[chrishajer]

That has been like that for a while.

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/all-member-names-anonymous-on-front-page-bbpressorg#post-70653

[kevinjohngallagher]

Homepage is broken again.

Says everyone is Anonymous.

[chrishajer]

Rescued from Akismet. I don’t think it’s a spammer…

[chrishajer]

Rescued this post from Akismet

[mr_pelle]

In the script you linked, usernames and passwords are stored in clear in the php file: why do such a bad thing when bbPress has a database and encrypts passwords for you? Just login using its login form and that’s it.

[mr_pelle]

Hi Joe! I’m using this plugin by Zaerl and I’m pretty happy with it!

[Joe Gibson]

Greeings, all –

First off, I installed bbPress yesterday and I admit I’m impressed. A very well-thought-out piece of work. It dovetailed perfectly with WP without a hitch.

The one thing it obviously needs is a slightly better editor. Asking the readers to use actual code to italicize or bold a word is decidedly old-world.

I’ve just spent an hour on Google (and here) searching for relevant terms, such as ‘WYSIWYG’ and ‘TinyMCE’, and while there seems to be lots of chatter about the subject, I haven’t found anyone with a definitive “Do this, this and this” page that’ll replace the stock editor with something like TinyMCE Advanced or NICEdit.

Anyone know what the latest scoop is?

Thanks,
Joe

[mr_pelle]

Why not using .htaccess? It’s easy!

By “I want to protect my forums directory”, do you mean you want to turn all your forums private? If so, use this plugin.

[ColinBradbury]

I have managed to run the validator and sorted out some of the problems but its left others that part of the bbpress code.

Unfortunatly this hasn’t fixed my sites problem any other ides?

[zaerl]

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/tons-of-depreciated-errors#post-70000

[Xevo]

Hiya bbPress community,

Working on my forums right now and found a usability issue. I found out that you can delete posts and you have a restore button, but when you delete a post, you first have to go to the admin panel to restore it.

So my question is, is it possible to keep those posts viewable for admins/moderators only on the topic page itself?

Thanks,

Mitchell

[kevinjohngallagher]

I think what I might be confused about, is if bbPress as it is today is close to exactly what it should be, what would you want it to do 2 years from now that wouldn’t add more bloat or slow it down?

bbPress0.9 is as good as any forum software out there, save for 2 things. Moderation and the Admin section. It’s crazily fast, secure, and extentable. It’s let down by lack of actions/filters, default theme and documentation.

bbpress1.0 is 50% slower and breaks alot of plugins but has some more hooks and an Admin section. Moderation is still the big thing, as is the default theme.

A clear out (archiving) and rethink of the plugin section and the creation of a new theme would make it very very useable.

Additionally both have also been let down by the layout/use of this forum, which makes finding information difficult; and a plugin section that doesn’t work.

Basically, all the feature requests we recieve, all go over the same ground – and can be covered by plugins. Most are covered by plugins (in a 90%) sort of way. With everything in Limbo there is no need to take things to the n-th degree.

From an honest to goodness Project management point of view, bbPress can be where we need it to be within 9 month – a year. But that time grows as we add more features (that we already have as plugins grrr) and less bug fixes.

So yeah we could fork it as is. But given Matt’s current desire to berate us (both the people here and the software) in public at Wordcamps, and his latest more… evangelistic approach to publicly taking umbridge at anyone he doesn’t like or disagrees with him; he makes the envornment out there relatively difficult to consider moving into, while intentionally hampering our efforts here.

If today, it’s good; then let’s fix up what we have to put out a solid 1.1 stand-alone, and when shift gears to focus on 1.2 as the plugin milestone.

Dude, we’re trying.

I mean, i know you know that

But in order for that to happen, we need the head honcho or “he who wont talk to us, only about us in keynote speeches”. All Keymasters, all of those who package things up and can edit the website… AutoMattic. The same folks who’re scrapping us for you.

I hate this looking like an US vs. THEM scenario, it just polarises people, and looks childish. But in honesty, “we” didn’t put ourselves in this holding pattern.

Additionally, putting out a solid 1.1 standalone will be tough and time consuming. We’ve 13 months of bugs, we’ve 13 months of backPress changes and potential changes in 3 releases of WordPress to contend with; there is going to be alot of bugs found in testing – and with Jane telling people that bbPress in its current implementation isn’t going to even work the WordPress.org forums and Matt telling people not to use the software we’re are hemmoraging people.

[kevinjohngallagher]

You have to hand edit them.

Which is actually a very good thing. The new WP_nav_menu in wordpress for example requiers more SQL calls and processing power to display on every page than bbpress0.9 takes to load the entire forum/topics/posts/users etc.

[kevinjohngallagher]

Does a plugin (sponsored or otherwise) help new and updated versions of bbPress core get released to everyone that’s using it? No.

But then JJJ mate, nothing does.

We’ve not had a core release in over a year. It’s not like theres not been code added. Our only option was to add plugins to fix the functionality.

I’m not wanting to get too historical, but you’ve not been here in the trenches for a while bro. Your last non BuddyPress topic you opened was well over a year ago. Other than teh welcome back Matt stuff, you aint been here my friend. You’ve not been here during the “all your plugins won’t work – lets take stock after 1.0’s released” era where we entered limbo.

That limbo stayed when Sam left, so our bug fixes added to the core weren’t released.

That limbo was compounded when Matt came and announced no bug fix release.

Since then we’ve been adding to the core, and now Matts against us releasing (not that we can because we’re tied into BackPress which has only had 2 core updates in 5 months – instigated by us).

With respect, what you fail to realise here is that bbPress is very close to being ideal for alot of us. Not adding to the Core is not down to a lack of desire to add to it, but rather not able to jump through the gates of the gatekeeper – especailly as he refuses to talk to anyone about bbPress (unless insulting us publicly).

The major gripes that people have with bbPress have all been fixed. Yes 90% of them are currently in plugins, but they would be alot tighter and brought into line if 1) we weren’t in a holding pattern for over a year and 2) Automattic stopped fucking with the website so people could actually get at the plugins!!!

I’m not against you making an awesome forum plugin for WordPress (little p); I contributed a little to Justin Tadlock on his 2nd attempt (although at a high level) and I’ll be glad to help you on this project too. But make no mistake my friend – you’re views on bbPress have been tainted by the perception that Automattic has been (mud?) slinging for a while.

Now you may think i’m wrong on that, no worries.

Can i ask then, what advantages will this plugin have over the current bbPress, and what disadvantages?

I’m presuming that someone thought that out before making this decision

[Rich Pedley]

apart from when plugins are taken on board and integrated into the core.

I for one would hope that the ability to skip akismet is built into akismet for bbPress at some point in the future – retrieved from akismet is quite common here, and on the WordPress forums – enough to warrant it being added to the core. I know that is a plugin – but it is a slightly different case.

I may not be able to help to much with the coding, but testing wise, and perhaps even accessibility wise I would be able to help.

Would now be a good time to start a new section on here for discussion related to this new version?

[grenka]

Installed bbpress, but when i run it get the error http://yfrog.com/11errorcij

[xarzu]

What is with the Menus in BBPress? Are they a feature of my theme? Do I have to hand-edit them in a php file?

I have managed to put a link from my wordpress blog to my bbpress forum. Now, how do I put a link back?

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/Athono/WordPress/arguemax2.jpg

[John James Jacoby]

I am a bit confused. Are you suggesting that plugin developers aren’t contributing to bbPress?

Core. bbPress Core is what comes in the zip when you download it. A plugin in its own zip file isn’t the same as writing patches that help create bbPress.

Is a plugin a contribution to bbPress in general? Of course! So are themes, moderators, evangelists, anyone that’s involved in a positive way is contributing.

Is the work and the opportunity to use your plugin appreciated? Yes. Does a plugin (sponsored or otherwise) help new and updated versions of bbPress core get released to everyone that’s using it? No.

[johnhiler]

I am a bit confused. Are you suggesting that plugin developers aren’t contributing to bbPress?

[John James Jacoby]

I have funded the development of dozens of bbPress plugins, almost all of which are available on the plugins tab as open source. They are just not released under my name, as I didn’t do the programming.

I have gone out of my way not to bash on bbPress on the forums, and to be supportive of the platform. I have 19 pages of posts on the bbPress forums, mostly answering questions from users.

I don’t think I deserve the comments you directed at me. That said, I wish you all the best with your new project.

Plugins are great, but they haven’t helped lead bbPress or contribute to the core project. Everyone appreciates any plugin that shows up in any repo, sponsored or not, yours or not.

I say this in the nicest way possible, but you shouldn’t have to go out of your way to be a genuinely nice person. Any and all contributions are always 100% awesome, so nothing I say ever is meant to mean anything other than that. The topic here is bbPress core, which means what comes in the bbpress.zip.

I’m sorry if you feel anything I said to you was off-putting. Just trying to put out this fire and answer questions with what I know to be true.

there is no way a bbPress plugin is going to be robust enough in 2010 for the public

Probably very true, and I wish I had the chance to start this topic; it sort of got started without us. We’re still going to work really hard to get something out there. Compatibility is the number 1 priority before this should even be considered to use with existing data.

Thanks for sticking to the 0.9 branch _ck_. I’ll be keeping equal eyes on the bbPress trac and BuddyPress trac, so if something crops up in 0.9 that needs committing or requires a security release, we can make that happen.

The trac is open to everyone to snoop through all of the code, and I welcome the criticism of the plugin branch 100%. I want it to be the go-to discussion forum software for every WordPress powered site, and I know that a team of people can’t do that by themselves, nor should they have to.

[jomontvm]

How can I get the corresponding Arabic version of bbpress 1.0.2?

And can I install both English and Arabic versions of bbpress under a single installation of wordpress mu with the database shared?

Anyone please advice..

[_ck_]

JJJ: Nothing is being dropped, or abandoned, or tossed aside anytime soon.

Good to hear. Probably should have started this topic with that as the first sentence as it would have prevented a lot of misunderstanding by many folks.

Based on my experience and knowledge of bbPress internals, even with two developers working on it, there is no way a bbPress plugin is going to be robust enough in 2010 for the public, unless compatibility is going to be completely thrown out the window and it’s “bbPress” in name only (hence again my point, do not call it bbPress).

But I’d like to hear the following as FACT from Matt instead of just casual opinion (as good of an opinion as it is):

JJJ: … if a bug fix or security issues pops up with 1.0/1.1 branches, the responsible thing to do is to fix it and push out updates.

For the record I’ll state that I intend to keep 0.9 going as long as reasonably possible. Before that last sentence appears elsewhere on the net let me qualify it by saying that doesn’t mean I am going to run a public fork of it. But in theory people should be able to count on it for years. Features would be added as plugins, not in the core.

[johnhiler]

I have funded the development of dozens of bbPress plugins, almost all of which are available on the plugins tab as open source. They are just not released under my name, as I didn’t do the programming.

I have gone out of my way not to bash on bbPress on the forums, and to be supportive of the platform. I have 19 pages of posts on the bbPress forums, mostly answering questions from users.

I don’t think I deserve the comments you directed at me. That said, I wish you all the best with your new project.

[John James Jacoby]

It’s hardly dismissive. Sorry you feel that way, but it’s meant to say that those of you that are upset, are also choosing not to hear what we’re saying anymore; you’re just mad and there’s not much I, or Matt, or anyone can do about that.

Over the past year, we’ve seen people request more features, people request less features, people want new leadership, people want to know the direction of the project, etc… The fact is that you can start developing the core right away by submitting patches in the trac. If you’re not doing that, then you’re not investing in the future of the platform, you’re investing in your own ventures which I’m happy to help with, but can’t be responsible for.

Sorry you feel it’s been badly handled, but to be quite fair, it’s partly because we’ve been directly answering everyone’s questions in this topic, and partly because this won’t happen for several months anyhow. This is big news to deliver, that’s why it hasn’t been delivered yet.

John, you can continue to spend as much money as you’d like on the future of bbPress, doing those exact same things the exact same way. If you’re satisfied with what you’ve invested in today, you will continue to be tomorrow. Nothing changes other than bbPress has a team of developers that are communicating to everyone now.

I’ve answered the ‘same name’ question a few times already, as have a few others. I mean nothing but the utmost respect when I say this, but there is nothing preventing anyone that’s upset here from developing bbPress core themselves and keeping up a stable branch if they see fit. It’s very much a meritocracy, so if you keep developing, you’ll keep climbing the ladder.

There’s also nothing wrong with forking it the same way WordPress did with b2 in the beginning. We’d rather have you on board, but if you just can’t and won’t be involved in the future bbPress plugin, then all I can do is keep repeating myself.

[chrishajer]

With layout issues like that, it’s nearly always a div issue (div size, float, unclosed, extra, something.) So, you should validate first:

http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http://www.supporttheanimals.co.uk/bbpress/topic.php?id=3

Can’t validate because of an invalid character on line 8. I tried to view the source of the page to see what the character might be, but when I right click on the page, I get this:

http://www.chrishajer.com/bbpress/copyright.png