[chrishajer]

Did you enter that at trac? If not, please do so. I am trying to get things fixed in core before we go ahead and add any new features. So, it’s best that problems be reported in trac, and people comment on the tickets there (i.e. they can or cannot reproduce the problem). Thanks

[kevinjohngallagher]

Hi Chris,

Thats it yes, your example works nicely.

The thing is, i could always write a plugin todo a recurring loop through all parent/child nodes and count forums posts and update the latest one for each parent – but really this should be something in the core.

Effectively its a bug, and one i raised a year ago

[wabanator]

We are using latest WP and BBpress + BBsync. The problem is that when unregisted users post comment to the blog their post is copied to forum as blank post. Forum shows their name right, but the post is totally blank.

What should we do about it? Any fix?

[Michael]

Greetings!

In my previous topics, I have mentioned how I’m planning to improve my forum. As it stands, I have a list of things to sort out, as well as things I’d like to add/change.

Obviously, some of these changes will involve changing the core, including the following:

Upon running through the Vanilla Forum ‘Discussions’ page, I noticed the ‘Activity’ tab. This kinda captured my attention because my forum is really a community, if anything.

What I’d like to know is this:

1. If I attempt to introduce this kind of thing to my forum, should it be a part of the Latest Discussions (which I can change the heading for) on the front page, or should it have it’s own page, in your opinion? Of course, I’d have a few more things to include in the stream, such as updates of profile information.
2. Also, if anyone can guide me, what files would I need to have a look at to implement this? I guess I’m really looking for the files that have something to do with implementing an action, such as the file that updates a part of one’s profile. I don’t want to make mistakes and change the wrong files.

At some stage, I guess it would be nice to make a plug-in for this, but I need to learn a lot more about creating them.

I’d appreciate any help I can get for this, I would hate to screw it up and re-install.

Peace, Michael

[grassrootspa]

@kriskl:

I like where are going. Perhaps you are on to something. Building off your initial idea, what about some sort of 2010 plugin development contest?

As you noted, several people here chipped into _ck_ and got their money returned. I’m sure those same people might be open to something like this.

Heck, if we had some ‘bbPress plugin contest’ I’ll chip in something.

Anyone else like have any thoughts on this? Would anyone else be willing to donate toward a bbPress plugin development contest?

If we can get 10 folks to match one another at $25 or $50 each we can get a small but sizable initial pot built.

The Sandbox development contest back in 2007 initially had $500 total to distribute between 1st, 2nd and 3rd place (http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/05/31/announcing-the-sandbox-designs-competition/) After some sponsorships the total in competition prizes rose to $1950. (http://sndbx.org/details/)

Look, the top prize is most likely not going to be a zillion bucks, but it its not a bad idea to stick a steroid shot in the plugin development arm and get some more people fired up (or fired up once again) about bbPress development.

Heck, even if someone took an existing plugin that didn’t work with bbPress 1.02 and updated it, this would be an improvement.

Perhaps this plugin contest could be scheduled/built around around the revamping/relaunching of the bbPress.org site and the introduction of the new bbPress codex section.

Thoughts? Anyone else willing to match a small donation toward such a contest? Haha, if people like this idea, the bbPress Theme contest comes next

[chrishajer]

kjg (sorry, too tired to type):

see this http://www.lawserver.com/forums/

Do the totals work the way you want for forums/parents/subforums? That is bbPress installation I integrated with Joomla of all things. I believe I fixed the problem with a plugin or some custom code so if this is the end result you’re looking for, let me know and I will look back at how I did it.

[chrishajer]

kjg, so the example posted there is an example showing the problem, correct? 0 topics, 0 posts but there are actually maybe 3 topics and 8 posts in subforums?

[Dailytalker]

Kevin, before I changed from SMF to bbpress I checked the extensions. I use the following plugins:

Activated:

allow images

image rezizer

bbvideo

Bavatars

BBcode Buttons Toolbar

BBcode Lite

bbPM

bbpress signatures

bbpress smilies

bbpress user directory

bozo users

members online

Not activated:

Askimet (do not like it)

Remove topic forum (unfortunately there is no updated version, it would be a cool thing for users who like SEO-friendly pretty urls)

open-ID (no facebook login and does cause problems with the current bbpress version; wait until its updated)

bbpress polls (causes some problems with my template)

bb topic views (did not find out how to change the language; does not work with poedit and in the files I did not fiend the word “views” so I cannot translate it in german)

ignore user (needs to be updated for the current bbpress version)

All this plugins are nice but with all this bbpress is ways apart from SMF. Thats why former members complaint about the change from SMF to bbpress. SMF allowed to write drafts before posting and other things not mentioned yet…

Regarding the spam problem: SMF and wordpress did solve that problem (wordpress has a lot of good spam protection plugins as well..no need for askimet). I have a pr 5 page and no problems with spam. Register option 3 usually is secure enough. Email-address needs to be proved and there is a captcha-code. If this is not enough you can use register option 4 (member approval) With member approval the admin has to activate new members. With this spam can be avoided. Further SMF had a sophisticated bozo-user ban protection. You could ban by member-name, ban by IP-Number, ban by email address etc.

Regarding the design of the new forum:

The new forum design is better than the design of the old forum. I am not a designer, therefore I don’t think like a designer. I am somebody who likes to have the overview. The new theme is better to keep the overview. On the top you have the latest posts. Beneath you have the different categories and subcategories. This structure is easy to understand. Further the new design allows me to place more ads. Also I work with a drop down menu. Did you use it? It helps too to keep the overview.

[kevinjohngallagher]

Thought i’d post another example using teh same website to make it clearer:

No posts:

http://fellowshipoftheding.org/forums/

(look at class mechanics on the bottom)

And yet it actually does:

http://www.fellowshipoftheding.org/forums/forum/class-mechanics

[Lexey]

Hello everybody!

Unfortunately I have no mysql extension installed on my hosting. Has anyone the latest version of BBPress with MySQLi support?

[Mikado]

I was tested this plugin but it does not make what I want. I want to show a list and not to mark forums or topics or posts.

[citizenkeith]

One of my users, who is running Linux Mint 8 with Firefox, started getting a “Save As” dialog from Firefox when clicking the “Log Out” link in bbPress. It started as soon as I activated this plugin.

We’re doing some additional testing to see if it continues. I couldn’t recreate it with Windows and Firefox though.

[grassrootspa]

Hey guys,

I have a weird forum display issue and have no clue what I’m doing wrong. (My site is NewsTalkPA.com)

I’m trying to get the lower forum section on FrontPage.php and Forum.php to display like this:

CATEGORIES_TOPICS_POSTS_(GRAVATAR)_LAST POSTER_LAST POST (see: http://newstalkpa.com/)

1) Everything seems to be working for the first 3 headings (which are standard), but the “Gravatar” and “Last Poster” seem to show up in the wrong rows (the Gravatar and Last Poster for the corresponding sections appear one row off.)

I have no clue why this happens. It’s probably something very silly.

Any idea what I messed up in the coding?:

2) Also, any advice on getting the LAST POST to generate a clickable link to that post (right now the link is not clickable)

Thanks in advance as I am stumped!

<?php if ( bb_forums() ) : ?>

<h2><?php _e('Forums'); ?></h2>

<table id="forumlist">



<tr>

<th style="width:20px;"></th>

<th style="width:660px;"><?php _e('Categories'); ?></th>

<th><?php _e('Topics'); ?></th>

<th><?php _e('Posts'); ?></th>

<th style=padding:0px><?php _e('<i><b><font size=+1><font color=#a81817>!</font></font></b></i>'); ?></th>

<th><?php _e('Last Poster'); ?></th>

<th><?php _e('Last Post'); ?></th>

</tr>

<?php while ( bb_forum() ) : ?>

<tr<?php bb_forum_class(); ?>>



<td class="num" style=padding:2px><img src='http://newstalkpa.com/graphics/redfolder20.gif' width='30' height='20'><br></td>



<td><?php bb_forum_pad( '<div class="nest">' ); ?><a href="<?php forum_link(); ?>"><?php forum_name(); ?></a><small><?php forum_description(); ?></small><?php bb_forum_pad( '</div>' ); ?></td>

<td class="num"><?php forum_topics(); ?></td>

<td class="num"><?php forum_posts(); ?></td>

<td class="num" style=padding:0px>

<?php echo "<img src='http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=".md5(bb_get_user_email($topic->topic_last_poster))."' width='24' height='24'><br>"; ?>

</td>

<td class="num">

<small><a href="<?php user_profile_link($topic->topic_last_poster) ?>" ><?php topic_last_poster(); ?></a></small>

</td>



<td class="num"><a href="<?php $topic = $GLOBALS['topic'] = current( get_latest_topics( array( 'number' => 1, 'forum' => get_forum_id() ) ) ); ?>"><?php topic_title(); ?></td>



<?php endwhile; ?>

</table>

<?php endif; // bb_forums() ?>

[grassrootspa]

My apologies for bumping this up but:

<td class="num"><a href="<?php $topic = $GLOBALS['topic'] = current( get_latest_topics( array( 'number' => 1, 'forum' => get_forum_id() ) ) ); ?>"><?php topic_title(); ?></a></td>

…makes the last forum post appear, but the hyperlink does NOT work (the link generated is the current page that the reader is on).

Any idea how to resolve this?

[chrishajer]

There is no script I know of to migrate from IPB to bbPress.

There are themes available but finding them is a little difficult right now. They are scattered about, not in one central repository as with WordPress.

[paamayim]

Just an update, I read elsewhere that this is deprecated in latest WP versions:

require_once dirname(dirname(__FILE__)) . '/wp-blog-header.php';

This should be used instead:

require_once dirname(dirname(__FILE__)) . '/wp-load.php';

[test1024]

just discovered bbpress. really like it.

is there a migration path from invision?

are there themes available out of the box?

[johnhiler]

Ah hmm, I just checked a test install for 1.0.2, and it has a similar issue.

On the Dashboard, it says “252 posts” and “71 topics”.

But on the Posts page it says there are 249 posts, and on the Topics page it says there are 68 topics.

It sounds like a bug… but I don’t see a report here?

https://trac.bbpress.org/report/1

Can anyone else confirm this is an issue for you on bbPress 1.0.2 as well? If so, please post here and then we can file a trac report!

[hpguru]

Hi, i have very good bbPress forum. I like bbPress. I am use a bbPress 1.0.2 but i may found 1 new bug.

I go to my bbPress dashboard and see posts count, thats say: 4024 posts.

Then i go to bb-admin/posts.php and i see 1 – 20 / 4,121. This mean i have 4121 posts on my forum.

I try recounting without any help to this problem.

My plugins now:

Akismet

Human Test For bbPress

Topics Per Page

bbSmilies (maybe smilies from WordPress plugin, i change it name, when i modified smilies codes)

[chrishajer]

> have you had any issue with your 3 forums’ bbPress registration emails hitting folks’ spam folks?

Not really. Occasionally someone will email me and tell me they never received their password reset email, but that’s easily handled manually. The 3 forums are small, so management is not a problem. If they were larger with more users, I’d be looking for better ways of automating the management of them, but right now they are just fine. I have _ck_’s human test installed on all 3, and don’t use akismet. Occasionally I get a spam post, but it’s just a minor nuisance. At least I don’t have any trouble with false positives with Akismet. Again, if they were larger volume, I’d be looking for other ways of managing the forums.

[danova]

Set up a test site, and move stuff around till you get it. It’s pretty straight forward.

[chrisjdavisorg]

Around 3 weeks of worry free activity. There haven’t been any software upgrades to bbPress, and no new plugins/themes. I am using the latest stable release. The environment is our own internal setup. No changes there as well.

[johnhiler]

@grassrootspa – It sounds like there are two different issues being discussed:

1) bbPress needs a Facebook connect feature

2) That feature (along with a bunch of others) should be in the core

1) FB Connect

On the first point… typically the way new features get built is to either:

* build it yourself, or to

* hire someone to build it for you.

The third path is to try and convince others to build it for you for free… but I’ve very rarely ever seen that work.

I’ve actually read stats that show that Facebook Connect can greatly uptick registration:

http://www.businessinsider.com/2008/12/facebook-connect-still-tiny-will-grow-fast

So it may be worth building. But it’s very very difficult to convince someone to develop plugins for free, especially when we don’t have many (any?) active plugin developers… so that basically just leaves the options to build it yourself or to hire someone to build it for ya.

If you tell the developer that it will be open source, maybe they will discount their fee? Or you could ask other users to contribute to the fee…

2) All/most major features should be in the Core

WordPress has put a ton of features into the Core. It’s gotten to the point where even smallish sites can’t run without a caching plugin:

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001105.html

It’s not just CPU – the latest versions also eat up lots of memory just to serve up a single page:

http://www.oceanlight.com/log/wordpress-28-memory-usage-and-bloat.html

I’m not sure if this Canonical Plugins initiative would help reduce this bloat or not:

https://wordpress.org/development/2009/12/canonical-plugins/

We don’t have to predict that moving most features into the core will increase bloat and slow down servers… it’s already happened on the WordPress side of things. I think most smaller blogs don’t mind – you can just add caching and be fine for a while. It’s a lot harder for larger sites… I’ve wrestled with scaling my blog, and I’m on a dedicated server. But Matt mentioned that scaling is not really an issue, so I must be missing something:

http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2009/08/28/podcast-25-wordpress-matt-mullenweg/

I think it will be a lot harder to cache bbPress than it will be to cache WordPress, since community sites update so many more times than to a blog. So the WordPress strategy to put a lot of features into the core and address scaling through a caching option… probably won’t be as effective on the bbPress side of things. So that makes it even more important to keep the bbPress core clean.

In any case, I don’t want to be a downer here – there’s still hope for the bbPress platform, if we can unite around keeping the core engine “simple, fast, and elegant” (especially fast!!). If not, then it will be tough to keep the platform viable and we risk losing what progress we’ve made so far.

[grassrootspa]

@ (my affable sparring partner) kevinjohngallagher:

1) re: the 350 million facebook users, there was just a story on Mashable ‘Facebook’s Road to 350 Million Users’: (http://mashable.com/2009/12/02/facebook-350-million-users/)

“Mark Zuckerberg’s note detailing Facebook’s latest privacy changes also contained an announcement about another important milestone for Facebook: 350 million users.”

Facebook’s own website: (http://www.facebook.com/press/info.php?statistics):”‘More than 350 million active users”

I’m just going with what they said

2) I don’t have official ‘stats’ but can tell you Facebook connect is put to use on my site (I run Intense Debate, which offers various ways folks can leave comments). Twitter connect is occasionally as well (but not as much as FB connect) My general point is this: it’s optional and it and brings new folks into the discussion. IntenseDebate was smart to incorporate several different optional login methods! From my standpoint, I am very happy to offer FB connect to my readers

3) “So, who are these magical little elves that are going to build and then maintain all these features??” (BTW, I too am a South Park fan so I immediately got your reference):

Build and maintain all those features? You are missing my point…if existing popular plugins like ‘topic views’ or ‘bbcode’ are built into the core a third party no longer needs to maintain the plugin and make sure they don’t break in bbPress 1.0, bbPress 1.1, etc. They are STANDARDIZED and can be further fleshed out! (WordPress example: Just like WordPress did with the automatic updater and ability to thread comments…) _ck_ came up with some really slick and widely used plugins, and she is probably won’t be maintaining them from here on out. Maybe stuff like ‘BBcode Buttons’ should continue as a Core features?

Even though we both disagree on some of these things, we both want the same thing…bbPress to be more widely used & developed and the bbpress community to grow (those that make plugins, templates, etc). I would also like to see bbPress to emerge as a vBulletin alternative.

Again, things like Voices, gravatars, profile pics, profile occupation and location, tags etc could have all been simply left as plugins, but they were incorporated into the core. My overall point (forget FB connect for a sec) is that things like Voices, gravatars, profile pics, profile occupations, location, and other features are part of the core and that is a very good thing! It makes it easier for bbPress to be more widely used because a separate plugin is not needed for each (good for newbies, stability, and so community can further flesh them out via plugins or themes) There is less danger of those features breaking (they are now features of the Core, not separate plugins). The use of those features is standardized so plugins and themes can be developed to make use of those features without requiring a plugin to use each.

In a nutshell, I think things like bbcode, topic views, and some other plugins should sit alongside Voices, gravatars, etc as features that should be incorporated into the Core.

kevinjohngallagher, I love your passion. I am someone who is probably not as skilled as you are with computers and technology (17FB accounts…you sound busy!) I’m not a developer, just some newbie that taught himself how to run WordPress and bbPress by messing around with the stuff.

We aren’t going to agree on Facebook-connect (it’s a tougher sell than some of the others), but I would wager that there is probably a popular plugin or two that you might also agree should logically be part of the core for stability and out-of-the-box-feature issues. Thoughts?

[kevinjohngallagher]

If anything, this situation appears to fall into the issue i raised over a year ago here: https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/parent-childrelationship-in-forum-loop

In the discussion that ensured, it transpired that BBpress doesn’t incorporate linaegae or heritage in anyway.

EDIT: OOps link may be wrong:

BBpress. Mindset, features and where now? discuss…

and specifically https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/bbpress-mindset-features-and-where-now-discuss#post-20777 really help to see the fundamental of BBpress not understanding lineage/heritage in the core.