[_ck_]

Slightly on topic, Matt is in INC magazine this month:

http://www.inc.com/magazine/20090601/the-way-i-work-matt-mullenweg.html

[buddha-trance]

_ck_, I was fully aware when I upgraded, which I did first on a test install. I am glad I did. Everything works beautifully and it was worth it. All the plugins I am using are working fine. There is only this minor glitch and I thought it was clear enough that I understood you are not supporting the plugins with the new version, and that the question was not addressed to you, not to bother you. I said it’s understandable that you are not, and in no way I was expecting that you drop everything, nor I was thinking that I knew any better.

I am very grateful for the plugins you have written and that I am still using on 1.0. There is nothing wrong with asking if other testers (starting from the alpha) are also using the anonymous feature and if the display name was working for them. It’s a support forum, after all!

[Sam Bauers]

The meta bug was pure stupidity on my part. It only caused visible problems in the profile page somehow, but there you go.

Both that and the “get user by email” issue were enough to force a new release.

[_ck_]

A reminder to those using 0.9 not to upgrade to 1.0 yet as many of my plugins (and others) do not support 1.0. I will not be addressing plugin upgrades until December.

1.0.1 changes:

https://trac.bbpress.org/changeset?old_path=tags%2F1.0&old=2294&new_path=tags%2F1.0.1&new=2309

to download changed files only:

https://trac.bbpress.org/changeset?format=zip&new=2309&old=2294&new_path=tags%2F1.0.1&old_path=tags%2F1.0

The meta issue seems the most serious to me.

[Sam Bauers]

A number of issues have come up since 1.0 was released, mostly minor, but one that was found today justified a minor point release for security reasons.

bbPress 1.0.1 released

All bbPress 1.0 users should upgrade to 1.0.1

[_ck_]

1.0.1 posted 20 minutes ago.

https://trac.bbpress.org/changeset?old_path=tags%2F1.0&old=2294&new_path=tags%2F1.0.1&new=2309

to download changed files only: https://trac.bbpress.org/changeset?format=zip&new=2309&old=2294&new_path=tags%2F1.0.1&old_path=tags%2F1.0

[_ck_]

Read Only Forums has not been tested or fixed to work on bbPress 1.0 which is why you are probably having problems. If any of my plugins work on 1.0 it’s mostly luck at this point.

As far as hosting, I wrote this little bit last year:

http://ckon.wordpress.com/2008/12/18/some-tech-tips-to-find-a-better-wordpress-or-bbpress-host/

[_ck_]

Try deactivating bbPress Moderation Suite for a minute, I want to see if it reduces the load at all. You can see the queries count yourself if you do a “view source” in your browser and scroll to the very bottom where it says:

This page generated in 0.53 seconds, using 34 queries.

[foodadelphia]

these are the plugins i have activated:

Akismet

bbPress Moderation Suite

bbPress Polls

bbSocialize (since deactivated)

Check For Updates

Google Analitycs

Human Test for bbPress

Instant Password

New User Notification Email

PollDaddy for bbPress

Read-Only Forums

[protobuilt]

Turns out you need to properly name your bbpress directory identical to the desires url path…

ie: if you http://example.com/forums you have to upload the bbpress press directory to /ftp/path/root/forums/

This needs to be better explained.

[protobuilt]

Hi,

I installed bbpress, had to do it twice since the first time failed. The second time is installed without errors, however, if I go to the link it emailed me http://domain.com/forums/ I get a 404 error. Do I need to edit a .htaccess file or something? I’m using permalinks if that makes a difference.

[_ck_]

Windows has a “large font” mode under the advanced display settings which turns everything into 120dpi instead of 96dpi, it makes some fonts larger. I would guess that at least 25% of the people out there use it because at high resolution the fonts are too small on most monitors.

Something is wrong though with the number of queries used on your pages, I am worried a plugin is malfunctioning under 1.0 – can you tell me what plugins you are using? Queries are how bbPress gets data from the database. Each kind of info needs a query, a user, a forum, a topic, etc. A clean install of 1.0 with some forums/topics uses probably 15-20 queries for the front page, yours is using 35 which seems excessive.

[foodadelphia]

yikes, i don’t even know what query count means, but yes i’m on a shared host from whom i’m looking to leave (they don’t provide any ssh or RoR support). I’d appreciate an explanation of query counts, _ck_, thanks, man.

as far as the fonts go, i installed ie 6 and 8 on my girlfriend’s pc running vista, i made .posts show up as 1.2em because i kinda like when the content itself grabs attention, and it didn’t look to bad (also increased line height to 1.3em), but it’s hard for me to test xp and ie. i know that macs see 72px and win sees 96px but i didn’t realize it changed it that much. should i just inherit the 1em, which is 62.5% in kakumei?

not sure where the “remember me” thing is. i’m going for the “large text, where the content is the focal point” kind of community, ala phorum (which i considered before deciding on bbpress) but if there are problems with any users i definitely want to fix em. mac w/firefox is a small market share, i know, but those are the on-the-fly-fixes.

anyway, i appreciate any and all input.

thanks again, _ck_, you lead a community of great developers.

[johnhiler]

Someone reported a similar issue with Godaddy – try this?

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/cannot-select-db-error-and-godaddycom

[John James Jacoby]

This is great info. Awesome work.

[infected]

I recommend continuing to use the plugin. There are only a few cases where integration might work without it.

Then i´m the luckiest guy on planet For me it seems to work fine without the plugin. I created some test users and i had no problems to access both frontends/backends logged in at the same time. Tested on different machines. But if you recommend it, i will install it just to prevent later problems that may be appear.

Thanks for your help so far! But what about the two folders mentioned above?

[QuickD]

I decided to test out this new version of bbpress on another website I have on Godaddy. I couldn’t link from BBPress to the Msql wordpress database and followed the steps to link to the database. Godaddy tested out and said that nothing wrong with the database.

BBpress asking for

Database Name (so tried with both Name and host name)

Database User (so put in godaddy msql User Name for wordpress database)

Database Password (Put in password to link to that database)

Did not work and gave following message : There was a problem connecting to the database you specified.

Please check the settings, then try again.

Godaddy said that the settings are fine.

Any suggestions.

[QuickD]

Reputation plugin is not adding and subtracting points as indicated by users. Also we wanted to change so that a post did not mean 1 reputation point but only when you gave or took away reputation points.

[Sam Bauers]

@vulvodynia

I thought those files would be automatically created. I’m chasing this up with our i18n person.

@chrishajer

Nice to know it was smooth for you!

[johnhiler]

Ah sorry Chris – I should’ve been more specific! Yah exactly what JD mentioned… the first four are doubles of the second four Topics Started.

On my profile, the first two Topics Started are doubles:

https://bbpress.org/forums/profile/johnhiler

Your profile page seems all right, as far as I can tell:

https://bbpress.org/forums/profile/chrishajer

But _ck_ has her first two topics repeated twice:

https://bbpress.org/forums/profile/_ck_

[JD Hartley]

Look: (from sam bauer’s profile page)

1. Support for 0.9 – how long? – Started: 3 days ago | Most recent reply: 10 minutes ago

2. bbPress 1.0 released – Started: 4 days ago | Most recent reply: 42 minutes ago

3. bbPress Integration plugin for WPMU – Started: 1 month ago | Most recent reply: 4 days ago

4. Just one more… release candidate 1.0-RC-3 – Started: 2 weeks ago | Most recent reply: 6 days ago

is the same as:

5. Support for 0.9 – how long? – Started: 3 days ago | Most recent reply: 10 minutes ago

6. bbPress 1.0 released – Started: 4 days ago | Most recent reply: 42 minutes ago

7. bbPress Integration plugin for WPMU – Started: 1 month ago | Most recent reply: 4 days ago

8. Just one more… release candidate 1.0-RC-3 – Started: 2 weeks ago | Most recent reply: 6 days ago

[toosalty]

Hi smi1ey,

Could you elaborate on how you resolved the problem? I’m facing the same problem that you have but I don’t really understand your solution.

Thanks!

[Sam Bauers]

I recommend continuing to use the plugin. There are only a few cases where integration might work without it.

[_ck_]

If I missed such a large site in the top 100 be sure to let me know.

Sometimes it’s hard for me to find certain sites given how much bbPress is being customized.

(I had written a whole thing here but I accidentally closed the tab and restoring it never brought the text back unfortunately.)

You should never adopt a program based on one person, especially if that person doesn’t do it for a living and even more important since that person doesn’t work for the company that made the program in the first place

To be clear I am not abandoning bbPress, at least not until I find something better and I am not actually looking for something else right now and what I have seen over the past year has not impressed me much. Besides, there are other talents around here and they are slowing releasing more and more impressive plugins or porting them from WP. A couple years from now people won’t even remember me.

My biggest problem with 1.0 is how bbPress was on a course with 0.9 to correct many of the legacy mistakes that WordPress had made, and suddenly with a whim by Matt, bbPress has turned around 180 degrees and steered itself neck deep back into the muck and mire via BackPress. It’s now burdened with many more layers and required compatibility and it will never be any more lightweight than it is now, which is not so fantastic anymore.

Another big problem growing with 1.0 is how instead of taking any feature that is outside of the API functionality and making it external as a plugin, it is being poured directly into the core, setting itself up for more legacy failure, like WordPress. Sam wrote some really great plugins as an independent but now as a core developer he can just slide it right into the core. It’s far easier to modified the core to get new features done fast but it should be resisted at all costs. You’ll notice that WordPress doesn’t have any official plugins outside of akismet and “hello dolly”, it’s a very clear but invisible company policy – “we don’t make plugins, put it into the core”. bbPress is now headed down the same path and it’s not necessary.

Things like:

gravatars

voices

topic page icons

should not be in the core. Instead any necessary action and filter hooks needed to accomplish such features should be carefully created and then the features should be made as plugins that can be enabled or disabled as desired. bbPress already comes with a “factory” plugin directory, it should be put to good use.

bbPress 0.9’s greatest strength was as a lightweight framework.

1.0 is not just a framework anymore, it’s starting to tell you how it should look and feel, and that is bad, because there are dozens of other forum programs out there that will do just that.

[chrishajer]

John, what are you seeing doubled on the profile page? I didn’t see anything but I didn’t look too hard.

Yes, bbpress.org is using 1.0