[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

OpenSource Project ‘management’ is generally terrifying to people used to the rigid structure found in most medium to large businesses. It’s very similar to small company PM, though, and works well for what it is, even though it looks insane and weird and entirely ‘wrong’ to the outside viewer.

Of course the reverse is true as well. The very organized, rigid, PM plans for large companies and projects often are impossible to fit in an OpenSource project and make the people used to the larger ones cry.

It’s just how it is.

[mpih]

Hi guys

If I install and use Simple LDAP plugin for WordPress, and also install bbPress, is bbPress also automatically synchronized with the LDAP/users, og do I need to have a seperate LDAP plugin for bbPress?

Thanks for any answers in advance

[Matt Mullenweg]

We’ve done this before. Relax.

[ipunkbali]

ok, i did that, now the bbpress background has a conflict with wp. all turned into white, and the login form is missing

[citizenkeith]

@ buddha trance While I’m hoping this thread will help with plugin development, it really is a selfish thread so i can speed some of these plugins up.

Things are looking good though… I’m really surprised that a lot of _ck_’s plugins are working, especially the ones in my “not sure if it works” list. She was pretty adamant that they needed to be updated.

[citizenkeith]

That’s going to save me a lot of time! Thanks John!!!

[johnhiler]

Hey CitizenKeith… do you have a diff program like Beyond Compare?

http://www.scootersoftware.com/download.php

You can compare Kakumei to your current theme, to isolate exactly what’s changed… then update your theme with whatever changes look “suspicious”.

It’s saved me on more than one occasion!

[Ben L.]

For the URL problem, go into PHPMyAdmin and use the SQL tab to query for SELECT * FROM bb_meta WHERE meta_key = 'uri' AND object_type = 'bb_option'. Then, you can click the edit button and fix that part.

As for the other problem, there’s no real way to figure it out until you fix the URL one.

[nerieru]

Ok here’s the list:

Working:

Admin add user

Admin can post anything

After the dealine

Ajaxed Quote

Allow Images

Approve user registration

Auto add favorites

Bavatars

bb-benchmark

bb-lightbox2

bbcode buttons toolbar

bbcode lite

bbpm

bbpress mobile edition

bbpress moderation suite

bbpress polls

bbpress private messaging

bbpress recent replies

bbpress signatures

bbRatings

bbSocialize

bb Topic Views

bbVideo

Best Answer

check for updates

fix admin access

forum restriction

hidden forums

hot topic

ignore member

indicate new posts

report post

quote

reputation (karma) for bbpress

show top posters

simple onlinelist

subscribe to topic

super search

support forum

topic icons

use display name – if you’re using wp, edit the file, change BB_Users to wp_users

user timezones

wordpress latest post

Not working:

bb anonymous posting

Graphic user rank

wiki post (this resulted in my admin section turning into a complete whitepage, if this happens to you go to your mysql database and go to bb_meta and then bb_option active_plugins and remove the text just before wiki and till

Also please note that I’m working on a theme and getting everything integrated in there.

[chrishajer]

This is correct assuming the file is actually there, (not the http style):

/home/metroadv/public_html/justinbieberzone/wp-blog-header.php

[karlbaillie25]

Yeah, I suppose I will have the current version, however its the updates and so on of a opensource project that give it its appeal.

The thought of drafting in a coder to fix any holes that may develope/security breaches that could be found doesnt fill me with confidence, though do you reckon the current version available would be ready to use and leave un-maintained for a fair while at least?

As you can probs tell, im not the best when it comes to PHP, however I do try at least.

[johnhiler]

Just edit the first post in your topic/thread… that will allow you to edit the title.

[karlbaillie25]

Be better going over to the phpbb forums to ask this question

[ipunkbali]

I just change that, but now all background is white. and the footer is kinda shrinking (shorter)

I have another question about adding require_once(‘path/to/wp-blog-header.php’); into bb-config.php.

I put this form, is this valid? /home/metroadv/public_html/justinbieberzone/wp-blog-header.php or it should be http://www. form?

helpp

[Michael]

arpowers: Your theme(s) will get very popular if you make them BuddyPress ready. I, for one, will definitely buy your StationPro theme-set for my community site, Dev:station.

The whole idea for me is to have a blog, common forums, user forums, and member interaction zones (BuddyPress). I think your theme will bring it through just perfectly.

One suggestion by the way: I see the line-height for the tag cloud is to small, thus making each line overlap. Personally, I think it degrades the theme. Even if you don’t fix it; I will buy it when the time comes.

Nice work.

[Michael]

If seen numerous forums with the same problem.

It seems the link to your CSS for the forum is wrong. I may be incorrect on this, but that’s where the background is declared. You have this:

/home/metroadv/public_html/justinbieberzone/forums/bb-templates/kakumei/style.css

It should be this

http://www.justinbieberzone.com/forums/bb-templates/kakumei/style.css

See if that makes a difference.

[ipunkbali]

Ok, I have inserted it. nothing change tho, the forum theme still look different with the main blog.

[chrishajer]

It goes in bb-config.php, not wp-config.php, but I’d put it right at the top, after the opening <?php:

<?php

require_once('path/to/wp-blog-header.php');

/**

The path/to/wp-blog-header.php it not to be typed literally. It will be a filesystem path, something that is dependent on where WordPress is installed on your server. Be sure you change the path to the correct value for your installation.

[ipunkbali]

i Read somewhere

“In order to do it, you need to put require_once(‘path/to/wp-blog-header.php’); in bbPress’ bb-config.php (wp-blog-header is in the same directory as WordPress’ wp-config.php file).”

Where do I exactly insert this code in wp-config.php file?: require_once(‘path/to/wp-blog-header.php’); ??

This is what i see in my wp-config.php file. Thanks

<?php

/**

* The base configurations of bbPress.

*

* This file has the following configurations: MySQL settings, Table Prefix,

* Secret Keys and bbPress Language. You can get the MySQL settings from your

* web host.

*

* This file is used by the installer during installation.

*

* @package bbPress

*/

// ** MySQL settings – You can get this info from your web host ** //

/** The name of the database for bbPress */

define( ‘BBDB_NAME’, ‘metroadv’ );

/** MySQL database username */

define( ‘BBDB_USER’, ‘metroadv’ );

/** MySQL database password */

define( ‘BBDB_PASSWORD’, ‘xxxxxx’ );

/** MySQL hostname */

define( ‘BBDB_HOST’, ‘localhost’ );

/** Database Charset to use in creating database tables. */

define( ‘BBDB_CHARSET’, ‘utf8’ );

/** The Database Collate type. Don’t change this if in doubt. */

define( ‘BBDB_COLLATE’, ” );

/**#@+

* Authentication Unique Keys.

*

* Change these to different unique phrases!

* You can generate these using the {@link https://api.wordpress.org/secret-key/1.1/bbpress/ WordPress.org secret-key service}

*

* @since 1.0

*/

define( ‘BB_AUTH_KEY’, ‘put your unique phrase here’ );

define( ‘BB_SECURE_AUTH_KEY’, ‘put your unique phrase here’ );

define( ‘BB_LOGGED_IN_KEY’, ‘put your unique phrase here’ );

define( ‘BB_NONCE_KEY’, ‘put your unique phrase here’ );

/**#@-*/

/**

* bbPress Database Table prefix.

*

* You can have multiple installations in one database if you give each a unique

* prefix. Only numbers, letters, and underscores please!

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topic_author

[kevinjohngallagher]

I’m really confused. I’ve read the IRC chat meetings (not sure why it took 13 days to post them but anyway), and I have to say that I’m really confused.

Right off the bat I hold my hands up to very little development outside of customising WordPress and writing BBpress plugins in the last 2 years, so this is all from a Project Management / BA perspective.

• Your 3 biggest tags from posts are: WordPress, Integration, Plugin.
• Every week, you have more posts on WordPress integrations thatn any other single topic.
• You advertise as one of your key features “wordpress integration”.
• You hold a poll to see what features people want, “wordpress integration” tops it. Infact it wins with 50% of the votes, or 520% more votes than its nearest competitor.

Now, seems to me, that the top priority in terms of new features, documentation and communication should be fairly obvious.

[21:28 GMT] <photomatt> 1. bug fixes

[21:29 GMT] <photomatt> 2. email notification

[21:29 GMT] <photomatt> 3. anon comments from filosofo

And obviously that’s… Email notifications? No… wait… Anonymous Comments?

=============================================

From a Project Management standpoint, here’s the problem:

• BBpress0.9 has both of these features as working plugins. But it cant integrate with WordPress.
• BBpress1.0.2 doesn’t have these features, but can integate with WordPress. (Can anyone confirm that 1.0.2 integrates with 2.9.1 out of the box? – I can’t get it to work)
• So now we’re working on BBpress1.1 which will have these 2 very important features working but may or may not integrate with WordPress.

If BBpress 1.1 doesn’t integrate with WP2.9.1 (or the latest point release at the time of BBpress1.1’s release) or heaven forbid WordPress 3.0… then it’s exactly the same position as BBpress0.9 – just two years down the line and with less plugins working. We’ll have features we had 2 years ago and still not be able to integrate BBpress and WP. All we’ll have done is move 2 plugins into the core – and that’s really all we’ll have done in 2 years.

I’m not quite sure if this analogy fits across the world but in PMI terms (and I think Prince2 if you’re a European like myself) this is called “building a House on Sand”. Adding a turret aint going to help when the tide comes in (or a new version of WP is released).

=============================================

If I move this away from features a minute (as everyone wants different features and I want to make this an abstract point not a specific one).

When will BBpress1.1 be ready?

I’m not looking for an exact date, we all know that’s impossible for any project like this, but roughly when will it be ready – any good PM knows this.

If there’s no bugs, and email subscription is working, that leaves Anonymous Comments to convert, +testing + release etc. Either way, I’m sure Matt has a rough idea in his head about how long until 1.1, even if it’s a ballpark figure. (Matt, im not expecting you to give us even a rough date as people will only keep you to it, and that’s not the sort of pressure you need right now/at all).

So, when is WordPress 3.0 coming out? What is the likely-hood, given both WP and BBpress’ history, that any existing integration will no longer work with WP3.0? Would it be too pessimistic to think its at least 50/50 that it’ll break?Is it too optomistic to think its 100% likely to work first time?

If we take the best case scenario, that BBpress1.0.2 works seamlessly with WP2.8, WP2.9 & WP3.0 and that BBpress1.1 works seamlessly with WP2.9 & WP3.0 – what’s going to happen to BBpress once we hit 1.1? Matt’s the sole developer, and there’s no way he’s not going to be involved in some format in WP3.0 not to mention all the WordPress Camps and the usual stuff.

It either means that BBpress gets handed over to someone else (again), or there’s a large amount of time between BBpress 1.1 and BBpress1.2 as WP3.0 has to be developed and released in between them. Given that BBpress1.1 is effectively cosmetic (2 features with used to work now working again), are we seriously looking at over a year between releases with new functionality?

And that’s the best case scenario!

Even if BBpress 1.1 does integrate nicely with 2.9, what if it doesn’t integrate with WP3.0? Are we going to get a patch or a plugin for BBpress 1.1 to make it work with WP3.0 if it doesn’t integrate? Will BBpress integration be Matt’s priority once WP3.0 comes out, given that 1) heck its not a priority now and 2) the plan is to make BBpress a Canonical Plugin from 1.2(-ish) ?

[21:26 GMT] <photomatt> bbPress will definitely be a WP plugin

[21:26 GMT] <photomatt> but don’t want to change the data structure decision until 1.2-ish

No, if BBpress 1.02 or BBpress1.1 don’t integrate with WP2.9 or WP3.0 is Matt or Automattic (cos i’m not wanting to pin this on Matt the person) going to suddenly reverse its decision and make BBpress integration a company priority? Of course not, that makes no sense.

Realistically, its integrate it now, or accept it ain’t going to be integrated.

=============================================

This post looks rather doom and gloom, and I’m sorry for that, it’s not my intention. Here is my intention: Any Project Manager worth his/her salt would look at the above scenario with scepticism/fear/consider-quitting

Spending time developing software to hit a target that has 1) moved since first developed (WP2.7 -> WP2.9) and 2) will move again (WP2.9->WP3.0) soon after the software is released is, respectfully, lunacy.

This madness is then going to be compounded by rewriting the software in less than 6 months time? Then what is the upside/point of BBpress1.1?

The return of 2 features? The galvanising of the forum? BBpress has bloated in size since 0.9, moved away from what it was originally coded for, and lost useful functionality in the process. Going further down this path simply to rewrite it (mostly) as a WP plugin after 3.0 is out defies logic.

The only upside is if you can guarantee that BBpress1.1 can integrate with the latest version of WP and the release after that. Otherwise we’re developing software that has a shelf life of 3-4 months at most. Of course that can’t be guaranteed as WordPress Integration isn’t being worked into BBpress1.1.

If WP3.0 is being worked upon just now, if its in the early Project Management / Scoping stages, why isn’t the idea mooted that BBpress be reworked now as a Canonical Plugin?

The people that use BBpress now, for the most part, aren’t going anywhere. If we’re here now, we’re locked in to its current form – and we’ve already had to accept that keeping our system secure by keeping up to date with WP is not going to happen, we’ve accepted the last 6 months-ish of no updates.

BBpress’s major setback has been the fact that it’s on a different release cycle to WordPress and that integration has never been easy, simple, straightforward and infact that integration documentation has never been written.

By developing BBpress1.1 independent of WP3.0, we confine ourselves to a project that promotes itself with one major selling point that it doesn’t live up to; not to mention waste development time and turn people away from the project.

The BBpress project is/”was 6 weeks ago” at its lowest point, development had stalled for 6 months, the developer had quit, moderators had quit, plugin developers had quit, integration doesn’t work, plugins don’t work, information on the website is hideously wrong/out of date/wrong/misleading/wrong, the documentation website is now a porn links website etc etc etc.

From a PM/BA point of view, that’s the perfect time to start scoping and moulding the software to where you want to take it.

Hold up your hands and say “sorry its gotten like this, we dropped the ball, lets do this in a way we wanted to”. Don’t be tied into the same mistakes by chasing the dragon of “just one more release then we’ll fix integration”.

If you want BBpress to be a WP plugin, now is the time to develop for that. Take the code that works and run with it, don’t let history repeat itself with the idea of adding more and more to paper over the cracks – when WP updates or Plugins don’t work those cracks are very obvious.

<br />

WP:---2.3

2.5

2.6

2.7

2.8

2.9

3.0?

<br />

BB:

0.9

1.0a

1.0

1.1?

1.2?<br />

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it – George Santayana

=============================================

Matt,

please please please read your own blogs: Setting Scope

What’s our proposal? We take a page from the world of project management and we make a project plan before we jump into the dev cycle.

As an open source project, we accomplish more when we work together than we do following individual agendas, and we need to keep our project focused on commonly-agreed-upon goals instead of following tangents…

Surely, as i stated at the start, the commonly agreed goal is WordPress Integration:

• Your 3 biggest tags from posts are: WordPress, Integration, Plugin.
• Every week, you have more posts on WordPress integrations thatn any other single topic.
• You advertise as one of your key features “wordpress integration”.
• You hold a poll to see what features people want, “wordpress integration” tops it. Infact it wins with 50% of the votes, or 520% more votes than its nearest competitor.

While “instead of following tangents whenever a community member starts to take us on one, regardless of whether it’s to follow a cool idea that everyone loves” is:

• email notification
• Anonymous Posting

=============================================

Thank you all for reading, i know its not a short post,

Take care.

[gr0x0rd]

The issue is being caused by the following line of code in bb-login.php:

$re = bb_get_uri( $re , null, BB_URI_CONTEXT_HEADER );

before this function call, $re = /subdir/bbpress . Afterward, $re = http://mysite.org/subdir/bbpress/subdir/bbpress/ . Either there is a bug in this function or something is wrong with my configuration.

Commenting out this line has fixed the redirection issue upon login, however, I still do not have access to the Admin area.

As someone who has written a number of forums in the past, I was really hoping for a turnkey solution with bbpress. I hope someone can provide an answer as to why I cannot access the administration area before I have to take the time to dig through the code for answers myself…

Thanks in advance for any help or guidance.

~g

[chrishajer]

From what I understand, bbPress is basically already included in BuddyPress.

From here: https://bbpress.org/blog/2009/12/2009-12-09-meetup/

[13:55] <jjj> junsuijin is right again. Frankly apeatling has already made bbPress a plugin, it’s just part of BuddyPress that includes all of the extra social things that forums have; profiles, pms, friends, etc…

[13:56] <apeatling> If the integration code is extracted from BuddyPress and moved into bbPress then we could get it integrating with one click tomorrow.

[13:56] <apeatling> it’s not a lot of code

So maybe it’s not really truly inside BuddyPress already, but parts of it are. I don’t use BuddyPress so I can’t comment first hand, just repeat what I’ve seen elsewhere.

[citizenkeith]

Hello folks,

It’s my hope that this thread can help move bbPress Plugin development forward. I’m not a programmer but I use bbPress for two different sites. One site is running v0.9.0.6 and the other is running v1.0.2.

I am considering upgrading my 0.9 forum to 1.0.2, since development is beginning to move forward, and some plugins are getting updated. Before making that decision, I decided to go through all the plugins I currently use in 0.9 and see if they have been updated, or in the very least, tweaked by current users. My method for checking this was to read through all the plugin threads for comments or tweaks, and to test some in my 1.0.2 forum.

I broke my list down to five separate lists:

1) Plugins that work

2) Plugins that work, with some bugs (according to some users)

3) Plugins that don’t work

4) Plugins that work with tweaks/changes

5) Plugins that may or may not work (conflicting info in threads, no comments since v1.x was released, etc)

I will only post lists 2-5.

I welcome your comments. If you have specific comments or tweaks, please post them in the that plugin’s thread (see links below).

Not working:

Move It

http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/48

Works with bugs:

bbVideo

http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/bbvideo/

Members Online

http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/members-online/

Not sure if it works:

BBcode Lite for bbPress

http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/bbcode-lite/

bb Topic Views

http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/bb-topic-views/

BBcode Buttons Toolbar

http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/bbcode-buttons/

Topics Per Page (a.k.a. Front Page Topics)

http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/front-page-topics/

New User Notification

http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/new-user-notification/

Post Count Plus

http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/post-count-plus

Unread Posts

http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/unread-posts/

Works with additional fixes in plugin thread:

Admin add user

http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/admin-add-user/

Approve User Registration

http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/approve-user-registration/

bbPress Attachments

http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/bb-attachments

Plugin Browser for bbPress:

http://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/plugin-browser-for-bbpress/

[angrywhiteboy]

Thanks so much for the response. I was glad I logged back in to look. I though the forum would email me when a response was posted. Oh, maybe I needed to add it to my favs

Thanks again.