[swaymedia]

yeahs but BBPress is for coders to hack it together and make it suitable for a WP theme… that’s what its selling point is… its not just “another forum”… otherwise people would go for Vanilla or phpBB or other light forums.

The reason people come to BBPress is becuase of the intergration possibilities… and limiting the deep integration is the most Counter-Intuitive thing against its own selling point… utterly contradictory and frankly stupid… The majority will want deep intergration either now or later on… Regardless what type of user you are… there will be a point in that users time when he/she wants deep intergration.

[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

_ck_ – I’ve seen it on pretty much every site since I upgraded to FF 3

But yeah, good point. You could do this <?php echo getlastmod('style.css'); ?> (filemtime is cached which would kind of defeat the purpose)

[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

seriously guys, deep intergration is probably the most essential feature an “intergratable forum” has to have.

All this talk about…. well… Not everyone wants it.. is utter garbage.

Wow. Harsh. So my not wanting it means I’m garbage or my site is garbage? Nah, I know you don’t mean I’m crap, no worries, but really think about what you just said.

I agree that SOME people want deep/full integration. And some people don’t. Should full integration be offered? Yes, but only for people who are totally hard-core hackers. Because it’s so hard, because it’s so complicated, and because it’s something that, if done wrong, will seriously jack you up.

Shallow integration, of users and db, is what most people need. If you can theme WP, you can theme BB. If you can make a theme in WP, you can make it work in BB too with about an hour of work and make it seem seamless.

A pain? Yes. But IMO better than having to re-code everything.

And I too would rather sit on a cactus than use iframes.

[_ck_]

You don’t want to change that number on every page load, or the CSS file will never ever cache at all and slow down page load / render.

In theory the best number to append would be the timestamp of the CSS file itself, meaning if the CSS file was edited/saved, the number would change, hence force the cache to update. filemtime gives you the file date. The problem with using it is that on some systems it can be relatively slow and add overhead to the page load time.

Alternately you could use today’s date, or even the current hour, ie ?".date('G');

If you are seeing overly aggressive caching of certain files, it probably means the server has been setup that way and can be changed, at least on apache via htaccess

[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

Actually that’s an old trick from IE and it’s moronic ‘You have to delete everything to get IE 6 to dump css cache!’ days.

I update that v number every time I make a change to my code, which is a pill, but … yeah, that would do it.

I can’t believe that FF has devolved like that. BAD FF! No cookies!

FYI, for those who are lost, you’d do something like this:

<link rel="stylesheet" href="style.css?v=<?php echo mt_rand(); ?>" type="text/css" />

[chrishajer]

To answer your last two questions: you need to edit the header.php file in your template folder.

[_ck_]

bbPress doesn’t yet have the ease of use that WordPress has

but it can be customized in pretty much the same way.

The problem is bbPress is much younger than WordPress so there is virtually no documentation and it’s also evolving so any changes you make today may have to be updated somewhat in a few months.

The best bet is to study existing plugins and themes however if you are not a coder that may be problematic.

You got this far though, I dare say you probably have the required determination to get it done.

[adammann33]

Hi all,

First off, I’d like to say wow, this stuff is awesome! Thank you for the effort that has gone into it.

I’d also like to pat myself on the back for having done two successful install/integrations of bbp and wp by following the integration screencast. Both have worked very well — I did have to use the fix admin login plugin on one, but it has worked since. The trick for a non-coder like me is to have the screencast in a separate window and pause it at every step.

For the site in my profile, http://www.herbalremedyforum.com , I’m using the tarski theme on the wordpress side, and the matching geneologies theme on the bbpress side. The two look fantastic together!

So my question is this: what’s the most effective way for me to get the knowledge/skills I need to pimp out my bbpress site like I did with my wp site as a non-coder? I’m not lazy — it just seems like I’m missing some basic information like how to get link into the bp sidebar with a widget as in wp.

As a bottom line, is there a suite of plug ins that gives the an approximation of the intuitive interface of the WP admin area? Or do I (gulp) need to go back to school and get a computer science degree? Somewhere in between? It seems like given the hand holding from the screencast that there must be other handholding that I’m not finding for the other basic stuff.

So two of the basic hand holdy questions: how do I put a link from my forum back to my wp blog? And how do a put an image in the header of the forum to match that of the wp blog?

ps — I just posted this a few minutes ago, then realized I needed to edit a typo, so I hit the edit button and when I tried to save, it saved as a blank post?

[adammann33]

Hi all,

First off, I’d like to say wow, this stuff is awesome! Thank you for the effort that has gone into it.

I’d also like to pat myself on the back for having done two successful install/integrations of bbp and wp by following the integration screencast. Both have worked very well — I did have to use the fix admin login plugin on one, but it has worked since. The trick for a non-coder like me is to have the screencast in a separate window and pause it at every step.

For the site in my profile, http://www.herbalremedyforum.com , I’m using the tarski theme on the wordpress side, and the matching geneologies theme on the bbpress side. The two look fantastic together!

So my question is this: what’s the most effective way for me to get the knowledge/skills I need to pimp out my bbpress site like I did with my wp site as a non-coder? I’m not lazy — it just seems like I’m missing some basic information like how to get link into the bp sidebar with a widget as in wp.

As a bottom line, is there a suite of plug ins that gives the an approximation of the intuitive interface of the WP admin area? Or do I (gulp) need to go back to school and get a computer science degree? Somewhere in between? It seems like given the hand holding from the screencast that there must be other handholding that I’m not finding for the other basic stuff.

So two of the basic hand holdy questions: how do I put a link from my forum back to my wp blog? And how do a put an image in the header of the forum to match that of the wp blog?

[adeboy]

@swaymedia, ouch!

Ipstenu is right, it would be a world of pain with upgrades, they need to stay apart. The profile integration is great and if you work on it a user would never know where WP ends and BBPress starts. Check out http://www.columbusunderground.com/forums/, best example i’ve seen

[matiaspunx]

Ok, i will send you my edited file, use it under your own risk, it’s works like a charm but, nobody knows…

Examine the file and see the changes made by me

PD: PLEASE, back up your db first!

DOWNLOAD: http://www.mediafire.com/?nmmymgg0z0j

Hope this works for you!

Best regards!

[bruinfelix]

If one ‘opensource’ project has a lack of communications, then bbPress, may take a look at his self

[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

A quick view-source shows this li’l gem: ver=1.0-alpha-6 as well as <form class="login" method="post" action="https://healthexpert.talkpress.com/bb-login.php">

Looks familiar, no?

[chrishajer]

So, did you just paste the plain text password into the database field? That won’t work. You need to encrypt it first. Here is the encrypted version of the password password for a 0.9.0.4 installation:

$P$BYmd6QuCKHVKv5Hm0igW8A/bSHSbWt/

If you paste that into the user_pass field of the bb_users table, you should be able to log in with your username and a password of password. Then, change your password.

[_ck_]

Millions in funding does not a millionaire make. I think most of it is used to secure payroll at Automattic because full-time employees are expensive for a company.

The answer is not for me to help less, the answer is for others to be more patient or set realistic priorities/goals (or start contributing to the community themselves).

If someone wants a blog about bbPress, they should seriously make one themselves. You don’t have to be a coder to research bbPress’s history and request interviews with the dev team and Matt.

[_ck_]

Yes, you are asking too much, it’s free software, there’s not even a 1.0 final yet.

Michael was working on bbPress before Sam joined Automattic, he has been working on other Automattic projects for the past few months and recently started working on bbPress again.

Name the current developers of WordPress, I suspect most people can’t – the point is that it doesn’t matter to most people.

Note that I don’t have some special insight on bbPress activity – Michael and Sam don’t tell me secrets and hide them from everyone else. I just go and read stuff, all the notes in the code, I watch trac updates, I read the history in bbDev.

If you don’t know what I know about bbPress it just means you are lazier than me and don’t want to bother reading it all and just want it spoon-fed to you. In which case, you seriously need to find other software that has reach maturity, is well documented and the developers twitter every darn day what they do. There are DOZENS of forum programs. Many of them have been integrated with WordPress on some level. Find another solution.

Again, if you are planning your website, project, etc. around the day-to-day, week-to-week or even month-to-month improvements in bbPress development you are using the wrong program. bbPress is pre-release, it is not final, it is not gold. If you need a timetable, you are using the wrong program.

If you are using bbPress now you are an early-adopter. Early adopters have to be do-it-yourself-ers who figure things out for themselves and/or don’t have timetables.

I cannot stress this enough, if you cannot deal with how bbPress is manged, and didn’t like it last month or the month before, you may have noticed nothing has changed to meet your desires. Please, please, please find other software and stop posting to the forums with this. Stop making YOUR need for timetables everyone else’s priority. Stop acting like you are entitled to special attention and time above the other thousands of bbPress users. Uninstall bbPress and switch to something else.

[hnsweb]

I have uploaded the bbpress in my server. and i get the 1st welcome installation screen. After i press “lets get started” .i get the following error…

“Warning: html_entity_decode() expects parameter 2 to be long, string given in /home/hnsalumn/public_html/ryt/bbpress/bb-includes/wp-functions.php on line 113″

Please HELP ! ( i have already installed wordpress MU in the server.)

[richcon]

I think part of the reason people keep asking for a roadmap or a release date (which is annoying, I know) is because there is no up-to-date page on the bbPress site with that information. Open source projects especially survive on public support and communication.

So how about this: what if Sam or CK posted a quick two-minute update each month to the blog about progress that’s being made and what still remains to do? I don’t mean alpha announcements or set-in-stone deadlines — more of a this-is-what-we’re-working-on bit, or talking about what features you’d like to see in a 1.0 final. That might even motivate other coders to step up and help, and make everyone else feel like we’re included in it.

I bet the time it takes to do that will save you hours of headaches responding to nagging questions from your fans.

We don’t care if a feature slips or things get delayed, as long as communications are still there. We’re a forgiving bunch.

Open source projects thrive when they have a central figure communicating regularly with people and keeping everyone in the loop.

This is not a complaint. I know you guys are working very hard!

[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

Except it’s not what ‘everyone’ wants

People who want an integrated forum/blog may want that, but then it’s a whole new measure of pain when one half upgrades. And they’re getting there (with things like BuddyPress), but bbPress is a forum. That’s it. It happens to integrate with WP, but that’s not all it is.

[bruinfelix]

Integration into a existing wordpress theme, is just what evryone wants .. So, why the developers dont listen to the people who uses this software, beats me!

Its just on of the main raisons i dont install bbPress anymore, no at all integration with the theme stuff

[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

Looks okay… Did you dump all the cookies for your site from your browser? Which I realize is a standard debugging thing for this stuff but still should be said and not thought

[jwoelfel]

The Avatar Upload works fine on my site, but I cannot access any admin functions to change preferences. I have looked everywhere. I want to change the max dimensions for the pictures because my template doesn’t handle the default 150-pixel limit very well. I already tried changing the php file through its code and re-uploaded, but that did not do anything.

The plugin states that admin functions for avatar should be available. Suggestions, anyone?

[kahnoya]

Still does the same thing. I can log into both but they log each other out. Here’s my quick settings. Do they look right?

// WordPress cookie integration speedup

$bb->wp_siteurl = 'http://www.mysite.com';

$bb->wp_home = 'http://www.mysite.com';

$bb->cookiedomain = '.mysite.com';

$bb->cookiepath = '/';

$bb->authcookie = 'wordpress_3f597388c6109a55a322633x12345678';

$bb->secure_auth_cookie = 'wordpress_sec_3f597388c6109a55a322633x12345678';

$bb->logged_in_cookie = 'wordpress_logged_in_3f597388c6109a55a322633x12345678';

$bb->admin_cookie_path = '/forums/bb-admin';

$bb->core_plugins_cookie_path = '/forums/bb-plugins';

$bb->user_plugins_cookie_path = '/forums/my-plugins';

$bb->sitecookiepath = '/';

$bb->wp_admin_cookie_path = '/wp-admin';

$bb->wp_plugins_cookie_path = '/wp-content/plugins';

[zenseeker]

That one line of code worked for me. I’ve been at this since Jan. Luv ya, man!

[Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)]

Double check your AUTH/Secure etc keys in each config file to make sure they’re exactly the same.

In fact, copy the ones from WP into BB and manually add in the ‘BB_’ in the name.

Also, in wp-config you should have

// Cookies

define('COOKIE_DOMAIN', '.mysite.com');

define('COOKIEPATH', '/' );

But in bb-config it’s part of the WP cookie speed up so:

$bb->cookiedomain = '.mysite.com';

$bb->cookiepath = '/';