out before I go public with it.

When I get it all figured out I’m thinking I’ll publish the info specific to integrating Twentyten and Kakumei (for those of us unambitious, ignorant folks who don’t have the where with all to do something original). I assume that you won’t mind me referencing your tutorial? No need to reinvent the wheel!

Thanks again for your tutorial, your interest and your help!

[kikko088]

I ask you another thing, there is a way for put a menu of wordpress (then with wp_list_page() ) pages on bbpress forum without insert:

require_once(dirname(__FILE__) . ‘/../wp-load.php’); ??

if I do the deep integration putting this string on my bb-config a plugin go in conflict…

ay idea?

Is better then i’m open a new topic?

kikko088