[ryanmurray]

Hi,

I’ve installed bbPress on my WordPress site and to get the functionality I want I need to add a couple of plugins to bbPress. I created the ‘my-plugins’ folder and put them in there but now what do I do? I’ve had a look through the documentation and it doesn’t mention where in the admin I can activate them?

Any help is much appreciated.

Ryan

[Anointed]

As bbPress follows all WordPress code standards, I am going to assume it is something to do with thesis.

Chris is a great coder so I am certain that he would have no problem coming up with a fix for thesis.

[Gautam Gupta]

You can view how I added settings for my plugin, within the bbPress options page here (without tabbing, just appends to the options page): https://plugins.trac.wordpress.org/browser/bbp-topic-views/trunk/bbp-topic-views.php?rev=449878#L215

[Anointed]

The theme on this website is custom and is not yet running the 2x plugin, so no, there is nothing ‘out of the box’ that will look like it does here.

It is however more than possible to build your own custom theme that looks and behaves like this site does. Not easy but possible. Gotta remember, bbPress uses templates in the same was as WordPress does.

[John James Jacoby]

The WordPress core tab UI is built into the header area of the settings page, and consequentially does not have an API to go along with it. The other issue with using tabs instead of new settings pages, the navigation doesn’t appear anywhere else and requires more clicks to get to secondary tabs.

I’m not a fan of nesting options inside so many tabs. bbPress core settings aren’t the place to put theme options. You can use the WordPress settings API if you want to add additional settings that fit side-by-side with bbPress core features. Anything else probably deserves it’s own unique UI and page.

[antonchanz]

Well I can confirm that the latest and compatible versions of both these plugins are now definitely available on wordpress.org

I’ve set up a test forum with pretty much just these two plugins active and you can see the results here:

http://bbpressbbcode.chantech.org/forums/topic/testing-shortcode-whitelist/

[Unsal Korkmaz]

http://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-posts-2-posts-bbpress-and-custom-post-type-relationships-didnt-work

When i try to publish that, website not showing half of site.

Can you check what is problem?

[sjd4]

The change for bbp-common-template.php worked for the logout, but for the login for the widget I had to comment out lines 938 and 939:

//$redirect_to = apply_filters( ‘bbp_user_login_redirect_to’, ” );

//bbp_redirect_to_field( $redirect_to );

I still have problems using the the WordPress meta for log out. Has anyone figured anymore of this out?

[Good in Today]

Well, not really. See there’s smart people here and I was merely using the Welcome Pack as an example. I want to know how to insert the users name into the URL path, that’s actually the question. And since there’s just a few folks here who use WordPress, BuddyPress, and yes bbPress, I really think I’m in the right place to ask smart people questions.

[antonchanz]

Oops!

Embarrassing user error with svn. Checked the project in without adding the files! Then assumed wordpress was being slow updating the plugin page like it was when I checked in the first version of bbpress2-bbcode.

I have checked it in successfully now. It still isn’t showing up, but I suspect it will now shortly…

[John James Jacoby]

Regarding setting bbPress up and changing the “Forums” title to “Discussion” simply make a page in WordPress titled Discussion with the slug as ‘discussion’ and make sure your forum index is set to ‘discussion’ in your forum settings. Done.

[John James Jacoby]

bbPress 2.0 uses the same database and tables as your WordPress blog. Do not scale to plan, plan to scale. I.E. don’t worry about how big you think your forums will be, worry about how big they need to be. 1gig is plenty huge for a DB, and will be difficult to manage without a dedicated sysadmin. At which point, it’s no longer your issue to labor over.

[John James Jacoby]

Negatively criticizing the development team isn’t the way to get help with things that are specific to your opinions and forum needs. bbPress has historically never been a “full width” forum, and since most WordPress themes aren’t, why would it?

I understand that you are striving for a particular look. If you’d rather spend your time writing content, there are an infinite number of developers in the WordPress community that could probably save you time and headaches. In almost any theme under your control, it shouldn’t take more than 5 minutes to make a full width forum.

[Darren_Mooney]

Yeah I tried that after my last post, both the default BP theme and a basic wordpress theme, both stock, and the problem was still there.

This is what has made me believe its not a BBP problem. Because of this I’ve marked this topic as resolved and posted a support topic on wordpress.org:

https://wordpress.org/support/topic/author-username-not-displaying?replies=1

This one is really bothering me, I’m not sure what could be causing it.

Thank you for all of your help, Andre.

[thetbasket]

Hi Travis,

Thanks for the response. My theme was different, as you had suggested, and I am working on it. Although I’m now in a little bit more of a complicated predicament because I am trying to use bbpress through buddypress, and on the buddypress install the forums options is not pointing the indicated page to the bbpress forums.

Anyway, I did misread or misunderstand your first suggestion – sorry about that. As far as creating a full-width template, I am nearly positive I did so (I created a template specifically for that page to be full width), but nevertheless I will double check next time.

I don’t want to get too deeply into this, but the fact that we use the word “blog” and “forum” already indicates that they are different even though they are both CMS’s. The issue is not that one is a CMS and the other is not, it is a matter of how the content is managed and it’s purpose.

A blog is a blog because, generally, one user is contributing the content that a multiplicity of users is commenting on. So a standard blog Write-and-Respond system works nicely, and works nicely even in a narrow space because it usually contains one article with comments on the article.

A forum, on the other hand, is a multiplicity of users creating multiple threads all scaffolded by an overarching structure of the forum and subforums. The way forums have been built thus far has been usually in a wide content format so users can see 1) The Thread title 2) The amount of replies 3) The last user that replied etc. etc. In other words, it is build upon a more horizontal management format, whereas the blog can get away with a more vertical format.

Of course now and into the future there will be all sorts of variations on this. But for the end user, I want a forum that is a forum, not a forum that is a blog. In other words, wide-formatted with the expected information that forums have traditionally contained up to this point.

The strong point of bbpress is its integration and especially it’s style integration. Anyone who has attempted to create themes for phpBB knows what a nightmare it can be. However, if you try to smush a phpBB forum in-between two or even besides one sidebar, see what happens. Not only that, but those sidebars from the blog are almost inherently irrelevant to the function of the forum. In other words — useless screen real estate being taken from what otherwise would be a smoothly functioning, articulated forum.

And I can understand that WordPress vanilla functions fine, and being opensource one could reprogram it into Duke-Nukem 3D, almost. As a user of wordpress, the most frustrating thing consistently is that I feel like I am hacking CSS and PHP files more than I am creating content, and perhaps this is because I am a bit persnickety and want a particular look, but a full width forum from a forum plugin? To me things like this (and there are enough) are just plain flaws in development. I shouldn’t need to hack anything to get a forum to operate in full width because that is how forums best operate according to contemporary standards. Perhaps you should need to hack to get something to operate somehow unique and fascinating, but hacking code to get something to perform as you would expect it to – from your hours and hours and hours of forum experience? To me this is on the development teams shoulders.

Again, thank you so much for taking the time to reply. I may be back after I have a chance to try what you had suggested.

By the way, after installing buddypress all of the groups, member pages, activity pages, etc. were ALL operating on full width. The only part of the entire install that persists in operating between my sidebars is bbpress, and it is the only one I am dissatisfied with. So now I have to go through hours of who knows what to get something working the way it always has worked.

Again, bravo for bbpress, it’s a great project with a great future, and there is a lot to be said for it. But that doesn’t excuse it from what needs work, and for those of us who want to deliver content, we would much rather spend our time on managing the delivery of content than on managing the content management system.

I’d rather be spending this time developing the forum, not on developing the forum development software.

[Darren_Mooney]

I’ve actually just noticed that if I changed the author tag on blog posts on wordpress to:

<?php the_author() ?>

It doesn’t display there either. I guess its not a BBP problem after all, but leaves me even more confused.

[antonchanz]

I’ve noticed a lot of people looking for plugins that add bbcode to the forum in the new bbPress 2.0 version. I was also interested so I paid attention. I think someone mentioned that the way to do it would be to use wordpress shortcodes, but that before enabling these in forum topics and replies it might be best to create a whitelist of safe shortcodes that you want to allow.

Well I waited and no-one developed this, and so I looked into doing it myself. I have now done this and added my first ever wordpress plugins into the repository! These being:

bbpress2-shortcode-whitelist

and bbpress2-bbcode

Using these two together creates a safer way of including bbcode in your forum. I will expand the whitelist to include other cool but safe shortcode plugins as I become aware of them. I also plan to add an admin page that allows manual addition of shortcodes you wish to allow.

[travis.hill]

@thetbasket, could you provide a URL, please?

…but was a no-go for me.

Your problem still exists because you probably have a completely different theme than that user did.

…but the sidebars still remained.

Are you using a Full Width Page Template? These templates do not have a sidebar. They are included with your theme. You select a template when you create a page.

I removed the div.bbp-breadcrumb in bbpress.css as suggested…

I didn’t suggest removing div.bbp-breadcrumb, I suggested removing the float:left from div.bbp-breadcrumb. You’ll probably want to style the breadcrumb.

But there was no change.

Again, this is probably because your not using a full width page template.

…but at the same time the function of a forum does not necessarily adhere to that format or fit appropriately within it.

Perhaps I shouldn’t have said “what WordPress is built to do”, because WordPress is nearly limitless. It’s only restriction is the ability of it’s builder. There is a solution to almost any problem within WordPress. Sure, a vanilla installation of WordPress is pretty limited, but alas, it can be extended to do very powerful things.

A forum software is exactly what WordPress is. A Content Management System.

A blog is a forum. A person creates a post (topic) and people comment (reply) on it.

A forum is a blog. A person creates a topic (post) and people reply (comment) to it.

A blog and forum are one in the same. How can it not fit appropriately?

For me, the benefit of having such a plugin is to have a forum that operates well and lightly as a forum on a wordpress site, not necessarily a forum that works within the confines of a wordpress post or page, which is not how forums have functioned nor probably how they best function – considering the horizontal space they typically need for the post title, user that posted, number of replies, and so on, which take up quite a bit of horizontal real-estate.

Again, I think your missing the full width page template.

And since the typical widget that would be placed on the sidebar of a blog would be unlikely to directly apply to the forum, what you have in the end is an unnecessary utilization of space that would – for the end user – probably be better used to create a forum which is less cramped, more spacious, etc. – especially when they have the option to access the widgets and sidebars by going back to the blog – that which those widgets and sidebars were likely created for in the first place.

The bulk of your post deals with your forum not “fitting” within a page, because of the sidebar. I understand where your coming from, so please verify that you are using a full width page template, as these typically don’t have sidebars. This should solve your sidebar issue. If you don’t have a full width page template, create one.

WordPress Codex: Creating Your Own Page Templates

The last resort, and not a good one, is to comment out the get_sidebar() code in your template files.

[Trobee]

Hi all,

I am currently running a multi-site wordpress site which has separate bbpress installations, as there are common forums, plus private ones for each sub site. As I needed multiple different private forums I though this was the best method to achieve this. I was wondering if it is possible to, using shortcode or otherwise, show a list of forums from more than one subsite on a page?

[atiminou3]

I had the same problem with login, when I tried doing what mixlplex2 above explained.

Tried some other options on https://codex.wordpress.org/Function_Reference/wp_logout_url

but that seems to be the best one for now.

[Good in Today]

So my Hosting Provider gives me unlimited MySql Database’s but they can only be 1Gig in size. I am wondering how WordPress, BuddyPress, and yes bbPress is going to handle this. Can I set a seperate database up for each of my topics in the Forums? Will MySql simply start up a second database when the first one fills? Just not sure how this is going to affect the site, if at all. Any thoughts?

[thetbasket]

Thank you for the information.

I just tried the solution you had posted for a Full-width forum, but the sidebars still remained. It seemed to work for the other user, but was a no-go for me.

I removed the div.bbp-breadcrumb in bbpress.css as suggested and replaced it with:

.bbp-forums {

width: 100%;

}

But there was no change.

Any tips would be great. I can understand what you’re saying about how wordpress is built for a certain function, but at the same time the function of a forum does not necessarily adhere to that format or fit appropriately within it.

For me, the benefit of having such a plugin is to have a forum that operates well and lightly as a forum on a wordpress site, not necessarily a forum that works within the confines of a wordpress post or page, which is not how forums have functioned nor probably how they best function – considering the horizontal space they typically need for the post title, user that posted, number of replies, and so on, which take up quite a bit of horizontal real-estate.

And since the typical widget that would be placed on the sidebar of a blog would be unlikely to directly apply to the forum, what you have in the end is an unnecessary utilization of space that would – for the end user – probably be better used to create a forum which is less cramped, more spacious, etc. – especially when they have the option to access the widgets and sidebars by going back to the blog – that which those widgets and sidebars were likely created for in the first place.

[thetbasket]

I’m also considering how this can be done. I have a left and right sidebars with widgets in them that I wish would not even be displayed. As far as the forum is concerned, I would like it to be the full width of the theme without the sidebars/widgets but see no clear way to remove them.

Any assistance on this would be helpful. Also, if I am not completely missing it, it may be a good option to release in the GUI for future users. Most blogs contain these sidebars which – however well they may work for a blog – will almost always make a forum which fits between them too narrow and cumbersome.

The bbpress forum on install had four columns, and my wordpress blog has a 900px width with sidebars on each side. This doesn’t leave much room for the forum to operate within, and it is basically “squished”. I would imagine other users would have similar issues.

As sidebar items such as search, categories, and archives usually are related more to the blog and not necessarily related to the forum at all, or necessary for the forum to operate (especially as the user can simply click “Home” on the menu and see the forum with all of it’s widgets and sidebars”), I would think there would be many cases where users would find keeping the widgets from the blog on the forum unnecessary and clunky.

An option to disable sidebars and widgets from the current wordpress theme would be a fantastic addition to bbpress.

Until that feature is implemented, how can one make the forum the full width as the OP request, disabling the WP widgets and sidebars?

Great job, though, it’s a very promising project.

[djoep]

Hey Andrew,

I took a look at bbPress Post Toolbar but it seemed to add bbcodes either by hand or by clicking a button. With “normal” wordpress, and inside the buddypress group forums, if you just enter the url as text, with no added adornment, it just shows up as embedded video. I believe the same is true for image urls but haven’t tested recently.

Also, I’m confused. On both the WPplugin directory as well as the master501 website, it shows the latest version as being back in August, not today???

Thanks,

joe

[Anointed]

@djoep

As it sounds like you know what you are doing, check this out, your gonna flip over this one.

https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/17144

Basically it means we can now use the full blown wp editor on the front end. I managed to get it setup in a few mins and for the most part it works perfectly.

I know this is going to hit bbPress as soon as WP3.3 is released, but nothing is stopping us from playing around before that.