[_ck_]

One possible way to benchmark the performance is to run these two queries in phpmyadmin (via SQL tab)

SELECT SQL_NO_CACHE t.* FROM bb_topics AS t   USE INDEX(topic_time)  WHERE t.topic_status = '0' AND t.topic_sticky != '2'   ORDER BY t.topic_time DESC LIMIT 25

vs.

SELECT SQL_NO_CACHE t.* FROM bb_topics AS t  WHERE t.topic_status = '0' AND t.topic_sticky != '2'   ORDER BY t.topic_time DESC LIMIT 25

On my setup the one with the forced index takes half the time of the one without, however we are talking 0.0026 sec vs 0.0013 sec so that is almost meaningless. What we need is someone with 10,000 topics and then you’ll know for certain.

[chrishajer]

So long as it doesn’t kill anything (error out), I’m fine with installing it. I can wait for the performance improvements (if there will be any.) My forum has only 600 or so topics right now.

[_ck_]

Should work on both 0.9 and trunk.

Seems fine on my 0.9 and trunk.

Unfortunately I have too few topics to benchmark any significant performance increase since this is only helpful to more active forums (ie. > 1000 topics)

[chrishajer]

What versions will that work on, _ck_?

[_ck_]

Not extensively tested but this will do it without a core hack

(once ALTER TABLE bb_topics ADD INDEX (topic_time) is done)

<?php

/*

Plugin Name: Topic Time Index

*/

add_filter('get_latest_topics_join','topic_time_index',99999);

function topic_time_index($join) {return " $join USE INDEX(topic_time) ";}

?>

[John James Jacoby]

Seems maybe the core should be updated to work around this eh?

[_ck_]

This is the SQL query to use if others want to add such an index:

ALTER TABLE bb_topics ADD INDEX (topic_time)

But that in itself is not enough, bbPress has to be forced to use the index.

I am trying to figure out a way to do this without hacking the core, via a mini-plugin instead.

[_ck_]

That’s funny I was just about to make a TRAC ticket pointing out there is no index on topic_time for the latest view.

Strange you have to force the index though, what is the default ORDER BY, let me go look…

yup, they order by topic_time, with no index, that’s just crazy, even for just 1000 topics, because it would have to do a full column scan. Ordering by topic_last_post_id would be even faster with an index too though I guess in a very strange circumstance the last post might not be the last time.

Still, you should not have to force the index.

Oh wait, I see why – it’s because mysql decides to use the stickies key instead, ugh.

Yeah I can see why that would bring a large forum to a crawl.

I think whomever designed the bbPress database tables had a misunderstanding how mysql indexes work because they are using multiple field indexes that are not the primary key. Or a key at all. Which is useless because mysql will only use one index per query regardless of it’s complexity (or lack of). An index on multiple fields is useless unless it’s used as a key. MySQL 5 can use different indexes for the query vs ORDER BY or GROUP BY but bbPress doesn’t take advantage of that at all.

[anotherdan]

I have just re-launched a site containing about 43000 topics and over 300000 posts…

I had severe performance issues on all sites using the get_latest_topics functionality (the frontpage was severe because it is using more than once in my custom theme).

Because of the “index” design it file-sorting because it’s sorting on topic_time and is mysql is hitting the stickies index.

The solution was to create a new index only with the topic_time field in it. However I was unable to force this index in the query without touching the core files.

This is what i did:

Could there be a filter there so I could move this out into a plugin?

BB_Query::generate_topic_sql function:

$index_append = '';

switch ($this->query_id) {

case 'get_latest_topics':

$index_append = ' FORCE INDEX (topics_time_order) ';

break;

}



$this->request = $this->_filter_sql( $bits, "$bbdb->topics AS t $index_append" );

I guess I will find more places where I could do some index optimization that fit’s my install… I can’t be the first running into this issue?

[grassrootspa]

Been really excited about BBpress 1 and was planning on incorporating it into my WordPress site when it finished Alpha testing.

Anyone have any clue how IntenseDebate (via WordPress plugin) interacts with BBpress 1? Anyone have problems?

Obviously with Automatic behind both I’m sure its only a matter of time before BBpress, IntenseDebate and WordPress go together like Peanut butter, Jelly, and bread.

[sbouazza]

Hello,

I’ve finished the front-page styling for my future French SEO forum, here’s a screenshot ( the forum itself is not yet online, so I can show you only a screenshot sorry ) : http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/7527/forumscreenshotyb4.png .

And here’s the same design rendered using Lynx ( I use it to test accessibility, even if it isn’t the “perfect” accessibility checker ) : http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3513/forumscreenshotlynxzc6.png .

What do you think ? It is good or bad ?

[JesperA]

Hi!

I want to use a couple of WordPress function so i tried to include wp_blog_header in bb_config like this:

“require_once(‘../wp-blog-header.php’);”

This works well if i am in the forum section but as soon as i go into bb-admin i get the terrible feared:

Warning: require_once(/wp-blog-header.php) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in C:wampspeedrevisionforumbb-config.php on line 49

Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required ‘/wp-blog-header.php’ (include_path=’.;C:php5pear’) in C:wampspeedrevisionforumbb-config.php on line 49

This worked great in 0.9.0.3 but in the latest unstable version 1 A4 it does this, why?

And why does it say that a forum is locked when i am trying to make a post?

Would really appreciate some help

[chrishajer]

I just watched the basic integration screencast and tried integration again. I ran into some of the same problems mentioned above so I did a little testing.

1. Sam, thanks for the screencast.

2. Using a subdirectory of forums, and then making a WordPress Page called “Forums” with a slug of “forums” works just fine. The page will show up in your WordPress page menu like any other Page, but the real ‘forums’ subdirectory you installed bbPress into is what is displayed to visitors, NOT the content of the WordPress Page called “Forums.” I used to install a redirect plugin at WordPress to redirect the “Forums” Page to the http://example.com/forums/ real subdirectory, but I guess this works just fine like this. Good to know.

3. When using PHP4 (4.4.9) I encountered the “Forum could not be created!” error mentioned above. I thought it was possibly the MySQL version (which was 4.0.27 I believe) but it turned out that by using PHP5 (5.2.6) it installed fine, into the same database. I added this to my .htaccess file in the site root (for WordPress and bbPress):

AddType x-mapp-php5 .php

That forced .php files to be processed as PHP5. I did that before installing WordPress. I confirmed with phpinfo that PHP5 was being used for both the blog and the forum. The 2nd time through (actually, the 3rd time, but that’s a different story), using PHP5, the forum was created properly.

After that, following the screencast pretty closely resulted in an installation where I can log in as Admin (key master) at either bbPress or WordPress, and I am logged in on the other side, as expected. Logging out of one logs me out of both. It’s what I expect user integration to be.

Waiting for the next screencast, Sam. Thanks.

p.s. Did I miss it, or is the NONCE key for bbPress never set in the video? I have one in wp-config.php, since the keys were generated by the WordPress.org API, but did I miss setting that in bbPress? Should I just make it the same as it is in bbPress? Will not having it prevent me from administering the forum or something? I didn’t test any functionality of the forum, just the logins.

[Ganzuelo]

I had the stable version 9.03? And I thought it was integrated with my word press. I then went to do the upgrade to the latest version and the Admin area was all screwy. I have the day off so I decided uh I can just start over, deleted word press, deleted bbpress I got wordpress back and now I cant get bbpress going.. i use vista Firefox and I am getting a loop redirect error and I cant get by it

[Malice]

Yea I have a similar problem. A sticky in a subforum (not sticky to front) makes the topic disappear from the subforum. It does still show up in the latest discussion on the frontpage. Can’t sticky posts in individual subforums though.

Forum

I use several plugins, all activated:

BBcode Buttons Toolbar 0.0.8

BBcode Lite 1.0.3

BBPress Private Messaging 0.80

bbPress signatures 0.1.9

bbPress Smilies 0.0.5

bb Topic Views 1.6.3

Bozo Users 1.0

Google Analitycs 0.1

Human Test for bbPress 0.8.2

Instant Password 0.0.4

New User Notification Email 0.0.2

Post Count Plus – Dynamic.Titles & More! 1.1.6

Quote 0.2

Subscribe to Topic 0.0.1

Unread Posts 0.9.3

[walkerevans]

I was just thinking the same thing. I’ve run a few tests and it doesn’t appear to search tags or headlines.

If anyone knows a fix it would be great to hear one!

[_ck_]

Untested. Actually the forum is deleting some of the code so use it from here:

http://pastebin.com/f54a958de

<?php

/*

Plugin Name: Wiki Link

*/

add_action('post_text','wiki_link',200);

function wiki_link($text) {

$url="http://example.com/path_to_wiki?terms=";

$text=preg_replace("/([[(.+?)]])/si","<a class='wiki_link' href='$url$2'>$2</a>",$text);

return $text;

}

?>

the above is missing two $2, should look like

<a class='wiki_link' href='$url$2'>$2</a>

[chrishajer]

You could switch the display to list the forums up top and the latest posts on bottom. Just edit your front-page.php template file and move things around where it’s best for your users.

[hotforwords]

I have the same setup, running 2.7 and bbpress alpha 4. About half of my users got roles, half didn’t. And we’re talking about 15,000 plus users with no roles!

When I create a user in WordPress, the user has no role in bbpress and I get the errors above when trying to edit the user with no role. Even after logging in, there is still no role.

Hmmm…

Is there a way I can add the updated files from the latest trunk that you are talking about? I am not technical enough to understand svn.

Thanks!

[walkerevans]

Commented out the following code in template-functions.php got it to work again… testing to see if this is going to cause any security problems.

//if ( ‘user_email’ == $key && $bb_current_id != $user->ID )

// continue;

[TechGnome]

Well, that would explain why I couldn’t find it. Not intending to be snarky about it, but doncha think that little piece of info was kind of important?

No, I am not running the alpha. I never do. Doing that (especially on a prod site) just leads to trouble. I’m running the latest stable that was available a week or two ago. I’ll have to check out the plugin.

thanks.

-tg

[sbouazza]

The typical forum layout comes from catering to new visitors that want descriptions of each category, and from repeat visitors wanting to check if there are updates to that category without having to click into that category.

Of course, my goal is to break that “tradition” and create something newer and, as you said, wik-ish .

Tags also are really great for moderating topics, you can immediately find duplicate topics and close them .

The forum will be managed BY the community, so using tags for navigation and giving the users the right to create them freely will not be a problem ( tags spam ? the spammer will get a kick in the ass ), and the moderation team will do its best to prevent tags abuse.

If tags could visually signify if there are new posts for the visitor inside of them, maybe with emphasis or italics or reordering them to the front of the cloud, that would be a neat idea.

Good idea, noted .

Well, thank you all for your responses, I’ll try to finish the template then I’ll invite users to test it and give me their feedbacks .

I didn’t see someone else using tag navigation on his forum, so maybe I will be the first to use it ( or to loose )

[suzkaw]

This theme has just been updated and you can get the latest version (v0.3) from here:

http://ericlbarnes.com/projects/inove-for-bbpress/

Changes Include:

1. Moved search to nav bar.

2. Added support for js sub navigation

3. Moved login to sidebar

4. Added bbpress logo to footer. Thanks to Paul.

[Fernando Tellado]

I’m finishing my new forum (latest was made with SMF). I’m using bbPress 1.0 alpha 4 with the default theme (in blue and customized) and several plugins (a lot):

– Akismet

– Attachments

– Favourites notification

– Registration notification

– Temporal Ban

– bbcode buttons

– smileys buttons

– Related topics

– Signatures

– bbcode lite

– bbvideo

– post count plus

– support forum

– mass edit

– hidden forums

– active users

– bbpress karma

– terms of service

– human test

– report post

I’ve made the translation of bbPress 1.0 to spanish ( http://ayudawordpress.com/bbpress-espanol-alpha-104/ ) and the forum URL is …

htp://foro.ayudawordpress.com

[TechGnome]

Hot Dang! I finally got my radio station web site up and running using bbPress! You can see it here: http://tannagh.com … as you can see, the front page isn’t your out of the box bbPress front page. It’s actually driven by a completely different database on a different server all together. It rocks! Getting that one page to work as it currently does was a big pain. I still have some work to do on the site, like getting the search and request functionality working, but just getting what I did was a big hurdle. I’ve now got a handle on how bbP works, the rest should be fairly smooth. *crosses fingers…. arms…. legs…. hairs… knocks on wood*

Go ahead, take a look, poke around a little. Just don’t sign up for the forums, as I’ll be clearing them out again after some testing. To get to the forums themselves, click the link in the left hand “TR Listener Forums”. The new front page was rendered using a plugin that I’m developing to integrate with the station’s database, creating a new file in the template to display the info, and creating a new root file “forums.php” which is an exact copy of the original index.php file. Index.php is then routed to the new front page file in the template.

Some stats:

Template: BlackLetterhead by Ulysses Ronquillo

bbPress Version: what ever stable I downloaded about two weeks ago.

Running SpacialAudio’s SAM Broadcaster 4.3.6

Licensing via LoudCity

Rendered using new & customized template and root files

Driven by samPHPWeb-bbPress plugin

-tg