[Matt Mullenweg]

johnhiler, the assumptions are indeed an active core. In the WordPress world, people who were active in the plugin arena also become active in core. In bbPress, they haven’t. Maybe that will change now.

[Matt Mullenweg]

wtfmatt*, please don’t force me to more permanently ban you. Either make a real account with real information, or go away.

[zaerl]

Assuming that you are using the Kakumei theme open /bb-templates/kakumei/topic.php. The plugin instructions: https://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/live-comment-preview/installation/ suggest a good place for inserting that snippet of code. Right after <?php post_form(); ?> (line 45 in Kakumei topic.php template file.)

Remember: Never touch core files.

[Joe Gibson]

Z –

Thanks for the replies.

“So I don’t see a reason why it should not function with my plugin.”

And, if I’d actually activated the dang thing, nor would I. Sorry about that. The activation process somehow slipped by me. Works terrifically in both browsers.

“zaerl URL preview”

No thanks to that, but I know people are going to start bitching about not having a ‘Preview’ button.

The only hitch (so far) with “Live Comment Preview” is that I can’t understand his instructions. Maybe you could set me straight:

__________________________________________________________

<?php add_live_comment_preview(“View Preview”); ?>

to your topic.php file, where you want to show the preview’s area.

ie. before the post form something like that

<?php if ( topic_is_open( $bb_post->topic_id ) ) : ?>

<?php add_live_comment_preview(“View Preview”); ?>

<?php post_form(); ?>

<?php else : ?>

__________________________________________________________

1. First off, assuming he’s referring to the bbPress file, it’s “topics.php”. And it’s a fairly long file. Would you have a suggestion on where the first line of code should be stuck?

2. And are the last 4 lines supposed to be part of it? His breaking up a block of code with commentary was somewhat unorthodox.

Much thanks,

Joe

[kevinjohngallagher]

why not no need of “www”? reason?

We’ve known that using “www” during installs has caused issues in the past. Especially if you used “www” for one isntall and not the other.

Cookies are/were (been a long time since i looked into this) using the full URL so “www.bbpress.org”‘s cookie would be different from “bbpress.org”‘s cookie if you didn’t specify.

99/100 it makes no difference. 1/100 it does

.

.

You are right that there was no need for the salts when bbPress1.0 was released, but we’ve had 3 WP releases since then. I find its better to be safe than sorry.

So I’m confuse why we need two separate authentications for both wp and bbP.

In theory: You do not.

In Practice: It doesn’t hurt at all.

Request:

Can you please create two demo files for wp-config.php and bb-config.php with authentication keys, and make live them to pastebin.com & paste links here?

Sure, i’ll do that tonight when I get home.

Am off to see Toy Story3 in 10 mins.

[_KB_]

kevinjohngallagher two more things?

why not no need of “www”? reason?

will exact formate be

https://bbpress.org/?

or

bbpress.org (even no need of http:// ?)

Second I was thinking there was no need of authentication keys from https://api.wordpress.org/secret-key/1.1/bbpress/salt/ because we copy keys/hashes from wp-config into bb-config, So I’m confuse why we need two separate authentications for both wp and bbP.

Request:

Can you please create two demo files for wp-config.php and bb-config.php with authentication keys, and make live them to pastebin.com & paste links here?

I’ll be very thankful,

Cheers

[kevinjohngallagher]

Yes, there’s a plugin but It works only with older release bbPress

As do most plugins.

It’s just where we are I’m afraid

[XU3E]

1) Yes

2) There’s a plugin for this for just over 2 years.

1) Why is it hard to made?

2) Yes, there’s a plugin but It works only with older release bbPress. _ck_ doesnt support new releases because his own branch.

[kevinjohngallagher]

Well I can see some things I’d change. Will they make a difference? i don’t know, probably not, but again, they’re what I use.

(I wish the search function here was half decent so I could find the post I went into this in detail in…)

1) Get your authentication Keys from https://api.wordpress.org/secret-key/1.1/bbpress/salt/

2) Copy your WordPress authentications into your bbPrefig file

define('AUTH_KEY',         '5G#If&OQrV:MfrjuU2;NKhfw|Z:|iU>@hw^LLTxv|~8KPC9S;-+r#J&|T=DS%#X8');

define('SECURE_AUTH_KEY',  'u.p|C]A*s*@M%VGr4;_Cc-*d|I:QjTT&p6kcTL:^X+tzUT)7k-S]h)q^c|||$uy;');

define('LOGGED_IN_KEY',    'xA+j,OZKD_*, 6|Jb7C6rS*3(oT4{-Y)R.E/|!xNtb8,GYzp,X-?i[HtTRE|81h=');

define('NONCE_KEY',        '4h035-4lx6-W.>dtZzRtA=XA+&G5v)llX[B>4--:>hX0h:Ey$afw|&[r_1zHQnZ^');

define('AUTH_SALT',        '+/poE0c>eRr#l54-r@:S.4HD^s3Zr%w-S;s++d,[ku5#Aj{N6g6T;.P>/UB8bIUn');

define('SECURE_AUTH_SALT', 'ck.^(0_T5tON$lTy>dkPZ#]1wZ~yKBkE0m>60H_FRG r6yXd#E|dhJAVvPDu5Kf.');

define('LOGGED_IN_SALT',   'Fz^)*aj<U[RxO3A][1K=pXX6a-4-<R7=[fe$1[hT5d!e-_onpNrk^t|j%!~a+;KP');

define('NONCE_SALT',       'TEdXdR+g]&YY9/YtZX^[,e{_U+^fSGcgt JqKB<[sh:3Jg<7RG~f_.xLX(9e5FXV');



define('BB_AUTH_KEY',         'f@X, B|4rcQ?sv#[]q+x;r =KO{r}i<|h%0=?>!/f|0A#[qzh9pNWdnZR8XadkFH');

define('BB_SECURE_AUTH_KEY',  'X0*%@*wpp(A[/(4RD(TWAnW7N[:gYBZ:@r}-z;w),|fptIbt5 Ro}8Tr?}-c-y+m');

define('BB_LOGGED_IN_KEY',    'cbal+zxea.]|C!ZsWQ6}cKy+?!eSs?@(t)qCz=H*4CDrZlXoC+-X#[h5Hl37LU~/');

define('BB_NONCE_KEY',        '4{ZC+__k{]MPr[I{~q$Muta#XghduMPBRQvNZqFIm-~-4-DaH|vH$6W~)wD!^92X');

define('BB_AUTH_SALT',        '?v&+?5?vnXoIPuc&%OQMNN#QP_Xf&ZA0J:FO;tY:JdEjT5xt^k$,-q!XvVS,E)$1');

define('BB_SECURE_AUTH_SALT', 'n(M15M~Y<qg(A!x8ov,7]:+HZ>q0ajV3!feD){dLPhn2upN?;fIRE.@~14xH?v!8');

define('BB_LOGGED_IN_SALT',   '{Lu=[hq;BCEu j>n[Ejv%]w-k y?$@*sK@VcB<7E)wR/mrUIGj%9@*Q>.v]P|~#x');

define('BB_NONCE_SALT',       '*9Dv~}=@+k<g-w$WIsEXdxULL0yz0D{]!9@HY/e$7Ru|^dv?QF$gy!}dcLIC>@5P');

3. With no disrespect to that screencast, it is 19 months old, and we’ve had a whole new version of bbPress since then. For integration I always use http://wpbbpthemes.org/integration/ as a starting guide.

4. Check you’re not using “www” anywhere in the URLS you specify in the database, or that you installed any of the bbPress/WordPress systems while using “www”.

[_KB_]

@kevinjohngallagher thanks dear, I’ve done it already, its a part of integration, But I really surprised why its won’t work for me??

but I’m curious that may be _ck_ tell me new thing.

OK, I’m going to disclose my config files and cookies, check it dear buddies….

for wordpress,

http://pastebin.com/embed_iframe.php?i=hPpMiDyZ

for zptest students

http://pastebin.com/embed_iframe.php?i=jcS2377M

If you need more things, I’ll share it..I really want to fix it….Thanks

[kevinjohngallagher]

In your bb-config.php file put this code:

define( 'COOKIE_DOMAIN', '.your-domain-name.com' );

define( 'SITECOOKIEPATH', '/' );

define( 'COOKIEPATH', '/' );

If you’re using WordPress, make sure you put the same in the wp-config.php too.

Now, I know this isn’t supported or well-liked or even neccessary these days (was it ever), but I still put this legacy code into my bb-config

$bb->wp_siteurl = 'http://www.my-wordpress-url.com';

$bb->wp_home = 'http://www.my-wordpress-url.com';

$bb->wp_table_prefix = 'wp_';

$bb->user_bbdb_name = 'my-database-name';

$bb->user_bbdb_user = 'my-database-username';

$bb->user_bbdb_password = 'my-password';

$bb->user_bbdb_host = 'localhost';

$bb->custom_user_table = '';

$bb->custom_user_meta_table = '';

$bb->authcookie = 'wordpress_';

$bb->cookiedomain = '';

$bb->cookiepath = '/';

$bb->sitecookiepath = '';

$bb->wp_table_prefix = 'wp_';

Does it make any difference? I doubt it. But with all the integration stuff over the years, I’ve become a big fan of covering the bases.

[_KB_]

I’m using WordPress 3.0 and bbPress 1.0.2.

Set all cookie paths to the root /

Can you please explain little bit more about it?

[_KB_]

Thanks _ck_ besides my cookies related question (now I’ll ask about it in my other thread), also I’ve asked a question about the transformation the data from standolone to plugin.

No-6: If I install multiple bbpress instances (right now), then after (in future ) bbpress-Plugin’s announcement will I able to switch from standalone to bbPress-Plugin with same plugins, database, users, content, without losing anything???

P.S I think matt is no more on bbpress, or not interested in my question.

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

@_ck_ awesome plugin you have there

I guess all your plugins are tagged https://bbpress.org/plugins/tags/_ck_

right?

And I believe even your updated plugins support 0.9 ?

[Ashish Kumar (Ashfame)]

yes _ck_ is right

integrate as many installs as you want. be it on sub-domains or sub-directories

[zaerl]

zaerl Editor just add a <a> tag which is the standard way of doing things (nothing more). It seems that bb-open_in_new_window just scan the DOM searching for a elements and append a _blank. So I don’t see a reason why it should not function with my plugin.

Checkbox for e-mail subscription

Here we have the trunk version of bbPress (1.1 or 1.0.3, we don’t know how to name it and this is a great problem, really) which introduce anonymous posting and subscribe to topics.

If you want a plugin that transform links the way you want I can send you the version 0.2 of my plugin “zaerl URL preview” which I have not uploaded to bbpress.org for several reasons (here there is only 0.1).

za AT zaerl.com

[_ck_]

You don’t even need a plugin for this.

You just need to fix your cookie settings and it will work instantly.

Set all cookie paths to the root /

and make sure they are all using the same key/hash which is likely the problem.

You didn’t say which version of bbPress you are using, it appears to be 1.0.2

I don’t think I’ve ever bothered to figure out all the new variable names under 1.x which is why you can’t find them around here.

[_ck_]

Yes, there are already sites using it that way.

In fact if they are all using the same domain “example.com” then you don’t even need an extra plugin to do it.

Set all the cookie paths to the domain root. /

Point all the user tables to the same db.

Setup the same cookie keys/hash and done.

This wasn’t really a question for Matt unless in general people want to know how a bbpress plugin would handle multiple installs. As far as I could guess, you’d have to install multiple copies of WP.

[fbutera101]

I’m sorry if this has been discussed. I’ve tried a bunch of different searches to no avail. Installing bbPress with MU is easy enough, but is it possible to somehow install bbPress in such a way, via a plugin or something, that would allow anybody with a blog on the multiuser site to have a bbpress forum? It can be done with a forum plugin like simplepress, but I really like bbpress and would rather do it that way if possible.

Thanks.

[Joe Gibson]

Greets –

After having a great time tinkering with bbPress and deciding upon a theme, I’ve turned my attention to plugins.

Here are some I’ve tried and gotten nowhere with. If anyone has an alternative to suggest (or how to get these working), it would be appreciated.

“Open_in_new_window” (opens link in new window) – no work-o with Zaerl Editor (IE or FF)

“Post Notification”, Subscribe To Topics” – both dead

“Live Comment Preview” – couldn’t understand the instructions

“Checkbox for e-mail subscription” (the one used here) – doesn’t appear to be available as a plugin

Thanks,

Joe

[zaerl]

It’s a known issue of deep integrating bbPress 1.0.2 with WordPress 3.0. One of mine plugins solve this:

https://bbpress.org/plugins/topic/zaerl-wordpress-3-integration/

[Erlend]

So I’m wondering, how will the bbPress plugin deal with front-end editing? It’s certainly not uncommon that you need to go back and edit your post, and when you do that you’d rather not be sucked into the WP admin panel just for a quick edit. However, from the little I’ve experienced and read about plugins taking advantage of custom post types in WordPress, front-end editing is no simple task.

Example one: BuddyPress Wiki Component

http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/bp-wiki/

In order to achieve front-end editing of wiki pages (custom post type), it bundles its own TinyMCE script. This also allows it to extend TinyMCE with wiki-specific features.

Example two: Justin Tadlock’s Custom Post Type based Forum

http://justintadlock.com/archives/2010/07/16/a-wordpress-forum-plugin-using-custom-post-types

At the time being, front-end editing is not possible with his forum, and according to his roadmap the forum will use existing inline-edit plugins available (I believe Scribu’s editor was mentioned somewhere).

—

I wouldn’t imagine the official bbPress plugin would resort to yet another plugin for such a basic functionality, so what’s the plan? What I’d love to see is rich front-end editing based on the native WP editor, meaning if I have plugins that extend the native editor, they also extend the front-end editor (provided its within the scope of the editor-extending plugin and the admin enables it).

Best case scenario, this involves modifying the WordPress core so that plugins like the two mentioned above will also have an easier time tapping into native WordPress for front-end edits.

[Erlend]

I’ll just say this: All I’m seeing is many bbPress standalone users passionate about keeping bbpress.org as the home for the standalone software that they’ve come to rely on, while the only people steadfastly arguing bbpress.org should be the home of the new WordPress Forum plugin, are the core developers. While the rest of us, those who are eagerly planning to make the switch from standalone (or BuddyPress) script to plugin when the time arrives, couldn’t care less what it’s called, as long as it’s official, sleek and solid.

In other words:

“Keep the bbpress.org domain for the software it is today! Make a new one for the plugin!”

In favor: Several

Opposed: Few

Don’t care: Thousands

So there are some benefits about sticking to bbpress.org thrown about, but what have you got to lose by picking a new name? What happened to making everyone happy when you’ve got the chance?

I reckon we’re all pro innovation, right? As far as I’m concerned, I’m only typing up this rant in an attempt to foster innovation, and that’s it. Either which way this turns out I’ll still have the plugin I’ve always dreamed of. I just want it to become the best it can be.

We could probably keep the existing bbP directory running in a different directory to give people time to transition.

Not everyone’s going to ever make that transition, you know that.

In the wake of just a couple days of posting, I think it’s pretty evident that a bbPress fork, or 0.9 continuation more like it, is a pretty likely forecast. Now where could a front runner or two organically emerge to lead such a new initiative? bbPress.org. Where would such an initiative pick up the most momentum? bbPress.org. I couldn’t think of a significant third, but if I did? bbPress.org.

Does a bbPress plugin need any of this? No. A single mention on WordPress.org/.com (include the rest of the WordPress/Automattic ecosystem for good measure) and this plugin will have more buzz than any domain by itself could ever achieve anyway.

And I don’t believe a standalone bbPress fork would damage WordPress. If anything, it would only challenge its limits. bbPress will be shoulder to shoulder with the likes of Vanilla, while WordPress + Forum will be just that; +reason why you should pick WordPress to build your website. Don’t fool yourself into thinking that someone who wants just a forum will pick a plugin powered by a blog. If you want eggs you get eggs, not a full English breakfast with eggs on top.

“This just in: WordPress foundation gives bbpress.org back to the community that’s been keeping it alive” That’s what I wanna see. Openness for the friggin’ history books.

[slee]

Hi all, id like to set up a wordpress website that lets a user signup which then gives them their own blog and also gives them access to the forum – is this possible?

then as an extra but not essential – is it possible to do the above but use facebook connect to gain access to the above?

hope that makes sense

[Joe Gibson]

Z – I got on a bbPress plugins page and found your ‘Open in new window’ plugin but the rascal doesn’t seem to work. Tried it in both ‘bb-plugins’ and ‘my-plugins’. It activates just fine. Is there a trick I’m missing?

Thanks,

Joe