[MaryJane]

This is a very good idea! I would like this. I dont really like wp’s dashboard profile page. This would make wp and bbpress more intergrated!

[gtim]

kallekn, I posted it at: blogg.gurka.se/2007/03/04/svensk-bbpress-oversattning/

[fel64]

Interesting. Can you comment out line 262? Actions and filters are a nice system but a nightmare to debug. Invisible gotos.

I would really, really like to be able to tinker more with a setup that has problems. Can you give me the full details of what you’re running? What OS, what thing to run PHP, what version of PHP and the like?

[riddle]

More specifically: does bbPress have mechanisms for automatic table creation and updating like the ones described in the WordPress docs?

See: https://codex.wordpress.org/Creating_Tables_with_Plugins

Should I start my Foo plugin by creating a function foo_install()? And can that function call dbDelta()? (I don’t see dbDelta in my bbPress anywhere.) If not, what’s the recommended alternative model for creating tables to be used in plugins?

[_ck_]

Here we go!

http://ckon.wordpress.com/2007/07/31/new-plugin-bbpress-signatures/

updated to v0.11 – now with admin menu!

http://ckon.wordpress.com/files/2007/07/bb-signatures.txt

(rename .txt to .php)

If you have plugins for smilies and/or allow images in post text, it will obey them, this is probably a good thing and desired.

You can set the minimum user level needed to show signatures and also the ability not to repeat a user’s signature more than once per page.

Instructions: install, activate, tinker with settings in admin menu

If you would like the optional toggle on new/edit posts to disable signatures you must edit the edit-form.php & post-form.php templates and place at or near the bottom:

<? bb_signatures_checkbox(); ?>

(you can wrap it in a DIV and float it to the left, right style anyway you’d like

sorry but there’s no way to do this directly through a plugin)

Here’s a fancier version that I use:

<div style=”float:left” ><? if (function_exists(‘bb_signatures_checkbox’)) {bb_signatures_checkbox();} ?></div>

Version History:

0.05 :slashes & autop fixed, replaced input with textarea, max_lines now supported in post-processing, max_length checked in realtime (as well as post processing)

0.06 :internal testing/bugfix

0.07 :per-post signature toggle

0.08 :toggle for allow html and allow images should now work

0.10 :basic functioning admin menu

0.11 :more intelligent admin menu

[riddle]

I’m working on my first bbPress plugin. Between the limited bbPress documentation and the more extensive WordPress docs (and some unofficial WP tutorials) I can figure out most of what I need to know, but there are still some gaps.

Does anyone have a favorite simple, well-written plugin for a newbie to use as a model?

Preferably one that manages its own table(s) in the database?

Thanks.

[fel64]

Crowspeaker, would you mind editing a core file? If you can edit line 257 of bb-includes/capabilities.php to this:

$this->cap_key = 'foo_capabilities';

Then save/publish a post as you always do and see if the entry foo_capabilities is created?

That would bizarrely mean that the BB_User has an ID but no capabilities.

[_ck_]

Oh this is driving me crazy.

Every so often, the private forum settings reset back to open to all and expose the moderator forum to everyone. Not good.

Until this bug is found I need to know how to hardwire a forum by number via code to always be moderator’s only.

update: I hardwired private_forums_custom_get_options, adding

if (!bb_current_user_can("moderate")) {$private_forums_for_user[8] = "MODERATOR";}

This should make sure no matter what, #8 stays private

Hopefully you can find the bug soon… it might even be a bbpress core bug which is scary… then again, your settings are the only ones that seem to reset?

[crowspeaker]

fel,

I posted this on the plugin in page as well:

The upgrade did not fix my problem. Trying to post with default forum left blank failed to create a post in BBpress. Posting with a default forum would post only to that forum (no override on the writing page). User_meta with the key capabilities still being created.

Sorry.

[_ck_]

I’m now getting a median response time of about 0.125 seconds for 8 queries on the top page and 0.205 seconds for 12 queries on a topic page.

That’s like night and day compared to what you had before. It was taking almost a full second in some cases, look at the bottom source of the static.html !!!

Now can you believe most shared hosting environments have mysql cache turned off by default!!! Even your VPS neighbours may have it turned off which is causing high disk load that’s affecting you. This is where all those who claim how VPS is superiour are wrong. Disk access is the achilles heel of VPS (and shared hosting).

Next performance improvement you can do is install eaccelerator. Though it’s nowhere near as easy as editing mysql and restarting services.

Do you know how much guaranteed ram you have on your vps? Because the mysql and eacellerator cache will eat into that. If you have less that 128mb it will limit the sheer number of simultaneous connections you can have. Though for your needs I don’t think it’s a big deal unless all the search engines start scanning you at once.

ps. don’t worry any more about mysql tuning and phpmyadmin status reports, it’s really all you can do for now – the rest is a limit of how wordpress/bbpress works and can’t be avoided

pps. most of your pages are now coming up in 1.5 seconds for me when they were taking up to 6 seconds before – there are still some weird delays sometimes though which must be OS loads

[riddle]

P.S. I wrote a quick and dirty perl script to do a bunch of page retrievals, grep for bbPress’s self-reporting string in the footer, and report median times. Let me know if anybody wants it.

[Andrew]

What function do I call to output a permalink to a specific post in a thread? As threads get very long I would like to link to an individual post in the thread. I can’t seem to find this function anywhere. WordPress comments have such a function, does bbpress have it per post?

[_ck_]

Don’t re-invent the wheel. WP-Chunk

or Sam Ingle’s Link Truncator for WordPress can be hacked to support bbpress in under 5 minutes. There are probably others too.

[beaver6813]

Ahhh that auto worked a treat I’ve used the break-word as well for IE so it doesn’t even need to scroll when words are too long, in FF it just scrolls. Although a plugin to shorten long url’s words etc might be quite cool, like:

http://www.ilovebbpress.com/bla/blab/blalblba/indexnop/123

to

http://www.ilovebbpress.com/bla…/123

If I get time next week I might make one… but don’t quote me on that

Thanks guys for the help!

[so1o]

Here is my latest redesign of my site.. the site has wordpress and bbpress completely integrated..

there is no bbpress frontpage it shares the wordpress frontpage. the plugins are shared by both bbpress and wordpress.

I have integrated the search also.. try the ajax live search. type and wait.

Here is the link – http://www.adityanaik.com

I will be releasing the last theme ‘sunnyside’ in a few days

let me hear your thoughts.

[citizenkeith]

Ok, I finally got around to some testing. I have disabled almost all plugins and recounted… still the same behavior. However, I was unable to disable “Online List” and “BBPress Private Messaging” because it broke the admin console. So there’s a chance that one of those plugins might be causing this strange behavior.

[MaryJane]

I cant get this theme downloaded. All thats in the download link is a text file and its not wrote in english so i dont know what it says.

[riddle]

Thanks, CK. I’m a trusting soul, so here you go (on the same server and database):

http://riddle.whsites.net/bbpress/phpinfo.php

http://riddle.whsites.net/bbpress/static.html

http://riddle.whsites.net/cgi-bin/perlinfo.cgi

If I’ve just opened a big security hole, I hope someone will tell me!

I’m paying about $12 a month so this shouldn’t be absolute bottom-of-the-barrel service.

As for the shell: yes, I’m an old Unix guy, I built the site in SSH and vi. There’s no top, w or uptime in my path. If there’s a Red Hat-specific bin directory where I should look, I’ll do so.

[riddle]

I settled on Patrick Hunlock’s wonderful client-side javascript to pull a Yahoo Pipes JSON feed into the page. It doesn’t cache anything on the server, which of course is good for the server but causes a noticeable delay for the user. C’est la vie.

You can see it in action at (please don’t link to this site yet):

http:// muellerfever dot com /news.php

[_ck_]

For anyone running 0.8.2.x I bundled this as a proper plugin with some of my other “views” tricks:

bbPress plugin: My Views

optional: install bb-topic-views for the other extra views

[_ck_]

Sigh, I guess I’ll tempt fate and install the latest trunk. Though I know it’s going to instantly break half a dozen plugins or more, so I need to do that when I have a full night to dedicate to it.

I really like “views” and keep thinking of more helpful ones I can create that drill down through the data.

You should enquire about the development priorities and directions on the bbPress dev list though, you may get more joy there.

I find it somewhat hilarious that a *forum* development team uses a mailing list for group communications. The year 2000 called – it wants it’s static email posts back!

[_ck_]

Since there’s no real way to cache bbpress as static pages like wordpress (and not that there ever really can be, defeats the purpose) if you plan to have anything bigger than a “micro-forum” it’s important your host has mysql caching and optionally but recommend, some kind of php opcode cache (ie. eaccelerator)

Otherwise you’ll be getting emails from your host about your account creating all of the mysql load, etc.

The problem is I think most hosts do not have the two features I mentioned enabled. At least most shared hosting that’s done on cpanel “out of the box” on defaults. They have to be a bit more tech-savvy. And then if they are that clever, sometimes they will “oversell” the box thinking it can do more work than average.

Last but not least, on all shared hosting and VPS, you can have great performance for the moments you test it, but then a “bad neighbour” comes along and your performance will become quite bad for no reasons of your own, until the host does something about it, which can be days. Sometimes even the host can make poor decisions that will cripple your site, like backing it up during times of higher activity or allowing the statistics programs to run on dozens of clients at the exactly same time.

I wish I could afford dedicated hosting myself! Solves most of these problems. But spending $100 per year instead of $100 a month is no contest.

ps. 2.490 – 8 queries is not good at all if you are expecting high traffic – I have mysql cache and opcode cache and get always get under 0.300 for 10-30 queries no matter how many visitors. But I suspect I pay much more for my hosting. My guess is there’s definitely no mysql cache on there or you are paying very very little for that hosting.

[chrishajer]

lazyweb responds:

http://www.google.com/search?q=insert+rss+into+html

Will any of those approaches work for you?

[fel64]

Use the port of a pretty cool wp server diagnostics plugin. https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/front-page-takes-50-mysql-queries?replies=15#post-9140

Just add define( 'SAVEQUERIES', true ); to your config.php and activate this. Then go to View > Page Source and scroll to the bottom to see the diagnostics. (You can ignore all the stuff about queries. Just check out query time, page time, page render time. This tells you about the server bottlenecks.)

I just checked the numbers on my server, and I had 3.399 once and about twenty minutes later I had 0.436. This sort of thing can vary a lot, especially on shared hosting.

[riddle]

I’m in the process of setting up a bbPress installation (my first) at a new hosting provider (also my first time with them).

Subjectively, things seem a bit slow. Is there a tool for testing response time on a generic PHP hosting provider? Maybe a PHP app for very gentle stress testing?

Failing that, what sort of response time should be considered normal in bbPress’s self report in the comments at the bottom of the page? My top page currently says, “2.490 – 8 queries.” (That’s with a nearly-empty database.)

If there are serious problems with this host, I’d like to figure it out now, before I get settled in and launch.

Thanks.