[kevinjohngallagher]

Morning lads and lasses,

I can’t replicate this problem with an existing/live website, but i may have some suggestions. From the time of the 0.9 to diffrent versions of WP (and SuperAnn and _ck_’s plugins), i’ve found i end up putting in a huge amount of data into my bb-config.php file, and then force everyone to login via wordpress (that way i know i’ve only got 1 point of failure).

If you can’t access the bb-admin admin area when being logged via wordpress try making sure these values are in your bb-config.php file.

define(‘BB_SECRET_KEY’, ‘bb_secret_key’); // Change this to a unique phrase.

define(‘AUTH_KEY’, ‘auth_key’);

define(‘LOGGED_IN_KEY’, ‘loggedinkey’);

define(‘BB_AUTH_KEY’, ‘authkey’);

define(‘BB_SECURE_AUTH_KEY’, ‘secureauthkey’);

define(‘BB_SECURE_AUTH_SALT’, ‘secureauthsalt’);

define(‘BB_LOGGED_IN_KEY’, ‘loggedinkey’);

define(‘BB_SECRET_KEY’, ‘secretkey’);

define(‘BB_SECRET_SALT’, ‘secretsalt’);

define(‘BB_LOGGED_IN_SALT’, ‘loggedinsalt’);

$bb->wp_siteurl = ‘http://www.**********.com/’;

$bb->wp_home = ‘http://www.**********.com/’;

$bb->wp_table_prefix = ‘wordpress_’;

$bb->user_bbdb_name = ‘**********’;

$bb->user_bbdb_user = ‘**********’;

$bb->user_bbdb_password = ‘**********’;

$bb->user_bbdb_host = ‘localhost’;

$bb->custom_user_table = ”;

$bb->custom_user_meta_table = ”;

$bb->authcookie = ‘wordpress_’;

$bb->cookiedomain = ”;

$bb->cookiepath = ‘/’;

$bb->sitecookiepath = ”;

$bb->wp_table_prefix = ‘wordpress_’;

$bb->WP_BB = true;

/* Stop editing */

I know this may sound daft, and i can’t pin point the technical reason for it, but with the combination of WP moving to a different security routine in WP2.7/2.8 and bbPress moving to BackPress i find that having that extra data in and predefined has solved 99% of my login issues.

I think, and those of you more technical than i am may debunk the idea, that bbPress does a “double dip” where it tests you as having a cookie on the front end and that the name is associated with a key master or admin, but then on the backend it actually checks your admin credentials against the WP database and cookie has and thats what fails (who do we thank for backPress??).

Sadly bbPress admin area (or any admin function) doesn’t give error messages, so the exact issue we won’t know unless you can run a profiler.

Give my additional code a try, and we’ll see if that makes a difference.

Kev

[r-a-y]

I’m going to try to answer the OP’s questions.

What is the advantage, of any, of having BBPress either instead of or in addition to BuddyPress?

Advantages of using bbPress – using bbPress plugins, forum categories and sub categories. If you want the traditional forum, go with bbPress.

BuddyPress’ internal bbPress relies on a concept called “groups” (similar to Facebook). You need to create a “group” in order to create a group forum. BP’s internal version of bbPress also uses a flat structure, you cannot categorize group forums into categories (as of now). Also, out of the box, you’ll need to port bbPress plugins to WP/BP in order to use them. Not many bbPress plugins have been ported to BP as of yet.

Advantages of using BuddyPress – template matches the rest of your site. Social networking in a box for WP (if you need it). Check out http://testbp.org/forums to view the forum layout.

Will (bbPress) now work with a straight WordPress install, or is it tied to WordPress MU at this point?

Works in both instances. bbPress integration plugin handles this fine.

(With the upcoming integration of WP and WPMU, at this juncture I simply don’t want to go through the hassle of installing MU.)

BuddyPress 1.2 is now supported by regular WP, so no need to install WPMU if you don’t need it.

[LizFilardi]

hey, can i use the same wordpress API key for my wordpress and bbpress integrated sites?

[gerikg]

KICKERMAN360 were you able to find a solution to your problem?

[Dailytalker]

I use both….

wordpress with bbpress

http://www.dailytalk.ch/forum

Advantage: Forum is category based….see drop down menu structure.

Disadvantage: No facebook-connect login….thats a clear disadvantage also integration with wordpress is difficult

wordpress mu or wordpress with buddypress 1.2.1 and bbpress

http://www.dailytalk.com

Advantage: Integration is very easy, you can have groups, group blogs and group forum topics, facebook-connect is available…bp-fbconnect plugin

Disadvantage: Forum is only group based no categories available.

[chrishajer]

http://www.wpquestions.com/ is for paid WordPress support. Maybe you will find some bbPress help there as well. Paying there though doesn’t benefit the bbPress project monetarily.

http://wphelpcenter.com/ is for paid WordPress support as well.

Both those projects are independent of WordPress, Automattic and bbPress. WP Help Center is manned by employees of Crowd Favorite (Alex King), WP Questions has people visit the question and offer solutions after you’ve set your price. Two totally different approaches.

Not sure if there is a more concerted effort for paid bbPress support or not.

[LizFilardi]

This all works fine for me. However, I don’t get any emails from bbpress or wordpress, including new user passwords, password resets, comments, etc. I’ve checked out past forum posts about that topic, and the latest I could find was a year ago, including a topic in which Sam Bauer says that the problem has been solved by adding a solution to the core package in the latest version of bbpress. any reason why integration would interfere with emailing? (i didn’t test email anything pre-integration).

[chengdu-living]

I’m not an expert, but from what I’ve gathered, you’ll need to copy or duplicate some parts of your WordPress design into a bbPress theme. So they will look the same and there won’t be a noticeable transition between the two. Unfortunately there isn’t an automatic way to do this, each theme works differently. If you’re using a popular theme with a large community around it, you might be able to find someone who’s already made those changes and can share them with you. Good luck

[kieranyo]

forum.cubeownersclub.co.uk/

After getting progressively more annoyed at the amount of spam on our previous forum that ran on PhpBB and also finding out how frustrating it was to customise the look of it I decided to give bbpress a go.

I’ve already built a few WordPress powered website so was already impressed by how it was built and how easy and intuitive it is to customise and extend so bbpress seemed like a perfect direction to take the new forum.

It was very important that we kept all of the content and user base from the old PhpBB forum so I was delighted when I found a script on here to convert the PhpBB database into the new bbpress forum. The script wasn’t perfect though so after a bit of tweaking over 2 evenings I finally got it into a good state. There are still a few issues with broken links, images and smilies but slowly it’s being edited.

I’ve installed quite a few plugins and have customised the look with a custom theme.

Overall really impressed with bbpress and am even about to suggest it to a client. I hope it gains more traction as it’s a great platform compared to the other alternatives out there.

[MrMister]

Hi everybody,

I just installed bbPress including the whole integration process for sharing account information between WP and bbPress and everything works perfect so far. Now I am wondering: Is it possible to display the bbPress forum within my wordpress installation, like in the same place my pages and articles would usually load. Or does it have to load in a seperate window? Couldn’t find an answer to that in the Doc, hope you could provide me with an answer.

Greetings and keep up the great work,

MrMister

[kevinjohngallagher]

Ah GeoCities, how i miss all those animated GIFs

Well mate, if you’re up for the challenge I’d start at something like http://www.w3schools.com/ (HTML, then CSS, then PHP sections). 9/10 it’s learning by doing and asking when stuck.

Also, I’d strongly suggest installing and playing around with WordPress before bbPress. It’s not a requirement at all, but they’ve nailed the separation of Presentation, Data, Logic so it’s easier to know where to edit – while in bbPress it’s all still bundled in together most of the time – making it hard to know where to edit if you’re new.

Effort will get you very far with bbPress though, it just needs to “click”. Don’t be a stranger

Kev

[kevinjohngallagher]

Hi Jtrory,

Sadly, that specific example is exactly the same way of doing it as WordPress, so it isn’t going to change anytime soon. Not that you’re wrong though mate, and glad you got it worked out

[ven_ka]

‘ll Show! It is a bunch of WP 2.8.6. and bbpress fresh (integrated over), the WP provides users upload photos avatar plugin “user photo”, how to display this photo in a forum?

Подскажите! Стоит связка WP 2.8.6. и bbpress свежий (проинтегрированно), на WP предусмотрена загрузка фото пользователей для аватара плагином “user photo”, КАК ВЫВЕСТИ ЭТО ФОТО на форуме??

[kevinjohngallagher]

john13uk,

What Terms and Conditions is this “person” breaking?

The GPL does not mean free, you can easily and leagally sell code that is compatible with a GPL licence. If you don’t like this, just ignore it, no-one is forcing you buy it. As annoyed as you may be, the person you contacted (he didn’t contact you) at no time said he would pass it on for free.

As much as SoftInfo is being a bit of a wanker, and he is, it’s not worth the hassle.

If you have the ability to do the “customisation and other stuff”, making this basic (and pretty awful looking theme) shouldn’t really be an issue. You have the theme folder and pages already.

SoftInfo:

At no point does ChrisHajer suggest he’s accepting money for theme’s someone else created. Please be careful when making accusations against others, especially well respected people.

selling [GPL themes] are the are against wordpress policy?

Yes. Premium themes, such as the ones you link to, sell services that come with the themes (usually minimum support contracts). We’ve been over this road countless times.

If you don’t sorry to me then I’ll leave bbpress

Oh no!!

Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out

[Pomy]

@ john13uk .. Dear I’m not breaking the rules… I’m asking if you are interest then I can make it for you as its clone.. and If its against the bbpress rules ..then why you are asking about this bborg theme.. why you do not make your own theme?

why you want to use bborg theme while its bbpress.org property? why ? Premium themes and services is not a big deal or new thing in market.. even you can buy wordpress premium theme and its services from various resources over the internet… are they people breaking the rules?.. are the are against wordpress policy?..

Open your eyes and see the links

http://www.google.com.pk/search?rlz=1C1GGLS_enPK351PK351&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=wordpress+services

http://www.google.com.pk/search?hl=en&rlz=1C1GGLS_enPK351PK351&q=bbpress+services&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=&oq=

even chrishajer who is the moderator of bbpress.. also selling his services off list..for confirmation you can visit this link

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/will-pay-to-get-our-forum-fixed

and i can also tell me many more people who are selling his services off list .. who are the member of bbpress.org/forums

Note: The _ck_ have left the bbpress after depression who creates people like you.. who wants everything free free free free huh…and who don’t want to promote coders duh..

I think its enough .. or I should write more?

so be polite and be extra careful to write any bad comment against any programmer… If you don’t sorry to me then I’ll leave bbpress

I think you’ll understand .. and you’ll say sorry to me

Thanks alot

[kevinjohngallagher]

Morning matey,

The issue quiktipz is having is that a wordpress plugin is causing a fatal error. Deleting this plugin will effectively ignore that error but will create another one with in wordpress. And it’s not solving the issue at hand

For new users, quick fixes like this usually end up in hours of following the rabbit down the hole and not solving the original issue.

[Dailytalker]

@af3, I just installed on a website wordpress mu 2.9.2 and buddypress 1.2 with bbpress. Unfortunately there are some problems with the bp-fbconnect plugin. For example I can login with FB-Connect but I cannot log out.

I also tried wordpress with buddypress, bb-press and the FB-Connect plugin – that worked. Strange…

Further problem:

buddypress-bbpress forums are group based. With a bbpress standalone you can have category-based topics…I prefer category based topics. It is easier to keep the overview.

[kevinjohngallagher]

WordPress has a tendancy to throw a it’s toys out of the pram if it has an activated plugin that isn’t there.

BuddyPress is quite an intricate setup, and randomly deleting stuff won’t really solve the issues. Given that this wasn’t tested on anything but a live site, deleting things from a live production site when you don’t know whats going on is not a great idea

That’s not to say it couldn’t work though

[kevinjohngallagher]

Hi Quicktipz,

I’d strongly suggest asking htis over at the buddyPress forums as they’ll have more chance of knowing the answer. Don’t delete the plugin yet (not as a first step anyway). Log into WordPress and de-activate it first.

If you’re trying to install bbPress or BuddyPress with your wordpress install?

( in know it gets confusing)

[chrishajer]

Looks like that’s a WordPress plugin for BuddyPress? Not much to do with bbPress unless I’m missing something in that message. I would ask at the BuddyPress forums or for support from that plugin author.

[citizenkeith]

Askimet is optimized for WordPress blogs.

I disabled Askimet, and instead I use a variety of other plugins to control spam. Human Test for bbPress, Project Honeypot, New User Notification… they all do the job better than anything else at the moment.

[kevinjohngallagher]

The realism is, bbPress is not currently aimed at folks that are not technically minded. That’s not said to put you or anyne else down, it’s just the reality of where we are.

If you like the look of this software, or if you chose it for a particualr reason, then i’d spend some time searching the forums and seeing if any questions you have have already been asked; because documentation is non-existanct.

In terms of your Akismet problem:

• Go to your admin area
• click on the “plugins” link
• click on “activate” link under akismet
• now the step that they tell people about for wordpress but not bbpress
• click on the “settings” menu on the left hand side
• the bottom sub menu will say Akismet, click it.
• input your key
• click save
• spent time taking actual posts from users out of spam que because akismet is not optomized for forums

Take care…

[Marius-]

I seriously need this to work now.

Is there some other plugin like this?

Im surprised this is not one of the default tool in WordPress, to limit posts counts for each user, as well as post messages.

[jonto]

To anyone who is having issues with avatars. Check out the ‘Bavatars’ plugin. It’s much more user friendly and it ‘just works’ in the same way that many WP plugins do. Upload and hit activate. A dream.

@kevinjohngallagher I say all of this respectfully, but realize that I have a different background and come from a different place.

You “hear this from time to time” because it’s a recurring problem. Maybe not for some, and certainly not for you, but it is for many given the comments that I’ve seen go unanswered on the forums. I don’t know what ‘free’ has to do with this conversation. There are many ‘free’ software projects that are way more friendly than the existing ‘situation’ with BBPress. WordPress itself is more user friendly.

“90% of the requests people make”…? The different between ‘basic’ and ‘standard’ is semantic at this point and doesn’t move the conversation forward. It’s a status quo argument that I run into on a daily basis in my profession. I don’t accept it there, nor do I accept it here. @Chrishajer is exactly right. If’ we’re going to discuss this from percentage perspective. My point is that avatars should be in the 10% of the included feature set. I’m not asking for anything special here. Just the ability to place a tiny image next to my name when I post. It’s 2010.

[coatikid9]

I integrated WordPress and bbPress and I got to the final stage of changing the settings in bbpress and tried to log back in and got the “user does not exist” error message. Now I can’t log in at all. Does this have something to do with matching the roles in the User Map? Quite a problem as I can’t log in to check anything.