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I’ve been giving some thought to bbPress as a Q/A platform (also relates to the P2 discussion) and one problem came to mind: You can’t always tell from the beginning of a query whether you’re best served with an open-ended discussion or a ‘best-in-the-bunch’ answer placed on top, StackOverflow style. Sometimes a definitive answer will emerge, while other times a linear discussion read from top to bottom constitutes the complete answer.
I think by default you should always get the linear discussion, but it’d be great if there was a button that said “Show best answers first”. One way to solve this could be if threads allowed reordering posts based on certain parameters, in this case ‘descending order’ (post id) versus ‘best answers first’ (number of votes).
For example:
Post 1 (question)
Post 2
Post 3
Post 4
versus
Post 1 (question)
Post 3 (5 votes)
Post 4 (2 votes)
Post 2* (0 votes, *might be hidden)
Can bbPress 2.0 do this?
Hi,
I have the plugin version of bbPress for my WordPress site, and would now like certain forum members to be able to both create and vote on polls within bbPress topics.
So I found the bbPress-Polls plugin, but the installation instructions for it mention a ‘my-plugins’ directory in bbPress file structure. Well, this directory might exist for the bbPress standalone, but I cannot find it in the bbPress Plugin file structure.
Is there a way for the bbPress Plugin to have bbPress-Polls or any other polling/voting that attaches directly to topics (not widgets!)?
I suppose I also have a wider question here too – do all plugin that were developed for the standalone version if bbPress also work for the bbPress-Plugin? If so, is it just a matter of creating a directory or just using a different directory? Is there anything profoundly different to the bbPress plugin?
Hi,
Does anyone know of a plugin for bbpress that allows Reddit-type upvotes and downvotes?
This may be beyond the functionality of bbpress, so if someone has a recommendation for another forum template that would be great too.
Thanks!
Eric
Thanks to JJJ for pointing this topic out to me.
Right now, my forum plugin isn’t planned for public release. I’d much rather see a community-supported plugin because a lot more can get done. The plugin could simply be better developed and have better support if it’s a community-run project. Make no mistake, a plugin like this is massive amounts of work, more than one person can realistically handle. Honestly, I don’t want to be the only person developing and supporting a forum plugin.
The reasons I’ve been doing my own thing rather than fully devoting my time to bbPress:
1) I just wanted to see if I could do it for fun.
2) I had some projects that needed basic forum functionality that couldn’t wait for alternate solutions.
3) Everybody wants something, mostly things I don’t believe belong in a lightweight forum plugin.
4) I’ve been hesitant to get more involved in bbPress because I don’t want to deal with all the drama here.
I just finished three months of intense writing for a WP plugin book, so my time has been limited for a while. I’ve still got book-related things this month as well. Once this process is done, I plan to devote more time to the bbPress plugin.
What we want:
These are the things I believe most of us want, which is the reasons I put together a plugin and the reasons for the bbPress plugin. This comes down to two things:
* A plugin that easily integrates into the WordPress user/role and login system.
* Forums that can be managed from our WP admins.
It’s basically about being able to run forums without a lot of hassle.
The direction I’d like to see the bbPress plugin go:
* Stick with the philosophy: lightweight and basic.
* Allow plugins to extend anything needed beyond basic forum functionality.
* Use the functions WordPress provides where possible.
* Forget backwards-compatible hooks and functions. Build a new system.
Thanks to JJJ for pointing this topic out to me.
Right now, my forum plugin isn’t planned for public release. I’d much rather see a community-supported plugin because a lot more can get done. The plugin could simply be better developed and have better support if it’s a community-run project. Make no mistake, a plugin like this is massive amounts of work, more than one person can realistically handle. Honestly, I don’t want to be the only person developing and supporting a forum plugin.
The reasons I’ve been doing my own thing rather than fully devoting my time to bbPress:
1) I just wanted to see if I could do it for fun.
2) I had some projects that needed basic forum functionality that couldn’t wait for alternate solutions.
3) Everybody wants something, mostly things I don’t believe belong in a lightweight forum plugin.
4) I’ve been hesitant to get more involved in bbPress because I don’t want to deal with all the drama here.
I just finished three months of intense writing for a WP plugin book, so my time has been limited for a while. I’ve still got book-related things this month as well. Once this process is done, I plan to devote more time to the bbPress plugin.
What we want:
These are the things I believe most of us want, which is the reasons I put together a plugin and the reasons for the bbPress plugin. This comes down to two things:
* A plugin that easily integrates into the WordPress user/role and login system.
* Forums that can be managed from our WP admins.
It’s basically about being able to run forums without a lot of hassle.
The direction I’d like to see the bbPress plugin go:
* Stick with the philosophy: lightweight and basic.
* Allow plugins to extend anything needed beyond basic forum functionality.
* Use the functions WordPress provides where possible.
* Forget backwards-compatible hooks and functions. Build a new system.
Welcome to the final installment of the (unofficial) bbPress Top 100 !
This will be the last look* at the incredible growth and diversity of
bbPress adoption around the world over the past several years.
You can see the previous summaries here via the Top100 tag.
http://bbshowcase.org/forums/view/top100
The list is based on post count which implies highest activity.
Sites that appear to fake the numbers or have dubious content
have been moved to the bottom of the Top 10,000
To see the complete Top 10,000 requires free registration/login:
http://bbshowcase.org/forums/view/top10000
Logged in users can also search the list and view the experimental
Tag Cloud http://bbshowcase.org/forums/view/top10000?cloud
and vote on sites that may have superior design even if they didn’t
make the Top 100 regardless of their volume of activity.
This list does not include most of the 1000+ or so BuddyPress installations
that use bbPress to power sub-forums for their groups. This is for technical
reasons, not political – it’s virtually impossible to analyze bbPress under
BuddyPress because of how it’s filtered and blocked. If you have a large
bbPress installation under BuddyPress and you are not in the current list,
contact me for a way to be included if your site would fall in the top 1,000.
*The upcoming rewrite of bbPress will make this kind of third-party analysis
extremely difficult but also unneccesary since it will start to “phone home”
as part of WordPress to Automattic on a daily basis from your server
with all your details, configuration and install information anyway.
So on that note, let’s take a look at the results from the final list!
Topic: bbPress capabilities
I’m building a forum/community and we have a few requirements and I’m hoping you guys can fill in the blanks on whether I can accomplish this with bbPress/buddypress or some solutions of the sort.
Here are some of the requirements:
Question and Answer functionality — Marking a post as an ‘answer’
Stats – Members in forums, total posts, etc
Stickied threads
Vote up/vote down — Stack Overflow like functionality.
Thanks!
Honestly, I really like idea give bbPress more functionality to core. Mainly unread post like phpBB has (All post mark as read and etc.) and more specific permission for some user rules and category. I dont know how many people wants this. We should vote, need polls,… but… Oh yes bbPress doesnt have any polls, we need plugin for this. Is there any plugin workign for my release? Damn…
Of course, for someone Its not important but forum without that its just guestbook with searchbar and topics. Really messy and pure.. Bleh!
Maybe the best solutions could be official bb-plugins supported by developers for every release (but its really hard task for developers). But eveneryone will be happy. Light-weight core and pack of plugins ready to go…
Everytime when i am downloading new plugin i prey: Will that plugin works with my new release? And what the next new release? Its terrible for every user. Sometimes i try fix some bugs but i am not php guru, and its real pain for me…
And for the people that love really light-weight solution. They can still use _ck_ 0.9 fork or another old realease of bbpress. Its up to them but official bbPress need to be pushed.
I love the way bbPress is made. I love functionality, simple look similiar to WordPress (i really love wordpress). But bbPress has so many holes at funcionality. Light weight forum like punBB? No… perhaps more sophisticated solutions with witdgets, gridtables, better sorting by speciphic parameters, quoting, better slug manipulation (like WP has), category manipulation, permissions and mainly integration with WP.
But everything should be fast as could be. Just look at MyBB. Or Perhpaps phpBB. Yaeh, its really fast… its just about optimizing. Why i dont switch to them back? They didnt have support for buddypress or wordpress… I mean native support – everything under one roof.
Conclusion…
bbPress should be disscussion board – right now i am really disapointed. So we can google for forums or helpdesks and find inspirations. If i am wrong, just kick me to my ***
Ash mate, you know how much I like you and your work, but that poll is never going to give even close to an accurate figure. To start with you don’t know why people are voting for each one, or how often, or who’s voting.
I mean, Matt came on here and said that 0.9’s not been looked at in a long time and BAM 1.1 starts to get more votes. Matt forgets to mention, the 1.0 branch has had the same number of releases in the last year as the 0.9 branch: namely 0 !!
How much the 0.9 version has actually gone through testing and how much we can be confident it being secured.
Well it’s had 2 years more testing than 1.0 in the wild, and generally (apologies in advance) by people who are happier coding/debugging/ working without a GUI than the folks using 1.0 branch. Plus, the WP forums were running 0.9 until last August (at least), so it was known to be very secure then.
I know it may contain bugs, any code can but my curiosity lies in the testing & use it has gone through already.
A sh*t load more than 1.0.
Rememebr 1.0 was (another) rewrite decreeed from “above”, and we cancelled all Beta testing, and it took 10 alphas to even get useable (pres Alpha6 isn’t compatible with after-alpha-6), and broke most plugins etc. The process of getting 1.0 out the door also led to some of the real wizards leaving the project behind (see Chip Bennet, Justin Tadlock, JJJ, _ck_ etc), and released it in a week, and we released an update to 0.9 at the same time as 1.0’s last update
In my opinion, as someone who uses both; 1.0 only has 2 things going for it: The Admin section and it has more Actions/Filters.
Replicating actions/filters into 0.9 is easy. As _ck_ said, getting a nice looking UI into 0.9 is a mini project.
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1.1 has some good work, nae, some great work.
It also has some rusheed work, to get it out the door for testing.
It has at least 1000 lines of changed code last I checked (and that wasn’t today or yesterday) and we still have 10 tickets open – all before we release for Alpha testing, and all before we get a new package of BackPress released (in theory) after WP3.0.1’s release.
If we finished all of those tickets this week, and packaged an Alpha testing release for Monday, there is no way 1.1 will be released before September. Infact, we’re looking at a late-September/October release at a minimum, unless we skip testing and bug fixes (again).
Lets take our time and look at 0.9 objectively when 1.1 is close to coming out. Rushing into forks is just as dangerous as rushing into WP-reliant plugins
Ash mate, you’re a very smart guy. Go grab a busy forum and duplicate it on your machine, and convert to 0.9. You’ll very quickly see some of the small issues with it, but you’ll also be amazed at just how quick and robust it is.
Probably.
I just feel sorry for all the plugins developers…
No. Not probably, and not at all.
So far everyone’s managed to keep this pretty light and well mannered, and the easiest way to keep that pace is to not fuel any fires.
And what about non WordPress users?
Non WordPress uses can’t use VaultPress, or BuddyPress. As the plugin is being developed, if you have suggestions on how it might still be able to sit on top of BackPress, I’m open to building that into it also provided it doesn’t overly sacrifice performance in other areas.
There’s a lot of goals we hope to hit by doing this, one of which is allowing bbPress to be pocket sized and extensible from within WordPress, so that it can do other unique things that existing plugins have needed to jump through hurdles to achieve. Dedicated user forums, user groups, post/topic syncing, better BuddyPress integration, attachments, revision history, proper moderation, etc… If you don’t need those things, you can turn them off in WordPress all the same.
I know that my vote isn’t the popular one amongst the dedicated bbPress lovers, and there are lots of logistics to make this a smooth transition. With this initiative we have more people dedicated towards making this smooth and successful than bbPress has ever had in it’s 6 year history. That along with complete support from the original plugin author means it’s the next evolutionary step in bbPress’s journey.
I’ve been involved in too many hobbies to not know what it feels like when the version of something you love is discontinued, and something else replaces it that just ain’t the same. Cars, turntables, computers, cell phones, crock pots… You name it, I’ve dealt with the expiration of one thing, and moved on to the next.
The major difference with us and bbPress, is you all can help make the plugin do what you need it to by contributing code with patches. I couldn’t force Honda to bring back the del Sol CR-X if I tried.
I don’t think anyone’s against getting the next version of bbPress out the door
My concerns are:
- If bbPress0.9 support was meant to last until late 2010, why end it in May?
- Why/When was this decision taken?
- Why not inform us before the code was deleted?
- In fact, why not inform us at all?
Basically:
Sam wrote, as an employee of Automattic, that bbPress0.9 branch would be maintained until ‘late 2010’, how can this be true if we’ve had patches for 0.9 sitting since July2009 without a rollout, and are now not being released?
That effectively means we’ve not been supporting 0.9 since 0.9.0.6 was released on 28thJuly 2009. Awesome, we supported it for a whole 25 days after 1.0 was released (on 3rd July 2009).
Thats a heck of a decision to go back on One’s word like that. And a considerable slap in the face to those of us who have forums still stuck on 0.9 due to 1.0’s failings.
Here’s another issue.
I don’t think we should update the 0.9 branch anymore, and probably not 1.0 either. (Same as WP.)
Matt looks at this project as if it’s working in the same way WP is. It’s not. And I think thats why he’s found the “bbPress community” so hard to get a grip on.
bbPress0.9 and bbpress1.0 are very very different. It’s not a simple upgrade in the way that many versions of WordPress have been – it’s a total and utter rewrite of the backend to use external code being run by a totally different team as an independant product.
bbPress0.9 and bbPress1.0, whichever you prefer to work with, are not incremental releases in the traditional sense – they are very close to being different products. That was reflected in the communities strong desire to have support for bbPress0.9 extended when Sam asked us. Thats right folks, we were asked and voted. Then a decision was made. And thats the crux of the problem.
Saying one thing, doing another, then not mentioning it in the hope no-one notices until weeks after – man, thats just not cool. And the kicker is, I don’t think it’s intentional at all. That’s worse though, because it means we’re a total afterthought (maybe not even an afterthought).
If the decision was made to drop 0.9 support, all someone had to do was make a blog post, or a forum sticky before hand and give folks a heads up. Why is it so hard to treat us with any respect?
Those of us who can’t write brilliant code, attempt to do our best by answering questions on the forums. My plugins will never rival some of _ck_s / Nightgunners / Zaerls. Thats a good thing. My code will never be as good for the Core as Gautam / Sam / mdwaffe. Thats even better news. But really, how can we answer questions that people ask with any certainty at all, when things like this happen (constatly)?
Help us, help you!
please.
With respect, If you think I’ve sucked up to anyone – especially Matt or Automattic people – you’ve really not read alot of my posts. I’ve been very forward, blunt and vocal about Matt dropping the ball on this, not only on this site but on others.
That doesn’t mean I’m going to agree with you, or anyone else, when you insulting someone’s person. Thats not sucking up, thats just being decent. Everyone’s entitled to their opinion.
Matt has messed up. But he’s human, and this is a collaborative effort. You can’t put the blame for everything that goes wrong on one person. Or you can, but in the end you’re only going to alienate yourself from people who have the same goal.
That’s the whole point people, we all built the code and all the plugins
Did “WE”?
You know Matt wrote bbPress right?
You know Matt’s emplyees then fixes bbpress (albeit in an adhoc manner) until bbpress 0.8.3, right?
You know Matt then paid for a ‘full time’ developer for bbPress (Sam Bauers) for a year, right?
Matt is directly/indirectly responsible for more code than anyone else on this project.
Yes, he’s causing more issues than he’s solving right now, and yeah it’s annoying; but insulting his person by saying he doesn’t have Brains or Heart is just childish. And bluntly, unhelpful.
Notice how this site’s Alexa rate is a steady 12k… the entire world is waiting on this mates!
Lets be honest, the entire world isn’t waiting for this. I’ve spent a large chunk of time in Africa volunteering, building schools and basic irrigation. “The World” doesn’t care. We care, but its’ just forum software. Lets look at this in perspective.
Look, if you want Matt/AutoMattic/Developers/bbPress-community/Santa to come together or move forward in a particular direction thats cool. But making grandeous statements like this with no hard facts or suggestions doesn’t help at all. Half of what you said in your second post is so wrong it’s unreal. Honestly, if you want change and you want to help, cool. But don’t just spout facts and conclusions that you’ve made up.
we are on the same team yo!
I… I’m not sure what to say to that.
Can I change teams? Or can we vote people off?
Can we decide if we’re working on bbpress 1.0.3 or bbpress 1.1?
Quote. It is very important for new tickets and plugins updates.
I voted for it being called 1.0.3 as a bug fix release for 1.0.2.
I’d prefer that too. I’ve tagged my new tickets as 1.0.3, but doing this makes the milestone seem never ending…
Sorry I’m late to this topic but what you are asking sounds very similar to what I was asking here
https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/feeding-topics-from-external-source
It seems as if I differ with @kevinjohngallagher’s interpretation of what users and communities want from their forum/blog/wiki/crm solution
However what you seem to be looking for is very similar to what we have decided on PmWiki+bbPress
We voted firmly against wordpress as a product mainly because
1. It has become dreadfully bloated
2. It is difficult to customise (partly as a result of 1)
3. It is a blog (a time driven format) conversation centered around one individual and un-managed comments from visitors. Typically “this is my opinion” followed by “I agree” comments.
I would also steer fairly clear of IP.Board and IP.Blog it is very much under development and considering it is a commercial product is very expensive for what it does.
I feel that someone with a basic knowledge of worpress should be able to add a similar button form to wp code to allow a “Forum This” from wordpress.
