[whitehats]

I have another (supposedly) silly question.

I have added fields I need to the topic post type, thank you very much. However, I am finding it difficult to post them to the database when I enter any data from the frontend. I can add all the inputs to those fields from WordPress editor, but on-page fields fail on me.

Can I just replicate bbp_form_topic_title() function and modify the new one to suit my needs?

No Core Code has been harmed as yet.

[tooltrainer]

I see from the bug closure, how one aspect of it is an orphaned post problem.

And I totally understand that there are possible situations where that could happen.

But I’m seeing that users can NEVER post topics, period, at all. Ever. How is it possible that bbP could be used by anyone if this was the case?

It’s not that they can post topics, and occasionally they get orphaned. Users are greeted with the “Sorry you can’t create topics” error at all times, in all forums, no matter what.

Sure I noticed a semi-workaround by using the admin bar, which resulted in the orphaned topics.

But that isn’t what the bug was originally about. The point was that users are plain & simply not permitted to create topics via the normal forum interface.

What’s even more confusing to me, is that this was working fine about 3 updates ago (updates for me, there have been numerous builds between then and now). I don’t know exactly when the problem started happening because I wasn’t testing for that specific functionality for a little while. All I know is that a week ago I could post topics without any issue, as a subscriber level user. And now I can’t.

This is a complete and total loss of usability of the bbP plugin, and I don’t see anyone else complaining of it so this problem must just be happening to me… and yet I can reproduce the bad behavior on multiple clean installs on multiple servers.

Forgive my frustration please, I haven’t gotten much sleep in the last couple weeks and problems like this that simply make no sense, are keeping me from making actual progress on the most critical component of my site – the forum. Right now, users can simply not use it at all, which will be very very bad for me.

So I’m appealing for some help, advice, pointers – anything! I just have no idea what to do, to get something as simple as user topic creation, working again. I love the bbP plugin and it’s the only forum solution I want to use, but obviously it’s gotta work!

Thanks,

Jonathan

[tooltrainer]

I see from the bug closure, how one aspect of it is an orphaned post problem.

And I totally understand that there are possible situations where that could happen.

But I’m seeing that users can NEVER post topics, period, at all. Ever. How is it possible that bbP could be used by anyone if this was the case?

It’s not that they can post topics, and occasionally they get orphaned. Users are greeted with the “Sorry you can’t create topics” error at all times, in all forums, no matter what.

Sure I noticed a semi-workaround by using the admin bar, which resulted in the orphaned topics.

But that isn’t what the bug was originally about. The point was that users are plain & simply not permitted to create topics via the normal forum interface.

What’s even more confusing to me, is that this was working fine about 3 updates ago (updates for me, there have been numerous builds between then and now). I don’t know exactly when the problem started happening because I wasn’t testing for that specific functionality for a little while. All I know is that a week ago I could post topics without any issue, as a subscriber level user. And now I can’t.

This is a complete and total loss of usability of the bbP plugin, and I don’t see anyone else complaining of it so this problem must just be happening to me… and yet I can reproduce the bad behavior on multiple clean installs on multiple servers.

Forgive my frustration please, I haven’t gotten much sleep in the last couple weeks and problems like this that simply make no sense, are keeping me from making actual progress on the most critical component of my site – the forum. Right now, users can simply not use it at all, which will be very very bad for me.

So I’m appealing for some help, advice, pointers – anything! I just have no idea what to do, to get something as simple as user topic creation, working again. I love the bbP plugin and it’s the only forum solution I want to use, but obviously it’s gotta work!

Thanks,

Jonathan

[John James Jacoby]

@Rick – No idea what you have going on there. Looks like /forum is loading your “General Discussion” forum, and then some stuff under it. Some kind of canonical redirect with a shortcode and a page slug maybe? It’s really hard to tell.

[tooltrainer]

Just to make sure, I just installed on another copy of WP on a totally different server… stock everything, no other plugins or themes, etc. 100% original WP and bbP code.

Same problem, users with role < admin cannot create topics, no matter what.

Here is the test install:

http://cloudsharehost.com/test/forums/

feel free to log in as user test, password test

I’m really at a loss here, my coder and I are totally dead in the water right now without a solution to this.

Jonathan

[tooltrainer]

Just to make sure, I just installed on another copy of WP on a totally different server… stock everything, no other plugins or themes, etc. 100% original WP and bbP code.

Same problem, users with role < admin cannot create topics, no matter what.

Here is the test install:

http://cloudsharehost.com/test/forums/

feel free to log in as user test, password test

I’m really at a loss here, my coder and I are totally dead in the water right now without a solution to this.

Jonathan

[tooltrainer]

This is an issue I’ve seen several times with my heavily customized production site, and I have assumed it was related to my custom work. I decided to start a fresh install and see about re-integrating with the current trunk, and “do it right” this time.

However, with a brand new bbP install, running the included 2010 theme, logged in users with the “subscriber” role, still can’t create topics at all. In fact nobody but admin can.

Does anyone know what is causing this? Users just get the

Sorry!

You cannot create new topics at this time.

error on any forum page.

Thanks!

Jonathan

[tooltrainer]

You & me both my friend, you & me both!

Now back to the fun stuff… letting my coder work really hard and solve all my problems for me! *snort*

But seriously, I’m optimistic now.

Actually on a somewhat related note… how would you generally recommend people work with the SVN repo for bbP? I checked it out the other day but I’ve only used SVN for my own projects where I’m intimately familiar with the code and I’m also doing checkins. I’ve never worked in a “read only” fashion, where the changes I make must NOT be checked in. Been having a hard time wrapping my head around a good way to stay current using the repo but not lose my changes. Any advice there?

Jonathan

[tooltrainer]

You & me both my friend, you & me both!

Now back to the fun stuff… letting my coder work really hard and solve all my problems for me! *snort*

But seriously, I’m optimistic now.

Actually on a somewhat related note… how would you generally recommend people work with the SVN repo for bbP? I checked it out the other day but I’ve only used SVN for my own projects where I’m intimately familiar with the code and I’m also doing checkins. I’ve never worked in a “read only” fashion, where the changes I make must NOT be checked in. Been having a hard time wrapping my head around a good way to stay current using the repo but not lose my changes. Any advice there?

Jonathan

[John James Jacoby]

Phew.

I really hoped I wouldn’t need to trouble shoot more complicated permalink issues.

[John James Jacoby]

Phew.

I really hoped I wouldn’t need to trouble shoot more complicated permalink issues.

[John James Jacoby]

Correct: alpha, beta, stable. Here at bbpress.org, we’re still running the stand-alone installation of bbPress. We are (kind of) following my own advice and not running pre-release software on a live environment. Instead, we’re running the latest trunk version of bbPress stand-alone which will eventually be 1.1.

It’s complicated.

All you need to know, is the plugin version sounds like it’s exactly what you want, and it is only a few days away from being a public alpha.

[John James Jacoby]

Correct: alpha, beta, stable. Here at bbpress.org, we’re still running the stand-alone installation of bbPress. We are (kind of) following my own advice and not running pre-release software on a live environment. Instead, we’re running the latest trunk version of bbPress stand-alone which will eventually be 1.1.

It’s complicated.

All you need to know, is the plugin version sounds like it’s exactly what you want, and it is only a few days away from being a public alpha.

[Anointed]

@JJJ

Yeah the code looks much more user friendly than before. I was actually meaning to ask how this is going to work with bp as that is my ultimate goal. Hoping we don’t have to wait till 1.4 or something… I have not been paying attention to any bp/bbpress news lately, so way behind the times.

I just found bbp_custom_template so needless to say I am in heaven. So long as I have an easy way of using my own template files for each custom bbpress area, life is good.

p.s.

Are there plans on adding in post taxonomies metadata for things like turning forum posts into ‘questions, answers, suggestions, etc’ like getsatisfaction does?

(If not then I’ll do it myself, just don’t want to recreate a wheel already built)

[John James Jacoby]

Cool. I’ll play with flushing the rewrite rules some more, and see if I can make this more automated. There’s a sweet spot that needs to be found with these, and I’ve managed to miss it so far.

[John James Jacoby]

The regular bbPress installation won’t do that without much, much work.

For example, here at bbPress.org, we have 1 unified theme, that both the blog and the forums use. It’s a completely custom theme, on top of a very complicated installation that integrates with shared user tables over at wordpress.org, several themes and plugin repositories, etc…

So, it can be as simple or as complicated as you need it to be, but the plugin version of bbPress will give you a huge head start.

[John James Jacoby]

The regular bbPress installation won’t do that without much, much work.

For example, here at bbPress.org, we have 1 unified theme, that both the blog and the forums use. It’s a completely custom theme, on top of a very complicated installation that integrates with shared user tables over at wordpress.org, several themes and plugin repositories, etc…

So, it can be as simple or as complicated as you need it to be, but the plugin version of bbPress will give you a huge head start.

[John James Jacoby]

@anointed – Excited to see what you come up with. I know you’re quite familiar with BuddyPress, so hopefully you’ll 1.) feel comfortable and see the similarities, and 2.) see how bbPress has improved on those similarities, and see what’s going back into BuddyPress.

[John James Jacoby]

You’ll want to use the bbPress plugin with some custom template files, and customize it to taste. Anything is possible.

[John James Jacoby]

You’ll want to use the bbPress plugin with some custom template files, and customize it to taste. Anything is possible.

[Anointed]

thank you kindly sir!

Have to say I am quite impressed with what I have seen so far. Not to deep into this yet, but so far so good. Already have bbpress into a fluid 1040 grid working properly including media queries.

Now it’s time to get a bit hardcore with the template changes…

[Ryan]

@tooltrainer – I take that back, once I change permalink to /%postname%/ it’s goofed up.

this is ok:

http://inadir.ryanserver.net/newdir/sample-page/

this link, from the widget, is a problem:

http://inadir.ryanserver.net/newdir/forums/forum/abc/

result of above link

Not Found



Apologies, but the page you requested could not be found. Perhaps searching will help.

[Anointed]

I’m one of those guys with a tricked out page.php file.

Is there a ‘global’ bbpress forum identifier that I can use?

I was thinking about doing something like this on my page.php

if page is a bbpress page then load file forum.php

else continue loading page.php

This would easily allow me to use a custom forum.php page for styling the forum pages, while still maintaining my ability to use a custom page.php file for everything else.

Anyone have a snippet that does this?

–or a better idea?

thanks

[John James Jacoby]

@tooltrainer – I’d ask if you have this much going on, that you probably create your own topic to post things in. To be honest, I can’t really keep up with everything you’re trying to do, so I don’t really know what to tell you.

I’d suggest just starting completely over from scratch, and comparing the two installs to see what’s different.

@Rick – Even if you get your old forums converted into the new plugin, BuddyPress still hasn’t been updated to integrate with the plugin version of bbPress, so your group forums either need to stay how they are, or you need to build what eventually will be in BuddyPress core.

[tooltrainer]

Hey at this point I’d actually TAKE that trade! Errors & notices I can deal with because they give me something to debug. But just “page not found” doesn’t give me anything to work with.

Tried reinstalling several times, de/reactivating, etc. Doesn’t matter, no matter what I do the forums just plain aren’t accessible… if they even exist at all. Bizarre.

JJJ, any ideas?

Thanks!

Jonathan