[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

I am deep integrating bbPress with WordPress 3.0 and I am encountering this white screen of death. I have done several integrations this way and never got stuck.

I use this code above database constants in bb-config.php

if ( !defined('ABSPATH') & !defined('XMLRPC_REQUEST')) {

define('WP_USE_THEMES', false);

include_once(dirname(__FILE__) . '/../wp-load.php' );

header("HTTP/1.1 200 OK");

header("Status: 200 All rosy");

}

I checked the logs and there are no 500 errors, all are 200.

I loaded the WordPress in a separate php file which works fine, so I guess something is conflicting in between WordPress and bbPress.

bbPress has no plugins installed but WordPress does have some and its a live site.

I am going to check for any conflicting plugins.

Any pointers?

[WimTibackx]

Blaming matt/automattic or blaming eachother isn’t going to take us and this project anywhere, people!

Let’s stop bitching at eachother and get this thing moving.

To summarize :

-Matt will be making bbpress into a wordpress plugin, afaics in this quarter, as WordPress skipps a release cycle to focus on the website and other projects

-People are talking about forking bbpress 0.9 as an independant lightweight forum. Is this going to happen and who is going to do this.

-I’ll start a wordpress/backpress/bbpress fork probably at the end of next week, searching for extra devpower.

That’s the situation how it is, and there is little chance that it is going to change. Time to stop looking at the past and to start looking at the future.

[WimTibackx]

However, the fork in the topic on wptavern was a fork as just a wordpress plugin. My intend is to fork both WordPress and bbpress and rewrite them to get something like this structure (although with different names) :

-Backpress a-like thing, which is basicly a “core” thing with support for custom post types and such and with NO own post types

-Wordpress a-like thing, which would be an official/canonical/core blog Backpress plugin

-BBPress a-like thing, which would be an official/canonical/core forum Backpress plugin.

I also want to take the chance to raise the spec to php 5 and handle things more object-oriented.

I will start on this project probably at the end of next week, if you’d like to participate, develop, help of any other sort you can mail me at info at wimtibackx dot be . I’ll take the following days to work out a roadmap and such.

Any help or feedback is appreciated!

[Gautam Gupta]

For the custom post type fork, check here – http://www.wptavern.com/forum/bbpress/1437-bbpress-off.html#post13939

I think he had done it again after his computer crash (not sure, but saw it somewhere).

[NikonRumors]

ok, I think I got it – I added it to footer.php before the [/body] tag

[NikonRumors]

Has anyone tried to install VigLink (http://www.viglink.com) affiliate program in bbpress?

Where should I insert the script? The instructions are:

This code should be inserted at the very end of your pages, just before the [/body] tag.

The code needs to be present on every page where you’d like VigLink to work. The best way to install this code everywhere is to add it to your site’s template.

Thanks!

[zaerl]

A fork? I will help.

[wtfmatt]

@_ck_, okay. I’ll fork if you fork. Seriously. You have the power to get 50 of us following after you, and I know at least 2 big coders who would probably follow. I’m a nobody, please remember.

@mr_pelle, EXACTLY.

@zaerl, sounds like you support a FORK too?

SCREW TRAC. SCREW IRC LOGS.

And screw trying to heal bbpress’ relationship with Matt, it will never happen guys. WAKE UP. The man-child has too much pride to apologize and fix this mess. He will let it die on purpose, or suddenly delete this whole site and turn bbpress into a plugin of WP and remove all access to the old bbpress code and repositories if we let this crap continue.

We need to mirror this entire domain’s code and plugins onto another server before its too late.

Even if we wanted to harass Matt into giving us answers, he still wouldn’t do it. Seriously if bbpress is going to survive as a forum software, we need to FORK IT NOW.

[WimTibackx]

I think that with the new 3.0 Custom Post Type functionality, a lot could be done to simplify the current WordPress as blog vs. WordPress as CMS vs. Buddypress vs. bbPress clutter. It seems to me that there is no good way of combining them all at this very moment. In wordpress you can’t change nor delete the default post types. If you want bbPress you need to link it up and such. I think it would be better if the current project group evolved into (but who am I in the community ^^):

*BackPress, which contains the whole base (a lot of things it doesn’t contain atm from WordPress)

*Wordpress, which could just be no more then a plugin to BackPress (on the download page you should have the option to either download the plugin or backpress+plugin)

*bbPress, (see wordpress)

*BuddyPress, (see wordpress)

This way, wordpress can evolve in a stable, clear and usefull cms. This way, development teams could be handled much more flexible (a team for backpress, and teams for the other projects only having to worry about the plugin).

This would make it more clear for users and certain wanted features could be implemented much quicker. There should be, however, the functionality of having “plugins on plugins”, thus, plugins on wordpress, …

Also, this way of working would permit developers to use the backpress/wordpress codebase without having the mess of the current post types. It would also ease combining these projects a lot.

Last but not least, it would give the teams the oppertunity to clean up codebases (raise spec to php 5, more object oriented way of handling things, …)

What do you guys think about it?

As a final note, I’d like to say the following to the developing teams : work with the community, not against.

Edit : And if there would be interested in starting such an initiative from the community, as automattic isn’t likely to do this, I’d be willing to help developing. If I’d had more time, I’d probably already started something like this, but I haven’t got the time to lead such a big thing.

[ckeck]

Long live bbPress — can’t the community just fork this project? I’d be more than happy to donate $ to this cause in lack of my development skills. I just want to see some MOVEMENT

[chrishajer]

Throw the “folder” below WordPress.

You should put it inside a FOLDER in the root of your WordPress site. The name of that folder determines the URL where the forum will be accessible on the Internet.

So, if your WordPress site is at http://www.example.com/ , and you create a folder called bbpress in your WordPress root (and put all the bbPress files in there) then your bbPress forum will be accessible at http://www.example.com/bbpress/

If you don’t want bbpress in your url, call the folder where you put the files something else. For example, here it’s called “forums”. You can use forum, discussion, community, etc. That will be part of the URL where you access the forum.

/var/www/html/wordpress/wp-content/

/var/www/html/wordpress/wp-admin/

/var/www/html/wordpress/bbpress/

That is where the folder will go; on the same level with wp-content and wp-admin. It is at the same level.

[jeremiahsjamison]

Thanks much Kev for helping me get started!

Quick ? : when you say, upload bbPress into it’s own folder below wordpress, is there a specific loc? I.e., should I throw this in wp-content, wp-admin, or just at the root level?

I think the docs say throw it on the root level, but I’m not sure that’s right.

[chrishajer]

Your best bet is to download it via subversion. Grab the trunk release revision r2434.

svn co -r2434 http://svn.automattic.com/bbpress/trunk ./forums

That will check out revision 2434 which is very stable, into a directory called forums on your server.

[WimTibackx]

Hello,

It’s been a while (some years) since I last had the intention of using bbPress and as far as I can see things have changed since then. However, the current downloads on this website don’t seem to be working so I thought I’d pop in here to ask if anyone has a download location (I could download it from svn, but I thought I’d ask here first, would be simpler). At the same time I’d like to ask which version I’d be best to use, as I heard 1.0 ain’t a good one.

Any tips?

Thanks,

Wim Tibackx

[Rootside]

He even admitted that right now, it would be better off to use another plugin rather than bbPress.

Nevermind if it’s insulting, it’s just wrong. I’ve looked closely at a few WP forum plugins, and they’re all spectacularly ugly, near-impossible to customise, or criminally bloated. Or all of these things.

That said, he does have a point when it comes to installation. I’ll happily jump through a few hoops to get something working, but I’m not sure I’d recommend bbPress unless I was sure the person knows what they’re doing.

All in all though, I went for bbPress precisely because it’s still better than all the other solutions. I realise I’m only speaking for myself and other people might miss functions they consider to be essential; and I wish them good luck trying to tame Simple:Press or wrestle phpBB into their site, but I consider bbPress to be a niche product because it provides a simple, basic, themable forum, and I just assume that that’s what people who use it were looking for.

I’m further assuming that the majority use bbPress in conjunction with a WordPress site, and in that context, I don’t understand why it shouldn’t be a plugin. I personally can’t wait for that to happen, because as bloated as WordPress might be, most people are using it anyway, so the question whether it’s good or bad to load WordPress in order to use bbPress doesn’t even arise for most people.

(edit) If we’re talking loading WP core stuff on every forum page, fine, I get that argument, but again, I doubt that bbPress is the right solution for a big, high traffic forum anyway.(/edit)

And the way I understand it, if someone wants to run just a forum, wouldn’t they probably be looking for something more powerful and feature-rich than bbPress in the first place?

A bbPress plugin would surely be a lot lighter than the current bbPress, no? How is that not a good thing? Am I totally off with my guess that most bbPress users are also running WordPress anyway?

Maybe it can go different ways indeed (renaming it would be a good idea in that case, obviously). That would preserve all the good work that has gone and is going into bbPress.

By the way:

Has anyone considered the possiblity that Matt is keeping his eyes peeled on the current efforts of some people trying to use nothing but WordPress’ core functions to build a simple forum? I’m guessing that any WP plugin which makes that kind of thing easy to set up and enhances its functionality would be really lightweight.

On a different note, I also don’t get how anyone could read a flame war into any of the discussions here. At all.

[johnhds]

Quite a few:

allow images 0.9

auto add favorites 1.0

avatar upload 0.8.3

bavatars 0.4.1

bbcode buttons toolbar 0.0.9

bbpress attachments 0.2.7

bbpress recent replies 0.1b

bbpress signatures 0.2.0

bb wysiwyg editor 1.2.0

custom rotating ads 0.1

google sitemaps 0.1

hot topic 0.0.1

human test for bbpress 0.9.2

image resizer 0.2

prvate forums 5.0

subscribe to topic 0.0.6

social it 1.5

terms of service 0.0.3

topic icons 0.0.5

user photo for bbpress 1.1

xili new post notification (xnpn) 0.9

Thanks

[kevinjohngallagher]

You know, sometimes I wish search actually worked, because that is a very awesome answer. Your coding knowledge of being able to bend bbpress has been sorely missed.

[kevinjohngallagher]

No apologies needed for being new mate, we all were once.

bbPress is a standalone piece of software and not a WordPress plugin.

Ideally at some stage in the last 3 years someone would have put theat sentance somewhere obvious on this website, or in the readme or something because you’re not the first to make this mistake, and you won’t be the last.

You basically want to upload bbPress into it’s own folder below wordpress. You can call this anything you want (forums, support, bbpress, chat etc).

Edit your config file in that folder, and load that folder in a browser (same way you install wordpress basically) and an installer appears.

Now, there is a guide on this website found here: https://bbpress.org/documentation/installation/

Personally, i think it’s a clear and detailed as mud so I strongly recommend the following guide:

http://wpbbpthemes.org/integration/

It’s very procedural, but given that it takes 19 steps to explain to you what the official documentation explains in 1 step (“6.Follow the instructions in the installer”), i think thats a really good thing.

Any questions, come back and drop us a line.

Kev

[Taeo]

You all have good points – some that I think I overlooked a bit. I guess I’m more of a “glass half full” kind of person. I’m at work right now but I’d like to take the time later today to respond to each of you.

[_ck_]

I have a post somewhere around here that shows how to do that.

I think this is it:

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/counting-forums

[jeremiahsjamison]

i’m trying to install BB & integrate into WP. am a noob, so apologies.

=can i upload the bbpress 1.0.2.zip directly as with other plugins? appears not, as after upload there’s nothing in plugins list to manage

=assuming i am to upload bbpress via ftp, how do i get the whole folder to upload? this may be a problem with my ftp client, which won’t let me throw a whole folder onto the web site, it wants individual flyers.

=when i upload bbpress to my web site, which folder or path do i put it to?

any other tutorials and step-by-steps that are detailed i would much appreciate.

[kevinjohngallagher]

I hope Matt just renames it to something else to prevent massive confusion.

In the way he didn’t do with bbPress for BuddyPress?

Why on earth it wasn’t called “BuddyPress forum plugin – based on bbPress” or an equivalent i’ll never know. All that does is make this community and this product look worse; as we fail to answer support questions over and over.

[kevinjohngallagher]

When I overwrite something, especially in bbPress, I ususally clear that was there before hand.

#front-page #hottags {

background: none;

border: none;

background-color: red;

border: 1px solid blue;

}

That way you don’t need to worry about things that are not implemented in all browsers. The more I work with charities and the more I test on different combinations of OS/Browsers and even mobile platforms, the more I code my CSS like it’s 2000 again. Amazing how it all still works and looks the same.

[zaerl]

He even admitted that right now, it would be better off to use another plugin rather than bbPress.

Insulting.

Closing this thread, it has long left productive uses and is annoying me so much I just want to quit the whole project.

No-one agree with me ergo I close the thread. Childish.

[_ck_]

The WordCamp minute about bbPress is old news. I preserved it here so you don’t have to wade through the rest of the WP 3.0 stuff:

http://bbshowcase.org/forums/topic/matt-on-bbpress-wordcamp-san-francisco-may-1st-2010

Please note the plugin version of bbPress for WordPress will almost certainly be completely incompatible with all existing bbPress themes and plugins and all advice/knowledge to date will become useless.

It will be essentially an entirely different program just using the same name and I hope Matt just renames it to something else to prevent massive confusion.