[kevinjohngallagher]

Rootside ::

Has anyone considered the possiblity that Matt is keeping his eyes peeled on the current efforts of some people trying to use nothing but WordPress’ core functions to build a simple forum?

He might be mate, but probably not, as doing so isn’t that difficult at all. I creted a “theme” for WordPress that made it look/work like a forum in essence back in 2008. The same time I made and released the phpBB theme for bbPress. Both were availible on the bbProgress website (which closed last year but there should still be some links on t’internet).

And Justin’s coding one based on the new Custom Post features, which will work alot better than mine did (he actually build one last year too, but had a hard drive crash and lost it).

Basically though, a blog and a forum are different in their “n to n” nature. WordPress relies on a huge amount of caching to try and keep it’s memory intake down, and a customised caching mechanism is essential once you hit any form of modernday traffic. That sort of feature works well on “1 to many” software, but a forum is different. It has to call data differently, and handle multiple parent/child relationships.

Rootside ::

I’m guessing that any WP plugin which makes that kind of thing easy to set up and enhances its functionality would be really lightweight.

No, no way mate The opposite.

I understand the desire to make a WP plugin that is a forum, I can see Matt’s viewpoint on that, but in comparison to bbPress as it stands, it’ll be far from lightweight.

Not only will it struggle with the caching that WP relies on, but you’ll have all the overhead of loading everything in WordPress before hitting any actual forum content (including the WordPress admin sections and plugins).

It’s basically going to be very similar to the BuddyPress “bbPress” plugin, as thats a hacked/stripped version of bbpress1.0 (in general terms it removed BackPress and rewrote the function calls to call WP/buddyPress functions directly). But in order to get it to work, every page has to load WordPress then BuddyPress then bbPress forum module.

Lightweight it ain’t!

Even if the very clever people that work at Automattic and contribute to the community manage to pull a great number of rabits out of hats, there is no way that it will be anything but bloated.

But you know, 90% of folks won’t care. Take Marius (poster above me), he runs a forum about Michael Jackson with aboot 100+ users and maybe 50 topics started a week. He’s not that uncommon to alot of the folks that pass through here (other than that he is allergic to manners). They won’t care in the slightest about the small hit as the chances of them noticing it are going to be slim, and they get access to all the good stuff that comes with WordPress, heck for the most part they’ll get the stuff they think they should from bbPress/Wordpress integration now. For a percentage of people, there will be no downside, even if it’s far from lightweight.

I realise that software moves on, and I realise that as it grows there will be some bloat. Thats the reality of where we are, and WordPress does a really great job of being quick despire it’s bloat. But the sheer difference between a bbP0.9/WP2.5 deeply integrated forum (which has MORE features than we have now) and a bbP1/WP3 deeply integrated forum is unbelievable. Bloated, slower, more prone to errors and less features.

I see why Matt thinks things have to change, i don’t agree with the direction and thats cool, i don’t have to agree, nor does anyone

But really the history of this project has taught us one thing repeatedly: Heading in a direction without planning or a roadmap will definately lead us somewhere else, but we’ll be just as lost. Who knows though, 40 years later he may just lead us out of the desert

Hopefully on Matt’s way up to Montreal he’ll see a burning bush

[kevinjohngallagher]

I can answer that Chirs.

If you type in , you get a [code] HTML output.
If you type in a [backtick] you get a [code] wrapped in a [pre] tag (which is right so formatting is preserved as well).

The [pre] tag is the one that has the cool style on it.

#bborg-discussion #thread div.post pre {
background-color:#FFFFFF;
border:1px solid #EAEAEA;
display:block;
overflow:auto;
padding:10px;
width:528px;
}

Don’t you just LOVE this new untested theme with all these wonderful hacks?

[code], you get a HTML output.
If you type in a [backtick] you get a [code] wrapped in a [pre] tag (which is right so formatting is preserved as well).

The [pre] tag is the one that has the cool style on it.

#bborg-discussion #thread div.post pre {
background-color:#FFFFFF;
border:1px solid #EAEAEA;
display:block;
overflow:auto;
padding:10px;
width:528px;
}

Don’t you just LOVE this new untested theme with all these wonderful hacks?

[code] HTML output.

If you type in a [backtick] you get a wrapped in a [pre] tag (which is right so formatting is preserved as well).

The [pre] tag is the one that has the cool style on it.

#bborg-discussion #thread div.post pre {
background-color:#FFFFFF;
border:1px solid #EAEAEA;
display:block;
overflow:auto;
padding:10px;
width:528px;
}

Don’t you just LOVE this new untested theme with all these wonderful hacks?

[code] wrapped in a [pre] tag (which is right so formatting is preserved as well).

The [pre] tag is the one that has the cool style on it.

#bborg-discussion #thread div.post pre {

background-color:#FFFFFF;

border:1px solid #EAEAEA;

display:block;

overflow:auto;

padding:10px;

width:528px;

}

Don’t you just LOVE this new untested theme with all these wonderful hacks?

[chrishajer]

Wow, backticks in this post actually formatted the code sort of nicely (with a white box.)

TEST:

<?php

if (function_exists('phpinfo')) {

phpinfo();

}

?>

[johnhds]

Quite a few:

allow images 0.9

auto add favorites 1.0

avatar upload 0.8.3

bavatars 0.4.1

bbcode buttons toolbar 0.0.9

bbpress attachments 0.2.7

bbpress recent replies 0.1b

bbpress signatures 0.2.0

bb wysiwyg editor 1.2.0

custom rotating ads 0.1

google sitemaps 0.1

hot topic 0.0.1

human test for bbpress 0.9.2

image resizer 0.2

prvate forums 5.0

subscribe to topic 0.0.6

social it 1.5

terms of service 0.0.3

topic icons 0.0.5

user photo for bbpress 1.1

xili new post notification (xnpn) 0.9

Thanks

[kevinjohngallagher]

When I overwrite something, especially in bbPress, I ususally clear that was there before hand.

#front-page #hottags {

background: none;

border: none;

background-color: red;

border: 1px solid blue;

}

That way you don’t need to worry about things that are not implemented in all browsers. The more I work with charities and the more I test on different combinations of OS/Browsers and even mobile platforms, the more I code my CSS like it’s 2000 again. Amazing how it all still works and looks the same.

[kevinjohngallagher]

Hi Taeo!

Thanks for the link, but I feel that you’re way off base.

For those who can’t skip it, here’s the WPtavern recap:

http://www.wptavern.com/mattnote-from-wordcamp-san-francisco

[Matt] even admitted that right now, it would be better off to use another plugin rather than bbPress.

Can anyone explain to me how it was helpful of Matt to do that?

He’s not managing expectations, he’s merely degrading the work people are doing. Note, Matt’s not done this with ANY of his other projects on the go.

The bbPress community was a bit rough around the edges and the flame war that ensued forced Matt to break away for a bit.

First, I think this is quite insulting, but that aside, if Matt thought we were rough around the edges, why has there only been 1 moderator on the forums since July last year?

Anyway, I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. This is total and utter bull***. Matt is an awesome bloke, great on so many levels, but have a read at the “FLAME WAR” (haha). It’s here:

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/whats-happening-with-bbpress/page/5

Have you ever seen a nicer and more polite flame war in your life? In fact, don’t you feel (apart from 1 idiot) that this is a crazily civilised conversation??

Honestly, I think it’s a very fascinating read. Especially given that the main posters (the people who posted twice in reply to Matt’s posts) are the current Main Developer and the ONLY Moderator. And in my eyes, that’s the problem.

Matt realised that no-one agreed with him, he wasn’t weighing up arguements and helping solve a problem, he arranged weekly dev meets and IRC chats and disappeared without telling anyone for 4 weeks and came back with sweeping changes and wasn’t happy when people called him out on it.

I like to point this out every now and then:

http://ma.tt/2009/08/kill-your-community/

It’s written by some clever fellow who cares about communities on the internet and knows a thing or two about building great ones around open source software.

• Don’t Moderate.

  Make sure you only have 1 moderator on the forums. Make sure that everyone else with moderator or above status doesn’t visit the forums for a minimum of 6 months.

• Allow Spam Through.

  And make sure that a lot of legitamate posts are caught instead. Only have 1 moderator so that it can go days before real posts are displayed

• Don’t Participate in Comments.

  Less than 20 posts in 7 years? Matt.

  Less than 5 posts in the last 18 months? Trent

  Less than 5 posts in the last year? mdawaffe

  Sam. Would anyone say that Sam was a participant in these forums while he was the lead dev?

• Design Like NASCAR.

  Design’s a tricky/subjective thing. It is/was disappointing to rollout this theme with 30% of the pages not themed, and not tested on the fonts specified making the quite inreadable.

• Abandon Search Engines

  Anyone tried searching on bbPress?

• No Subscriptions

  Email subscriptions plugin was working with bbPress0.9 (and 0.8.3 as I recall, though I might be wrong). Either way, thats over 2 years folks.

• Make People Click Click Click.

  Have you ever tried to moderate your bbPress users?

  Don’t worry, Anonymous Posting is coming instead. WE’ve only had that as a plugin for 2.5 years. But you moderating your forum? Puh-lease. just you clicky click click.

• Treat Everyone the Same.

  1 moderator. Everyone else, regardless of what they do for the project is the same.

• Don’t Ask Anything of Your Audience.

  In fairness both Matt and Sam have had 1 poll each.

  They just abandoned the poll’s voting and reversed decisions at a later date – making the poll useless (actually, it’s kind of worse, it means they asked then ignored us).

I really detest forum posts that attack people personally. I often wonder/worry if my phrasing makes people feel like i’m having a go, when really I don’t mean to. This isn’t about Matt the person – he’s very cool, and I’ve alot of time and respect for him.

This is about the person at the top of the tree making decisions that someone else already pointed out to be a mistake. Those decisions/mistakes result in actions that “kill your community”. It just so happens that both of these people are Matt

[Rootside]

metaboy: Yes.

1. bbPress generally seems to work fine out of the box with 3.0, at least for me and a few others, so that’s looking good

2. I needed zaerl’s plugin for deep integration, ie using WordPress functions/template tags to pull in the WordPress header and footer. I’ve tested it further since, and haven’t encountered any problems.

In fact, only the registration of new users was ever a problem. I had WordPress 3.0 RC and bbPress running for a few days before I even encountered that issue.

[Rootside]

Haha, you absolute star. It works, I just installed and tested it. Thank you so much.

Btw, I think it’s missing the closing ?> declaration

Looks like something stupid is going on, doesn’t it. Do we know why this is happening? My PHP knowledge is just good enough to vaguely tell what’s doing what, but I never understand the bigger picture.

[Rootside]

Oh, thanks…

“Deep Integration” was never intended with bbPress sadly

I don’t know – of course I’d really like to have bbPress “deeply integrated”, and it’s particularly frustrating to see that everything seems to work except for the registration process (and some other, solvable little bits like title tag, current page body tag etc.).

But I would probably agree that deep bbPress integration shouldn’t be a priority for WordPress core development. In that respect, having bbPress as a standalone system that also works inside WordPress may simply be asking too much:

Look at other solutions – they’re either bloated or phenomenally ugly and near impossible to customise, or both. But I’ve tested several of them with WordPress 3.0 RC3, and they all get two things right straight away – integration and shared users, with just a few clicks.

They’re also all plugins…

For now, I’ll have to see if someone finds a way around this problem, or if I’ll have to replicate my WordPress theme for bbPress and leave deep integration alone. Stupid, really.

Then there’s also Justin Tadlock, who is building a forum using nothing but WordPress custom post types and custom taxonomies. Should be interesting to see how that pans out…

I’ll stick this on the WP boards – it seems WordPress 3.0 has been released just a few minutes ago, I’m pretty sure others will run into the same problem.

[Rootside]

Okay, bug hunting is hereby unsuccessfully terminated for the time being:

I installed WordPress 3.0 RC3 and bbPress 1.0.2 in a different subdomain on the same server, and everything works as it should:

I can register new accounts, they show up in WordPress without a role, but as soon as I’ve logged in and posted a reply, I’m mapped as a subscriber in WordPress.

Adding a new user in WordPress works as well, I can hop over to bbPress, log in with the details chosen in WordPress, and post as a member.

Now that I see it working on the same server, I must have made a mistake in the first installation, or it’s a crazy bug. I doubt it had to do with my custom theme, because I switched back to the defaults during testing. However, I’ve only tested the new installation with the defaults, I’ll be back here if anything goes weird…

I’m still slightly uneasy about this of course, because I usually find the bugs or errors, even if I can’t always (okay, rarely) solve or correct them myself. But given that bbPress is BY FAR the best solution for a simple forum on WordPress, I simply had to make it work. Non-intrusive custom themes and Akismet are just two reasons why bbPress is so far ahead of other WordPress integrated solutions; I’ve tested 4 alternatives over the last week or so – OMFG.

The only thing I can offer to others is to try again, following Sam Bauer’s screencast at https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/basic-integration-screencast

(with one addition: when bbPress asks for the cookie salts and you can’t find them on the admin page bbPress links to, copy them from wp-config.php)

[master5o1]

http://tartarus.co.nz/community/topic/welcome

Just look at this post and you will see what I mean. Not sure what’s the problem here. Wasn’t like this on my test server but since it’s gone live this has been the major problem

Quick help is desired.

[kimyang]

help !!!!!!!!

please see here: http://wordpressdevelop.com/poker/forums/

when i click the topic title, “kimyang’s test” for example, it will go to the home page.

how can i fix this problem ?

please help me .

Thanks

Kim

[Gautam Gupta]

Once a milestone is deleted, its tickets are shifted to another milestone and I think there is no way to see the pending tickets on that particular milestone. But, I think there were no tickets for 0.9.0.7 milestone, there were only for 1.0.3 and if the bugs applied to 0.9 branch too, then they were also fixed there. You can view the latest version of 0.9 here – https://trac.bbpress.org/browser/branches/0.9

Also don’t you think that (again) this whole thing would be handled better if we’d been told about it either before hand or at the time?

Yup, I agree with you on this.

[mr_pelle]

I agree with Zaerl. Documentation has been bbPress biggest lack since I knew it. There is also a 3-months-old ticket regarding PHPdoc and coding standards which has never moved on…

I deeply esteem your work, Zaerl: it’s amazing what you were able to do with no documentation at all! And the fact that you consider your latest plugins as “toys” is… wow!

Anyhow, we’d need more people with TRAC permissions to change the website (and to commit 1.0.3/1.1 patches too) and at the moment we just have a few…

I’ll be happy to contribute with my (very little) experience and my (big) free time, but we need to know who stakeholders are, first.

[_ck_]

Actually I guess I will jump ahead and show how to make this into a view because otherwise we won’t have a proper place for it and it will get awkward to test.

This is the mashup I’ve come up with over the years as the “simplest way”. bbPress unfortunately requires a fake, wasted query for it’s views because the original designers wanted you to use their proprietary query method which only deals with topics, so we have to bypass it.

add_action(‘bb_custom_view’,’member_list’);

$fakequery=array(‘started’ => ‘>0′,’append_meta’=>false,’sticky’=>false,’topic_status’=>’all’,’order_by’=>1,’per_page’=>1), false);

bb_register_view(“member-list”,”Member List”,$fakequery);

So there we’ve registered a view called “Member List” that will use the url/tag “?view=member-list” or “view/member-list

http://pastebin.com/embed_iframe.php?i=CbnYfKiy

[wtfmatt]

He didn’t reply to me

NO SURPRISE there huh.

0.9 … 1.0 … 1.1

How is anyone supposed to understand what is going on with all these releases. How can any reasonable and hard working member of the bbpress community still be in support of Matt?

Matt’s claims in IRC were now 6 months ago. You really believe them?

And again I say that TRAC and IRC logs are NOT true “public” records. What is the point of the bbpress forum? Just to test out the software?

AGAIN I PROPOSE:

a) bug the living hell out of Matt until we get answers … or

b) fork bbPress July 2010

Matt already hates/ignores/constantly-lies-to bbPress anyway, so its a no-loss set of options above. He has obviously reached the state of being a super rich, “content” guy who doesn’t give a crap about anything anymore, which is great and congratulations to him, but screw his rudeness and immaturity and let’s arrive at some new plans of action.

I am not attacking citizenkeith or anyone else on a personal level. I’m attacking the users that keep trying to derail this thread and/or these important issues with petty condescending whining. These issues are critical and to employ playground politics is retarded and wastes everyone’s time.

Matt: if you read this, you only have one viable option at this point buddy, which is offer a sincere apology, update the blog, guide the devs to decide on a branch and future plans with WP plugin/standalone options, and INFORM the bbpress community of your decisions…

[chrishajer]

login-less posting is a feature present in the latest trunk release. It’s not packaged for release yet, and there are some dependencies (notably BackPress). If you can download via subversion to your intranet server, that would be the best way to get it.

svn co -r2434 http://svn.automattic.com/bbpress/trunk ./forums

That will check out revision 2434 which is very stable, into a directory called forums on your server.

The revisions after that revision got a little weird with a couple problems that I am not sure are fixed yet.

[_ck_]

Okay I think I found a fix – we simply have to bypass the malfunctioning secure_auth method in 1.x and just use the regular auth cookie. It’s what’s fighting us as soon as it detects SSL mode.

So add this to the bottom of the plugin for 1.x

function bb_validate_auth_cookie( $cookie = '', $scheme = 'auth' ) {

global $wp_auth_object;

return $wp_auth_object->validate_auth_cookie( $cookie, $scheme );

}

Test it carefully of course.

view: http://pastebin.com/embed_iframe.php?i=wSYPsdjT

download: http://pastebin.com/download.php?i=wSYPsdjT

[driz]

If I’m not logged in then that code shows 0 but when I visit the profile page of a user the avatar will change to that of the profile I’m viewing.

If I’m logged in then I get the following mess:

BP_User Object ( [data] => stdClass Object ( [ID] => 1 [user_login] => cameron [user_pass] => $P$B1pN/b8ZvQpPDtPILqpJCPqT4M4F0f/ [user_nicename] => cameron [user_email] => EMAILREMOVED [user_url] => http://www.paperviewmagazine.com/members/cameron/ [user_registered] => 2010-04-16 22:27:31 [user_activation_key] => [user_status] => 0 [display_name] => Cameron [spam] => 0 [deleted] => 0 [aim] => [yim] => [jabber] => [use_ssl] => 0 [nickname] => Cameron [chat_hide] => true [mini_track] => Sat, 12 Jun 2010 04:39:24 -0700 [first_name] => Cameron [description] => This is some information about me [admin_color] => fresh [rich_editing] => true [primary_blog] => 2 [last_activity] => 2010-06-14 14:53:08 [source_domain] => www.paperviewmagazine.com [pvwp_user_level] => 10 [bp_latest_update] => Array ( [id] => 1 [content] => Test status message ) [bb_user_settings] => m0=c&m1=c [pvwp_4_user_level] => 0 [pvwp_1_user_level] => 1 [pvbb_capabilities] => Array ( [keymaster] => 1 [throttle] => 1 ) [capabilities] => Array ( [keymaster] => 1 [throttle] => 1 ) [pvwp_7_user_level] => 0 [pvwp_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [comment_shortcuts] => false [pvwp_6_user_level] => 0 [pvwp_5_user_level] => 0 [pvwp_8_user_level] => 0 [pvwp_2_user_level] => 0 [pvwp_3_user_level] => 0 [pvwp_12_user_level] => 10 [pvwp_user-settings] => m5=c&m6=c&m9=c&m0=c&m10=c&m8=o&m7=c&m1=c&m2=c&editor=tinymce&hidetb=1&m11=c&m3=c&m12=c&m13=c&m4=c [pvwp_13_user_level] => 10 [pvwp_11_user_level] => 10 [pvwp_10_user_level] => 10 [pvwp_1_capabilities] => Array ( [contributor] => 1 ) [pvwp_8_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvbb_topics_replied] => 13 [topics_replied] => 13 [pvwp_6_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_7_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_3_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_4_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_2_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_5_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [bp_liked_activities] => Array ( [1] => activity_liked [3] => activity_liked ) [pvwp_7_user-settings] => m5=c&m6=c&m9=c&m0=c&m10=c&m8=c&m7=c&m1=c&m2=c&editor=tinymce&hidetb=1&m11=c&m3=c&m12=o&m13=c&m4=c [pvwp_11_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_13_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_10_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_12_capabilities] => Array ( [administrator] => 1 ) [pvwp_3_user-settings] => m5=c&m6=c&m9=c&m0=c&m10=c&m8=o&m7=c&m1=c&m2=c&editor=tinymce&hidetb=1&m11=c&m3=o [pvwp_4_user-settings] => m5=c&m6=c&m9=c&m0=o&m10=c&m8=c&m7=c&m1=c&m2=c [pvwp_2_user-settings] => m5=c&m6=c&m9=c&m0=c&m10=c&m8=c&m7=c&m1=c&m2=o&editor=tinymce&hidetb=1&m11=c&m3=c&m12=c&m13=c&m4=c [bb_user_settings_time] => 1276463427 [pvwp_10_user-settings] => m5=c&m6=c&m9=o&m0=c&m10=c&m8=c&m7=c&m1=c&m2=c&editor=tinymce&hidetb=1&m11=o&m3=o&m12=c [screen_layout_dashboard] => 1 [metaboxhidden_dashboard] => Array ( [0] => dashboard_recent_comments [1] => dashboard_incoming_links [2] => dashboard_plugins [3] => dashboard_quick_press [4] => dashboard_recent_drafts [5] => dashboard_primary [6] => dashboard_secondary ) [metaboxhidden_nav-menus] => Array ( [0] => add-post [1] => add-post_tag ) [pvwp_user-settings-time] => 1276464114 [nav_menu_recently_edited] => 3 [meta-box-order_dashboard] => Array ( [normal] => dashboard_right_now,dashboard_recent_comments,dashboard_incoming_links,dashboard_plugins,dashboard_quick_press,dashboard_recent_drafts,dashboard_primary,dashboard_secondary [side] => [column3] => [column4] => ) [pvwp_2_user-settings-time] => 1275215993 [pvwp_7_user-settings-time] => 1275772159 [pvwp_4_user-settings-time] => 1271497216 [closedpostboxes_dashboard] => Array ( ) [pvwp_3_user-settings-time] => 1275065270 [pvwp_10_user-settings-time] => 1274906535 [managenav-menuscolumnshidden] => Array ( [0] => link-target [1] => css-classes [2] => xfn [3] => description ) 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[kevinjohngallagher]

offs – my bad, i’m so sorry.

I mean print_r been swapping languages too much this weekend.

On my version, the avatar I get shown on every page is my own, even other profiles.

I actually haven’t written the code to get teh grey man, just to test/output my own avatar.

[kevinjohngallagher]

The latest version of bbpress0.9 (bbPress0.9.0.7), has been deleted from Trac effectively closing support for the bbPress0.9 branch.

This change (and indeed decision) was made 6 weeks ago.

• No blog post occured.
• No topic was opened.
• No post was made.
• You were not informed of this change.

Thankfully Gautam, who has been doing some amazing and thankless work on the bbPress1.0.3 branch, posted this information 20 posts down into a topic that isn’t fit for ‘sticky status’.

Also check http://trac.bbpress.org/ticket/1174#comment:3

This means that 0.9 branch would no longer be supported.

– Gautam

http://bbpress.org/forums/topic/what-the-heck-is-going-on#post-69869

We thank you Gautam for your exemplary and constant development and your attempts to keep the bbPress community in the loop.

Cheers dude!

[kevinjohngallagher]

… I’ll fire a mail to matt/mdawaffe to get it released.

Gautam,

It’s ace that you know this mate, it really is.

But you’re the only one who knows this. Even ChrisHajer said the other did he didn’t know how this was going to work.

Also check https://trac.bbpress.org/ticket/1174#comment:3

This means that 0.9 branch would no longer be supported.

I think this is a great example of where bbPress is currently failing.

bbpress0.9 support being removed 6 months earlier than planned/reported/promised/stated on this website is actually news that should be posted somewhere. Like a blog post, or even it’s own topic. Instead Matt deleted the 0.9.0.7 branch 6 weeks ago, and the first non-developer members of the community read about it is 20 posts into a topic.

I try and keep an eye on Trac and test nightlies (ok for me it’s weeklies, sorry), but even for me this change by Matt slipped by me. How vigilant do we truly expect average bbPress user to be?

How hard is it to write a blog post, or a topic?

I’m no a fan of this Matt bashing, or anyone bashing, but surely someone/anyone could have posted about this so the community on the whole knew about it? To me, thats a lack of respect.

[mr_pelle]

Just contribute to trac, there are a few tickets pending for 1.0.3 milestone, contribute patches

I wish my bbPress knowledge was better, so that I could commit (good) patches… imho most bbPress community isn’t able to contribute actively with patches, and I’m not talking about newbies. Most of 1.1’s and 1.5’s open tickets are not bugs, but enhancements, requiring deep knowledge of bbPress and of its coding standards (see also this ticket).

As for 1.0.3’s pending tickets, one is not going anywhere till BackPress moves on and the other one is more or less frozen at tellyworth’s 3-weeks-old reply “I’ve tested this briefly and it seems to work”.

EDIT:

Also check https://trac.bbpress.org/ticket/1174#comment:3

This means that 0.9 branch would no longer be supported.

Well, that’s what the Download page said the first time I got here (March ’10): “The previous 0.9 branch of bbPress will be maintained with security related fixes until late 2010”. _ck_, are you really going to catch 0.9 before it falls into oblivion?

[Gautam Gupta]

Just go to Trac and see how active developers are (or were, if you are saying that sambauers wasn’t communicating), discussing issues, fixing bugs etc.

You know, I even received a mail from Matt on May 19 asking if I tested the commit done by mdawaffe (following my reply on this ticket – https://trac.bbpress.org/ticket/1150#comment:15 ).

There’s no point in blaming matt, or anyone or talking about a lead developer/manager. Just contribute to trac, there are a few tickets pending for 1.0.3 milestone, contribute patches, I would test them, chris would commit them and when everything’s fixed, I’ll fire a mail to matt/mdawaffe to get it released.

And if you want me to jump on anyone of the sides (to support Automattic people or to contribute to bbPress), then I wont.

Please close this topic now!

[yoyopop]

really? adding the first tag always makes the full page refresh? Why doesn’t that update with ajax also?

Thanks for the tip for the fix, however I tried with the latest version from trunk and still have this problem.

What are the bb_tags and bb_tagged tables in the database used for? Should mine be empty?