[Robmcclel]

Team bbPress,

I have a multi-site install with BuddyPress (http://thirdscribe.com), and we use bbPress to power the BP forums. Recently, we’ve been seeing a very specific, and unusual, problem. Whenever a change is made to bbPress — update the plugin, change a setting, etc — the WordPress user roles in wp_options->wp_user_roles are erased. The bbPress roles (keymaster, participant, etc) are preserved, but the WP roles (admin, editor, contributor, etc) are completely gone.

Do you know what is causing this?

Thanks,
Rob

[desiamerican26]

@Stephen

Thanks for your reply. I will try to look for something through wordpress as per your suggestion 🙂

[Stephen Edgar]

Your first question you can easily do with a WordPress page and link to it and any other FAQ’s you may want to have on your site.

To extend your profiles you will need a plugin, search the plugin repo’s for either a plugin compatible with bbPress or check out BuddyPress our sister project that includes this functionality out of the box.

Twitter/Facebook sharing is also plugin territory

Your 3 sections, just make 3 forums or 3 categories each with a forum.

https://bbpress.org/plugins/ https://wordpress.org/plugins/

Other than that take a look at some of the sites people are linking to here or check out some of the example sites https://bbpress.org/about/examples/ and some of bbPress’ docs https://codex.bbpress.org/getting-started-with-bbpress/ https://codex.bbpress.org/

[Stephen Edgar]

It sounds like everything is working fine…

bbPress includes a redirect to the home screen after logging in whereas WordPress takes you typically to the WordPress dashboard.

The primary reason for this is because we don’t want your sites users being redirected to the WordPress Dashboard.

[gonzalotre2]

Hi,

I would like to integrate a forum in a wordpress page, and obviously I was thinking about bbpress, but I have major worries about themes moderation. Before installing, I have 4 specific questions regarding this:

May I include a button to denounce a commentary –bad language, publicity, whatsoever-? I think it is a key issue for developing a forum and the harmony between members.

May I include a profile of the user –company, linkedin profile, etc.- in the registration form?

I would like to have 3 sections, with different permissions in each of them –being able to post mainly-. Is it possible?

May I insert a twitter/facebook sharing button in each post?

If this is not possible do you know if I can do anything to solve these issues?

Thanks in advance

[Stephen Edgar]

I don’t know of any plugin that does this for bbPress, you could try searching for a WordPress plugin that does this for comments then contact the author to see if they could add support for bbPress.

https://wordpress.org/plugins/

[Robkk]

@marximusmg yeah i know you got this whole topics idea from high existence

im just saying if you find a wordpress theme that is compatible with bbpress either on the wordpress free theme repository or on like themeforest and it has a placeholder in the reply area tell me.

if you find it before me then update this topic with the name of the theme.

[desiamerican26]

Sure no problem @Robkk….it would be great help if you can and you can surely take your time. I did try that plugin you told me last time, not a big help and also I read on one of the forums before it used to work with WordPress & BBpress together, but not anymore. I just wonder why they did that.

Well, anyways thanks for you help and time towards this issue. Greatly appreciated 🙂

[Robkk]

i can tell you its not in form-reply.php , its most likey in a template.php file.

but hey if you can find a wordpress theme that has this , ILL try to find a way to get this functionality.

[omg123]

i asked that question because the theme i wanted to use, uses both bbpress & buddypress, and i also wanted to use both the softwares together (this is not a problem as it is done on other forum CMS’S)

wordpress is definitely compatible with the 2 softs

[omg123]

Thanks for your response,

but
“Each of those products would have to add support for bbPress though”

is this something skimlinks & viglinks would have to do ?
because i was curious as there was no mention on the net of anyone using both the CMS’S with both the software,
and yet thousands (if not more) sites use skimlinks or viglinks with wordpress.

skimlinks & viglinks were/are primarily targeted at forums – they say on there websites that the best clickthroughs + conversions are from forums
hence bbpress & buddypress is the same as the clickthough is coming from a recommendation (same as a forum) – so a high conversion rate.

the top 3 links are this thread

wordpress is definitely used and compatible with the 2 softwares

so i couldnt understand why no-one has used it with bbpress/buddpress when that is what they are intended for ?

[desiamerican26]

Hi Stephen,

But the posts that I am trying to share is from the forums that I have. I will still try to get in touch with the wordpress support as per your suggestion.

thank you

[defcon1186]

Let me know if theme’s authors reply to you… I hope to find a solution for that.

Anyhow I thank you for the support.

How can I avoid those kind of problem in future? I mean, should I look for specific themes builded with specific frameworks, or should I consider learning how to build a personal theme with wordpress?

I came from joomla and I’m very very new on WP solutions. Anyway I like WP ’cause it’s more lightweight (expecially backend module) and blog-like then a true CMS like Joomla.

Thank u again

[Stephen Edgar]

Try creating a new user and setting their bbPress role to “keymaster” and WordPress role to “Admin”, can this user access http://www.maldiveschina.com/wp-admin/edit.php?post_type=reply ?

[Hanlin1Q85]

Thanks Stephen, i tried it out but not work. In the meantime, i find another problem. In my WordPress Administration Screens navigate to Reply > all the reply, it should be a list of all reply, but actually this page doesn’t exist, it turn back 404 error. I don’t kown how to fix it. And i guess maybe there would be some connection between these two problem.

http://www.maldiveschina.com/wp-admin/edit.php?post_type=reply

[pfswss]

Jimi, yeah that is looking promising. I think you are a great asset for this project and you speak a lot of sense and know your stuff. I hope people listen to you and take your thoughts seriously and onboard.

I reverted my main forum back to phpbb unfortunately last night. it’s a bit of a mess right now as I also have no internet working properly and I still have files to upload. I wasted quite a few days on that but I have no one to blame but myself for not researching enough. I wanted to move forward but I went backwards. I like wordpress so I feel a bit disappointed with all this.

We only progress when we can listen and learn! Constructive criticism should be welcomed not shut out or taken personally. There is great potential here but a little lack of acceptance of what people really want.

thanks and all the best!

[Stephen Edgar]

Strange, try resetting your permalinks. In your WordPress Administration Screens navigate to Settings > Permalinks, select a different permalink structure and save. Then select your preferred permalink structure and save again.

[Stephen Edgar]

Cool, thanks for kicking this off 🙂

Lets start with the layout structure and a “Table of Contents”, I added these recently and these are a good place to start and closely match not just the BuddyPress Codex layout guides but also much of WordPress also (Links to these below).

Getting Started, Theme Development ,Plugin Development, Participate & Contribute and Developer Resources

The Codex is now fully setup with an ‘Automated Table of Contents’ sidebar, see this section on how to acheive this, also the “breadcrumb” will also ‘sync’ up with this table of contents structure.

For now ignore the ‘related posts’, these should also update based on the table of contents plus we are going to move the functions from their current location in the codex, I’ll detail those plans later.

Links to topics on the forums for each section/page of the codex is a great idea, we can do this fairly easily. 🙂

The ‘About’ page is part of the blog, the categories are the categories of the blog posts on the site and this is an automatically generated list, same with tags. Also many of the visible (and there are many not visible) of links from the ‘About’ page is from before we had the codex setup, thus much of the content throughout those links is either duplicated or redundant. A third set of duplicated content is our Trac home page https://bbpress.trac.wordpress.org that we need to redo and sync up with the same content (or at least links) to the correct content on the bbPress codex. A fourth location will be the actual source code of bbPress which primarily is on the plugin homepage https://wordpress.org/plugins/bbpress/. The fifth source would be basically identical to the fourth though is contained in a separate file and that will be for the plugin homepage on GitHub https://github.com/bbpress/bbpress.

BuddyPress has a Google Docs “Table of Contents” here and I have just forked and edited that spreadsheet for us here on bbPress. I have set the permissions so anyone with this link can edit the spreadsheet, with some luck it won’t be vandalised, if this happens we can change this setting to “edit only” for verified editors.

Before we change any of the existing URL’s for documents in the codex (e.g. Moving the FAQ into the “Getting Started” section) we will need to make some redirects behind the scenes so existing links will be forwarded to the new links.

A good place to start would be extracting the sections from the awesome guides Robin has already contributed to build up our “Table of Contents” and once we are happy with what we have for starters in the “Table of Contents” we can then start updating the actual codex pages.

A few references where we can reuse content and build up our table of contents can be found throughout existing WordPress and BuddyPress projects:

BuddyPress Codex

https://make.wordpress.org/core/handbook/
https://make.wordpress.org/support/handbook/
https://make.wordpress.org/docs/tag/handbooks/

Project Status

[Hanlin1Q85]

guys, i met a very wired problem. Everything is ok until this morning. My english is not good. BbPress forum page and category page shows 500 internal error. But all other pages including my home page, post page, and even the topic page, users’ profile page are working.

(working)Homepage http://www.maldiveschina.com/
(working)topic page http://www.maldiveschina.com/topic/被毁的中央格兰德岛假期

(500 error)forum page http://www.maldiveschina.com/forums
(500 error)forum category page http://www.maldiveschina.com/forum/after/complain

WordPress: 3.9.2
bbPress Plugin: 2.5.4-5380
theme: SmartMag 1.5.1
Apache 2.2.25
Php 5.2.17

[Wed Aug 13 01:56:54 2014] [error] [client 91.207.4.58] Premature end of script headers: index.php, referer: http://www.maldiveschina.com/forums
[Wed Aug 13 01:56:55 2014] [error] [client 91.207.4.58] Premature end of script headers: index.php, referer: http://www.maldiveschina.com/forums
[Wed Aug 13 01:56:57 2014] [error] [client 91.207.4.58] Premature end of script headers: index.php, referer: http://www.maldiveschina.com/forums
[Wed Aug 13 01:56:58 2014] [error] [client 91.207.4.58] Premature end of script headers: index.php, referer: http://www.maldiveschina.com/forums

[Wed Aug 13 10:10:41 2014] [error] [client 202.111.50.76] Premature end of script headers: index.php, referer: http://www.maldiveschina.com/wp-admin/edit.php?post_type=forum
[Wed Aug 13 10:10:42 2014] [error] [client 202.111.50.76] Premature end of script headers: index.php, referer: http://www.maldiveschina.com/wp-admin/edit.php?post_type=forum

I have reinstalled the bbpress plugin, but the problem is still there.

pl give me some suggestion, thank you so much!

[Stephen Edgar]

This appears to have nothing to do with bbPress, please post on the plugins support forum you are trying to resolve an issue with or post on the general WordPress support forums.

Support Forums

[Stephen Edgar]

Firstlt, you can change a users role via the WordPress User screen, just scroll down towards the bottom of the page or you can change them in ‘bulk’ via the standard WordPress Users panel.

As to why your users can’t edit their own posts is most likely a conflict with either a plugin or your theme, try switching to the Twenty Fourteen theme and see if it works, if not start deactivating your plugins one by one until a user with the participant role can edit their own topic/reply and you’ll have found the plugin causing the conflict.

[Venutius]

I’ve just discovered my bbpress Participants are unable to edit their own posts.

Anyone any ideas as to why?

Also, I can’t for the life of me find where I change a bbpress users role to change them to a mod etc. It’s not an option in the wordpress edit user profile section. Could someone be kind enough to point me in the right direction?

[Jimi Wikman]

@robkk no one want a bloated software.

It’s important to separate function from form in these discussions. A function like forum grouping with drag and drop has no impact on loading time in the front end yet it is a very powerful function that make it possible to expand BBP to a forum without having to sacrifice the Bulletin board feeling. If you want things just the way things are you just place all forums in one category.

Same thing with moderation or usergroups. It does not impact anything in the frontend, yet it will make a world of difference for managing the forum. If you don’t want to use it you just ignore it. No bloating, but a world of difference.

Then when we come to form we should put things like group icons and topic ratings as plugins. these are hardly used by all and as such they should be optional for those that want/need them.

I however see an issue with plugins the way both WordPress and BBPress plugins are setup a lot now and that is that each plugin have their own set of CSS and JS. If I add 20+ plugins that usually mean that I will have 20+ CSS and JS files clogging up the browser stack. the total sum of the files are usually very small, but the sheer number will slow the site down considerably.

If you have worked with WordPress installations with a lot of plugins you know that it’s a serious pain in the butt to try to get minification and combining JS/CSS to work properly. It’s either that the order of things are wrong or the minification mess something up in one or more files and you get stuck spending hours trying to find what is causing the mess. And even chained and minified the number of items in the browser stack still cause delays in the DOM rendering.

This is why I think as much as possible should be added into as few plugins as possible and that is why I think that Buddypress and BBPress should merge and some basic functionality should be included in the core. I know that this is not what the bulletin board users may want to hear, but if BBPress are to reach a wider audience and become a forum plugin that will appeal the great userbase of WordPress, then I say this is something that need to be done.

With around 70 million installations of WordPress we can assume that 1% at least have need of a good forum. Thats 700.000 BBPress installations that should be out there right now and I am not sure if that is the case or not? In my opinion BBPress should have at least 2.5 million installations by now as I know that the demand for forums are very high and people are searching high and low for any forum that will merge with WordPress.

I know that alot of people here want a watered down and minimalistic bulletin board and I would say you are in majority since that is what BBPress is today. However I have a feeling that sooner or later someone will realize that the majority of users out there don’t want that and they will fork BBPress and go towards a more forum oriented software. When that happens I fear that that fork will boom in a major way and that will eventually reduce BBPress as developers will go where the userbase is and there is just so much you can optimize (of course you can ALWAYS optimize and refactor things, but it might now be very fun or productive for the users) in a minimalistic bulletin board.

I think that BBPress is at a good place right now and before the end of the year with forum grouping in place and perhaps a little better organization of this website we should see more users starting to enjoy BBPress and not just bulletin board lovers 😉

[RChadwick]

I’ve been looking for a forum for my WordPress site, and everyone keeps pointing me back to bbPress. Problem is, I absolutely hate the way it looks. Mentally, I find it confusing to find and read messages. Is there a supported plugin that will make bbPress look like more traditional forums?

[Robkk]

only thing i can do now is i guess suggest something else ,

https://wordpress.org/plugins/bbpress-post-toolbar/

it has font style, and font color .

but it hasnt been updated in years and adds 2-4 seconds extra loading time to your site.

it would be a great plugin still if it was updated or forked on github.