[Peter Westwood]

Westi didn’t comment on it in my email to him, though he did say that he didn’t know that bbPress was dependant on BackPress – and he’s the BackPress lead!! really lovely guy, but it hardly bodes well.

That isn’t a fair representation of what I said in reply to the email which was:

I was unaware that BackPress was blocking bbPress release this is the first I have heard of it.

Which is perfectly true – no one had tried to contact me directly about it before you.

I was and still am surprised that a point release of bbPress would be running with a floating external as trunk of BackPress is never guaranteed to be perfect code.

I would actually expect it to be run against the last revision that bbPress was release / against a branch with specific fixes as required.

If anyone want to be sure to get my attention for a BackPress issue then the extremely quite BackPress-dev mailing list is the best way – I read every email to that list promptly – https://lists.wordpress.org/mailman/listinfo/backpress-dev

[Anonymous User]

Hi John JJ,

thanks for your long statements here. For me – it’s great to hear about the future von bbPress. And even greater – bbPress has a team now!

Yeahhh…

[John James Jacoby]

All this has been said, and answered before. I just downloaded 2 plugins from the repo, and they worked fine enough. I am also of the opinion that this iteration of bbPress.org is the best looking and working one so far.

In Matt’s defense, I haven’t seen anything that Matt said qualify as berating, and the people he disagrees with, are people already on a verbal or moral offensive. Having been able to see through both sides of that looking glass, I can tell you with first hand experience that Matt is almost always on his A game, even if you don’t understand it at the time. But, this isn’t something I really want to get into because it just isn’t classy to do.

I get that everyone wants to hear from Matt and/or Jane. It sounds to me like you really want an apology more than you want anything else, because you’ve answered your own questions about how gaps in development have been filled in.

At the end of the day it’s free, open source software. Polarized or not, bbPress has a team now. If this can just be summed up as a years worth of pent up frustration coming out, I can understand that, but we’ve all been going at this for almost 3 days now, and I’d rather write code and fix stuff and make progress than rehash bbPress’s tumultuous existence.

P.S. – BuddyPress uses bbPress internally, so I’ve lurked for the past year+ and paid attention to the goings on. I just didn’t have the time or energy to have these discussions then. Now, I do, but there’s not much more I can say; it comes down to what we do about it. Like it or not, this is the hand we’ve been dealt… Time to make the best of it.

[Milan Dinić]

There are some improvements that are made to this feature that will solve some opinions expressed here. Read my detailed post for more information.

[Milan Dinić]

chrishajer just committed patches that improve subscription feature. Now we have a lot of new features:

• option to disable/enable subscription in Options>Discussion
• function for changing subscription status for user on topic (which means it could be used in plugins/themes
• function for retrieving subscription status of user for topic
• checkbox below post form for change of subscription status
• links for subscription are now added to topicmeta action so on most if not all themes it will be shown without need for theme edit
• a lot of filters/actions so you can remove features, change text etc
• everything is well documented

What this means is that now users don’t need to receive emails for every post since there are hooks in function that sends emails. Developers could make new features like sending digest email, one notification until user visits topic, page with list of subscribed topics for user. option to auto subscribe user to particular forum/tag (useful for plugin developers etc) and other.

What you can also expect is that today or tomorrow you’ll again have option to subscribe to topics on this forum.

Thanks to Gautam for a lot of improvements to my patch(es) and to Chris who committed final one.

[Milan Dinić]

If anyone reads this, link to download page from blog is broken.

[Gautam Gupta]

The disorder of posts on profile page is related to #1301

[mr_pelle]

It’s probably related to this: https://trac.bbpress.org/ticket/1310

[chrishajer]

That has been like that for a while.

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/all-member-names-anonymous-on-front-page-bbpressorg#post-70653

[kevinjohngallagher]

Homepage is broken again.

Says everyone is Anonymous.

[chrishajer]

Rescued from Akismet. I don’t think it’s a spammer…

[chrishajer]

Rescued this post from Akismet

[mr_pelle]

In the script you linked, usernames and passwords are stored in clear in the php file: why do such a bad thing when bbPress has a database and encrypts passwords for you? Just login using its login form and that’s it.

[mr_pelle]

Hi Joe! I’m using this plugin by Zaerl and I’m pretty happy with it!

[Joe Gibson]

Greeings, all –

First off, I installed bbPress yesterday and I admit I’m impressed. A very well-thought-out piece of work. It dovetailed perfectly with WP without a hitch.

The one thing it obviously needs is a slightly better editor. Asking the readers to use actual code to italicize or bold a word is decidedly old-world.

I’ve just spent an hour on Google (and here) searching for relevant terms, such as ‘WYSIWYG’ and ‘TinyMCE’, and while there seems to be lots of chatter about the subject, I haven’t found anyone with a definitive “Do this, this and this” page that’ll replace the stock editor with something like TinyMCE Advanced or NICEdit.

Anyone know what the latest scoop is?

Thanks,
Joe

[mr_pelle]

Why not using .htaccess? It’s easy!

By “I want to protect my forums directory”, do you mean you want to turn all your forums private? If so, use this plugin.

[ColinBradbury]

I have managed to run the validator and sorted out some of the problems but its left others that part of the bbpress code.

Unfortunatly this hasn’t fixed my sites problem any other ides?

[zaerl]

https://bbpress.org/forums/topic/tons-of-depreciated-errors#post-70000

[Xevo]

Hiya bbPress community,

Working on my forums right now and found a usability issue. I found out that you can delete posts and you have a restore button, but when you delete a post, you first have to go to the admin panel to restore it.

So my question is, is it possible to keep those posts viewable for admins/moderators only on the topic page itself?

Thanks,

Mitchell

[kevinjohngallagher]

I think what I might be confused about, is if bbPress as it is today is close to exactly what it should be, what would you want it to do 2 years from now that wouldn’t add more bloat or slow it down?

bbPress0.9 is as good as any forum software out there, save for 2 things. Moderation and the Admin section. It’s crazily fast, secure, and extentable. It’s let down by lack of actions/filters, default theme and documentation.

bbpress1.0 is 50% slower and breaks alot of plugins but has some more hooks and an Admin section. Moderation is still the big thing, as is the default theme.

A clear out (archiving) and rethink of the plugin section and the creation of a new theme would make it very very useable.

Additionally both have also been let down by the layout/use of this forum, which makes finding information difficult; and a plugin section that doesn’t work.

Basically, all the feature requests we recieve, all go over the same ground – and can be covered by plugins. Most are covered by plugins (in a 90%) sort of way. With everything in Limbo there is no need to take things to the n-th degree.

From an honest to goodness Project management point of view, bbPress can be where we need it to be within 9 month – a year. But that time grows as we add more features (that we already have as plugins grrr) and less bug fixes.

So yeah we could fork it as is. But given Matt’s current desire to berate us (both the people here and the software) in public at Wordcamps, and his latest more… evangelistic approach to publicly taking umbridge at anyone he doesn’t like or disagrees with him; he makes the envornment out there relatively difficult to consider moving into, while intentionally hampering our efforts here.

If today, it’s good; then let’s fix up what we have to put out a solid 1.1 stand-alone, and when shift gears to focus on 1.2 as the plugin milestone.

Dude, we’re trying.

I mean, i know you know that

But in order for that to happen, we need the head honcho or “he who wont talk to us, only about us in keynote speeches”. All Keymasters, all of those who package things up and can edit the website… AutoMattic. The same folks who’re scrapping us for you.

I hate this looking like an US vs. THEM scenario, it just polarises people, and looks childish. But in honesty, “we” didn’t put ourselves in this holding pattern.

Additionally, putting out a solid 1.1 standalone will be tough and time consuming. We’ve 13 months of bugs, we’ve 13 months of backPress changes and potential changes in 3 releases of WordPress to contend with; there is going to be alot of bugs found in testing – and with Jane telling people that bbPress in its current implementation isn’t going to even work the WordPress.org forums and Matt telling people not to use the software we’re are hemmoraging people.

[kevinjohngallagher]

You have to hand edit them.

Which is actually a very good thing. The new WP_nav_menu in wordpress for example requiers more SQL calls and processing power to display on every page than bbpress0.9 takes to load the entire forum/topics/posts/users etc.

[kevinjohngallagher]

Does a plugin (sponsored or otherwise) help new and updated versions of bbPress core get released to everyone that’s using it? No.

But then JJJ mate, nothing does.

We’ve not had a core release in over a year. It’s not like theres not been code added. Our only option was to add plugins to fix the functionality.

I’m not wanting to get too historical, but you’ve not been here in the trenches for a while bro. Your last non BuddyPress topic you opened was well over a year ago. Other than teh welcome back Matt stuff, you aint been here my friend. You’ve not been here during the “all your plugins won’t work – lets take stock after 1.0’s released” era where we entered limbo.

That limbo stayed when Sam left, so our bug fixes added to the core weren’t released.

That limbo was compounded when Matt came and announced no bug fix release.

Since then we’ve been adding to the core, and now Matts against us releasing (not that we can because we’re tied into BackPress which has only had 2 core updates in 5 months – instigated by us).

With respect, what you fail to realise here is that bbPress is very close to being ideal for alot of us. Not adding to the Core is not down to a lack of desire to add to it, but rather not able to jump through the gates of the gatekeeper – especailly as he refuses to talk to anyone about bbPress (unless insulting us publicly).

The major gripes that people have with bbPress have all been fixed. Yes 90% of them are currently in plugins, but they would be alot tighter and brought into line if 1) we weren’t in a holding pattern for over a year and 2) Automattic stopped fucking with the website so people could actually get at the plugins!!!

I’m not against you making an awesome forum plugin for WordPress (little p); I contributed a little to Justin Tadlock on his 2nd attempt (although at a high level) and I’ll be glad to help you on this project too. But make no mistake my friend – you’re views on bbPress have been tainted by the perception that Automattic has been (mud?) slinging for a while.

Now you may think i’m wrong on that, no worries.

Can i ask then, what advantages will this plugin have over the current bbPress, and what disadvantages?

I’m presuming that someone thought that out before making this decision

[Rich Pedley]

apart from when plugins are taken on board and integrated into the core.

I for one would hope that the ability to skip akismet is built into akismet for bbPress at some point in the future – retrieved from akismet is quite common here, and on the WordPress forums – enough to warrant it being added to the core. I know that is a plugin – but it is a slightly different case.

I may not be able to help to much with the coding, but testing wise, and perhaps even accessibility wise I would be able to help.

Would now be a good time to start a new section on here for discussion related to this new version?

[grenka]

Installed bbpress, but when i run it get the error http://yfrog.com/11errorcij

[xarzu]

What is with the Menus in BBPress? Are they a feature of my theme? Do I have to hand-edit them in a php file?

I have managed to put a link from my wordpress blog to my bbpress forum. Now, how do I put a link back?

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/Athono/WordPress/arguemax2.jpg