[Michael]

Hi all Hope you’re doing well, not keeping too busy around Christmas (unlike me )

I hope someone can help me here. As some of you know, I run a small Development forum. In this forum I post tutorials and posts with quite a few links. It’s quite irritating that each link opens in the same window, making the user have to return to the forum every time.

Is there a way to make sure that all the links in a post open up in a new window? I tried doing it manually in a post, but it trimmed the target="_blank" from the code. I also have BBCode Lite installed. I did try editing that code, but with no success. There’s obviously something in the core that I need to change. Anyone know where it is?

Thanks in advance – and have a lovely Christmas!

Michael

[paamayim]

Just an update, I read elsewhere that this is deprecated in latest WP versions:

require_once dirname(dirname(__FILE__)) . '/wp-blog-header.php';

This should be used instead:

require_once dirname(dirname(__FILE__)) . '/wp-load.php';

[paamayim]

This is so annoying guys

What’s the cleanest solution to this, for WP 2.8.6 installed in / and bbPress 1.0.2 installed in /forum/ ?

Thanks very much, indexing is vital to me.

[hpguru]

Seems you use Kakumei?

Open header.php (theme)

Found <div id="header" role="banner">

Add something like after the code above <a class="bloglink" href="http://yourblog.com/">« My blog homepage</a>

Found theme style.css and open

Add something like this

a.bloglink {

font-size: 13px;

}

[Gautam]

Hey folks,

Just ported a WordPress theme (which is here) to bbPress (which is here).

It is a spanish website of my client named Severus Online Club, so just wanted to share it.

All suggestions are welcomed.

[Casemon]

re: “pickle”

suggest removing the bb-config change you made until you get these other things sorted out

[Casemon]

In the mean time you can just pass the size via the avatar call…

<?php post_author_avatar_link($size='100'); ?>

[stulynn]

Now I’m in a pickle. I cannot visibly see an admin screen for bbpress and therefore I can’t login to try to make changes. I did add this path in bb-config

$bb->uri = ‘http://your-domain-name.com/forum-path/’;

(after key codes) and it’s done nothing. My folder in file manager has been changed from bbpress to forum. I tried to change it back but because I can’t get into bbpress admin I can’t change the admin link. Right now I’d be happy to go back to bbpress and not forum and believe you me when I say I’ll become backup queen.

Can anyone please help?!!

[bb-lover]

Good Michael…..

I’ll tell u abt it… after using ur scipt

stay connect

[hpguru]

I do this. No help to this problem.

[af3]

My mom is on facebook, so does my 60yrs old auth and uncle… and they are all living on the island of Borneo (googling it would probably show up among ‘the remaining lost world on earth’). So I got 3 ppl for my hard stats

I’m using WPMU+Buddypress and integrated with bbpress — since there are facebookconnect plugins for WPMU, and now facebook plugin specific for WPMU+BP, my installation of bbpress on WPMU+BP becomes the odd one. While BP is now with its own forum system, I have more reasons to abandon bbpress; yet I do hope facebook-enabled bbpress would make me continue to use this.

[hpguru]

Hi, i have very good bbPress forum. I like bbPress. I am use a bbPress 1.0.2 but i may found 1 new bug.

I go to my bbPress dashboard and see posts count, thats say: 4024 posts.

Then i go to bb-admin/posts.php and i see 1 – 20 / 4,121. This mean i have 4121 posts on my forum.

I try recounting without any help to this problem.

My plugins now:

Akismet

Human Test For bbPress

Topics Per Page

bbSmilies (maybe smilies from WordPress plugin, i change it name, when i modified smilies codes)

[Michael]

Alternatively, you could make a PHP file that has something like this as content, instead of using iFrames:

<?php bb_get_header(); ?>



/* Your PHP script goes here */



<?php bb_get_footer(); ?>

This file would be saved in your template folder (with a funky name if you wish – the user will never see the name).

Then you would create a file in the forum root, with the following contents:

<?php require_once('my-templates/xxxxxx/page1.php ?>

You would then save that file with the name you want people to access it with, such as information.php.

Much more reliable than iFrames. I, personally, will never use them.

[Michael]

It’s really nice to see some creative (yet minimal) themes for bbPress.

This is great!

[Michael]

I see this is an old thread, but I’ll explain anyway. I also see that subtlegusto has moved to phpBB.

The difference in URI’s is this:

When logging out of the admin panel, the re tells the script to go back to the forum itself (after logging out).

When logging out of the forum, it doesn’t need to change the page. All it needs to do is delete the login cookies, which is what logout=1 is for. That’s why there’s no re in the path.

I don’t see why an error like that would appear – but it could possibly be that the installation was corrupt (least likely) or that permissions for the file may have been incorrect.

[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

There’s also an accountability aspect to all this.

In my opinion, a goodly portion of the reason you run your OWN forum, rather than pay some other site to host, code etc one for you, is that YOU remain responsible and accountable for YOUR code and your visitors. Any SLA/Terms of Use you come up with are yours, and you can make the final decisions on what is and isn’t okay.

Why would you remove that, just for FaceBook?

OpenID is … a little different, though I’m still not sold on the efficacy of it. I have LJ, WordPress and a myriad of other sites I can choose to log in through. I’m still relying on them… I don’t know how I feel a out that in the long run.

[grassrootspa]

@ chrishajer, just curious, have you had any issue with your 3 forums’ bbPress registration emails hitting folks’ spam folks? Had this issue with Yahoo, gmail, hotmail and other emails accounts. (It’s still not 100% resolved with all email accounts)

I must confess, this was initially a bit of a headache for this server newbie. (People complain that the registration doesn’t work, others don’t say anything and give up on the site at that point thinking the software doesn’t work) This really isn’t a problem with bbPress, but it is a tough issue to figure out when you are just learning the LAMP ropes. Thank goodness for knowledgeable server buddies!

Not sure if this explains anything, but this is one of the reasons (a minor one) why this LAMP newbie like the idea of allowing others ways to login like FB Connect…(it eliminates that potentially-troublesome email verification step and allows them to jump right in).

BTW, I would be ecstatic is FB Connect emerged as a plugin first and the next bbPress release focused on other things like integration, some cool new features, etc. You are a good salesman.

[Sam Bauers]

I just want to set the record straight a little here as some things have been said that aren’t accurate.

The flaming that Matt has received from @sadness above is unwarranted, unsubstantiated and quite cowardly.

I left Automattic to pursue my own interests both within and outside of the web development world. This was my own decision, there was no pressure from Matt or anyone at Automattic to leave. Before I left Automattic I talked with Matt about a bunch of possible directions for bbPress and my own options within the company. Whilst a lot of the ideas we discussed would make for interesting and important work, I didn’t feel passionate about it, and I was feeling a little burnt out after about 10 years of web development work.

_ck_ was always a constructive critic of bbPress. I always gave her plenty of my time so that she could fulfil that role. In the absence of a full-time lead on the project to hear that input I imagine that she felt her contribution in that regard was limited. It’s not that Matt isn’t good at listening, it’s just that he’s about 100 times busier than a full-time lead would be.

I’d also like to chime in on the future development path of bbPress a little. The idea of moving to becoming a canonical plugin I think is the only sensible way forward for bbPress. bbPress needs a bigger user base to be viable as a product. A big problem in the past has been justifying changes in WordPress for the benefit of bbPress, so the more users there are of bbPress the more accommodating WordPress will be in that regard.

WordPress development moves really fast, it was (and will be) totally inefficient to spend time and energy maintaining compatibility with WordPress as a stand alone product, when bbPress can get all that stuff for free as a plugin. There is a ton of common code between WordPress and bbPress now (mostly in the form of BackPress). That should all go away. The PHP framework is WordPress. The only issue is bloat for those using bbPress as a standalone product. WordPress + bbPress plugin will be a lot of code, and will probably be slower than bbPress 1.0 (and almost certainly slower than 0.9). But by hooking into WordPress, a lot of the work that has been done and that will be done in the future to speed it up will be gained. It’s a case of “two steps forward, one step back” but I think it’s the right decision for the project.

Although there was a lot of effort put into BackPress/bbPress 1.0, a whole lot of that work has ended up in WordPress, so it won’t be wasted development. The best vehicle going forward is the canonical plugin route. I suggest that the community gets behind that plan.

[chrisjdavisorg]

I was informed by the support folks at $work that the support forums I built for them were broken. After some investigation I found that all the user accounts, including the original admin account are showing up in the admin as Inactive (no role).

How in the world did this happen exactly? The accounts are migrated from an existing non bbpress db upon login, and we don’t send the new user email. Is there a step that I missed somewhere that stops the accounts from being deactivated after a timeout? e.g. Is there an account verification step that I wasn’t aware of that has now been tripped, deactivating all the accounts?

Really lost here as to where to do next. All the role data in the usermeta table is fine, and I can’t find any references to any verification process in the code. Any help out there?

[grassrootspa]

@ (my affable sparring partner) kevinjohngallagher:

1) re: the 350 million facebook users, there was just a story on Mashable ‘Facebook’s Road to 350 Million Users’: (http://mashable.com/2009/12/02/facebook-350-million-users/)

“Mark Zuckerberg’s note detailing Facebook’s latest privacy changes also contained an announcement about another important milestone for Facebook: 350 million users.”

Facebook’s own website: (http://www.facebook.com/press/info.php?statistics):”‘More than 350 million active users”

I’m just going with what they said

2) I don’t have official ‘stats’ but can tell you Facebook connect is put to use on my site (I run Intense Debate, which offers various ways folks can leave comments). Twitter connect is occasionally as well (but not as much as FB connect) My general point is this: it’s optional and it and brings new folks into the discussion. IntenseDebate was smart to incorporate several different optional login methods! From my standpoint, I am very happy to offer FB connect to my readers

3) “So, who are these magical little elves that are going to build and then maintain all these features??” (BTW, I too am a South Park fan so I immediately got your reference):

Build and maintain all those features? You are missing my point…if existing popular plugins like ‘topic views’ or ‘bbcode’ are built into the core a third party no longer needs to maintain the plugin and make sure they don’t break in bbPress 1.0, bbPress 1.1, etc. They are STANDARDIZED and can be further fleshed out! (WordPress example: Just like WordPress did with the automatic updater and ability to thread comments…) _ck_ came up with some really slick and widely used plugins, and she is probably won’t be maintaining them from here on out. Maybe stuff like ‘BBcode Buttons’ should continue as a Core features?

Even though we both disagree on some of these things, we both want the same thing…bbPress to be more widely used & developed and the bbpress community to grow (those that make plugins, templates, etc). I would also like to see bbPress to emerge as a vBulletin alternative.

Again, things like Voices, gravatars, profile pics, profile occupation and location, tags etc could have all been simply left as plugins, but they were incorporated into the core. My overall point (forget FB connect for a sec) is that things like Voices, gravatars, profile pics, profile occupations, location, and other features are part of the core and that is a very good thing! It makes it easier for bbPress to be more widely used because a separate plugin is not needed for each (good for newbies, stability, and so community can further flesh them out via plugins or themes) There is less danger of those features breaking (they are now features of the Core, not separate plugins). The use of those features is standardized so plugins and themes can be developed to make use of those features without requiring a plugin to use each.

In a nutshell, I think things like bbcode, topic views, and some other plugins should sit alongside Voices, gravatars, etc as features that should be incorporated into the Core.

kevinjohngallagher, I love your passion. I am someone who is probably not as skilled as you are with computers and technology (17FB accounts…you sound busy!) I’m not a developer, just some newbie that taught himself how to run WordPress and bbPress by messing around with the stuff.

We aren’t going to agree on Facebook-connect (it’s a tougher sell than some of the others), but I would wager that there is probably a popular plugin or two that you might also agree should logically be part of the core for stability and out-of-the-box-feature issues. Thoughts?

[chrishajer]

Nice new Avatar, Nightgunner5

[kevinjohngallagher]

@GrassRootsPA

Sir,

We don’t agree on these things, but its very cool we can discuss them openly, and in a manner such as this. My hats off to ya’.

On my site I offer Twitter and FB login via IntenseDebate and get people to use them all the time for commenting.

That’s awesome. Could you garnish us with some figures please mate, because the other figures and stats that i could find (Alexa etc.) all point to a poor take up of FBconnect, and a very low “new user” clickthrough – unless replying to a post from facebook (have to get that caveat in there because those stas look good).

Number of Users?

Number of Users who used to signing normally and now use FBconnect?

Number of Users who have never signed in normally but have only used FBconnect?

That would be really useful to us all i think, to put it in context.

You may call it the flavor of the week, but Facebook has more than 350 million active users.

It doesn’t, it has over 200million unique accounts, but it doesn’t have even 200million unique people (i personally run 17 FB accounts between myself, my company, and the charities i help out).

Dont get me wrong, the site is both huge and popular, but its not gotten the number of people that some folks claim. Heck according to Facebook’s Mark Z in February, when it overtook MySpace as the #1 social networking site in the US (again – in the US), that half of its userbase logs in once a day, and 80% of its userbase logs in at least once a month. Now in the month that it overtook MySpace, Alexa claims for 350million page views, its imply cant have 350million people. But that slightly off-topic, so lets bring it back.

If number of possible users is the main positive for FacebookConnect then it fails, as it actually comes 4th. So does that mean we should build FBconnect after writing the other 3 into the core? Or are we going with FBconnect because you use it…

1. GoogleFreindFinder (or whatever its new branding is: apparently GoogleSingleSignon) has access to everyone with a (specific type of) gmail account and everyone on Okurt – it covers a ridiculous number of people (worldwide).
2. MSN passport has access to everyone with an MSN or Yahoo email address for single signin.
3. MySpace uses OpenID so OpenID has access to the third most users.
4. Facebook comes in fourth (and there’s a big big gap betwen 3rd and 4th)

Also, its not so much that Facebook is the “flavour of the month”, its just that we’ve seen this all before. The dominant website in its field, looks like no-one will ever topple it and BAM, yesterdays news. The long you spent developing for the internet (this is my 15th paid year), the more you see the simple fact that content is what engages people, regardless of systems or context.

The reason we’re so adamant about this subject is not because we’re being stubborn, its because we’ve had this conversation before. We had it with AoL, we had it when Microsfot rolled out MyPasspost/Hailstorm, we had it when Microsfot rolled out Live, we had it with OpenID, we had it with myspace, We had it with GoogleSingleSignon. I, and in deed we, are not knocking Favebook or FBconnect – its just that its software owned and maintained by a company outwith BBpress, and sooner or later they are going to dip in popularity or make such a large change to the API that the standard BBpress will fail with no notice.

We know this, becuse they already did it 3 times this year

Imagine (as a user…please separate yourself from the admin process) visiting a forum and knowing you can immediately log in and join the discussion with your FB account.

1) You’re going to need a facebook account. There are not as many people with FB accounts as i think you think there are. Not to mention, Non-white, Non-North-America, Non-College-Educated, Non-Under-25s, Non-broadband-users are FAR FAR FAR less likely to have one (80% of FB users tick all those boxes).

2) If you are so engrossed/captivated/moved by the content of a forum post that you feel the need to add to the conversation, is registering really a deterant? As a user, if i really want to comment/reply/converse, i usually see what the registration process is like. I know from my phpBB forums, the drop off after the registration page is loaded is HUGE, and the drop off after a failed registration is over90%. I suggest you check your stats too. Alot more poeple go to registration pages than its presumed, but the registering process is where it ends.

3) Surely, if registration is the problem, our time is better suited on making that easier for the user.

4) Purely from an end user perspective (and not an admin), i dont want to use FBconnect, i can just use anonymous posting and thats the even easier option! FBconnect is a half way house for you as both a user and an admin, but it requires a massive amount of work for the BBpress team – again for a feature that not common, not worldwide, nor often-used.

Matt’s made a comments re: bbPress and forums a while back along the lines that forums really haven’t changed that much in the past ten years. Exactly. Allow stuff like FB connect to encourage conversations and bring them into the next century!

Surely good conversation and topics encourage conversations and not FBconnect. I doubt many people find a forum very boring, but feel compelled to join in just because the website lets them log in via FBconnect.

You know, when somethings been the same for a long time (is basic, usable without too much instruction, and does exaclty what it says on the tin) there usually isn’t a whole lot you can do to make it better; and on the rare occasion when there is… its usually come form a total overhaul and not adding to the original.

I say that because much smarter people than you and I have been using Forums for a greater number of years that either of us, and no-one has yet came up with a better format. There’s an inate desire in humans to make things better, but that does not mean that something can always be improved greatly simply because its worked the same way for a great amount of time.

Also, single signons became availible last century, heck last millenium, and they didn’t take off in the last 10 years because people didn’t want or like them; so somehow integrating FBconnect isn’t going to magically make forums current or “this century”.

I do not understand the opposition to making FB’s core more robust feature wise.

What is the harm in including additional features

We’ve had 1 developer (working close to part-time) on BBpress for 2 years.

We’ve had NO developer working on BBpress since July 15th.

The two main plugin suppliers have left the project.

The wiki / developer documentation is now a loans/spam/porn website

So, who are these magical little elves that are going to build and then maintain all these features??

It kind of reminds me of the Gnomes in South Park http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnomes_(South_Park).

1. Features

2. ???

3. Kill vBulletin

It seems like step 2, the bit where the work actually comes in, is just presumed to happen magically. Which is the only way it would happen, given that right now our development team consists of… no-one.

Adding more features to the core standardizes those features so they do not break in future builds

Adding thigns to the core doesn’t automatically stabalise them, a developer stablises them.

Again, that developer is currently… no-one.

Thats the issue BBpress has had for the last year. Sam added loads of things to the core, changed loads of functions, hardcoded alot of template functions into the core, and has now gone without telling anyone until months after (N.B. This was Sam’s pain emplyment, and is not a criticism of the man himself – merely a statement of the facts).

These things dont stabalize themselves, they need development, and adding them to the core does not guarentee that, all it does is guarenteee that time is taken away form other things.

allows even better plugins to be unveiled to customize them further.

BBpress 1.0.2 has bee a stable RC release for over 6 months now. Where are all these plug-ins? Where are all the plugin developers rushing to add functionality? Where are all the massively different customisations? *tumbleweed*

Let’s help bbPress evolve and become more robust featurewise so it buries vBulletin

Robust is the polar opposite of harcoding reliance on an extrnal and ever-changing API into core.

And mate, we’re not here to bury vBulletin, thats not the goal; we’re here to make forum software in accordance with the Philosphy and Features on the about page. IF you’re ever wondering if something fits into BBpress, always check https://bbpress.org/about/ and see if it fits into those 5 design philosophies. If it doesn’t, chances are, it wont be going into BBpress.

Take care, and good health.

Kev

[Ben L.]

http://www.google.com/support/googleanalytics/bin/answer.py?answer=161379 and http://code.google.com/apis/analytics/docs/tracking/asyncTracking.html might help you – The pages load faster if GA is loaded via ajax.

[nickstevens]

@gerikg: I had pretty much given up on this an age ago after trying every listed trick on these forums at the time. Your solution worked flawlessly, so thank you very much!

[Olaf Lederer]

According Google most of my sites are slower than the rest according google, but the problem is mostly the google analytics code which takes a lot of time:

They suggest:

Enable gzip compression

Compressing the following resources with gzip could reduce their transfer size by 19.9 KB:

(what I have for my own server)

and check the load time for GA:

http://www.google-analytics.com/ga.js (13.6 KB)

will say I will stop using Google (analytics) my site becomes much faster

If 60-70% of the sites are much faster maybe only ~30 are using slow “google” code on their site?