[chrishajer]

I agree that the “relax” statement wasn’t comforting. It didn’t change anything for me either way. Sometimes Matt has a calming effect on the conversation:

http://onefinejay.com/2010/01/10/shackling-a-free-market-wordpress-canonical-plugins#comment-7566

sometimes not (here.) It’s not a big enough worry for me to be concerned yet. I still think it will turn out fine.

[kevinjohngallagher]

Hello folks,

I appreciate you all taking the time to comment.

@chrishajer

Thanks very much for posting the links to where the IRC logs are kept. That is very useful information indeed. Its the sort of thing that should be on this website somewhere Respectfully, far too much information about BBpress is hidden in replies on threads, that once off the front page are relegated to history.

You’re also right about the 3 most common phrases/tags/topics on this site being independent (i.e. not “a wordpress integration plug-in” but rather plug-in being separate). But with BBpress not delivering on the wordpress integration part, and having changed so much under the hood in 1.0 that the plug-ins don’t work; surely we’re failing on the very key topics the community are worried about.

I wouldn’t waste any time developing plug ins for a platform that I know is going to change in the near future, possibly breaking my plug-ins again

-chrishajer

Which is where we find ourselves now. BBpress1.1 isn’t going to change any of this. its a “holding pattern” release. Matt’s already stated that BBpress is going to be a WP plug-in ( so integration’s not going to be looked at for 1.1) and that none of the big issues stopping plug-ins from working are going to be looked at in depth. So other than “rallying the troops” so to speak, what is BBpress1.1 going to give us? ANd what are we rallying the troops for – as you yourslf said, you/me/others aren’t going to build plugins for the moving target?

I suppose it reminds me a little bit of this:

http://www.dilbert.com/fast/2003-10-12/

You have a product that’s meant to do one thing, you rally support for the next version, present it to the masses and right before you do you tell them how awesome later versions that will make their code redundant will be. “Hey there developer, come make plug-ins and code for BBpress, yes sir code that will be pretty much gazumped when we integrate it to WP as they already have code that does this stuf… what do you mean you’ll wait for the working release? “

@Ryan Heller

I’d rather be developing plug-ins for BBpress, but as pointed out above, there’s not much point developing plug-ins for a moving target.

– Ryan Heller

Is BBpress1.1 going to change that?

@ipstenu

This made me smile a lot mate, thanks.

I’m an independent contractor and have worked as a PM/BA for the smallest to the largest companies; and you’re not wrong

That said, Project Management exists for a reason. Its a different skillset from development. And no matter the size of the company or organisation, holding a requirement gathering session and then ignoring the data is just daft.

@chrishajer

You’re spot on that we’re in no position to judge anyone. Matt, and automattic, have done some truly incredible software – I’d hate for my posts to be seen as criticising or judging for the sake of it. But I also feel that its ok for us to point things out from a different perspective. We all know what its like to be tied into software, even cool software like this.

We want to help, we want to make it better, we want to do that in a positive way; but I don’t know about you and don’t want to speak for anyone else – but the last 9months/year as a BBpress user/enthusiast has been really… difficult.

In that respect “We’ve done this before” isn’t a comforting statement.

This is free software, I’m trying to give back in the only way I can My plug-ins no longer work, the group of folks I used to make plug-ins and themes with have all abandoned the project. One of my sites is sitting with about 1000 comments a day/post and a forum that’s taking 200 posts a day (way more on match days – especially if my team lose). I’m tied in, and many others are too.

I’m not wanting to have strong words at Matt the person or Matt the head of automattic, heck the dude’s lovely and I can’t thank him enough. But “we’ve done this before”, while a throw away line and not a mission statement, isn’t that helpful right now. I appreciate Matt posting on the thread greatly, especially as he’d only posted 4 times in 2 years previous to Sam’s leaving (and probably for a good reason, that’s not a dig) – so I’m not going to hang the phrase around his neck forever. Its just that, from a PM point of view, which I know everyone hates, “We’ve done this before. Relax.” is a statement that strikes fear into my heart. Seriously, Kryptonite fear!

P.S. The captain of the Titanic had actually been on a ship before too

P.P.S Can’t believe I check in here on a Sunday! Have a great weekend all, and once again, thank you for reading

[subject101]

BBPress appears as WP plugin on the repository right now;

http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/bbpress/

What’s the schedule? will current themes be compatible with the plugin?

With BBPress as plugin WP is becoming the best CMS out there!

Developers, please don’t forget;

* fix slugs, “topic” and “forum” thing

* move all functions.bb-template.php template stuff to the template folder

[jaqdesign]

I apologise in advance if I come across as a newb – in a lot of ways, I am!!

This morning I tried to install (and integrate) BBpress at http://www.serenespirit.com.au, which is running WordPress 2.9. The WordPress side of things was working perfectly until this, so I am lead to believe that BBPress is the most obvious culprit of my problems now, but I have also posted an urgent HELP to the good people on the WordPress forum.

Anyway, long story fairly short, I went through the BBPress install / integration following the instructions at http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/wp-integration-coockie-does-not-work#post-61969. I got to the end of it, tried it out, and it didn’t work. I figured I have missed something, so instead of going back over it step by step I deleted BBPress from the server, updated the cookies on WP using the wp.config file, and reset the cache in my browser.

Here’s where the panic sets in – suddenly, I couldn’t view any of the PUBLIC pages and posts in wordpress (including the home page!) unless I was logged in, either as Admin or another user. EVERY page and post results in a 404. To add insult to injury, I now can not delete or change the status of ANY post or page (I.e from public – private), although I can edit the content.

I have been through the WP forums with a fine comb, tried deleting the WP .htaccess file, resetting permalinks to Default, deactivated all my plugins and reset the AUTH keys in wpconfig a half dozen times, nothing is working.

The only thing I can think of is that something very screwy is going on with the DB, but not knowing enough about it I am really hesitant to start playing with it any more. I understand this really needs to be fixed within WP, but I thought since this only started after my attempt to install BB SOMEONE here might have an idea of even something else I could TRY. I am at a loss, and this is a client’s live website!!

PLEASE HELP!!

[Michael]

1.0.2 only allows you to activate/de-activate the plugin. I’m sure future versions will have an auto installer — just like WordPress.

[gerikg]

The website where you “purchased” the template has the location where you can find the answer at the bottom.

http://www.pagelines.com/themes/iblogpro-forum/

which points to:

https://bbpress.org/documentation/integration-with-wordpress/#func

(the instructions are in the last paragraph)

[LeftCoastMichael]

Hi. I followed the instructions to ‘deep integrate’ but it’s not working. The instructions say “All you need to do is specify the location of that database on installation or afterwards in the ‘WordPress Integration’ section of the “Settings” area in your bbPress admin.”

I did that, but when I then go to the forum url, I get this error message:

“Deep Integration With WordPress Required

It appears your WordPress installation isn’t deeply integrated which is required for iBlogPro Forum to work correctly (it needs access to WP functions).

“Please see Deep Integration With WordPress”

Help!

[LeftCoastMichael]

Hi. I tried this and got the following error message:

Deep Integration With WordPress Required

It appears your WordPress installation isn’t deeply integrated which is required for iBlogPro Forum to work correctly (it needs access to WP functions).

Please see Deep Integration With WordPress

[Lucian Florian]

Hello,

I have a client who want to make changes to the main text from front page. The text is located in front-page.php and is easy for somebody to do manually edit, however that function would be great.

In WordPress I would create a custom field and call it there but not sure how it works in BBpress. Will work via a custom plugin or the function.php?

Thanks in advance for your help here!

[london-muscle]

right guys fixed the url problem so forum is back up. now have access to the control panel and have myphpadmin installed in wordpress so can edit all the other bits.

Anyone able to help regarding the add topic links etc??

[Casemon]

This is a new installation, so am just seeing it. Didn’t notice it during development, and really have no idea how to track it down.

Integration steps taken:

– bb-config.php has COOKIEPATH, BB_AUTH_KEY, BB_SECURE_AUTH_KEY, BB_LOGGED_IN_KEY, BB_NONCE_KEY (all keys match values in wp-config.php) & require_once($_SERVER . ‘/’ . ‘wp-blog-header.php’);

– WordPress-bbPress syncronization plugin v0.8.0 installed & active in both WP & bbP.

– bbP has a few other plugins but nothing I would think would affect any of the above issues (allow images, auto add favs, bbcode buttons, bbcode lite, new post notification).

Thought I followed all the integration steps to the letter, but I guess something is amiss. Seen anything like this before?

[chrisbrocklesby]

Hi All,

I am working on a WordPress / bbPress powered site, all has been great until I noticed that the option to Delete and Add a New Plugin had gone…. is this a known problem ?…. any help guys would be great.

Many Thanks,

Chris

[kevinjohngallagher]

We’ve done this before. Relax.

Greatly appreciate you posting Matt, thanks.

With absolute respect though, we know Automattic’s done this before:

• we were here for BBpress 0.9 not integrating to 2 new versions of WordPress and not getting an update when WP did.
• we were here for Sam not posting an update/techy questions answered etc for almost 3 months weeks after 0.9’s release
• we were here for major announcements being slapping into page 3 of non-stickied threads – now apparently they’re half way down IRC logs no-one posts.
• we were here with the BBpress1.0alphas (who remember that fun and games)
• we were here with the awful BBpress1.0 rollout
• we were here with the awful BBpress1.0 testing/bug-fixing (“we have decided to scrap Beta testing and bug fixing and will move to RC1 next week”)
• we were here when the sole developer left
• we’ve had 1 upgrade to BBpress to coincide with 5 updates of WordPress

Thats not me being angry or upset or anything, its just that since the move to BBpress1.0 and the removal of the documentation site to be a porn site, all i can do is ask PM/BAquestions. I know we’re not the most loved bunch by developers (or anyone?? ;-]) but we have a skillset thats sometimes often overlooked by developers.

The developer, BBshowcase.com and BBprogress.org (2 main plugin developers/resources) have left the sinking ship. Heck the ship couldn’t do what it actually said for the last 18 months. With silence from Automattic for months all people could hear was the sound of the band who played us out. It’s great that you’re coming with liferafts and a new engine and any other nautical anaology (really shouldn’t have started this ;-] ), but when you get here and start making the same mistakes I don’t think its wrong for us to at least point them out.

Its great you’re here Matt, its great all the people putitng time and development into it are here (thank you all), and heck even if you don’t take BBpress in a way I personally want, thats cool. I’m not here for a personal agenda of the features i personally want. It just that this project screams out for a PM and instead its got a truly lovely lead developer that everyone likes so much they’re too scared/in-awe to say “Dude, please, take a step back a sec, this is mental”.

We’ve done this before. Relax.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it

– George Santayana

[chrishajer]

You might have more success asking at the wordpress.org or wordpress.com support forums, depending on how you’re hosted.

https://wordpress.org/support/

http://en.support.wordpress.com/

[chrishajer]

Sounds like you need some local help to get you through these issues.

Or, can you go back to an installation without integration, without requiring that WordPress file?

[Almaseecp]

Can anyone tell here what is best wordpress stat plugin

[mpih]

Hi guys

If I install and use Simple LDAP plugin for WordPress, and also install bbPress, is bbPress also automatically synchronized with the LDAP/users, og do I need to have a seperate LDAP plugin for bbPress?

Thanks for any answers in advance

[cybersnac]

This worked very well. Thanks much for the pointer!

[Ryan Hellyer]

I was a bit baffled by this too, but when I brought it up in the IRC chat, most seemed to think it was a better idea to slowly integrate bbPress into WordPress. I thought that would be far more difficult than starting from scratch, but there were a few people in the chat who know far more than I about such things who thought that was an easier approach, so I’m willing to take their word for it.

Since it looks like the move to WordPress isn’t coming any time soon, I’m working on ways to make it easier to integrate WordPress themes into bbPress 0.9 and 1.0 (and any newer versions) without taking a performance hit like you do with deep integration. I’d rather be developing plugins for bbPress, but as pointed out above, there’s not much point developing plugins for a moving target.

[chrishajer]

I think these are the best instructions thus far for integration:

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/wp-integration-coockie-does-not-work#post-61969

There’s nothing specific to 2.9.1 that would make the integration any different from 2.9 or 2.8.6, 2.8.5, etc. There was a change around 2.5 and again around 2.7 (I think) that caused all sorts of problems, but that’s resolved now and since then the 1.0.x version of bbPress should integrate with the latest WordPress.

[chrishajer]

I registered. The forum registration was forced through WordPress. I logged in at WordPress. I appear logged in at the forum. When I try page two, I got the login box from WordPress as you experienced.

When I tried I tried loggin in at bb-login.php with the password that was mailed out by WordPress, it said “incorrect password.”

So, I’d say it has something to do with the integration.

Has it ever worked before and this is new, or since installation it’s always been like this?

[london-muscle]

Guys been having some real problems from day one with this one.

Installed bbpress and a theme, integrated it into my wordpress blog.

all of that had its problems but i got around them and got it to work.

after everything I ended up getting tonnes of 404 errors everything is pointing to the wrong place and wondered how to fix it, first thing was that the forum link was pointing to the root folder but not a php file so It wasnt displaying anything. changed that to the index.php file and it was fine.

however once I got there I noticed the link to the admin cms didnt work because it pointed to the admin file …../bb-admin/ but not ……/bb-admin/index.php (this ending works)

What i did stupidly was in the cms changed the section that says bb press forum url. I changed it to …../blog/forum/index.php

Now that ive done this I can only access it in firefox and I cant change it back It just displays in plain text format aligned to the left of the screen and I no longer have a field to enter the old url.

Can anyone help on both issues, how to get it back to normal and how to fix my page not found errors.

thanks

[nerieru]

Ok here’s the list:

Working:

Admin add user

Admin can post anything

After the dealine

Ajaxed Quote

Allow Images

Approve user registration

Auto add favorites

Bavatars

bb-benchmark

bb-lightbox2

bbcode buttons toolbar

bbcode lite

bbpm

bbpress mobile edition

bbpress moderation suite

bbpress polls

bbpress private messaging

bbpress recent replies

bbpress signatures

bbRatings

bbSocialize

bb Topic Views

bbVideo

Best Answer

check for updates

fix admin access

forum restriction

hidden forums

hot topic

ignore member

indicate new posts

report post

quote

reputation (karma) for bbpress

show top posters

simple onlinelist

subscribe to topic

super search

support forum

topic icons

use display name – if you’re using wp, edit the file, change BB_Users to wp_users

user timezones

wordpress latest post

Not working:

bb anonymous posting

Graphic user rank

wiki post (this resulted in my admin section turning into a complete whitepage, if this happens to you go to your mysql database and go to bb_meta and then bb_option active_plugins and remove the text just before wiki and till

Also please note that I’m working on a theme and getting everything integrated in there.

[cybersnac]

I’m using WordPress 2.9.1 and the cookie integration doesn’t seem to be working. I did get the warning that the bbpress integration plug-in had not been tested with my version of WordPress.

Can anyone confirm that this is in fact not working? I believe my settings are correct. If it is confirmed, does anyone have any word on when it will work with 2.9.1?

Thanks very much!

[arpowers]

ok, will look into it.. we have much better development practices now which will allow us to do more with our resources.

not sure how much work it will be to add BuddyPress support (we get a lot of WordPress Mu requests too)